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Google earth journey to the ancient places

 

 Discovered 16 -17th September 06, around 12 midnight in the
7th part of Enoch's 10 week timeline judgment prophecy followed at a previous early time of the timeline.
Sevens

 

Is this prophecy in the making? Has a marker been identified ?

The Breach of Dilmun.

The breach of Dilmun of the Northern Wall.


 

 

Overview of Dalamatia and Dilmun

The Walls of Dilmun
   

The walled rectangular enclosure of Dilmun
used for Agriculture and protection

Another over view of Babel in Dilmun
 

The Lost Cities of Dalamatia and Dilmun in the Persian Gulf

The site of the circular foundations of Babel in Dilmun
Dilmun may have been built on a peninsula
 A view of the Walls of Dilmun

Here is a Google Earth file with Place marks
of the Adamson and other discovered ancient civilisations

Google Earth Adamson Civilisation

Prophetical and reflective links of Dilmun from the forum replies and studies.

Reflections of Dimun in the book of dreams 2
Dilmun and Nostradamus
Elysian fields Nostradamus and Dilmun
Links to Dilmun
The Road to Dilmun
Enlil and Dilmun
Dilmun land of the living
Babel/Dilmun, Jesus, Isa and the end times
The Fall of Babylon/Babel in the end times
The connection from Jesus family tomb to Dilmun
The Egyptian Pyramid mystery that link to Dilmun

Reflections of Dilmun in Nostradamus

City of the Sun study

'Inanas' servants wearing her triangle signs depicting space for her power
Circle and the triangle symbol
Jesus connection

 

Clues in the Urantia Book about Dilmun

Word search on Dilmun.

Results for query "dilmun"

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PAPER 89 - SIN, SACRIFICE, AND ATONEMENT, Oct 19 2000
 

PAPER 77 - THE MIDWAY CREATURES, Oct 19 2000
 

 

The Key words that describe Dilmun are

 

Clues of Dilmun tells me the cultural center adjoins the sea, the tower of Bablot was close to the sea.  The tower of Bablot is bigger than anything the world has seen..  It was great commercial center. 

Dilmun is to the East of Dalamatia.  I had a large farming environment.

Sumerian Scripts about Dilmun

http://earth-history.com/Sumer/Kramer/sumer-kramer-ch2.htm

The land Dilmun is a pure place, the land Dilmun is a clean place,
The land Dilmun is a clean place, the land Dilmun is a bright place;
He who is all alone laid himself down in Dilmun,
The place, after Enki had laid himself by his wife,
That place is clean, that place is bright;
He who is all alone laid himself down in Dilmun,
The place, after Enki had laid himself by Ninsikil,
That place is clean, that place is bright.

In Dilmun the raven uttered no cries,
The kite uttered not the cry of the kite,
The lion killed not,
The wolf snatched not the lamb,
Unknown was the kid-killing dog,
Unknown was the grain-devouring boar,
The bird on high . . . not its young,
The dove . . . not the head,
The sick-eyed says not "I am sick-eyed,"
The sick-headed says not "I am sick-headed,"
Its (Dilmun's) old woman says not "I am an old woman,"
Its old man says not "I am an old man,"
Its unwashed maid is not . . . in the city,
He who crosses the river utters no . . . ,
The overseer does not . . . ,
The singer utters no wail,
By the side of the city he utters no lament.

 

and

 

Her city drinks the water of abundance,
Dilmun drinks the water of abundance,
Her wells of bitter water, behold they are become wells of good water,
Her fields and farms produced crops and grain,
Her city, behold it is become the house of the banks and quays of the land,
Dilmun, behold it is become the house of the banks and quays of the land.

and

Upon Ninhursag he caused to flow the "water of the heart,"
She received the "water of the heart," the water of Enki.
One day being her one month,
Two days being her two months,
Three days being her three months,
Four days being her four months,
Five days (being her five months,)
Six days (being her six months,)
Seven days (being her seven months,)
Eight days (being her eight months,)
Nine days being her nine months, the months of "womanhood,"
Like . . . fat, like . . . fat, like good butter,
Nintu, the mother of the land, like . . . fat, (like . . . fat, like good butter,)
Gave birth to Ninsar.

