Tablet 34

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Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sun Mar 01, 2009 5:46 am

A mystery, Where did the ninth and tenth planet go?
A UB study based on the date of 1932

http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper57.html
PAPER 57 - THE ORIGIN OF URANTIA


 

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As the Angona system drew nearer, the solar extrusions grew larger and larger; more and more matter was drawn from the sun to become independent circulating bodies in surrounding space. This situation developed for about five hundred thousand years until Angona made its closest approach to the sun; whereupon the sun, in conjunction with one of its periodic internal convulsions, experienced a partial disruption; from opposite sides and simultaneously, enormous volumes of matter were disgorged. From the Angona side there was drawn out a vast column of solar gases, rather pointed at both ends and markedly bulging at the center, which became permanently detached from the immediate gravity control of the sun.

This great column of solar gases which was thus separated from the sun subsequently evolved into the twelve planets of the solar system. The repercussional ejection of gas from the opposite side of the sun in tidal sympathy with the extrusion of this gigantic solar system ancestor, has since condensed into the meteors and space dust of the solar system, although much, very much, of this matter was subsequently recaptured by solar gravity as the Angona system receded into remote space.

Although Angona succeeded in drawing away the ancestral material of the solar system planets and the enormous volume of matter now circulating about the sun as asteroids and meteors, it did not secure for itself any of this solar matter. The visiting system did not come quite close enough to actually steal any of the sun's substance, but it did swing sufficiently close to draw off into the intervening space all of the material comprising the present-day solar system.



and further down

 

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Jupiter and Saturn, being derived from the very center of the enormous column of superheated solar gases, contained so much highly heated sun material that they shone with a brilliant light and emitted enormous volumes of heat; they were in reality secondary suns for a short period after their formation as separate space bodies. These two largest of the solar system planets have remained largely gaseous to this day, not even yet having cooled off to the point of complete condensation or solidification.

The gas-contraction nucleuses of the other ten planets soon reached the stage of solidification and so began to draw to themselves increasing quantities of the meteoric matter circulating in near-by space. The worlds of the solar system thus had a double origin: nucleuses of gas condensation later on augmented by the capture of enormous quantities of meteors. Indeed they still continue to capture meteors, but in greatly lessened numbers.

The planets do not swing around the sun in the equatorial plane of their solar mother, which they would do if they had been thrown off by solar revolution. Rather, they travel in the plane of the Angona solar extrusion, which existed at a considerable angle to the plane of the sun's equator.



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4,000,000,000 years ago witnessed the organization of the Jupiter and Saturn systems much as observed today except for their moons, which continued to increase in size for several billions of years. In fact, all of the planets and satellites of the solar system are still growing as the result of continued meteoric captures.

          3,500,000,000 years ago the condensation nucleuses of the other ten planets were well formed, and the cores of most of the moons were intact, though some of the smaller satellites later united to make the present-day larger moons. This age may be regarded as the era of planetary assembly.

          3,000,000,000 years ago the solar system was functioning much as it does today. Its members continued to grow in size as space meteors continued to pour in upon the planets and their satellites at a prodigious rate.
About this time your solar system was placed on the physical registry of Nebadon and given its name, Monmatia

However the Fifth planet was destroyed, leaving 11 planets of the Solar System.

 

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Shooting stars occur in swarms because they are the fragments of larger bodies of matter which have been disrupted by tidal gravity exerted by near-by and still larger space bodies. Saturn's rings are the fragments of a disrupted satellite. One of the moons of Jupiter is now approaching dangerously near the critical zone of tidal disruption and, within a few million years, will either be claimed by the planet or will undergo gravity-tidal disruption. The fifth planet of the solar system of long, long ago traversed an irregular orbit, periodically making closer and closer approach to Jupiter until it entered the critical zone of gravity-tidal disruption, was swiftly fragmentized, and became the present-day cluster of asteroids.



So that leaves 11 planets

in summary

 

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This great column of solar gases which was thus separated from the sun subsequently evolved into the twelve planets of the solar system.

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These two largest of the solar system planets have remained largely gaseous to this day, not even yet having cooled off to the point of complete condensation or solidification.

The gas-contraction nucleuses of the other ten planets soon reached the stage of solidification and so began to draw to themselves increasing quantities of the meteoric matter circulating in near-by space.

and

4,000,000,000 years ago witnessed the organization of the Jupiter and Saturn systems much as observed today except for their moons, which continued to increase in size for several billions of years. In fact, all of the planets and satellites of the solar system are still growing as the result of continued meteoric captures.

3,500,000,000 years ago the condensation nucleuses [b]of the other ten planets were well formed[/b], and the cores of most of the moons were intact, though some of the smaller satellites later united to make the present-day larger moons. This age may be regarded as the era of planetary assembly.


So the Ub says

10 solid planets 2 Gaseous planets = 12 planets in total.

1 Solid planet, the fifth was destroyed leaving 2 gaseous and 9 planets.= 11 planets.
2 gaseous and 9 Solid planets.


However, in light of today's knowledge is recognized nine planets in total before Pluto was downgraded from a planet to a planetoid so now it leaves 8 planets? in total and recognized in the world today. But in 1932 it was recognized 9 planets in our solar system.

I assume this number accounts for all the solid planets including the gaseous planets. 9 planets in all. But the UB speaks of 11 planets in total.

 

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The IAU has changed the definition of "planet" so that Pluto no longer qualifies. There are now officially only eight planets in our solar system. Of course this change in terminology does not affect what's actually out there. In the end, it's not very important how we classify the various objects in our solar system. What is important is to learn about their physical nature and their histories.

http://www.nineplanets.org/



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The Urantia Book recognizes 11 planets in total.

The world recognizes lets say 9 planets before deregistration of Pluto including the 2 gaseous planets considering the time of the 1932 of when the UB came in I would assume the UB recognized Pluto as a planet.

The question I have is where is the other 2 solid planets that make up the Urantia planet number series of 11 planets in total?

Assuming Pluto is planet 9 of the planets in total of the solar system recognized by the world in 1932? Where is planet 10 and 11 of the solid series that make up the Urantia Book calculation of 9 solid planets plus the two gaseous planets? Where are two planets short in the equation. Where are they?

Note: when Pluto was discovered 1930 before the UB came in Pluto would be recognized as part of the 9 solid planets in its total numbering.

 

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From its discovery in 1930 until 2006, Pluto was considered the Solar System's ninth planet. In the late 20th and early 21st centuries, however, many objects similar to Pluto were discovered in the outer solar system, notably the scattered disc object Eris, which is 27% more massive than Pluto.[11] On August 24, 2006, the IAU defined the term "planet" for the first time. This definition excluded Pluto, which the IAU reclassified as a member of the new category of dwarf planets along with Eris and Ceres: Just as Ceres is part of the asteroid belt without being dominant within it, so Pluto is part of the Kupier belt without being dominant within it.[12] After the reclassification, Pluto was added to the list of minor planets and given the number 134340.[13][14] A number of scientists continue to hold that Pluto should be classified as a planet.[15]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluto



In conclusion there are two planets missing? and if this can be verified then could the 9th or the 10th planet be the wondering planets that visits the solar system periodically causing havoc?

Could it be possible that when the partial disruption of the Sun occurred that these two missing wondering stars were at the spear head of this of the great gaseous bulge that blew out to such a distance where it escaped much of the gravity pull of the sun and it took upon itself a large periodic orbit?

Before the registration of Pluto the world recognized 9 planets in total including Jupiter and Saturn.

The Urantia Book recognizes 11 planets including the Jupiter and Saturn. 2 planets short in the equation of what the Urantia book speak so and what we recognized in 1932.

I wonder if this has something to do with Nibiru rather than the Angona System? which appears to off approached the Sun and then recessed into remote space.


Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:07 am

Continuing mystery

http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper57.html

 

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The five inner and five outer planets soon formed in miniature from the cooling and condensing nucleuses in the less massive and tapering ends of the gigantic gravity bulge which Angona had succeeded in detaching from the sun, while Saturn and Jupiter were formed from the more massive and bulging central portions. The powerful gravity pull of Jupiter and Saturn early captured most of the material stolen from Angona as the retrograde motion of certain of their satellites bears witness.



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We know that the fifth planet fragmentized of the inner five planet of the 2 Gaseous giants, this side of Jupiter leaving 4 solid planets. Looking on the other side of Saturn there are only 3 planets assuming Pluto is still a planet. Where are the two other planets of the outer five planets that make up the 9 solid planets??

Now Sedna could account for one of the two planets missing that has a huge elliptical orbit around the Sun.



This may explain on planet missing but there is still another planet missing and could that be related to Wormwood or something who also visits?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/90377_Sedna

90377 Sedna (pronounced /ˈsɛdnə/ SED-nə) is a trans-Neptunian object and a likely dwarf planet, discovered by Michael Brown (Caltech), Chad Trujillo (Gemini Observatory) and David Rabinowitz (Yale University) on November 14, 2003. It is currently 88 AU from the Sun, about three times as distant as Neptune. For most of its orbit Sedna is farther from the Sun than any other known dwarf planet candidate.[9]



Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God

Sedena may account from one of the missing planets but there is another object similiar to Sedna in its orbit and that is 2000 CR105

 

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Another possible explanation, advanced by Gomes, involves perturbations of Sedna's orbit by a hypothetical planetary-sized body in the inner Oort cloud. Recent simulations show that Sedna's orbital characteristics could be explained by perturbations by a Neptune-mass object at 2000 AU (or less), a Jupiter-mass at 5000 AU, or even an Earth-mass object at 1000 AU.[14]

Another object, 2000 CR105, has an orbit similar to Sedna's but a bit less extreme: perihelion is 44.3 AU, aphelion is 394 AU, and the orbital period is 3240 years. Its orbit may have resulted from the same processes that produced Sedna's orbit.

When first discovered, Sedna was believed to have an unusually long rotational period (20 to 50 days). A search was thus made for a natural satellite, the most likely cause for such a long rotation, but investigation by the Hubble Space Telescope in March 2004 observed no such object orbiting the planetoid. New measurements from the MMT telescope suggest a much shorter rotation period, only about 10 hours, rather typical for bodies of its size.[15]



and this from this link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_CR105

 

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(148209) 2000 CR105, also written as (148209) 2000 CR105, is currently the fourth most distant known object in the solar system after Eris, Sedna, and 2004 XR190.[5] Considered a detached object,[6][7] it circles the sun in a highly eccentric orbit every 3240 years at an average distance of 219 astronomical units (1 AU being about equal to the mean Earth-Sun distance: roughly 150,000,000 Km).

2000 CR105 has a diameter of around 253 km. This small size will probably prevent it from ever qualifying as a dwarf planet.[8]

2000 CR105 and Sedna differ from other scattered disc objects in that at their perihelion distances, they are not within the gravitational influence of the planet Neptune. It is something of a mystery how these objects came to be in their current far-flung orbits. Several hypotheses have been put forward:

They were pulled from their original positions by a passing star.[9][10]

They were pulled from their original positions by a very distant and as-yet-undiscovered (albeit unlikely) giant planet.[11]

They were pulled from their original positions by an as-yet-undiscovered companion star orbiting the Sun. (See: Nemesis (star))[11]


They were captured from another planetary system during a close encounter early in the Sun's history.[9] According to Kenyon and Bromley, there is a 15% probability that a star like the Sun had an early close encounter, and a 1% probability that outer planetary exchanges would have happened.[9] 2000 CR105 is 2–3 times more likely to be a captured planetary object than Sedna.




and note the time period of this orbit like that described by the Sumerians, the Egyptians and by the Mayans.

Could wormwood be this 2000 CR105

 

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it circles the sun in a highly eccentric orbit every 3240 years at an average distance of 219 astronomical units



All very close to the Urantia explanation.

In my mind this accounts for the two lost planets and could explain Wormwood and this visiting rouge.

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:54 am

Here information of the Nemesis star

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesis_(star)

 

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Nemesis is a hypothetical red dwarf star or brown dwarf, orbiting the Sun at a distance of about 50,000 to 100,000 AU, somewhat beyond the Oort cloud. The existence of this star was postulated in an attempt to explain an inferred periodicity in the rate of biological extinction in the geological record.



and this

 

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Development of the Nemesis hypotheses
Two teams of astronomers, Whitmire and Jackson, and Davis, Hut and Muller, independently published similar hypotheses to explain Raup and Sepkoski's extinction periodicity in the same issue of the journal Nature.[2][3] This hypothesis proposes that the sun may have an as yet undetected companion star in a highly elliptical orbit that periodically disturbs comets in the Oort cloud, causing a large increase in the number of comets visiting the inner solar system with a consequential increase in impact events on Earth. This became known as the Nemesis (or, more colorfully, Death Star) hypothesis.

If it does exist, the exact nature of Nemesis is uncertain. Richard A. Muller suggests that the most likely object is a red dwarf with magnitude between 7 and 12,[4] while Daniel P. Whitmire and Albert A. Jackson argue for a brown dwarf. If a red dwarf, it would undoubtedly already exist in star catalogs, but its true nature would only be detectable by measuring its parallax; due to orbiting the Sun it would have a very low proper motion and would escape detection by proper motion surveys that have found stars like the 9th magnitude Barnard's star.

The last major extinction event was about 5 million years ago, so Muller posits that Nemesis is likely 1-1.5 light years away at present, and even has ideas of what area of the sky it might be in (supported by Yarris, 1987), near Hydra, based on a hypothetical orbit derived from original apogees of a number of atypical long-period comets that describe an orbital arc meeting the specifications of Muller's hypothesis.



another candidate.
 

and

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/03/16/1079199220031.html

Sevens


 


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:27 am

Steam Group
Red X in the sky 2011! Nibiru,wormwood,SuperDan. (NibiruShock)

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/nibiru

 

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According to proponents such as renowned historian, Hebrew scholar, author, speaker and archaeologist Zecharia Sitchin and Burak Eldem the Nibiru appearing in Sumerian records correctly refers to a large planetary body. Their research proposes that it possesses a highly elliptical, 3630-year orbit. Such a planet would be approximately in the same orbit as 2000 CR105.

According to these theories of Sumerian cosmology, Nibiru was the twelfth member in the solar system family of planets (which includes 10 planets, the Sun, and the Moon). Its catastrophic collision with Tiamat, a planet that was between Mars and Jupiter, would have formed the planet Earth, the asteroid belt, and the Moon.



http://www.crystalinks.com/nibiru.html

But we know about the 12 planets from the Urantia book with 2 missing solid planet which I now believe is Sedna and 2000 CR105

Sevens


http://www.scienceu.com/observatory/articles/retro/retro.html

sevens


http://www.usm.lmu.de/CAST/picture.php?arch=2005/Dec_Hagen

There seems to exist a huge population of bodies between the Kuiper Belt and the Oort Cloud. The recently discovered are just the tip of the iceberg. Based on the models of the dynamical evolution of the Kuiper Belt and the constraints on its origin. I would propose that Sedna is an indigenous member of the solar system. After finishing my analysis, I would exclude that Sedna is a captured object. The clue about the environment and conditions during the formation of our Solar system is obtained as follows: I can not rule out that the Sun had a binary in the very beginning or a close encounter with a passing star.

and

http://www.orbitsimulator.com/gravity/articles/sedna.html

Astronomers Alessandro Morbidelli and Harold F. Levison investigated Sedna's origins by performing numerical integrations using the Swift_rmvs3 orbit integrator to explore the idea that Sedna may have once been gravitationally bound to another star or brown dwarf, and stripped from that other star by the Sun, where it entered a highly eccentric orbit.

 


Here is the gravity generator that displays a simulation of Sednas orbit around the sun

 

sedna.gism

simulator download

sevens



Post 5000-Years-Old Qare-Kand Site Flattened by the Islamic Repub Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:01 pm

This article displays the priorities and depth of the Iranian government, a government who would rather go to war and destroy the ancient places that belong to man and his heritage. Obviously war has a higher priority and which would bring the nation down.

So shall the Kingdom of Heaven have certain priorities regarding the Iranian government to in the end times. If that all they think off. All they think of is there unnecessary Islamic war where all there plans goes up in smoke.

 

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5000-Years-Old Qare-Kand Site Flattened by the Islamic Republic Revolutionary Guards

01 March 2009

LONDON, (CAIS) -- The Bronze Age sites of Qare-Kand has been completely oblitrated due the construction of a military base by the Islamic Republic’s Revolutionary Guards (IRRG) for the Basij Paramilitary Corp. in the area. No action to stop this cultural obliteration, was taken by the authorities at the Iran Cultural Heritage, Handicraft and Tourism Organisation (ICHHTO), reported the Persian service of CHN on Saturday.

The 5000-years-old Iranian site which was considered as one of the most important Bronze Age Sites in northwestern mainland Iran was registered on the Iranian National Heritage List (No 537). The historical site is one of the villages in the town of Bukan on the way to Mahabad, in West Azarbaijan Province. As the result of this destruction of Iranian heritage, all the secrets and the archaeological data’s of the site, which dates back from 4th millennium BCE to 1500 BCE have been lost forever.



The construction of the military base began over three years ago and despite the public outrage and constant complaints from the Friends of Cultural Heritage, the ICHHTO’s authorities chose to ignore them by not taking any action therefore the AGIR continued their destruction of the site.



“Despite all the efforts by the Friends of Cultural Heritage Society, the project began and its’ destruction is a great shock to all of us, especially when we were hearing constant insurances from the cultural authorities”, said Amir-Kadkhoda Mohamadi, one of the executives of the Society of Friends of the Historical Heritage (Izriyarto).



He added “our three years of continuous efforts have been unfruitful because of the lack of support from ICHHTO. If we had received any support from our cultural authorities, we today would not witness this devastation.”

Mohamadi expressed his concerns and concluded “we are not sure if the cultural heritage authorities want to take this matter seriously, or will take appropriate actions to prevent future construction over the historical and heritage sites.”

According to the report, Sardār-Aziz Khān Fortress site, date back to 1st millennium BCE, is likely to be the next victim with the same fate as Qare-Kand.



Sevens


Post Re: Obama Showers Wall Street Fees With Mini Stimulus (Update2) Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:45 pm

Yeah and the Nodite Banks still are protected by the bloody government.

Its a win win for the banks. Left to run reign over the people truly a woe to man, a blight on the nation and the people who were imposed upon with broken promises and deceit. Just a blight on the planet.

There is not much good left and the conduit is closing rapidly upon them. Actually the conduit has already closed on them.

All those ads on TV are nothing but hypocrisy and lies.

Yes freedom is not free ahahahahahahahah how true! Freedom comes a terrible cost like the life of a man.


Sevens


Post Evidence of Nibiru Being Removed From Web! Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:04 pm

Evidence of Nibiru Being Removed From Web!

The following images were quickly recovered before all traces of it were finally removed. A user on Liveleak posted this yesterday, and it was quickly removed for "violation of terms or copyright."


These were his own images.

You be the Judge.

http://tableofspindex.blogspot.com/2008 ... m-web.html



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Is it a bird Is it a plane or Super Nibiru! ahahahahahaha

NIBIRU ARRIVAL DATE CONFIRMED IN A CROP CIRCLE!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwA7UT65 ... re=related

Apparently May 20th 2012 (6 six days after 14/05/61) and 16 days later June 6th 2012 are important dates in this calendar and the dates seem to fall within the Shabbes timeline 3 years beforehand. v mmmmmm interesting.

Note: Dec 3rd 08 where I realised the light without heat magnetar and the time period to this conjunction is around about 3.5 years time. Interesting timing period where I have seen 3.5 years before. It could be that the Shabbes time line could mark the 1st evacuation period 3.5 year before this May 20th 2012 conjunction?? Also something happens in a 16 day period!! Interesting commonalities in time periods and dates.

Its interesting that the Shabbes timeline falls on the 4, 5, 6th month like in the Birthdate 14/5/61 as like in the Secondaries DEF 456 and Primary 456 the first! up to Primary 123, counselor of the Judgment seat who sits and works in the local system Headquarters of our local Universe, JERUSEM! or Jerusalem in the Kingdom of Heaven, the Gates of the Kingdom of Heaven.

I like also to give honour and love to the rest of the 11:11 family of Jesus midwayer group, the Arattian hero's of the Ages including all the primaries the immortal hero's of the first ages, for all there hard work and help in this almighty personal project of the Sovereign, Jesus our friend and literal Saviour of Mankind.

I also thank all of the Melchizedek brotherhood in all there guidance and support and off course the I thank the Most High and the Ancients of Days for allowing all these things to happen and all of the Universe brotherhood of the Kingdom of Heaven on all levels including the Star students from the Seven University of Havona in there participation and help including the great Sevenfold Seraphic Mission of Urantia....Right on!!! and lastly.......Glory to the Jesus, the Sovereign and the Father in Heaven! Yea!

I arise and salute the Kingdom of Heaven and all it stands for.

The new fire Eh like the Magnetar signal, the light without heat fire!

Here is the gravity generator which displays Sedna which may have been associated with the Angona System on its approach to our solar system being captured by our solar system and explains its elliptical orbit and could be the view of the future.

http://images.google.com.au/images?um=1 ... =N&ndsp=20

or http://www.dalamatiacity.com/sedna.gsim

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/GravitySimulatorSetup.exe

Sevens

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:04 pm

For sure Oranges, it could be reflection, you could be right but it does look intriguing and many people seem to find a similar thing apparently!
 

Worthwhile to check out.

This sounds logical

 

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get the darkest welding helmet and look at the sun - u will see nothing but the sun. WHAT U SEE IN THE PHOTOGRAPHS IS LENSFLARE. I am a photographer for 25 years and also looking for NIBIRU because i think there can be some truth in it - but that is only my opinion



Oh well see what happens!

Although it does look like a real spot quite more pronounced than a reflection as you see in other parts of the images.



Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:55 pm

The above post got repeated I dont know how but

No worries Oranges.

Going by faith man.

Sevens


Post Re: @ Geostrategic : Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:14 pm

I was wondering where this piece came from

 

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The Apocalypse

Rose twilight of dawn, lit western skies; to herald the end of an age;
And all, the world's, merchants wept; As Babylon left the stage;
Bathed in the glare, of starfire; scores of cities, pyres in the night;
Her bundles of tares, all burning; cleansed by searing light.
A world they'd raped; yet they could have escaped; if ever they'd read that book;
Instead they stayed; and desperately prayed; as her mighty shield shuddered and shook;
Warding blow after blow; age starting to show ; as vast tremors began to awake;
T'was hotter than hell; when came her death knell; Oceania's stupendous earthquake;
To doom's horrible crack; her shield broke its back; and split in two neath the bay;
While mid thunderous roar; like none heard before; Lalaland drifted away;
As freeing her slaves; she sank neath the waves; an ancient promise fulfilled;
When the harlot at last; paid for her past; and all the blood she had spilled.



"Rose twilight of dawn"

Sounds like a brown dwarf!

Yes, "if ever they'd read that book"

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God

Here is an email I recieved and I wondering what you guys thought.

Do you think this is part and parcel of this

 

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"...The Baileys' reasons for choosing the original name (Lucifer Publishing Company) are not known to us, but we can only surmise that they, like the great teacher H.P. Blavatsky, for whom they had enormous respect, sought to elicit a deeper understanding of the sacrifice made by Lucifer."




From http://www.lucistrust.org/en/arcane_sch ... of_lucifer

here is the email
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Answer 4 – This is an interesting topic. First, your assumption that the WingMakers’ Materials are based on The Urantia Book is not accurate.

Within this galaxy, the cosmology presented in The Urantia Book is considered one of the two best depictions of the structure of the Grand Universe. (The book referred to in the Ancient Arrow Project, Liminal Cosmogony, is considered the other.) It so happens that the WingMakers’ material is not based on this depiction, but rather it is based on the reality of the physical Grand Universe, which happens to coincide with the view held by The Urantia Book. I hold to the opinion that the works of AAB do not compare to The Urantia Book or Liminal Cosmogony in terms of its presentation of the cosmological structure of the physical universe.


Lyricus.org will initially provide discourses and special music selections that can be listened to while reading the discourses. Over time, this website will provide new materials that will include significant excerpts from Liminal Cosmogony as well as new discourses, related music, and various information about the externalization process that Lyricus is involved in relative to humanity.

THE IDENTITY OF LYRICUS
The Lyricus Teaching Order originates in the Central Race of the 7th Superuniverse. Within the Central Race is a sub-race known symbolically as the WingMakers. Within the WingMakers there is a specific order of beings that are collectively known as Lyricus, and it is this group that is responsible for assembling and exporting the knowledge base necessary for a developing species to scientifically prove the existence of soul and establish the science of multidimensional reality as the nucleus knowledge system of the species.

This outcome of evolution is universal and, in the broadest measure, identical for all species that are based on the biogenetic template of the Central Race, known as the 7th Archetype Soul Carrier of the Individuated Consciousness of First Source. It is Lyricus that is responsible for shepherding a developing species to the technological and scientific prowess whereby the soul and the soul carrier are distinguished and acknowledged by the species at large.

THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SPECIES
The Central Race is an ancient race based on the same genetic template as humanoid life elsewhere within the 7th Superuniverse. This template is interconnected and does not relate on an evolutionary scale so much as a density scale. The density of vibration of one planet within the 7th Superuniverse is unique among all other planets, and it is this vibratory condition that prescribes the biogenetic template’s characteristics and thus its propensities and capacities.

http://goldring.wetpaint.com/

http://www.wingmakers.com

http://www.lyricus.org
 




To be honest reading this and viewing the website....... I am confused and the website makes no sense at all.

I know the last rebel will try to impersonate to a major degree the truth and I can tell you that this web does not speak of Jesus nor of the future as we know it and what is to come.

So to me its false information designed for people who are willing to sacrifice themselves in there confusion one step at a time. Exactly how the last rebel works using the truth and twisting it to Sophistry!

Nothing on this website speaks of physical confirmation like 1st Eden.

Nothing, just a run around capitalizing on existent truth with a twist and requiring your personal sovereignty and your soul.

THE IDENTITY OF LYRICUS I reckon that Lucifer disguised.

The Urantia Book has it over this rubbish. There is only one truth and that is the truth of Jesus and his life.

The Lucifer/Last Rebel information will never speak of Judgment, will never speak of the ancient places, will never speak of Wormwood or change nor deep space nor speak about the rebellion in heaven nor about the trial that is to come. This rubbish just avoids all of the truth as you see for yourself.

The future is not nice for people, its lousy for many people and yet this rubbish information speaks of smooth things and material blessings no doubt. All a deception to avoid the real truth and of what is to come. I believe this is how you can tell the Lucifer rubbish in comparison to the real Jesus information which can be physically verified.

The only good future is for those in the family of Jesus and doing the job!

That's it!

Sevens.


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God

Just checkout this Lucifer and Last Rebel Sophistry.

http://www.wingmakers.com/downloads/phil1.pdf

Cant make sense out of, it is not direct and plain speaking. Its all confused and confusing. Not one mention of the Universe Sovereign Jesus and what is to come. Its written by a guy who listens to the last rebel like the book, course of miracles another insidious book written largely by the last rebel which is absolutely confusing.

How can a normal person on the street capture this load of rubbish? Its impossible! This soaphistry will never come into the light of truth and verification.

I just wont/doesn't work and people who follow this are just fooling themselves.

When Wormwood comes this truth will not save people!

Well I know people probably feel the same with the Urantia Book. However, it took me to Eden, twice and verified, not to mention all the other discoveries along the journey. Thats good enough for me! and because I understand the UB, I understand the Bible and all the books of religion so much better. I also love the bible so much better because of the UB.

Sevens


Post Comet Sevenfold NEWSFLASH!!! Comet streaks by Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:03 pm

Ok here is the article but how soon this comet was before we realize it.

 

Quote:

Sky not falling, just passing quite close Monday, 2 March 2009

Ben Sandilands writes:


Check out Ben Sandilands' blog, Plane Talking

An updated ephemeris:- A COSMIC INTRUDER IS INBOUND AND DUE ABOUT 1 AM

An "intruder" asteroid was detected by Australian comet hunter Rob McNaught at an observatory on Siding Spring Mountain on Friday night and will have a close encounter with Earth at about 1am tomorrow.

The object, estimated to be around 35-60 metres at its widest, is similar in size to the dead comet shard that exploded with the force of a large hydrogen bomb (farout!!) over a then largely uninhabited region of central Siberia on 30 June 1908.