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A 5000 year old story similar to that of the biblical Garden of Eden, in which the God Enki nibbles forbidden plants on the idyllic island of Dilmun (now Bahrein). Illustration Courtesy of Aramco World,3/4/00

http://www.hebrewhistory.info/factpapers/fp043-1_preislam.htm

 

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Portions of a 5000 year old epic, the story of Gilgamesh, King of Uruk in Mesopotamia. Gilgamesh visited Dilmun a lush island in the Persian Gulf, and termed it “the land of immortality.” It is among the earliest records of contact between the progenitors of the Jews, the Akkadians, and the Arabs. Two millennia later, Babylonian/Jewish traders established colonies along overland trade routes through Arabia to Himyara, and on Dilmun (my view, Later associated with Bahrain, similar to Dilmun being associated with Dalamatia as the population migrated.) and on another island in the Gulf of Aqaba, Yotabe (now Jijban) as staging posts on the way to India and Northwest Africa. The Jews and the Arabs maintained a close and benign relationship throughout the thousand-year pre-Islamic period.
 

 



Its certainly and interesting study of ancient Dilmun in the land of Shinar which to me was a wide open plain filled with water. Apparently the Persian Gulf 15,000BC was filled with rivers, swamps and freshwater lakes.  However that would of changed when the sea levels arose.

Also I was looking at the following verse of Enkis description of Dilmun.

When you consider the following image of Dilmun does look like a match considering

 

Quote:
"...Uperi, king of Dilmun, whose camp is situated, like a fish, thirty beru (double-hours) away in the midst of the sea of the rising sun..." (p. 334. Potts)

Hymns to Enki, who resided at Eridu, stated that the city was at the edge of _the sea_ and the shadow cast by its fruit trees panted by his shrine fell upon the nearby snake marsh.

The outline of Dilmun does have a North South aspect and if it did reside on a peninsula backed by freshwater bays and quays it would of been literally seen as in the midst of the sea. appearing to be jutting out in the sea of water on spit of land or isthmus. It also makes reference to his shrine which of course was close to the sea on the spit of land within Dilmun. This shrine Enki makes I believe is reference to the tower of Babel being of a circular structure and close to the sea as evident in the images

His fruit trees cast shadows upon his shrine. When you look to the North of the shrine there are walls used for protection farming and produce. The walled section used for produce is next to his shrine, the tower. But also the walls could next to the snake marsh or the marshy swamp area to the North.

Note that Dalamatia has the same rectangular walled area used for growing produce.


Also the City of Dilmun, possibly on a isthmus in the North South aspect looks like a fish, the outline of Dilmun looks like an actual fish. With protection all around. Also the snake marsh could be the depressed area on the eastern side of the walls. It appears that Dilmun was almost surrounded by water, swamp marshes lakes and lagoons. It was a well protected commercial centre.


http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dilmun/babel2.jpg


Enki I believe is giving us a very clear physical description of the City of Dilmun as discovered.

Dilmun which looks like a big fish with the shrine as the eye.

Also does the fish like description has the appearance of an isthmus with a large swamp area close by?

Also Bablot Tower seems to resemble an eye in the faintest sense! What else uses an eye for a symbol? Remembering this place was the first home of the Nodites! The Nodite culture.

 


regards
sevens

Description of Dalamatia
but may also describe Dilmun being on a isthmus surrounded by swamps and a rising sea.

 

Enki, in the swampland, in the swampland, lies stretched out,
He says to his messenger Isimud:
"What is this (plant), what is this (plant)?"

His messenger, Isimud, answers him;
"My king, this is the 'tree-plant'," he says to him.
He cuts it off for him and he (Enki) eats it.

Enki: "What is this, what is this?"
Isimud: "My king, this is the 'honey-plant'."
He tears it off for him and he eats it.

 

Searching fro more clues about Dilmun

http://www.crystalinks.com/dilmun.html

A number of these Indus Valley seals have turned up at Ur and other Mesopotamian sites. "Persian Gulf" types of circular stamped rather than rolled seals, known from Dilmun, that appear at Lothal in Gujarat, India, and Faylahkah, as well as in Mesopotamia, are convincing corroboration of the long-distance sea trade

 

Seals depict Enki, God of wisdom and sweet water. Gilgamesh as a massive and heroic figure, the 'Bull of heaven' hat. Ladies of the mountains 'Inanas' servants wearing her triangle signs depicting space for her power. 'Nana' is the moon god who was also named 'sin'. Symbol was the bull of heaven head. Inana, goddess of immortality.
triangle signs

From the dreams of Gilgamesh, to the philosophy of life. Seals depicting a harmonious life with nature and god . Indisputably the ancient myths of immortality and resurrection influenced Dilmun beliefs and are abundantly supported in the seal designs, represented by gods of the sun and moon.

The Mesopotamian texts described Tilmun as situated at the 'mouth' of two bodies of water.

(Ancient Dalamatia was situated at the mouth of these major river systems, major bodies of water, in between them.)

The texts spoke of mountainous Tilmun.

The cradle of civilization is sometimes referenced by the name Dilmun, or Tilmun. Here, it was said, the god Ea and his wife were placed to institute 'a sinless age of complete happiness'.

Here too animals lived in peace and harmony, man had no rival and the god Enlil `in one tongue gave praise'. It is also described as a pure, clean and `bright' `abode of the immortals' where death, disease and sorrow are unknown and some mortals have been given `life like a god', words reminiscent of the Airyana Vaejah, the realm of the immortals in Iranian myth and legend, and the Eden of Hebraic tradition

Although Dilmun is equated by most scholars with the island of Bahrain in the Persian Gulf, there is evidence to suggest that a much earlier mythical Dilmun was located in a mountainous region beyond the plains of Sumer  (in my view North Eastern Persian Gulf flanked by mountains of Iran)

Furthermore, Ea (the Akkadian Enki) was said to have presided over the concourse of Mesopotamia's two greatest rivers - the Tigris and Euphrates - which are shown in depictions as flowing from each of his shoulders.

Dilmun was allegedly a magical land, the birthplace of the gods and the place where the arts of civilization where said first to have been transmitted to men. It was the subject of many legends told by the Sumerians, the people of southern Iraq; it was famed as a land where death and disease were unknown and men and animals lived at peace together.

(It really speaking in truth about Dalamatia)

The first great hero of world literature, Gilgamesh the king of Uruk, journeyed to Dilmun in search of the secret of eternal youth.  ( really its Dalamatia)

He found it deep in the waters of the Persian Gulf, off Bahrain, but lost it when the flower which restored the youth of those who sought it, was stolen by a snake, lurking in a pool as Gilgamesh returned to his kingdom; this is the reason why the snake sloughs his skin.

On one ancient tablet dated 3100 B.C. Dilmun is described as an "Elysium" where the inhabitants were eternally young and suffered no illnesses, "where the raven did not croak and wolves and lion did not devour their prey.

News Flash!!

Here is a recent addition/connection on 23rd March 07 between Nostradamus and Dilmun, the Elysian fields which includes all the ancient foundations like 1st Eden.  I think this is a connecting prophecy between Nostradamus in metaphor to the Elysian fields Dilmun to the expeditions and the quest for truth to the foundations.  Also there is some intriguing references to the Seventh and the year of accomplishment!

For more intriguing revealing of Nostradamus in connection to this path search go to the following link.
http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,417.15.html

Quote
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The forces of the sea divided into three parts,
The second one will run out of supplies,
In despair looking for the Elysian Fields,  (dilmun direct reference)
The first ones to enter the breach will obtain the victory.


Thinking about this again "The second one will run out of supplies,"  this could also be a reflection of the under funded 2nd expedition to 1Eden/Atlantis made by Robert Sarmast.  Unfortunately there was only enough funds to do a quick scan over one target out of 4 targets.  Generally speaking the verse could simply reflect a lack of funds of the 2nd expedition to the ancient foundations..

http://www.crystalinks.com/quatrainscentury10.html

looking at the following one  It refers to the great Seventh number, I would think that to mean 2007 not far from the previous Olympic games, or it could also be a direct reference to this seven research by sevens http://www.dalamatiacity.com.  It seems to associate the Seventh with the transition into the new age.  The Sevenfold is behind the discoveries of the ancient places.  Amazing! "When the buried will go out from their tombs"  When the research and discoveries are complete who knows what transition will entails.  If the Seven commands are found in the ancient foundations as prophesied than anything can happen.  The door is open for Paradise to respond, the way is made clear!  In each Epochal transition the sleeping personalities are resurrected by the role call of Gabriel.