This time there will be no collision, but the object catalogued as 2009 DD45 will come as close as around 63,000 kilometres from the earth’s surface somewhere over the Pacific west of Tahiti.

Given the speed, mass and orbit of the object, this is a wafer-thin encounter, and it is locked into a short period earth-crossing orbit which means it will return and be a future danger to the planet. (farout again!)

2009 DD45 will not be visible to the naked eye but should be easily observed by those who know how to use any modest tracking mounted telescope and an updated ephemeris.

It will move rapidly through the constellation Virgo at an apparent rate of about half a lunar diameter (LD) per minute with a visual magnitude of 10 on current estimates.

The intruder is already inside four LD units or lunar earth distances, meaning earth’s gravitational field will substantially modify its future orbits and this bending effect is causing some uncertainty as to its precise trajectory during tomorrow morning’s closest approach. (man O man)

For the astronomers working on the Siding Spring Survey of potentially dangerous near earth objects or NEOs the closeness of the approach will allow more accurate predictions of future visits by this intruder, which is big enough to incinerate a large city if it hits Earth or as is more likely, turns into a Tunguska-like fireball on hitting the atmosphere at a closing velocity of tens of kilometres per second.

The fast detection and observation of 2009 DD45 is a major "trophy" for the Siding Spring Survey which is jointly operated by the Australian National University and the University of Arizona and supported by NASA funding.

Like the much larger earth crossing asteroid Apophis, which will pass even closer to Earth on 13 April 2029, and may then suffer enough gravitational deflection to subsequently collide with us on 13 April 2036, 2009 DD45 is also trophy that will remain at large until humans shift it into a safer orbit, or it runs into us. (whaaaaat!)
 



Well that seems like an EVENT HORIZON 13 April 2036, 2009 DD45

What can I say we know eventually this thing will collide into us.

This why Jesus is our Saviour and these things are becoming rather common.

Sevens


Post Sevenfold NEWSFLASH!!! Comet streaks byTue Mar 03, 2009 1:33 pm

Here are the dates for Easter 12th April 09 -14 April 09

consider the symbolism EVENT HORIZON 13 April 2036, 2009 DD45 the day that Jesus was buried after his crucifixion on the April 13th where he was dead in the tomb. Consider the projected arrival of Apophis?? and the symbolism of Jesus time of death in the tomb?? The next day he arose like the saved ones from the disaster that's to come on the planet.

In the image I have correct the date from the 15th to the 14th of April as the last day of Easter. Interesting a 14. How that number comes up again...Sevens!! also perhaps symbolic of the message of the time in the beforehand. Note the 14th, a date of resurrection and safety before the pending disaster. Perhaps symbolic of some evacuation before a time of this destruction. Who knows, we can only go by our hunches in the paths of realities coming to pass . Maybe as it written in parallel! to the forecast of events coming onto a oneness in times and space and foreseen by the prophets of old. 12th, 13th 14th,

This comet came right on Baruchs 40 day end in the first leg! wow! amazing! That is a fulfillment. Incredible! Who was to know it took me by complete surprise. I wasn't thinking about Burach yesterday nor about the March 2nd on this timeline graph.

Image

With links
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/MagnetarBurach1.htm

Sevens


Post Re: Lulin passes by Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:28 pm

Here is a map of another recent visit in the same regions that I have been observing these Magnetars. Note Lulin cuts right in the middle of Sagittarius, the centre of the Universe and in reflection I see that pointing to our sovereign Jesus.



from

http://www.aerith.net/comet/catalog/2007N3/2007N3.html

and here is another link about Lulin

http://www.aerith.net/comet/catalog/2007N3/2007N3.html

Here are thumbnails of Lulin

Jan. 19, 2009
Michael Jager

Image
http://www.aerith.net/pictures/jager/20 ... _Kopie.jpg

It appears to make it closet approach around the 3, 4, and 5th of January 09

3,4,5 comes up all the time.
Coincidental or what!



The triangle Apex between the 1st Jan 09 and 1st May 09 falls at around the 3rd Month March  09 in the early part perhaps at around the comet passed by confirming Baruchs 40 day period..

Again the 3rd Month comes consistent to the 3rd date I realized the "Light without Heat" Magnetar on Dec 3rd 08..

Also the 11s in the time of Lulin.

Like in the time line graph in the above we can see a 5 month period of separation of equal parts where the apex falls on the 3rd Month, March at the closest approach of Green Lulin. Like the numbers in Jane Leads graph.  March appears to be the apex and the may Apex = very early January.

123 in hearts and 555 in the period of the 5 months forming the Apex in early March the time when the comet passes by 63000 km in the firmament around it forming a triangle. symbolic of the 555 days of equal parts of Lulins closest approach to us beginning on the first of the first month for 5 months finding it closest approach on the 3rd month. For me there seems to be symbolism that does reflect in the timeline graph and Jane Leads symbol.
 

Lulin

 





Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:39 am

I was going through this link on a search on the keyword Mabus and Mahdi

I can across this link and found this piece of research

http://www.mabus.biz/who/index.php

I was looking at the word Mabus thinking what it could it possibly mean . In my contemplation I saw the word Abus within the word Mabus....Abus ABUS or Abbes like in the Shabbes timeline.
The I read the Quatrain in the following and then saw COMET!!!!! Say what ! Comet! not to mention all the other things included.

 

Quote:

The Mabus Files



Who is Mabus?

Mabus is a subject of much debate, hundreds of years ago Nostradamus wrote the below:

Century II, Quatrain 62
Mabusthen will soon die, there will come
Of people and beasts a horrible rout:
Then suddenly one will see vengeance,
Hundred, hand, thirst, hunger when the comet will run.


Since this, there has been much debate on who or what Mabus is.



What a connection!

 

Look at this link and thoughts from this link

http://www.mabus.biz/planetx/index.php

and Note the letter M in the word Mabus Like 2 triangles in the shape of the M each stroke representative of the 4 periods of the Shabbes timeline shape linked to Magnetars and comets of the heavens.

here are more views about Mabus

http://www.hogueprophecy.com/prophecy/saddamhusseinmabus.htm

Just think about this recent comet? and the timing and what it involves?

 

Quote:

Consider the last phrase of the prophecy: "when the comet will pass"--or, "will run." The French word courra also means, "will run quickly."



That's right that comet that appeared on 2ndMarch was discovered only 24 hrs before it ran quickly by us and on time according Baruchs 40 day end.

Quicker than Comet McNaught's.

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:32 pm

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan ... riest.html

   King David of Old in scriptures interestingly was called RUDDY, and so consequently, his promised Son that shall lead us in the End Time, should also be RUDDY.

 

Quote:

1Sa 16:12 And he sent, and brought him in. Now he was RUDDY, and
withal of a beautiful countenance, and goodly to look to. And the
LORD said, Arise, anoint him: for this is he.

1Sa 17:42 And when the Philistine looked about, and saw David, he
disdained him: for he was but a youth, and RUDDY, and of a fair
countenance.

Sgs 5:10 My beloved is white and RUDDY, the chiefest among ten
thousand.

     And amazingly from  http://www.billheidrick.com/works/hgm2/hg0110.htm#111   it states   .........

                            red or ruddy. (also "manly" --- this word is Adonai made substance + ). 111.



and more

 

Quote:

And do, notice that the word, Manly, means the same in Hebrew as RUDDY....and refers to an 'Adonai (God) made substance'. In other words, King David was handsome, ruddy and manly, just as the Lord endued him with these characteristics, as He was a man after the Lord's own heart and 'made in His Handsome Image.' and so must his lineage heir to the Throne of David. (And interestingly is also my MIDDLE NAME.)

Manly = Ruddy = 111 = End Time King David


So in my opinion, from scriptures, our End Time

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/2WitnessesofRevelation.html



Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:12 pm

Check this out from the link

Note how it resembles the local system capital and the tributaries that surround the dark space island of space from where the light without heat magnetar came from.



 

Quote:

Templars, Chartres, and their 2 Prophetic Pillars

The Christian Templars searched and found out the Mysteries, from the Jewish sages, Egyptians, and surrounding cultures, when they went back to Jerusalem to fight for its liberation. And after returning to Europe, the templars built their first Temple at Chartres in France, also known as 'Notre Dame Cathedral ' (Our Lady) It's floor plan design being an esoteric explanation of the 'Mysteries' that they learned and hence it paralleled the 'Tree of Life' blue print of creation. This they were taught from the 'Kabballah' the jewish 'oral tradition as passed along by Moses to his 70 elders.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Lastgathering.html

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:13 pm

I feel the sword of Bozrah is something to do with the Garden of Eden and its revealing in the end times.

 

Quote:

Isa 35:1 The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose. (Yes we shall flee to the wilderness and it shall become a garden of Eden for us and rejoice with us because of the Lord's presense. Joel 2)



http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/SwordoftheLordatBozrah.html

sevens


Post Earth tremor Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:39 am

The few times I go out, I got myself a new computer upgrade after that I met an old friend. I spoke about my research and he discussed Zeitgeist where I gave some input related to this research.


I then went to a friends places and stayed there for a short time and got talking. When suddenly! the whole house shook in a 4.3 Richter scale Earthquake. Apparently the earthquake was centered in the North of the city and traveled to the South and the East. Right through the middle of the city.

This has never occurred before ever in this city on such a scale.


Seconds after the earthquake occurred, I thought instantly of the Shabbes times in relation to where we are at!!!!!!

Everyday seems intriguing! Im thinking the March 2nd 09 Baruchs Comet above us skimming us and now March 6th 09 A never before happened earthquake directly below our city. Wow!

What going eh! is there a response happening here in the Shabbes Timeline????

Sevens

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:04 am tremor

Here is a more accurate article of the recent Earthquake in Melbourne, Sinim.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25150188-661,00.html
 

Quote:

4.6 intensity earthquake felt across Melbourne and Victoria


Staff reporters
March 06, 2009 09:00pm

UPDATE 8.55am: MELBURNIANS may wake to cracked walls after an earthquake hitting 4.6 on the Richter Scale rocked Victoria last night.



It was unreal!

sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:56 am

I updated the Shabbes timeline and all the events.

Image

With links
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/MagnetarBurach1.htm

 

sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:17 am

Here some observations of the time passage of Lulin and how it falls into the the Shabbes timeline and year and including its passage pattern encompassing the year.

Image

Consider the location of Dalamatia City submerged in the Persian Gulf in June 2007. Same consistent prime month.
Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:50 pm

Apparently 3 tremors where felt in Australia on the same day.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/768177/earth-tremor-rocks-melbourne

sevens


Icon 1 posted 03-07-2009 03:25 PM


quote:


quote:
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Originally posted by sevens:
Anyway good luck for the people of the US. I hope they make it through OK.

But I think they have been duped somewhere along the way.


quote:
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The majority of business in the US are honest, hardworking people just like everyone else.
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I have no doubts about that at all.

I just think with Wormwood coming its going to be an outright disaster for the people.

sevens
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You know Seven, I think you're the one destroying the American Economy. You and your UB.

Shame on you.

An old friend said to tell you ahahahahahahaha (is it like morse code?)


ahahahahahahahaha what a laugh, me destroying the ecomomy. ahahahah how is that possible you guys have had thousands of years to work on the "economy". Gee Im only a bloke from bush with a few things to say!

My economy is broke city, I couldnt operate an economy if you paid me. ahahaha


Hey bro,

Ive got an idea for Nikas my Albanian brother why dont we do a movie on this. On the economy buster ahahahahah...just joking.

Why dont we tie in everything into the almighty consummation that derives from all the Atlantis throughout the eons of time and its relevance for today in light of Wormwood.

Why not make it an Albanian/Greek production with help from Hollywood without the crap.

Why not have the biggest message in the world to derive from the Albanian nation for the people of the world. From the most obscure nation on the planet that becomes the foremost nation that everyone least expected.


ahahahahahahahahah that is possible.

Hey Mike bro, all the best for Dr Nikas. yea! I hope he is doing well and I hope you are weathering the economy OK.

sevens
 


Icon 1 posted 03-07-2009 03:42 PM


Mike 1234

Speaking about the economy.

If the Lord of everything, God sees that the economy is destined to ruin man in the long term, the Universe Administrators will correct even to the point of smashing the economy if it means to get the point across especially when man wants to avoid correction.

Man cannot away with it, if his plans are contrary to Paradise. Man has wake up he cant be ravenous dog screwing people just to make money and for what?

sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:42 am

Here is a some UB information on the attitude of the people

http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper149.html#2.%20ATTITUDE%20OF%20THE%20PEOPLE

 

Quote:

When the Creator himself was on earth, incarnated in the likeness of mortal flesh, it was inevitable that some extraordinary things should happen. But you should never approach Jesus through these so-called miraculous occurrences. Learn to approach the miracle through Jesus, but do not make the mistake of approaching Jesus through the miracle. And this admonition is warranted, notwithstanding that Jesus of Nazareth is the only founder of a religion who performed supermaterial acts on earth.

The most astonishing and the most revolutionary feature of Michael's mission on earth was his attitude toward women. In a day and generation when a man was not supposed to salute even his own wife in a public place, Jesus dared to take women along as teachers of the gospel in connection with his third tour of Galilee. And he had the consummate courage to do this in the face of the rabbinic teaching which declared that it was "better that the words of the law should be burned than delivered to women."



and

The fact of religion

http://mercy.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webgli ... e=1827#mfs

also ACME ahahahah is also involved in religion from the UB perspective

http://mercy.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webgli ... ne=128#mfs

I suppose we are like road runners

Sevens


Post Re: The Jubilee Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:02 am

Biblical debt Jubilee?

Sounds good to me

Lets start all over again and get it right this time.

However, it could be only Jesus that will bring in Jubilee. No one on this planet could do this, No one except for Jesus Sovereign our friend and literal Saviour!

sevens


Post Re: Ahmadinejad Iranian scientists develop global economic order Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:24 am

yeah, its the same rhetoric as Hitler

The worst part about it you have the design of the local System Capital in the background and representation of the tree of life below the emblem.

Image

Didn't I mention an Hijack.

I wonder if there economic new world order encompasses Jesus' presentation of his Planetary Government of Mankind made in Lake Urmia 2000 years ago found in the Urantia Book! I doubt as it will be a new order with Shia overtones of imposition.

sevens


Post Re: Global action needed to prevent economic catastrophe Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:09 am

He claims that the high level controllers of our society bring upon disaster in order to enforce new laws to benefit their plans. The great the problem in order to create solution thus duping mankind into forced imposition with new regulation.

The one hand that feeds both sides to maintain division which is one way the world system works throughout the world.

All very nefarious!

My idea is self regulation upon truth within the individual and is guided by that based on the standards of Jesus. That's the only regulation an individual needs in truth!

Sevens


Icon 1 posted 03-11-2009 01:31 PM


That is the wall that your speaking of right!

as spoken by the Urantia Book right

The wall or the natural wall the Urantia Book speaks of and the Wall Robert Sarmast displays.

The natural stone wall you can see for yourself in your face fool, not to mention the other place to the North as spoken about.

Your such a shallow guy with not a scrap of evidence to show for yourself and a crook theory based on a time which is just so recent and has no relevance to the land of the Gods.

A simple read and see exercise for even the dumbest people and still in denial.

stick it where it fits.

Here http://robertsarmast.blogspot.com/

One of your mates in your own self deception and half cocked theories.

sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:19 pm

Hi

This post is not a nice post but it exposes the sophistry of the last rebel. For a Christian the videos are terrible and they are deceptive.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_nwo.htm#Books-Treaties

In this video link beholds much of the sophistry of the last rebel.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_committee300_12.htm

You can see how he twists the truth to suit himself but has no evidence.


Like in this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEq9KPbF ... r_embedded

The Iaesus they speak of is the reflection of Dionysus who was also called Iaesus and who died on a cross. The Orphic mysteries were around for many centuries before Jesus of Nazareth. The last rebel twists this part and doesn't mention the cult mystery of Dionysus or or Iaesus. See how they attempt to twist this truth of another mystery and then triangulate on Jesus and yet they have no evidence. The scroll they read was a reflection of Dionysus which was widespread in India in those times and well before Jesus, the real King and nothing to do with Cleopatra.

The whole video false!

Here is another video regarding Amen.

That the problem the Bible has much legacy of previous religions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1zsFxxz ... r_embedded

Personally, I feel the Urantia Book came to assist the bible to combat this twisting of the truth through discovery and demonstration in our day. Things that can be demonstrated through exploration. This is the only way that this untruth being spread around the world can be defeated.

The bible can not combat all this alone and I believe the Ub came in to assist the Bible in the bringing out of the truth to slay the Last Rebel.

There are too many vulnerabilities in the bible that contains much evolutionary religion before Jesus and the legacy of Egypt that is still contained within the book that does make it vulnerable to all these kinds of attacks where its hard to defend in demonstration.

What happens in the future will be truth. Whatever occurs in the near term will be the truth as it manifests.

This why there is so much combat in truth of today because the stakes are high.

About a week I wrote to the Lucifer publishing house and they still have not responded because they know they can get around the Urantia Book. They are defenseless against it and they are running to the hills in the nefarious rubbish. Already! the signs are there!

They to run like cowards that they are in there deception.

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:36 pm

What's next is perhaps a big persecution of Christianity.

I hope everyone is ready for when that comes.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0310/p09s01-coop.html


This is where the ancient places just shuts the Rebel mouth and those who represent the rebel. The ancient places from the beginning that shuts everyone down as there is only one truth.

That's the purpose of the ancient places to protect and battle against the hypocrisy of the planet and all the lies and twisting of the truth.

I thank God that Robert Sarmast did the expeditions as the truth lays there and is seen and you can read about it and this is all before the persecution. At the end of the day people can see what they are dealing and up against.

The Last Rebel is and will be defeated unreservedly.

Its really important that Christianity face this head on and Christianity is exposed to truth that will take out the Last Rebel. Everything that is revealed Christianity can be used to slay untruth and no body including the Atheist has no chance as demonstrated!

This maybe the reason for the persecution because of the undefeated truth.

Unfortunately, Christianity is vulnerable to many attacks directed at the Bible as we can see with the awful videos that are produced by essentially the minions of the last rebel. But there is a reply that the rebel can not stand and that comes from the beginning. His original home has been exposed and its that truth that will slay him.

The Last Rebel is exposed and Christianity and can all use this information for combat in truth unto judgment. The Rebels fails with this truth and there is a way out for Christianity in truth and expanded truth that can be demonstrated which just flaws all the minions of the last rebel.

He has no reply to the ancient places because its all truth and man knows the truth of the Last Rebel.

Everyone on every level is blinded and deceived in one way or another. The Last Rebel runs rampant on every level but he is restrained by Government and the laws of living . But civilisation will go through a breakdown just by the events and the rebel will be unrestrained. Hence the New World Order attempt by the last rebel.

Actually, everything is a whole set up of the Last Rebel and he is dumping all his people and families he helped in power and he is breaking everything down so he can be the Saviour. He has deceived all those in power who draw from him. The Rug is pulled from all those power people only to set himself up.

In light of this, the only chance the leaders and the minions of the last rebel has is Jesus , he is there only chance to get through this successfully. Even if the people of the rebel repent they have a chance like the robber on the cross.

Jesus is only path of success for the minions of the last rebel! Aside from that it is personality extinction as if you where never born.

At the end the Universal Government of Jesus will be ruthless with untruth!


sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:16 pm

Unfortunately the Money system at the top and the bottom is full of the last rebels minions and society has been lulled into this false sense of security in the money system and the effect of materialism with shallow thinking.

Now the financial system is near broken where fear is rampant and anger abounds it might bring about a breakdown in society. The only one that will stand strong are the ones of faith in Jesus. Because the mind set of the Jesus person is above materialism generally and who also has wisdom given by Jesus our master can feel confident of getting through this.

Gee it didn't take log for the system to break down did it! Only 6 months and it was purely because of the MADOF rip-off who madof with the money along with many bad crooks in sheep clothing driven by commission only. Like that total fool of the Bank of Antigua, what an asssss! that guy was, just an idiota!! The great financial planner eh! all driven by commission. That's why commission on sales can be bad in the money world because they dont care about you only the money they can make in an instant.

I think its better to be small and humble but full of truth than all the rich but poor in spirit.

Look where the poor in spirit lead society. To a total societal disaster which paves the way for the last rebel!

The only thing that will stand up to the last rebel is truth, that's the only thing like from the beginning. The Atheist and the willful minions of the last rebel are completely vulnerable to this truth!   I know this 100% from my experience which can be witnessed.

Even the scientists runs for the hills from truth!


sevens


Post Re: What Next? Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:44 pm

I think you going to find many differences and opinions in doctrine because there is so much division in thoughts in Christianity. Everyone has there own idea upon things and provides no unity but to further division and that is not the spirit of Jesus nor the Holy Spirit.


Well anyway what will happen will happen and that will be the truth in the reality and manifestation!

Sevens


Post Re: What Next?

They way I see it.

How is Jesus going to bring up man into full and completed truth! How can Jesus teach man through faith? if man is in error.

They I see it in a logical form.

Is rapture of the elect in the first instance

Obviously the church left behind, wakes up and repents and fully embraces the truth and lives it.

Then we have the Last Rebel rubbish!

then the final judgment comes along with the major rapture.

Like a Father correcting a Son and I know Jesus is full of mercy and will give a person a chance to correct in truth.

This is only way I see as logical and fits the character of the Jesus.

It no different to a Father correcting a Son in his family with truth and demonstration.

I cannot believe that left behind Christians who embrace the truth and repent and live it in the tribulation will be dumped by Jesus. I dont believe that, I know Jesus is a friend and his heart is open to all that repent and do the will of the Father.

When a son is sorry the Father who has love embraces him. Its Universal fact!

Even in my wayward experiences in life, Jesus never let go of me and always kept me even if I was on the wrong side of the fence. He was always there faithful and I would expect that in the judgment process to.

It just like the Robber on the cross who asked for mercy. Jesus embraced him straightaway. I feel that is a type for the judgment process, that exact thing.


sevens


Post Re: What Next? Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:10 pm

Quote:

There is only one biblical truth on these issues. Not everyone can be right



That's true

But there is so many ideas it can be all confusing for anyone particularly of they are new to the faith.

That's why I say what will happen, happens according to the will of the Father. He can do whatever he wants whether its in the bible or not. No doubt that right is reserved for Father exclusively!

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God

I tend to think there will be 2 rapture process because of the Love of and mercy of Jesus purely.

I also feel that the scenarios seen on the bible are glimpses of each rapture.

I think there will be few in the first rapture but will serve as a witness for the rest and who can research what was happening before the event.

Im sure that's part of the correction and expands to additional truth which can be verified and related to a book written by the Father in Heaven and all participants essentially.

Anyway, I did a search on the 2 raptures and here are some results which I thought was very interesting and the analogies made sense in may cases.

I think the final rapture will be huge! because everything can be verified and proven like what have done so far.

http://www.christianityoasis.com/endtimes/rapture.htm

this makes sense to.

http://www.satansrapture.com/raptureindex.htm

and this one and many more

http://www.secretsofsurvival.com/surviv ... pture.html

and Perry Stone and rapture

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAcRRpr3r30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxUqIZG6i9A

Yep, I found through my own research in my own logic of the 2 raptures, before I came to these sites that the 2 rapture scenario has all the characteristics of Jesus and his extended mercy. One rapture as the witness and the end rapture as the great Ark from judgment.

Thats when all knees will bend for Jesus as they will know that he is the truth and a friend indeed.

sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:56 pm

Here is another video of Perry Stone.

I think he is a great guy and beholds much truth and understanding. He is alright man!

Im impressed with his research on the feasts and particularly this 100 day Shofar and the 10 days where God makes up his mind.

The one hundred days fits the Shabbes timeline in the 3rd and 4th period running through Easter divided by 14 sabbaths running till June 19th 09. The 10 days is difference of Baruch 40 day timeline and the 50 day period. Well that's in my experience but the feasts are absolutely interesting and I see many reflection of aspects of the feasts in this journey, from the beginning which is essentially the resurrection of the truth from ancient times of all the generations of old which matches the resurrection of the dead in the end times.

Like in prophecy, the resurrection of the dead running in parallel with the resurrection of the truth of the past, of their past and what happen including the unfinished business of Paradise.


Manna Fest 364 The Future Hidden in the Fall Feasts 1 of 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxUqIZG6i9A

Like trumpets within trumpets or a construct within a trumpet season.

Also note the feasts of trumpets and the construct?

I feel we are very close to this trumpet period.

Image

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Od5_NHz ... L&index=34


Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:10 am

Here is another video by Perry Stone who also confirms a comet or wormwood and note the passage of current Lulin that does cross Sagittarius, the centre of our Universe.


Fascinating! Would this mean 4 years before a troubles event?

The Apocalyptic Shaken of the Heavens -Perry Stone
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 9405355892

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:51 am

The truth of Islam according to Ernest Moyers of whom I agree with.

Its just a Caligastia sophistry to steer people away from Jesus into murderous acts filled with hatred.

Unacceptable to Paradise.

http://www.world-destiny.org/tocmus.html

http://www.world-destiny.org/musfate2.html



Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:04 am

Some Magnater research

http://www.santafenewmexican.com/HealthandScience/LANL-scientists-seek-magnetars--secrets

I had that hunch to where the power directors in my view weaken Gravity to release light without heat (gamma Rays) or x rays. Whether its x-rays or gamma rays perhaps depends on the Gravity variation which may have something to do with the spin rate perhaps.

Perhaps the magnetars are just storage batteries of a vast variation of many energies that are controlled and released by the variation of Gravity.

Sevens

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:03 am

 

Ancient gates from ancient times and no doubt from the beginning. Equating the ancient Gates to the portal, like the Sevenfold gates of the local universe system and like the gates of all the ancient cities from the beginning. I believe they are representative of the portals of truth and related to Jesus including all the generations of the past or the generations of the dead! That gates of the past are the ancient places part of the resurrection of the Dead and its message.


http://seerofgod.com/archives/86

Sevens


Post Re: Two Rockets fired into Israel, Iran Starts Gas Project!

Unfortunately, there is probably nothing nobody can do as Islam, the complete religion is deceived by the Last Rebel. Its a lost religion of no hope of coming back to the Sovereign of this Universe. There will be an end to the deception.

This is precisely why they resist the investigation of the origins of there book including all the contradictions concerning Jesus not to mention all the confusion and attempts to destroy the ancient evidence of the past. Only a rebel of untruth can and will do that.

Its not a revelation but layer upon layer of other peoples work before and after Mohammed. Its just a compilation of information of previous thoughts mixed with hatred and bias of past times and does attempt to separate man from Jesus through death of the individual. Mohammed may have not had this hatred bias as did his followers after the founder and who added there own version according to their own bias. Its just full of it. A man who speaks of death upon another is a rebel and who lives by violence.

The Rebel has infiltrated the Islam religion and they are deceived completely. Hatred, violence and prejudice is unacceptable in Paradise!

Its just simple as that and will never gain entry into Paradise with an attitude like that.

Christians are not infidels and never will be an infidel according to Jesus Christ, Sovereign of this Universe.

Those motivated by hate and jealousy are guided by the Last Rebel and will die by the way of the Last Rebel.

Essentially, the religion is Anti Civilisation and its through this religion that the Last rebel will be unrestrained as expressed in the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Bible through the edict of death, destruction and violence upon innocent people including imposed erroneous ideas. They even bring calculated death and destruction upon themselves in order to justify there own doctrine in justification. That's how insane the Last rebel is through this religion and the people are all deceived and under the controlled error doctrine, to the extreme which does not exhibit truth, beauty and goodness.

Its a no hope religion where nothing will come to its people through the current deception of violence and cultural separation under the guise of hatred and jealousy including its Anti Jesus the Sovereign message. When Muslims bow to Allah they in actual fact worship Caligastia, the last rebel, it is he that Islam prop up in there worship of him under a great deception.

Sissco, the religion Islam is to far gone for correction in learning new and expanded things. Christianity is in a far better position. They are smarter and more quickened to the true things of the Father by the action of the Holy Spirit.

Already looking forward, Islam as a religion is finished and will not be part of the new world to come guided and headed by Jesus Christ, the Sovereign of our Universe. This is in my report to the Ancients of Days, head of the Sevenfold Seraphic mission planet Urantia.

In tribulation, it may gain some influence but will be desisted at judgment as they will not listen to Paradise and continue to do so. Islam is already a religion of the past and will gain no entry into Paradise through violence, death and destruction including thier terrible imposition upon mankind. Its become a blight to man and civilisation.