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74
The year of the great seventh number accomplished,
It will appear at the time of the games of slaughter:
Not far from the great millennial age,
When the buried will go out from their tombs.

continuing....

Dilmun is described as an "Elysium"

Here is another connection

Elysium

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elysium

For the band, see Elysium (band).

In Greek mythology, Elysium (Greek: Ἠλύσια πεδία) was a section of the Underworld (the spelling Elysium is a Latinization of the Greek word Elysion). Elysium is an obscure and mysterious name that evolved from a designation of a place or person struck by lightning, enelysion, enelysios.[1] Alternately, scholars have also suggested that Greek Elysion may instead derive from the Egyptian term ialu (older iaru), meaning "reeds," with specific reference to the "Reed fields" (Egyptian: sekhet iaru / ialu), a paradisiacal land of plenty where the dead hoped to spend eternity. Biblical scholars have suggested that Elysion may derive from Elisha, who was, according to Genesis, a son of Yawan (Iouan, forefather of the Ionians) and one of the ancestors of the Greeks. Elisha may have been worshipped as a god by his earliest descendents.

The Elysian fields, or sometimes Elysian plains, were the final resting place of the souls of the heroic and the virtuous. Two Homeric passages in particular established for Greeks the nature of the Afterlife: the dreamed apparition of the dead Patroclus in the Iliad and the more daring boundary-breaking visit in Book 11 of the Odyssey. Greek traditions concerning funerary ritual were reticent, but the Homeric examples encouraged other heroic visits, in the myth cycles centered around Theseus and Heracles.[2]

The Elysian Fields lay on the western margin of the earth, by the encircling stream of Oceanus, and there the mortal relatives of the king of the gods were transported, without tasting death, to enjoy an immortality of bliss (Odyssey 4.563). Lesser spirits were less fortunate: an eerie passage describes the twittering bat-like ghosts of Penelope's slain suitors, led by Hermes:

"down the dank

moldering paths and past the Ocean's streams they went

and past the White Rock and the Sun's Western Gates and past

the Land of Dreams, and soon they reached the fields of asphodel

where the dead, the burnt-out wraiths of mortals make their home"

(Odyssey 24.5-9, translation by Robert Fagles).

Hesiod refers to the Isles of the Blessed (makarôn nêsoi) in the Western Ocean (Works and Days). Pindar makes it a single island. Walter Burkert notes the connection with the motif of far-off Dilmun: "Thus Achilles is transported to the White Isle and becomes the Ruler of the Black Sea, and Diomedes becomes the divine lord of an Adriatic island."[3]

In Elysium were fields of the pale liliaceous asphodel, and poplars grew. There stood the gates that led to the house of Ais (in Attic dialect "Hades").

In Virgil's Aeneid, Aeneas, like Heracles and Odysseus before him, travels to the underworld. Virgil describes an encounter in Elysium between Aeneas and his father Anchises. Virgil's Elysium knows perpetual spring and shady groves, with its own sun and lit by its own stars: solemque suum, sua sidera norunt (Aeneid, 6.541).

 

I found that very interesting Yavan is connected to the early Greeks, The pre Greeks the Adamson civilisation the civilisation of the eldest son of Adam.  The Javans were the Greeks before they became the Greeks and was the 4th son of Japeth who was the 4th and youngest son to Noah.   Another word for the Javan(pre Greeks) is young or the Young or perhaps the Younger.

Connection!

addition/connection on 23rd March 07
Another Nostradamus connection to the young, younger or the Javan with ultimately leads back directly to the Adamson Civilisation. 

The land of Brittany could be a colony of Britain in today's times!  The Vestals could be representative of new truth as opposed to old superseded truth and war could be the change or transition as truth unveils itself.

95
The realm left to two they will hold it very briefly,
Three years and seven months passed by they will make war:
The two Vestals will rebel in opposition,
Victor the younger in the land of Brittany.

continuing....

Its interesting how the Dilmun legend was assimilated in the Greek record of their ancient history.  Even the description of the location of the Dilmun the The Elysian Fields sounds very similar to the location of Dalamatia and Dilmun within the Persian Gulf.