However, like the robber on the cross there is a way for the people of Islam to come before the sovereign and repent and the individuals of Islam will be saved. No doubt about that but they must turn from violence and imposition and review all things in truth other wise nothing of Paradise will come to them and the Angels cannot help them in their treacherous paths of deception.

Sikhism of Guru Nanak is far more advanced than Islam and Islam should at least learn something of Sikhism if there is so much bias and hatred towards Christianity. however Christianity as much to expand on to but are in a better position and we know in revelations that Christianity comes into correction to. Where all in the same boat in the learning and understanding.

sevens


Post Re: Two Rockets fired into Israel, Iran Starts Gas Project! Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:47 pm

By the way Siscco

Why the factions of Islamic death and destruction want to have a 2 state reality so they can populate and take over parliament and subject through the numbers.

For them to have their country is a far better option than the 2 state scenario. More problems will come out of that and I know their ultimate motive.

If there is a choice of 2 states or a country let em have a country with their own facilities for there own people.

Having their own country I suppose you would have the country of Palestine and would be the problem with speaking to Iran.

Two countries living side by side isn't that the problem? So have a country what the problem then? or is there another motive behind the resistance of having their own country for the preference of the 2 state scenario with one parliament......another agenda?? Like we see the destructive elements in Lebanon where the country is infiltrated through this method of virtual 2 state within one state and controlled by some religious faction who operate through death squads with overtones of anti civilisation.

You cant fool Paradise! in the ultimate motivation and is recorded before mankind. Everything is under the guise of deception the complete thinking.

Anyway, as far as Im concerned Jerusalem is for the whole world and not for hamas, hezbollah or Iran or even Islam exclusively. The current administration in protecting Jerusalem seems to be quite fine and stabilised and is not extreme and does represent civilisation in that part of world.

Its far better than all these militant soothsayers who are fools essentially and are absolutely very bad leaders for there people. Even I could do a better job and bring peace to the place. ahahahaha even a fisherman could do it.

Its just a big pile of rubbish going on there. A rubbish pile of bad motives and wrong thinking of the lowest levels of mankind.

Hamas is questionable for purposely bringing death and destruction upon there own people and the leaders will be judged accordingly in all there purposes. The Most High is a complete witness to their thinking and political purposes they are a blight to there people.

Hamas is questionable for purposely bringing death and destruction upon there own people and the leaders will be judged accordingly in all there purposes. The Most High is a complete witness to their thinking and political purposes they are a blight to there people. And off course Iran is in the background providing all this terrible advise and who is also judged as delinquent and rogue along with Hamas.

As far as Im concerned Hamas and Iran have already been judged by the Most High for its recent atrocities brought upon there own people with political purpose and willful drive. Judgment is slow to come but when it comes it will be swift and already leaders have been judged!

Because Judgment has been made on these leaders there is a warrant for the spiritual arrest of these leaders in the courts of the Ancient of Days. The courts of the Ancient of Days is the highest courts in the all of the Universes of Space/time. I think its time to spiritually arrest these very bad leaders by issuing warrants for there arrest in the courts of the Ancient of Days of the Universe in the name Jesus the Sovereign.

Its time to reign in these people including the wayward religions and settle it in the courts of the Universe of the Sevenfold! I also spiritually arrest the President of Sudan along with the world court of Justice but I take this prosecution higher to the courts of the Ancient of Days for his removal to.

I take them all to the court of the Ancient of Days and enter my prosecution against all these leaders for there current behaviour towards humanity through death and destruction!

If I see any more atrocities upon families, I going to take the perpetrators to the courts of the Ancient of Days and serve them there spiritual papers of prosecution through the circuits of the Midwayers where they have to lodge a defense before the Ancients of Days. I know there will be justice in the courts of the Ancients of Days where the true justice will be served and where no one can hide.

That's it man, III take the leaders ship of the planet to the Justice courts of the Ancients of Days if I have to in order to get some progression and spiritual progress happening on this planet that is in alignment with the true message of Paradise which is the Jesus, the Sovereign message!

Sevens


Post Re: Two Rockets fired into Israel, Iran Starts Gas Project! Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:01 pm

Yeah and another thing

I prosecute spiritual court papers to the Last Rebel Caligastia to. I take him to court to for his removal off the planet and leave us alone once and for all.

I Sevens lodge a spiritual prosecution upon Caligastia to appear in the Judicial Court of the Ancients of Days on behalf of the Mankind. I issue a warrant for his spiritual arrest from the Office of the Messiahs.

Sevens


Post Re: Two Rockets fired into Israel, Iran Starts Gas Project!

Oh Yeah another one I take Osama Bin Laden to court to I serve him spiritual papers for him to appear spiritually before the court of the Ancients of Days for contribution to the death and destruction wrought about by his abuse of religion and for sending many innocent people to there death though his own selfishness and self glory.

I serve him spiritual papers though the circuits of the Midwayers to appear before the courts of the Sevenfold Universe.

I also spiritually arrest him on behalf of the Office of the Messiah and for his removal for his appearance before the Justice Courts of the Ancients of Days.

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:24 am

Hi I found this link

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7886780711843120756

here

http://robertsarmast.blogspot.com/

All I can say is that we live an interesting world full of all nefarious schemes.

I think about the truth of Jesus and feel peace.

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God

Here is an interesting point about this Easter coming.

Apparently many Jewish people think 2009 is a very important year.

http://www.rapture-soon.net/FAQ/FAQ_Jews_Believe.html

from

http://www.rapture-soon.net/When_Rapture.html

Here is an important fragment.

We are speaking of this Easter coming or the Shabbes timesline in my view.

 

Quote:

April 9th, 2009 (15 Nissan, 5769) - The Jewish Passover (Pesach), the Feast of Unleavened Bread
Passover - Jesus the Passover Lamb, died for our sins. When we put our trust in Him as the Israelites did in Egypt , we are redeemed.

The name "Pesach" comes from the Hebrew root Pei-Samekh-Cheit, meaning to pass through, to pass over, to exempt or to spare.

Unleavened Bread - teaches us to put off the old nature , ruled by sin (Eph. 4:22-25).

Sefirat HaOmer, the first day of the Omer is the night of Thursday April 9, 2009.


This means counting the omer (or Sheaf)
The omer - is a unit of measurement
Counting - is literally counting the days to the final period of harvest - some 50 days later.


The feast was to be celebrated on "the day after the Sabbath..." This is important as this applies to Messiah and resurrection day.
They were to reap the harvest - and then bring "the sheaf of the First Fruits of your harvest to the priest" - notice here it does not say - "a sheaf" but rather - "the sheaf" - it is one marked off as the First Fruits of the harvest. This relates this to Messiah and His resurrection.



This matches the Shabbes timeline.

some 50 days later. and after this Easter like in the time line.

Here is more speculation

 

Quote:

It should be noted that the Rabbis state that the counting of the seven weeks (Omer) is still to be performed even if the waving of the offering cannot take place at the Temple, and there are other things to consider. The actual first fruits Rapture may happen anytime from April 11th through the day of Pentecost, May 31st.

The resurrection of the dead in Christ could be accompanied by a massive earthquake. Earthquakes are connected to resurrections: Jesus in Matthew 27:50-53, and the 2 Witnesses in Revelation 11:11-13. If this pattern holds true, then the resurrection of the dead in Christ will result in an earthquake of catastrophic proportions.

This is independent of what I say! and essentially the same.

Here is another very interesting confirmation..
 

Quote:

Q - What do the Jewish people believe about the end times?

A - Below is what the Jewish people believe and this information is from my friend Rabbi Roy S. Neuberger and used with his permission:
On April 8, 2009, we will recite Birkas ha Chama, the Blessing on the Sun. Our rabbis have instituted this blessing to be said every twenty eight years when the sun returns to the exact position it occupied relative to the earth at the moment of original Creation.

That's not all. Occasionally, a few times throughout history, Birkas ha Chama has fallen on the 14th of Nissan, the day before Passover. One of those times was directly before Yetzias Mitzraim, the Exodus from Egypt.

Another time was directly before the original miracle of Purim. The next time will be ... April 2009!

According to the Kadosh Elyon, the Ostrovster Admor.

1 - This will be the very last time in history that Birkas ha Chama can fall on the day before Passover and that, "shortly afterwards, the Redemption must come." The cosmic event which preceded the two greatest Salvations in the history of the world will take place in 2009!

http://www.rapture-soon.net/FAQ/FAQ_Jews_Believe.html
 

This all confirms my thought, coming to the same junction.

Here is the Shabbes timeline

Image
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/MagnetarSabbath.htm


Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:04 pm

Here is another view of Rapture 2009, this link goes on Bible code matrices.

Also note: The Green Comet, Lulin has just made its closets approach in the timeline.

http://ad2004.com/prophecytruths/Articl ... knows.html

EMP effect at the Rapture? (Pt 1 of 3).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob1GotSU50Y

Here is another video One of a series.

Rapture - Early 2009? (Pt 5 of 6)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOc7PrABAVw

It could very come with an EMP pulse effect quite possible!

Stack up on food, water and electricity and Gas if you intend to stay here. Also a large lead lined box for essential electronics like torches, globes, generators, walkie talkies and so forth.


Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:39 pm

If there is an EMP effect because of the rapture.

May the Father help those left behind in gathering there senses and to survive.

I reckon Perry Stone is pretty right in his research. Rings right to me.

Im thinking of all the people that I know personally and who think Im an idiota and who simply lie in front of my face, no problems because of the work I do. Im thinking about the people who say I cannot help you in their utter selfishness and greed that will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven in that current state. That's the purpose of Rapture and possible EMP effect....to correct man....to take his devices and power away and leave him with the horse and buggy.

Im just thinking about my ex girlfriend from years ago and who Ive mourned over for years in the loss of our relationship and which began many years of depression throughout this work. It was only this work kept me stable and motivated...a life raft...thank the Lord for that!! Praise the Lord where he helped me!!!

6 months ago I bumped into my ex girlfriend on a walk where we talked and again she had no hesitation in just lying to my face again. How unworthy, honestly that I could waste my time thinking about her for all those years! I warned her about this research and where its leading to but obviously she took notice and went along her usuual normal lying and deceiving ways.

I have no doubt that she will be left behind and I know exactly what is in her heart and I know exactly what she will go through including her family. What a correction in truth in rapture and how much fear and regret will she go through during the tribulation and that goes for many people I know thinking Im an horse behind!

This rapture along with the EMP effect is going to be absolutely devastating. The Lord will take the peace of the world away and really correct mankind for his lying ways and arrogance!


The days will be cut short and the Father will come early to this planet and man is going to be awfully corrected and there will desperation, hunger and fear because of no faith and preparation.

People will not expect this and it will come so suddenly and the yet those who know and live the truth will become happier while the world gets more desperate. As far as Im concerned you can cut this planet loose and the children of the last rebel. Currently, it is an ugly planet run by ugly people and who have made ugly people in there Nodite ways. Like the people who have to lie to others continually.

There time will come either way. Either evolve in the true ways of the Father which means being truthful or suffer extinction by the Judgment of the Father. That's the choices! No choice but to be corrected.

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:22 pm

In case of a Rapture/EMP there will be no devices nor manufacturing.

Only things protected in some lead container might exist but generally you would be better buying a horse and feed with seeds to plant.

But then again its pointless suggesting because many people reading this might actually be prepared and wont need this information.

However, what can be done now is help those left behind.

There is no way of convincing any one as many people are to far gone and being left behind is the only option for correction in the attitude.

The best we can do is leave printed information behind now. People left behind then will have something of relevance to read and know what happened in the beforehand to get an understanding of their current circumstance.

This would be in character with Jesus and his personality with mercy. Jesus was man, a true Man and a Father who always gives his Son many chances for correction and will embrace the Son upon repentance. No doubt about that!

This would be in character with Jesus and his personality with mercy. Jesus was man and true Man and Father always gives his Son many chances for correction and will embrace the Son upon repentance. No doubt about that!

So that why I believe there are two raptures one for the witness as a benefit for the left behind a learning rapture and one for the final escape or evac of the corrected and refined.

For the rest remaining after the 2 raptures...Its the law of the Jungle who eat each other up in their ugliness. They end up in personality extinction! That's there only place where all the liars and cheats go and for those who say "I cant help you but they can" and for those who say... "Oh yes" but in their heart its the opposite...for out of fear off course! That's all they know is how to lie and deceive!


Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:45 pm

I think the best thing a Christian can do is print relevant material and get a lead lined box filled with electronics like torches, bulbs, laptop etc for the left behind people.

Inform people no worries but no body is going to believe you.

Life to busy for many in the developed world and people will not take to the time out to explore these things as they develop.

No one is going to believe nothing like this.

After the event people will not realize that people are missing in their own confusion with lack of communication and transport.

Communications will be the Kangaroo method by horse literally at the local trading post where there will be food riots and so forth.

This is where the Last Rebel is loosened!

The best place to be would be a place in the country with a water supply and food growing opportunities.

I would suggest organizing that now with a farmer or something and set up some growing houses. I would suggest growing quick growing crops like barley grass, alfalfa, been shoots or anything that sprouts so this gives sustenance until the main crops are ready for harvesting. I would think about gathering and growing seed with a portion of the crop so it becomes self sustaining.

I would think about Independent Energy generation including Solar energy and protected in a lead lined room in case an EMP comes. I would have all this equipment stored away in protected lead lined area on site and ready to go.

The Christian Churches can already set up these alternatives now for the Congregation and can finance it. I would begin the food storage program and instruction of where to go and meet after this devastation. There is no point staying in your house alone...you will not survive. Its best to be in loving community of Jesus in times of trouble. Prepare a place to meet and survive by growing food and having resource to build a shelter and know how to get there by walking or using as bike. Have maps and practical things ready to go.

This is the purpose of the churches to help prepare for the left behind so they have chance before the 2nd Evac.

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God

Christian Churches I believe you have to get activated now in prepration.

Really! I really sincerely believe this. This should come to the fore in every church and every church should spread the news. Its time to prepare for the left behind and get things organized in setting up mobile communities ...truly! The Churches is there only chance and way for the left behind. A mobile civilisation after the rapture/EMP.

Important things.

Land, water source, energy, material for shelter, cleared area, lead lined storage facilities for electronics and food growing material including seed.

Not Monsanto Seed that wouldn't help you. The original seeds.

I would suggest all the churches to contact the Amish community and learn how to survive of the land using no electronics.

They are the experts in this and they can help teach all the other churches on how to survive living of the land.


Get all kinds of information that is useful and plenty of games to occupy those quiet nights without TV. Real family time.

Churches, form Left behind survival councils now and begin to prepare. No point living in cities as it will be the law of the jungle there. Its better in the country in a self protecting and surviving independent community while the tribulation passes.

But who is going to listen eh! ahahaha Is it all hot air??

 

For me I have to rely on rapture as that's my only chance. I couldn't survive as I have nothing to buy with. Im done for if I am left behind.

So much to do, so little time and the resource of one.

How is it possible to activate the churches in the beforehand based on faith!

All I can do write in the best that I can in the best truth relying in faith in Jesus as my master thinking that he is guiding this pen to the ultimate reality and Im hoping that I am totally right and it helps man to his truth with the Father and makes him totally successfull as a personality at the end of the day and hopefully the Lords Day as foreseen by all the prophets of old. That's all I can do.

That's all I can do and have a good laugh with the Father along the way ahahahahahahah.


Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:39 pm

Im telling you No one will be prepared for this except us.

Its us that is at the vanguard of prophecy.

No one expect this sudden darkness or EMP and the whole world will plunged in darkness.

It will be really bad and everyone will be brought down low because they cannot rely on technology except, the brotherhood within man and physically working together. It will be like in the days of the West and it will be WILD.

The WILD WILD WILD West.

Imagine that suddenly!!!! and done with purpose of the Universal Administration for the correction of man before judgment. Giving man a chance to correct in a severe way so he come to the plate in success of himself in truth with the Father and where man knows who is the Boss of Everything! The Big Boss! comes to town.

Its a real sorting man!

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:44 pm
 

Another thing this 1st Evac will nothing like Wormwood, Nibiru or the destroyer that will come later, it will be totally unique, individual and unexplainable in truth, even though we know the truth of it already now.
 

Be prepared to be thrust back into the 1800s and be prepared to meltdown cars for tools and basic manufacturing like in the early days of the blacksmiths. It will be like until we accelerate things of manufacturing and energy supply which I hope will be through free energy devices.

Have to get the basics of life going. Food, water, shelter, transportation and civilisation a Jesus civilisation hopefully. Im hoping we can kick off with electric motors eventually, perpetual as already demonstrated by a Christian brotherhood I saw on Google.

I must write to them.

With this device of perpetual electric motors you could make chainsaws without fuel just kick of the device and it runs perpetual like in a transport viechle. Should be plenty of junk to go through for these materials to manufacture.

Its Logan Run world I think!


Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God

I think the current speak of Carbon Tax is just another great scam.

People speak of energy production but look how it is possible without all the double speak and hypocrisy

http://x-journals.com/2009/video-900-watt-zero-point-energy-generator-demonstrated/

This is the free energy device that would steer man out of the current crisis regarding energy and the rampant scams of the Last Rebel and his children.

I even think that the global warming is more of an effect of the cycle of the SUN rather than carbon of which the powers to be are using it as an excuse to tax all man in the air that we breathe. There going to make money out of the air we breathe.

That's where it going to.

The above video is just a demonstration of the lies that we fed with and the corruption to exact further power over man.

It will not work especially if the a rapture/EMP comes.

Good on these Christian Brothers...You know they are the brothers that are true and do help man like with these free energy devices, simply made and employed and given out without price and reward. I bless them greatly!

Far from the evil that is rampant today! in all its scams.

I mean why do we have a carbon tax in the first place when we can simply employ devices like this to reduce carbon.

Simple isn't it. Why all this money spend o0n lies when we have to solution in front of us.

Everyone is being scammed with the Global warming thing as Carbon being the problem where as its the sun cycle herald by the sun spots. Anyway, the stats are there but there stats no one sees as the UN are on scam to tax the air expel. That's there agenda. Also Im questionable of this Green Peace thing in light of this technology which Im sure they know about but unfortunately its inconvenient for them.

Just a complete scam wrought on mankind fro another money making adventure by the Nodites in power! Like the Wall street Gang.

I reckon this guy has a few points to make.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261

Do you think Man is honest and loving as to give out freely without price and reward??? Like as in Energy! Far from it Man is just selfish and arrogant!

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:48 am 666

I  was looking at the dates of the the 2 earth tremors the Sevenfold Headquarters experienced.

The first earthquake was March 6th 09

Then 12 days later (note: 2, 6s 6+6=12)

the second earth tremor March 18th 09

Looking at the 18th date of the 3rd, 09

18/6=3 which in turn = 666

Then I thought I would have a look at what 666 means

There appears to be a number of interpretations in the Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast

 

Quote:

The Number of the Beast is a concept from the Book of Revelation of the New Testament of the Christian Bible. The number is 666 in most manuscripts of the New Testament, and in modern translations and critical editions of the Greek text. Although Irenaeus (second century) reported several scribal errors of the number, there is still doubt by some theologians about the original reading, as some recently discovered third century early manuscripts of Revelation read 616. This topic is a source of contention for many church groups and theologians.[1] Some scholars contend that the number 666 is a code for the Roman Emperor Nero,[2][3] others that 616 is a code for the Roman Emperor Caligula.[4]



Amoung many interpretations I thought these were interesting.

 

Quote:

Seventh-day Adventists believe that the "mark of the beast" (but not the number 666) refers to a future, universal, legally enforced Sunday-worship. “Those who reject God’s memorial of creatorship — the Bible Sabbath — choosing to worship and honor Sunday in the full knowledge that it is not God’s appointed day of worship, will receive the ‘mark of the beast.’”[28] "The Sunday Sabbath is purely a child of the Papacy. It is the mark of the beast."[29]

Some fundamentalists believe that the mark of the beast refers to the Catholic practice of making the sign of the cross. [30]

Martin Luther held that the mark of the beast was the tonsured haircut warn by Roman Catholic clergy.[31]

He also wrote in a footnote to Rev 13:15-18: "Spirit means / that it is active / and not a dead image / but that it has its rights and offices in its womb. These are six hundred and sixty and six years. So long the earthly papacy remains." During the Reformation, Martin Luther noted that "Benediktos" added up to 666 in Greek gematria and he thought it might refer to a Pope named Benedict or to Benedictine monks




How interesting, so many thoughts but what does 666 ultimately mean and is 666 something different to the mark of the beast?

There appears to be many ideas out there.

I thought the earth tremors 12 days apart and the multiples of both dates having in common 6 and the 18th date having the 666 characteristic making up the eighteen.

Also note the that was biggest earth tremor from that area in 36 years again another 6x6=36 or multiple of 6!

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25150188-661,00.html

 

Quote:

UPDATE 5.45 pm: RESIDENTS as far north as Bendigo and Seymour felt an earthquake hitting 4.6 on the Richter Scale that rocked Victoria last night.

Millions of Victorians felt the quake just after 9pm, with many waking to cracked walls and broken windows this morning. There was no major damage or injuries reported.

Residents of Korumburra - the South Gippsland town closest to the quake's epicentre - felt as many as five minor aftershocks, with the largest at about 3am.

Rumbles continued into the morning with many residents feeling a jolt at about 10.15am. Geoscience Australia said two of the aftershocks hit 3.1 on the Richter Scale.


The quake was the strongest in 36 years, according to Geoscience Australia.

The last time the earth shook with such force so close to Melbourne was in 1973, when a quake measuring 5 happened at Wonthaggi south-east of Melbourne.
 



Biggest earthquake in 36 years happens on a March 6th day 09 on the 3rd month..... another 3 & 6

Ok here is a KJV search on the mark of the beast

http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=mark+of+the+beast&ver=kjv

I wonder what this means and consider one needs wisdom to interpret this

 

Quote:

Revelation 13:18
Here is wisdom. He that hath understanding, let him count the number of the beast; for it is the number of a man: and his number is Six hundred and sixty and six.



Well its something to do with counting numbers that derives 666 and its related to a man perhaps its time line of events or scenario. Like as this occurs it points to the actual reality oncoming. It couldn't be me as I use 606 as in the Urantia Planet number.

Im thinking after looking at this verse who is the leopard in this day and age?

 

Quote:

Revelation 13:2
And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as [the feet] of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his throne, and great authority.



read the rest

american standard
http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q= ... 13&ver=asv

Also note 42 months is 6 months short of a four year presidential term.

Is this a clue to the current scenario and note: people have given power away overwhelmingly to a man?? who speaks well and looks good!

Remember, even the elect can be and will be sucked in or deceived by this man?


sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:43 am

 

However, there appears to be an anti Christ who will be deceptive and it could be playing out today and the discovery of 666 in the earthquake could be purely a reference to point to that timeline in prophecy.

2 natural earth tremors events that occur in a separated time period that relates to the symbolism of prophecy thus counting and confirming a 666 pheonomena thus pointing to a timeline key point marking the actual scenario as spoken about by the prophets.

Maybe the 666 is not necessarily the number of the man but a reference point in the counting that points to the man spoken of. It points to the scenario and individual as described in the bible in the rest of the chapters. Thinking outside the square.

A 666 earth tremor time marker marked by a symbolic number of days. Surely those earth tremors weren't by accident?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antichrist

It could be that the man of the beast is in power right now and we dont see it. We could be in the scenario right now because of the 666 matrix from a natural earth event in the timing.

Also the person who discovers the right interpretation of this will have Understanding that is representative of the Kingdom of Heaven.

Who has come into power lately where the dragon or Babylon or the world has gladly and with resolve given him everything including power and authority. Who is the leopard?

The Leopard

Quote:

The leopard (IPA /lɛpə(r)d/; Panthera pardus) is a member of the Felidae family and the smallest of the four "big cats" in the genus Panthera; the other three are the tiger, lion and jaguar. Once distributed across southern Asia and Africa, from Korea to South Africa, the leopard's range of distribution has decreased radically over time due to hunting and loss of habitat, and the leopard now chiefly occurs in sub-Saharan Africa. There are fragmented populations in Pakistan, India, Indochina, Malaysia, and China. Due to the loss of range and continual declines in population, the cat has been downgraded to "Near Threatened" species; its numbers are greater than that of the other Panthera species, all of which face more acute conservation concerns.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopard

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:18 am

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616 (number)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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This article concerns the integer. For the year, see 616.
List of numbers — Integers

← 0 100 200 300 400 500 600 700 800 900 →

616
Cardinal Six hundred and sixteen
Ordinal 616th
Factorization
Roman numeral DCXVI
Binary 1001101000
Hexadecimal 268
Base32 J8
Base36 H4

616 ("six hundred and sixteen", or "six hundred sixteen" in American English) is believed by some Christians to have been the original Number of the Beast in the Book of Revelation in the Christian Bible. Different early versions of the Book of Revelation gave different numbers, and 666 had been widely accepted as the original number. In 2005, however, a fragment of papyrus 115 was revealed, containing the earliest known version of that part of the Book of Revelation discussing the Number of the Beast. It gave the number as 616, suggesting that this may have been the original. [1]

In mathematics
616 is a member of the Padovan sequence, coming after 265, 351, 465 (it is the sum of the first two of these). 616 is a polygonal number in four different ways: it is a heptagonal number, as well as 13-, 31- and 104-gonal.

It is also the sum of the squares of the factorials of 2,3,4. ie. (2!)^2 + (3!)^2 + (4!)^2 = 4+36+576=616.
 



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/616_(number)

Looks like both 616 and 666 are triangular numbers what ever that means.

 

Quote:

666 (number)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search
List of numbers — Integers

← 0 100 200 300 400 500 600 700 800 900 →

666
Cardinal Six hundred and sixty-six
Ordinal 666th
Factorization
Greek numeral χξϛʹ
Roman numeral DCLXVI
Chinese numeral 六百六十六
Binary 1010011010
Octal 1232
Hexadecimal 29A
Base12 476, i.e. 04 07 06
Base32 KQ
Base36 II
Base60 11 06

666 is the natural number following 665 and preceding 667. It is also an abundant number. It is the sum of the first 36 natural numbers (i.e. 1 + 2 + 3 + ... + 34 + 35 + 36 = 666), and thus a triangular number. Since 36 is both square and triangular, 666 is the sixth number of the form n2(n2 + 1) / 2 (sequence A037270 in OEIS) and the eighth number of the form n(n + 1)(n2 + n + 2) / 8 (doubly triangular numbers, A002817).

The number of prime numbers up to 666 is 121, the square of the number of prime numbers up to 36.

666 is the 60th 12-factored number; 60 is the first 12-factored number.

666=(36) − (26) + 1; 6=(32) − (22) + 1; 66=(34) − (24) + 1.

666 is the sum of the squares of the first seven prime numbers (i.e. 22 + 32 + 52 + 72 + 112 + 132 + 172 = 666).

The harmonic mean of the decimal digits of 666 is (trivially -- all repdigit natural numbers have this property) an integer: 3/(1/6 + 1/6 + 1/6) = 6, making 666 the 54th number with this property.

In base 10, 666 is a palindromic number, a repdigit and a Smith number. A prime reciprocal magic square based on 1/149 in base 10 has a magic total of 666.

The Roman numeral representation of the number 666 (DCLXVI) uses once each the Roman numeral symbols with values under 1,000, occurring in descending order of their respective values (D = 500, C = 100, L = 50, X = 10, V = 5, I = 1).

666 is a member of the Indices of prime Padovan sequence, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 14, 19, 30, 37, 84, 128, 469, 666, 1262, 1573, 2003, 2210, ... (sequence A112882 in OEIS).


[edit] The Number of the Beast

Main article: Number of the Beast

In the Bible, the Book of Revelation (13:17-18) cryptically asserts 666 to be "the number of a man," associated with the beast, an antagonistic creature that appears briefly about two-thirds into the apocalyptic vision. The calculation of the number was a challenge that has inspired many would-be mystics and prophets ever since.

In modern popular culture, 666 has become one of the most widely recognized symbols for the Antichrist or, alternately, the Devil. Earnest references to 666 occur both among apocalypticist Christian groups and in explicitly anti-Christian subcultures such as that surrounding some heavy metal bands. An appearance of the number 666 in contemporary Western art or literature is more likely than not an intentional reference to this number of the Beast symbolism. Such popular references to 666 are too numerous to list.