The Elysian Fields lay on the western margin of the earth, by the encircling stream of Oceanus, and there the mortal relatives of the king of the gods were transported, without tasting death, to enjoy an immortality of bliss (Odyssey 4.563). Lesser spirits were less fortunate: an eerie passage describes the twittering bat-like ghosts of Penelope's slain suitors, led by Hermes:

The Elysian Field was encircled by the Persian Gulf, the encircling stream of the ocean. It was the first place of the Gods Dalamatia.  Where they lived for thousands of years of the tree of life and so did some of the mortal helpers.  It really seems to describe the location of Dalamatia

 "Thus Achilles is transported to the White Isle and becomes the Ruler of the Black Sea, and Diomedes becomes the divine lord of an Adriatic island."

Its funny in the search for Dalamatia I came across the white island, isle of the Gods and immediately I thought of Dalamatia and discovered it.  It was latitude 28 that alerted me of the location.

When I read about the Elysian fields I thought straight away of Dalamatia which is represented in the somewhat garbled descriptions of Dilmun.

Which makes me think when Dilmun submerged around 9000 years ago the second last Andite dispersal must of effected the Javans (the Young) of Greeks and influenced there mythology in the tales of the Elysian fields which were really an account of Dalamatia through the eyes of Dilmun when the story was given to the pre Greeks.  Remembering from the UB account that Dilmun was the home of the Nodites and rebels to the Fathers Way.  All the legends of immortality that speak of Dilmun was taken from the true previous home of the Gods that was very pure and was sinless.  Dalamatia!

"down the dank
moldering paths and past the Ocean's streams they went
and past the White Rock and the Sun's Western Gates and past
the Land of Dreams, and soon they reached the fields of asphodel
where the dead, the burnt-out wraiths of mortals make their home"

I find the above interesting like White Rock.  It could mean the tower of Babel as a marker or it could mean Dalamatia itself.  The Suns western gates refers to perhaps the gates of Dalamatia.  Dalamatia was protected by a 40 foot wall which included farming areas and one had to be admitted in the place through a gate.  The same reasoning applies to Dilmun and its walled enclosures.  Then past the "land of dreams" sounds like another description of the true land of the Gods Dalamatia,  Then they reach the other side on the other shore.  Seems to have all the key markers to the location of the land of the Gods in the North Eastern Persian Gulf where two prefound cities emerged virtually side by side.

An interesting essay

http://www.crystalinks.com/greekmythology1.html

 

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:47 pm    Post subject:

Hi Coors, no Worries

Its certainly and interesting study of ancient Dilmun in the land of Shinar which to me was a wide open plain filled with water. Apparently the Persian Gulf 15,000BC was filled rivers, swamps and freshwater lakes.

Also I was looking at the following verse of Enkis description of Dilmun.

When you consider the following image of Dilmun does look like a match considering

 

"...Uperi, king of Dilmun, whose camp is situated, like a fish, thirty beru (double-hours) away in the midst of the sea of the rising sun..." (p. 334. Potts)

Hymns to Enki, who resided at Eridu, stated that the city was at the edge of _the sea_ and the shadow cast by its fruit trees panted by his shrine fell upon the nearby snake marsh.

The outline of Dilmun does have a North South aspect and if it did reside on a peninsula backed by freshwater bays and quays it would of been literally seen as in the midst of the sea. appearing to be jutting out in the sea of water on spit of land or isthmus. It also makes reference to his shrine which of course was close to the sea on the spit of land within Dilmun. This shrine Enki makes I believe is reference to the tower of Babel being of a circular structure and close to the sea as evident in the images

His fruit trees cast shadows upon his shrine. When you look to the North of the shrine there are walls used for protection farming and produce. The walled section used for produce is next to his shrine, the tower. But also the walls could next to the snake marsh or the marshy swamp area to the North.

Note that Dalamatia has the same rectangular walled area used for growing produce.


Also the City of Dilmun, possibly on a isthmus in the North South aspect looks like a fish, the outline of Dilmun looks like an actual fish. With protection all around. Also the snake marsh could be the depressed area on the eastern side of the walls. It appears that Dilmun was almost surrounded by water, swamp marshes lakes and lagoons. It was a well protected commercial centre.


http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dilmun/babel2.jpg

 



Enki I believe is giving us a very clear physical description of the City of Dilmun as discovered.