It is not uncommon to see the symbolic role of the integer 666 transferred to the digit sequence 6-6-6. Some people take the satanic associations of 666 so seriously that they actively avoid things related to 666 or the digits 6-6-6. This is known as hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia
 



But now there is doubt on the 666 being the mark of the man who represents the beast.

Now 616 comes into play and how does that relate and which is it.

Does 666 mean something entirely different and is this an example of the distortion and abridged sections in revelation over time which is mentioned in the UB. We can see something different to the early scripts to what we have today as in the 666 and 616.

I really dont know what to think now concerning 666 and 616???

sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:53 pm

Personally, I think there are two personalities to watch out for and that is the USA leadership and Osama Bin Laden. Remembering there is a King and a false prophet and it doesn't mean they work together, they could be against each other without realizing they work for the same purpose of the last rebel being totally deceived.

Personally I have nothing against Barak Obama I wish him well but being so young and having so much authority it would be a hard thing to keep in check. I hope he has the wisdom of the Father in his leadership but I still think he could be vulnerable to the Last Rebel. I pray for him and his spiritual protection assuming he is a Christian.

With Osama Bin Laden....I have have a court case against him in the courts of the Ancients of Days. I do object to his use of religion to raise hatred and violence. I believe he is the false prophet and the scribe hiding for his unworthy acts. His acts are not worthy for Paradise and his words fall on deaf ears in Paradise! He has no help from the Angels of the Father nor any recognition from the Sevenfold mission.

He would of been far better doing what I do and spend his million on archaeological discoveries and checking all the books and being honest, sincere and worthy to man. This path would of been better for him rather than all this rubbish of terrorism and false doctrine.

He would of been far better doing what I do and spend his millions on archaeological discoveries and checking all the books and being honest, sincere and worthy to man. This path would of been far better for him rather than all this rubbish of terrorism and false doctrine. He could swung many millions of Muslims to the Urantia Book through his discoveries which he could afford and do. That would of been the right path for him with all the backing of the Father. He could of blended the Urantia Book with the Quran and with the Bible like I do and show the evidence to impress man of the read and see truth and walked away from war.

Now that would be a real prophet in my view and very worthy of backing. But Osama Bin Laden blew it so now Ive got to do it ahahahahahahahahaha what a laugh and I have nothing but I know this journey is rich and leaves a great legacy for mankind in the witness and does have full backing of the Father and Jesus....right on!. But honestly I cant reach the Muslim people in this journey I have tried, that's where Bin Laden could of helped if he used wisdom and selected the right path led by the Sevenfold Seraphic Mission.  But there is no Islamic prophet out their and like in there books the prophet or the Mahdi comes from Christianity but from the expanded view of the bible with the assistance of the Urantia Book.  Without the Urantia Book blended the bible this journey is not possible.

With the president of Iran...well I think he says silly things and is reckless but I feel he can be corrected and deep down I think he thinks about where he is at. Then again, I say silly things to but not to harm man nor to hurt him and not to be exclusive either.

I think it is wrong to pursue Nuclear weapons for a religious government particularly. There is no reason for religion to have Nuclear weapons. Its completely preposterous and insane for religion to have Nuclear weapons!

How could that be of Paradise...Nuclear weapons...Its not possible that Paradise supports this and any violence from a Religious Government breeding contempt to all man in their promulgation. I feel that the Iranian leadership have to correct themselves and moderate and come to the table in peace and no manipulation. All sides have to be honest and realistic of where we they are at in prophecy and work to find the right solutions.

Its best for the whole Iranian leadership and the people to rediscover there origins and find there heritage and bring it out the world in honesty in truthfulness and show more respect to the generation of old and maintain the sites and find the truth of everything.


Unfortunately, man will do what he does best I suppose in this world.


Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:36 pm
 

Well Im contemplating the synchronicity of the current 2 earth tremors 12 days apart in the Land of Sinim literally. For me I think its just fabulous considering the first tremor occurred a day before I was expecting Magnetar. Even though there has been no reports so far I thought the synchronicity of the earth tremors and the calculation of the dates relating to current symbolism carried in the end time scenario was just brilliant. I thought the earth tremors of the Sevenfold Headquarters was rather significant considering the first tremor began 6 days day before the 1st of the 14 Sabbaths/Shabbes began and currently we are in the 14 Shabbes time. The earth tremor signified the beginning of the Shabbes timeline and the confirmation.

Its a timeline where Paradise can do things and have latitude because the heart is right and yet it still led by faith and in faith every step of the way which is the way of Jesus.

Also there was NO destruction to mankind in this event....very classy and displays right time, event which is in perfect timing, synchronized to symbolism and the interpretation of it..... A real ACTION EVENTS eh! ahahahah!

Here is an updated Shabbes event timeline

Image

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/MagnetarBurach1.htm

Here is the 14 Shabbes beginning March 12th 09

The 2nd tremor was on the 18th March 09, 6 days after begins the 1st of the 14th Shabbes', right in the middle of the timeline between the 2 tremors that occurred on the 6th March and the 18th March 09, 6 days apart from each tremor.

Amazing!

all I can say Is WOW!

Image
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/MagnetarSabbath.htm

 

This works in perfect to Burach timing encapsulated in this timeline. Runs perfect with the tremor events. Each time marker is separated by 3, 6 day segments.

Sevens



 

Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:33 am

Here is a video I found on Google about number 616 not 666

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLzZwogRMrM

These verses found in the Quran is real last rebel stuff quite the opposite to the Jesus message.

Here is a balanced view of 616 and 666

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIWJhEgVbbk

Sevens


Icon 1 posted 03-20-2009 04:12 PM


Ahh you guys are just full of your own rubbish and have no idea what you're talking about.

You Jamie and Smiley just talk utter rubbish and have not demonstrated a thing concerning the truth.

You guys are the most hopeless researchers and have not a scrap evidence of anything on any level. Like most of the people here.

Where is any evidence of anything??

You're all cowards and gutless wonders.

Yeah Jamie decided to come out of your hole full of accusation that is just empty of truth because you have not a scrap in all your work.

Actually I think you're an agent of the Last Rebel and Lucifer in my opinion. Always twisting the truth to serve you're own self styled EGO and self pride on nothing and yet in all this time there is no word of your fruitless operation of research just paranoid rubbish, not worth anything.

Sevens


Icon 1 posted 03-20-2009 04:27 PM


Yes Brig.

Thats is truthful, there is no evidence of Robert Sarmast being Anti Semitic.

I know he is not and loves the children of God and fight for them in own way. And he does put his reputation on the line for the truth which does encompass the Children of Israel and the present day Edenites or Adamics...every man...Off course.

Its the fight of Jesus in truth and for his people, all his people including Jamie, Smiley, Brig, Robert and myself.

sevens


Icon 1 posted 03-20-2009 04:40 PM


Jamie, you should be more worried about the wayward doctrines of Islam that will lead to war concerning Israel.

By the way, where is your defense for Israel?? Eh!

I know in this journey to Eden they the Islamist leaders that view this journey do think twice about there terrible actions and it has quelled much violence where even the Leaders of Iran are thinking about there own actions and slowly are changing there attitude.

This journey to Eden has done more for world peace than anything other thing on the planet and the Islamist knows that if he defies the truth behind this journey he is trouble with Paradise and will be isolated from Heavenly guidance. The Angels cannot help those involved in religious violence and those individuals who are disobedient to the desires of Paradise will not make it to Paradise.

By the way all you're prophets of Old saw this Journey and even the individuals are named like they are in the Quran prophecy and even in Sikhism. All the individual's are recognized in the books of all religions even in the cult religion Dionysus.

All this has been demonstrated while you have been on holidays with yourself.

Gee even Space and planet responds to this journey to Eden and all the other ancient places in perfect timing.


Sevens


Icon 1 posted 03-20-2009 04:58 PM


And whats all this rubbish.

" The Protocols of the Elders of Zion " What? what's that? I don't even now know what that is as this journey to the ancient places is on far higher level than all this Lucifer sophistry and just crap.

Were only interested in truth that can be demonstrated physically and in harmonization with all the books of religion and we are also concerned about all the brothers of the world, all mankind and his future because it does not look good at this time. Because there are many idiots out there will spin rubbish that is not proven.

All the other stuff doesn't even come close to high level regions of this journey.

what a laugh ahahahahahahahahahahaha

The only protocol Im familiar with is the protocol of Jesus Christ and the ancient places like Eden.

Praise the Lord in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Thank the Father for Jesus as he is our only chance to get through the end times successfully with out a worry!

Robert Sarmast and myself pledge allegiance to the Messiahs of Israel and of the planet, they are our masters, Jesus and the Melchizedek! No other, it is them that we are dedicated to. We will continue to serve Paradise unto eternity.  There our bosses and friends OK!

Sevens


Icon 1 posted 03-20-2009 05:30 PM


Yeah man, I proclaim Jesus, King of Israel

Hail King Jesus of Israel!!!

Anyone who wants to destroy Israel will have to come against Jesus personally! as he is the King of Israel!

Jesus the King of Israel I like that.


Hail King Jesus, King of Kings, Lord of Lords.
The true King!

Jesus, the King of Israel has a protocol and the Jesus protocol is all concerning the ancient places including all the beginnings and prophecy concerning mankind which entails the judgment of mankind.

There is only one protocol that will be successful and that is the Jesus protocol of the King of Israel!

Sevens


Icon 1 posted 03-20-2009 05:44 PM

So now if Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria and Iran want to destroy Israel and all its inhabitants they will have to deal with King Jesus of Israel personally and being Jesus King of Israel immediately falls under the direct protection of Paradise and King Jesus and the army of the Kingdom of Heaven.

So now divinity takes its place in direct rulership of Israel as King Jesus of Israel and I warn those elements and countries not to attempt to destroy Israel through a nuclear bomb or any other method or they shall be destroyed and WILL NOT make it into Paradise.

Paradise has not forgotten the recent Sin of Iran and Hamas! Risking population with feeble minded political purpose is a Sin.

This is an absolute warning to these wayward elements using the Paradise name in vain for death and destruction. No one will go to to Paradise using this feeble minded method, now, previously or in the future. Warmongers are banned from Paradise if this behavior continues.

And none of this making a enemy, a friend only to betray him and destroy him with his back turned. That will never make into Paradise! That motive is evil and spawned by the Last Rebel and that is a sin, no justification for untruth and lies with deceit at the heart.

Sevens


Icon 1 posted 03-20-2009 06:24 PM


And another thing, I will say is that in Islamic prophecy its written that the Mother of the Mahdi in the end times is named Armina or Ina for short and she is an Abbes like in the Shabbes timeline. Also there is a prophet in the Quran Ibn Abbes who has the same identical message to that in this day. Also according the Sikhism which began through Guru Nanak the last messenger or guy in truth that destroys Koli is born either on the 14th or 15th of May like I am born on the 14/5/61. I suppose its like the double Kingdom of Semah and Denah in St Ephraim of Syria, the double Kingdom that became one and who held the crowns of the beginnings.

There is a great chance that I fulfill these scriptures by birth and was foreseen.

This means is this correct I become the boss of Islam ahahahah what a laugh. Obviously Paradise sees and foresaw this journey as worthy of the Universal Kingdom of Heaven embrace and therefore mentions this in the beforehand of the books.

This means, I become the boss of Islam ahahahah what a laugh. Obviously Paradise sees and foresaw this journey as worthy of the Universal Kingdom of Heaven embrace and therefore mentions this in the beforehand of the books.

Islam, No more terrorism and throw away all this aggressive promulgation as it is evil in the sight of Paradise. Those who live and persist by terrorism and the sword will go the way of the fool and will not enter Paradise.

Sevens


Icon 1 posted 03-20-2009 08:19 PM


Jamie you know and I know that this is all Lucerferian sophistry written emotively and Robert Sarmast highlighted this Lucifer rubbish sophistry. But unfortunately you cant see this and also. Who is the author? and Where does he hail from eh!. Any anti Jewish person could of wrote that and I don't believe the Jewish people are like this.

I think the Melchizedek calling of the Children of Abraham is of a higher nature than this false document that could of been written by anyone but of course people see it as fact because it suits there embedded pride and prejudice.

http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Protocols.in.Modern.English.htm

True to the Melchizedek calling Israel and Jamie should be out there on expeditions to Eden and learn every aspect of this journey of the Most High.

It is for Israel benefit as much as it is for all the nations as it represents the healing of the nations arranged by Jesus himself, the King of Israel and who is listen there. No one because there all thick headed and dumb!


Sevens
 


Icon 1 posted 03-20-2009 09:00 PM
Smiley, just expanded yourself and get over it or move on to another thread and shut up and learn.

Maybe the Georgeous dead end to nowhere threads. I'd prefer that than you being out of the law to the purposes of the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven and Paradise.

If you are not for this journey to the beginnings, you are against it and there is consequence for that as written in the DSC and the Bible.

sevens


Icon 1 posted 03-20-2009 10:32 PM


This might be a nice message of Islam but it is not the religion of peace at this time but a religion of terror.

I appreciate many thing this man says including his desire of the truth for Islam but unfortunately there are many parts of Islam that have been corrupted and infected by the hatred of the Last Rebel

http://www.desivideonetwork.com/view/a3qf85752/islam-exposed-the-true-face-of-islam/

The Quran needs are review and the Rebel infected parts must not be adhered to or even listened to.

Actually, the best thing for Islam to do is swing over to the Urantia Book and learn something that will bring them into Paradise with full backing of the Father.

At the moment Islam is failing and is becoming a religious catastrophe and scourge to the planet by these Jihad no brains terrorists who have no truth in there souls and they cannot demonstrate purity in spirit.

Islam needs a complete renovation and the Urantia Book can help them including proper interpretations of the Bible off course.

At the moment the terrorist way is the way of the fool and will lead to personality extinction!!!!

Sevens


Icon 1 posted 03-20-2009 10:47 PM


Then you have to other side of the fence and consider Hitler murdered many millions of Jews including Stalin before Israel was created.

Seven


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:57 am

Cottonwood 'meteorite' mystery continues

http://www.redding.com/news/2009/mar/13/cottonwood-meteorite-mystery-continues/

Friday, March 13, 2009


 

Quote:

Normally, trading a 1999 Oldsmobile Bravada in good condition for a 1995 Isuzu Trooper with a bashed-in window wouldn't be a good deal.