Dilmun which looks like a big fish with the shrine as the eye.

Also does the fish like description has the appearance of an isthmus with a large swamp area close by?

sevens

The tower of Bablot/Babel link

Tower of Bablot

 

In the following is accumulated research on Bablot

 
 

http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/webglimpse/usr/local/www/data/papers?query=bablot&submit=Submit

 
Quote:
3. THE TOWER OF BABEL

After the submergence of Dalamatia the Nodites moved north and east, presently founding the new city of Dilmun as their racial and cultural headquarters. And about fifty thousand years after the death of Nod, when the offspring of the Prince's staff had become too numerous to find subsistence in the lands immediately surrounding their new city of Dilmun, and after they had reached out to intermarry with the Andonite and Sangik tribes adjoining their borders, it occurred to their leaders that something should be done to preserve their racial unity. Accordingly a council of the tribes was called, and after much deliberation the plan of Bablot, a descendant of Nod, was indorsed.

Bablot proposed to erect a pretentious temple of racial glorification at the center of their then occupied territory. This temple was to have a tower the like of which the world had never seenIt was to be a monumental memorial to their passing greatness. .

There were many who wished to have this monument erected in Dilmun, but others contended that such a great structure should be placed a safe distance from the dangers of the sea, remembering the traditions of the engulfment of their first capital, Dalamatia.

Bablot planned that the new buildings should become the nucleus of the future center of the Nodite culture and civilization. His counsel finally prevailed, and construction was started in accordance with his plans. The new city was to be named Bablot after the architect and builder of the tower. This location later became known as Bablod and eventually as Babel.


But the Nodites were still somewhat divided in sentiment as to the plans and purposes of this undertaking. Neither were their leaders altogether agreed concerning either construction plans or usage of the buildings after they should be completed. After four and one-half years of work a great dispute arose about the object and motive for the erection of the tower. The contentions became so bitter that all work stopped. The food carriers spread the news of the dissension, and large numbers of the tribes began to forgather at the building site. Three differing views were propounded as to the purpose of building the tower.

1. The largest group, almost one half, desired to see the tower built as a memorial of Nodite history and racial superiority. They thought it ought to be a great and imposing structure which would challenge the admiration of all future generations.

2. The next largest faction wanted the tower designed to commemorate the Dilmun culture. They foresaw that Bablot would become a great center of commerce, art, and manufacture.

Page 859 3. The smallest and minority contingent held that the erection of the tower presented an opportunity for making atonement for the folly of their progenitors in participating in the Caligastia rebellion. They maintained that the tower should be devoted to the worship of the Father of all, that the whole purpose of the new city should be to take the place of Dalamatia--to function as the cultural and religious center for the surrounding barbarians.

The religious group were promptly voted down. The majority rejected the teaching that their ancestors had been guilty of rebellion; they resented such a racial stigma. Having disposed of one of the three angles to the dispute and failing to settle the other two by debate, they fell to fighting. The religionists, the noncombatants, fled to their homes in the south, while their fellows fought until well-nigh obliterated.

About twelve thousand years ago a second attempt to erect the tower of Babel was made. The mixed races of the Andites (Nodites and Adamites) undertook to raise a new temple on the ruins of the first structure, but there was not sufficient support for the enterprise; it fell of its own pretentious weight. This region was long known as the land of Babel.



I felt that was interesting and there is some good clues.

Like the religious group who fled to the South to there homes. This tells me that Dilmun must of had land to the south adjoining a coastline. It was a North/South city with the sea to the east.

Its interesting that a 2nd attempt to erect Babel was made on the first foundations. Is that to mean that the ancient land Dilmun was above water?? 12,000 years ago?

Note that 12,000 years ago the sea level was lower and maybe the ancient lands of Dilmun was above water. Dilmun must of been on a higher level than Dalamatia.

It seems Dilmun, east of the ruins of Dalamatia was occupied up to 12,000 years ago. However since then the sea level has rose and submerged the ancient place Dilmun.

Here is a image of what I think is the foundations of Bablot/Babel and including clues of the general area. Dilmun must been built in a North South fashion and was next to a sea.

It must of been on the Eastern Persian Gulf which is now submerged.


 http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dilmun5.jpg


Im still thinking about it more
 

Its interesting that the timeline and the sea levels 12,000 ago seems to be right


 

quote:

Sea levels 12,000 years ago
World coasts have seen sea-level variation of approximately 100 metres within the past 11,500 years through melting of the ice caps. When the ice caps melt the sea level rises globally (eustatically). The relative sea-level at any location is measured proportionate to the nearby land, which is itself subject to tectonic movement both up and down.


and

Wikipedia Deluge

In the relatively recent geological past, several great floods are widely suspected to have occurred, with varying amounts of supporting evidence, usually as a result of the last Ice Age ending.

At the most recent glacial maximum, so much of the planet's water was locked up in the vast ice-sheets that formed ice domes kilometers thick, that the sea level dropped by about 120 to 130 meters. As the sheets melted starting around 18,000 years ago sea levels rose. Most of the glacial melt had occurred by around 8,000 years ago, but the changes have not been as regular as a constant drip at the edges of the world's glaciers might suggest.

So it seems to me that 1st Dilmun was above water 12,000 years ago and was occupied. Considering the present ruins isn't that far under the current sea level. This is around the times when the Harrappan coastline cities where lost due to increasing sea levels.

Dilmun from what I can see was a huge cultural and commercial center.

regards
sevens

[ 01-10-2007, 09:01 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Here is something that seems to indicate an earlier position of Dilmun near the North Eastern cost of the Persian Gulf


 

quote:

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Just as cuneiform sources situate Dilmun and Magan on the western shore of the Persian Gulf, recent scholarship has favored locating the region of Mishime (Miæima), attested in pre-Sargonic and Old Akkadian sources, or P/Bashime, as it was generally known in Old Akkadian, Ur III and Old Babylonian texts, along the northeastern coast of the Gulf, roughly between Bushehr and the Shatt al-Arab (ˆatÂt al-¿Arab) estuary (Steinkeller, 1982, pp. 240-2) or possibly more precisely in the area of Bandar-e Deylam (e.g. Vallat, 1993, p. CXXVI). Mishime is first attested during the reign of Eannatum of Lagash (ca. r. 2450-25 BCE) who, in addition to conquering Elam, claims to have raided and destroyed Mishime (Sollberger and Kupper, 1971, pp. 58-59; Selz, 1991, pp. 34,

For me personally I think Bahrain is a second Dilmun which transferred from Dilmun of North Eastern Persian Gulf Iran I believe Iran Dilmun is the first Dilmun.

I wonder what scholarly information leads them to Dilmun on the North Eastern in section of the gulf?

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sevens

[ 01-10-2007, 09:44 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Hi

That was beautiful. I really enjoy reading the Adventures of Robert Sarmast. If it wasn't for him all this type of research wouldn't of happened. I'm glad he walked in faith and went out there and found 1stEden/Atlantis. I was so inspired by his efforts that it lead me to search for Eden in the Bible and through other scripts which simply led to where I'm at right now. On the shores of Dalamatia, Dilmun and Babel, how fantastic is that!!

I wish Robert Sarmast all the best in all he does in uncovering truth. Robert Sarmast is the biggest history changer around. Where no ones dares to venture to, he goes there and does stuff!

Currently, I'm researching the sea level at around 12,000 years ago to make sure Dilmun was above water.

Its interesting that the timeline and the sea levels 12,000 ago seems to be right


 

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Sea levels 12,000 years ago
World coasts have seen sea-level variation of approximately 100 metres within the past 11,500 years through melting of the ice caps. When the ice caps melt the sea level rises globally (eustatically). The relative sea-level at any location is measured proportionate to the nearby land, which is itself subject to tectonic movement both up and down.


and

Wikipedia Deluge

In the relatively recent geological past, several great floods are widely suspected to have occurred, with varying amounts of supporting evidence, usually as a result of the last Ice Age ending.

At the most recent glacial maximum, so much of the planet's water was locked up in the vast ice-sheets that formed ice domes kilometers thick, that the sea level dropped by about 120 to 130 meters. As the sheets melted starting around 18,000 years ago sea levels rose. Most of the glacial melt had occurred by around 8,000 years ago, but the changes have not been as regular as a constant drip at the edges of the world's glaciers might suggest.


So it seems to me that 1st Dilmun was above water 12,000 years ago and was occupied. Considering the present ruins isn't that far under the current sea level. This is around the times when the Harrappan coastline cities where lost due to increasing sea levels.

Dilmun from what I can see was a huge cultural and commercial center.

Also

Here is something that seems to indicate an earlier position of Dilmun near the North Eastern coast of the Persian Gulf
 

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Just as cuneiform sources situate Dilmun and Magan on the western shore of the Persian Gulf, recent scholarship has favored locating the region of Mishime (Miæima), attested in pre-Sargonic and Old Akkadian sources, or P/Bashime, as it was generally known in Old Akkadian, Ur III and Old Babylonian texts, along the northeastern coast of the Gulf, roughly between Bushehr and the Shatt al-Arab (ˆatÂt al-¿Arab) estuary (Steinkeller, 1982, pp. 240-2) or possibly more precisely in the area of Bandar-e Deylam (e.g. Vallat, 1993, p. CXXVI). Mishime is first attested during the reign of Eannatum of Lagash (ca. r. 2450-25 BCE) who, in addition to conquering Elam, claims to have raided and destroyed Mishime (Sollberger and Kupper, 1971, pp. 58-59; Selz, 1991, pp. 34,


and some aspects of Dilmun found in tablets
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"...Bit-Iakin on the shore of the Bitter Sea, as far as Dilmun's border- all these I brought under one rule..." (p. 335. Potts)

"...Uperi, king of Dilmun, whose camp is situated, like a fish, thirty beru (double-hours) away in the midst of the sea of the rising sun..." (p. 334. Potts)

Hymns to Enki, who resided at Eridu, stated that the city was at the edge of _the sea_ and the shadow cast by its fruit trees panted by his shrine fell upon the nearby snake marsh.

The Mesopotamians called the salt-marshes marattu meaning "bitter" (marah = bitter), perhaps the Hawr Hammar preserves in Arabic the earlier Mesopotamian marattu ?

(Seems to match dilmun submerged Northeastern Persian Gulf.)

 

I wonder what scholarly information leads them to Dilmun on the North Eastern in section of the gulf?

regards
sevens


More links of 12,000 years ago

A result of Andite know how.

http://www.spelt.com/origins.html

Archaeologists said that radiocarbon dating was not yet precise enough to establish whether einkorn or emmer wheat or barley was the first cereal to be domesticated. All three domestications occurred in the Fertile Crescent, probably within decades or a few centuries of each other. It was a hybrid of emmer and another species from the Caspian Sea area that produced the first bread wheat.

Dr. Bruce D. Smith, an archaeobiologist at the Smithsonian Institution and author of "The Emergence of Agriculture," published two years ago by the Scientific American Library, praised the research as another notable example of new technologies' being applied in trying to solve some of archaeology's most challenging problems. The einkorn findings, he said, made sense because they "fit pretty well with archaeological evidence."

Not far from the volcanic Karacadag Mountains and also to the south, across the border in northern Syria, archaeologists have exposed the ruins of prefarming settlements and early agricultural villages that appear to have existed only a few centuries apart in time. Sifting the soil turned up seeds of both wild and cultivated einkorn wheat. The ruins of Abu Hureyra, an especially revealing Syrian site on the upper Euphrates River, contained firm evidence of einkorn farming more than 10,000 years ago. The European research team also pointed to this archaeological evidence as supporting its conclusion that the domestication of einkorn wheat began in the Karacadag area.

Here is a link about Armenia it gives us insights in the later Vanties and Adamsonites.

http://www.accuracyingenesis.com/ararat.html

 

67:4.4 The staff rebels, deprived of spiritual sustenance, eventually died a natural death. And much of the subsequent idolatry of the human races grew out of the desire to perpetuate the memory of these highly honored beings of the days of Caligastia.

 

Here is a thread on the road to Dilmun in the journey to the ancient places

http://www.geocities.com/garyweb65/eden1.html

The Paradise-Dilmun (for a lack of a better term) is described as the "place where the sun rises" so it would have to be to the east of Sumer

More links to information about Dilmun