But this isn't any regular Isuzu, says Roy Howard, 60, of Anderson, who made the swap.

It's the Trooper that took a hit from something that possibly fell from the sky late last month as it sat in a Cottonwood driveway. Howard says he wants to preserve the sport utility vehicle until scientists determine what it was that hit it.

"To me, it's worth more not fixed," Howard said.

The SUV had belonged to Linda Lang, 46. She and her boyfriend, Richard Orsot, 61, were awakened at 4 a.m. Feb. 26 by a big boom on Frances Street. Shasta County sheriff's deputies who scoured the neighborhood in response to a series of 911 calls reporting the noise found the only damage to be to Lang's Trooper.

Something smashed through the windshield, deeply denting the dashboard and apparently melting part of the glass, said Mike Birondo, a fire investigator with the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection. The largest piece of strange debris found in the car, about the size of a golf ball, has been sent to the state Department of Justice Laboratory in Chico for tests.

Birondo said it appears that whatever caused the damage came from the sky, perhaps a piece of space junk or meteorite.

A New York man who has been involved with a meteorite collection for 20 years and heard of the Cottonwood object Thursday said he thinks it's a "meteorwrong," or not a meteorite.

A newly fallen meteorite doesn't have sharp edges, resemble metal or emit enough heat to melt anything or cause it to change color, said Darryl Pitt, curator of the Macovich Collection.

"It doesn't have the power to melt or change what it's hitting," Pitt said. "It can smash the hell out of it, but it won't change it."

The pieces recovered from Lang's SUV were black and gray with jagged edges.

The Macovich Collection is one of the largest private meteorite collections in the world, with artifacts on display at museums around the globe.

Pitt recently made news himself when he offered $10,000 to the first person to turn in more than a kilogram of a meteorite that reportedly came down early last month on Rockland, N.Y..

While Pitt said he's convinced the Cottonwood object is not a meteorite, Howard said he won't know for sure until scientists familiar with the extraterrestrial objects have a look at it. That's why he's had Orsot ask for the pieces back and the two plan to send them to the Arizona State University Center for Meteorite Studies.

Howard wasn't the only one to offer help to Lang with her SUV, which was the couple's only form of transportation. Mike Hubert of Mike's Body Shop in Anderson and Missy Patton of Platinum Auto Glass in Redding both offered Thursday to fix her car for free.

A lifelong rock hound, Howard said he became interested in meteorites when one fell near Whiskeytown on Jan. 14, 2001. Since then he's gone out in a helicopter four times searching for what he said should be a meteorite about half the size of a Volkswagen Beetle.

"I'm still looking for it," he said.

Reporter Dylan Darling can be reached at 225-8266 or ­ddarling@redding.com.



sevens


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Well the current human is just a lousy witness to the truth.

Man is generally is full of crap man. Full of lies and deceit for his own lusts of selfishness.

Just look around man.

There is a divine judgment coming and then we will see man in his fear knowing he is guilty of these things and in these days man continues in this path. The whole world is full of this last rebel rubbish that I am totally sick of and so is the Universe including the Judgment seat.

Whether we agree or not Judgment of mankind is attached to Eden of Cyprus and that is in all the books of religion so be prepared in your heart because everything is going to slice man in his heart, in truth as it happens.

Its a warning based on faith and manifestation. Its a warning for every man to prepare his soul for the review of the Justice courts of the Ancient of Days.

I say all this as Im concerned for the people here. I'm not against anyone here I want them to be utterly successful...off course why not!

I believe there will be 2 raptures, the first being the confirmation of the witness and the second right before judgment.

When the first rapture comes there maybe a EMP effect which brings the world into darkness. Then the fat lady sings and then people realize and the devastation that man will feel and it will be terrible but there is a way out and that is related to the ancient places and all the books of religion. This will lead, in preparation for the final and last Evac train out of the station. Like "The last train out of Sydney"

If there is an EMP effect it will derive from the Magnetar broadcast system, that's where the noise emanates from including the knock out blow to all electrics. By the way if you had a inserted rebel chip that will burn inside of you to.

We all have to be prepared and attuned.

Atlantis is not a easy walk in the park. Atlantis is a viechle that deals with the Soul of man. Atlantis being of the Gods, so to speak where the Gods are only interested in the Soul of man and his success. Its an actual living legend which will manifest in truth as in a great big reality check for man to ensure his success. Its part of the correction of man.

Anyway it all in the books and the books are judging mankind in his behavior. Blame the Books and God, I only write for the Universe administration.

If you have something against this I would suggest you lodge a complaint in the justice courts of the Ancients of Days.


Consider the demise of Atlantis was the degradation of the Soul of Man and precisely with what Atlantis deals with today.... the soul of mankind in order  to rectify what went astray eons ago and that does includes judgment.

And by the way the Universe and the Judgment seat only recognize the Living truth of Jesus who is literally our Saviour. He is the only door of success through this terrible time man will go through. There is no other door that the Universe Recognize as worthy.

All the Lucifer last rebel inspired channels of untruth will go by the way of the fool and will be like chaff in the wind in the sorting and review.

No Lucifer Sophistry is going to save your arse NO WAY possible! That is a dead end and I know the UN embrace this Lucifer sophistry that will fail them.

All these so called ascended masters representatives of the Last Rebel or the Last Rebel himself in deceit will not help you at all. All that will fail you in truth, all that is just deceit from the last rebel deceiving mankind.

sevens


Icon 1 posted 03-21-2009 09:50 PM


I agree with that Brig even though I was was unaware of the details behind the protocols as you raised. I like cannot believe the Jewish people are like that and I also believe you that it was written by the Czarist Russian police who had motive against the Jewish people like those who proclaim this rubbish to better there own agenda, like Iran in there anti Jewish sentiment filled with propaganda and hatred...terrible international attitude for a country.

I sounds right what you say.

Sarmast does NOT believe in this protocol in his blog, he noted the kind of mischief that goes on in the world between the forces of truth and untruth. He does agree, like yourself believes it is all propaganda like I do.

That document is totally evil!

sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:56 am

Hi

I have been watching Perry Stone lately as you probably realize and I think Perry Stone has some good insight I like the way he researches and expresses himself.


You guys might have a different idea about him, no worries but I dont mind him and he does fight for Jesus like us all.

I noticed this article from Him and I know that these rods or seraphim's can transmutate themselves in flying rods.

http://www.voe.org/index.php?option=com ... gory&id=78

Here is

Perry Stones article about what was seen in the video tape

 

Quote:

The Bizarre Mystery of the "Flying Rods"

What I am about to share with you is just plain weird. My television producer, Charlie Ellis had heard about these mysterious objects and had visited an internet site years ago watching video tapes that had captured them. But when Charlie called me into the television studio and asked me to sit down, I was unprepared for what I saw on the television monitor.

I have been taping video in Israel since the mid 1980’s and had never seen one of these objects, either in person or on video. In fact they are so fast that they never appear to the naked eye, only on video tape. Charlie has been taping footage for over fourteen years and he too has never seen one of these mysterious objects. They are simply called “flying rods.”

We were taping for a Manna-Fest telecast this year while overlooking the Sea of Galilee. I can tell you there were a few birds flying around, and these birds can be plainly seen on the video and identified as birds. However, when Charlie began to tape the sea for “cut away” footage, he returned home to see an object shoot across the screen so fast he could not tell what it was. When he slowed the picture to 6 frames, you can clearly see a “flying rod.” Because our camera equipment is high-definition, the imagery is very clear. The rod is coming from the ground and moving from the bottom left to the top right hand corner of the screen. The rod appears as a long round tube, with a smoky-grey color and even appears to have small fin like features on the top and bottom.

As if the appearance of this strange object was not enough, in a later portion of the same tape, another rod appears. This one begins toward the ground, on the bottom left side of the screen and arches over and returns to the earth just on the edge of the sea.

Now, if these so-called rods were caused by light, or were a common occurrence then why have we never before seen one after capturing literally hundreds of video tape recordings from the Holy Land in the last twenty years? There are internet sites dedicated to studying these phenomena. The explanations are numerous: a particular refraction of light on the camera lens, a flying fish or a sky creature that is invisible to the naked eye because it moves so quickly. Then of course there is the old faithful explanation of anything that flies in the heaven that can’t be identified: it’s a UFO!

When you see something this strange and bizarre, your imagination begins to kick in. Is it something out of the spirit world that is invisible to the human eye but visible on camera, similar to the angel that was captured at the hospital in Charlotte, NC? A little girl was in critical condition but after the visitation of something that looked like an angel, she began recovering. Can I explain this? No. One person said, “When a person dies their spirit leaves their body and either goes up to God or down into Sheol. Since one was going up and the other arched down, could it be the spirits of two people who died in Israel while you were taping?” I don’t think so. I just think the whole thing is a mystery and is just plain weird. I told some of my workers that I would like to conclude a Manna-Fest program and show people the tape because it is very unusual. I am sure the Christian blogs would have a heyday with it. One staff member responded, “Please don’t do it. Every kook in the nation who believes in aliens will be ringing the phone off the hook!”

So I guess the flying rods will remain a mystery. If we are ever in Israel and return home to edit tapes and we see a full-color three dimensional angel of the Lord that was not visible to the naked eye, you can be sure we will show it on the program. Of course some people would accuse one of trick photography. But there again, some people wouldn’t believe in hell even if a dead person came back and warned them of the place (see Luke 16).
Perry Stone, Jr.



Here is the Urantia link that describes this transmutation of the Seraphim which fits what Perry Stone saw and cionsider the Seraphim does transport the soul of a person to Heaven through the Seraphim.

 

Quote:

When celestial beings are to be enseraphimed for transfer from one world to another, they are brought to the headquarters of the sphere and, after due registry, are inducted into the transit sleep. Meantime, the transport seraphim moves into a horizontal position immediately above the universe energy pole of the planet. While the energy shields are wide open, the sleeping personality is skillfully deposited, by the officiating seraphic assistants, directly on top of the transport angel. Then both the upper and lower pairs of shields are carefully closed and adjusted.

And now, under the influence of the transformers and the transmitters, a strange metamorphosis begins as the seraphim is made ready to swing into the energy currents of the universe circuits. To outward appearance the seraphim grows pointed at both extremities and becomes so enshrouded in a queer light of amber hue that very soon it is impossible to distinguish the enseraphimed personality. When all is in readiness for departure, the chief of transport makes the proper inspection of the carriage of life, carries out the routine tests to ascertain whether or not the angel is properly encircuited, and then announces that the traveler is properly enseraphimed, that the energies are adjusted, that the angel is insulated, and that everything is in readiness for the departing flash.
 



http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimp ... ne=179#mfs


I think its a match of what Perry Stone saw in the video and the Urantia Book.

Sevens


 


 Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:56 am

Hi

I have been watching Perry Stone lately as you probably realize and I think Perry Stone has some good insight I like the way he researches and expresses himself.


You guys might have a different idea about him, no worries but I dont mind him and he does fight for Jesus like us all.

I noticed this article from Him and I know that these rods or seraphim's can transmutate themselves in flying rods.

http://www.voe.org/index.php?option=com ... gory&id=78

Here is

Perry Stones article about what was seen in the video tape

 

Quote:

The Bizarre Mystery of the "Flying Rods"

What I am about to share with you is just plain weird. My television producer, Charlie Ellis had heard about these mysterious objects and had visited an internet site years ago watching video tapes that had captured them. But when Charlie called me into the television studio and asked me to sit down, I was unprepared for what I saw on the television monitor.

I have been taping video in Israel since the mid 1980’s and had never seen one of these objects, either in person or on video. In fact they are so fast that they never appear to the naked eye, only on video tape. Charlie has been taping footage for over fourteen years and he too has never seen one of these mysterious objects. They are simply called “flying rods.”

We were taping for a Manna-Fest telecast this year while overlooking the Sea of Galilee. I can tell you there were a few birds flying around, and these birds can be plainly seen on the video and identified as birds. However, when Charlie began to tape the sea for “cut away” footage, he returned home to see an object shoot across the screen so fast he could not tell what it was. When he slowed the picture to 6 frames, you can clearly see a “flying rod.” Because our camera equipment is high-definition, the imagery is very clear. The rod is coming from the ground and moving from the bottom left to the top right hand corner of the screen. The rod appears as a long round tube, with a smoky-grey color and even appears to have small fin like features on the top and bottom.

As if the appearance of this strange object was not enough, in a later portion of the same tape, another rod appears. This one begins toward the ground, on the bottom left side of the screen and arches over and returns to the earth just on the edge of the sea.

Now, if these so-called rods were caused by light, or were a common occurrence then why have we never before seen one after capturing literally hundreds of video tape recordings from the Holy Land in the last twenty years? There are internet sites dedicated to studying these phenomena. The explanations are numerous: a particular refraction of light on the camera lens, a flying fish or a sky creature that is invisible to the naked eye because it moves so quickly. Then of course there is the old faithful explanation of anything that flies in the heaven that can’t be identified: it’s a UFO!

When you see something this strange and bizarre, your imagination begins to kick in. Is it something out of the spirit world that is invisible to the human eye but visible on camera, similar to the angel that was captured at the hospital in Charlotte, NC? A little girl was in critical condition but after the visitation of something that looked like an angel, she began recovering. Can I explain this? No. One person said, “When a person dies their spirit leaves their body and either goes up to God or down into Sheol. Since one was going up and the other arched down, could it be the spirits of two people who died in Israel while you were taping?” I don’t think so. I just think the whole thing is a mystery and is just plain weird. I told some of my workers that I would like to conclude a Manna-Fest program and show people the tape because it is very unusual. I am sure the Christian blogs would have a heyday with it. One staff member responded, “Please don’t do it. Every kook in the nation who believes in aliens will be ringing the phone off the hook!”

So I guess the flying rods will remain a mystery. If we are ever in Israel and return home to edit tapes and we see a full-color three dimensional angel of the Lord that was not visible to the naked eye, you can be sure we will show it on the program. Of course some people would accuse one of trick photography. But there again, some people wouldn’t believe in hell even if a dead person came back and warned them of the place (see Luke 16).
Perry Stone, Jr.



Here is the Urantia link that describes this transmutation of the Seraphim which fits what Perry Stone saw and cionsider the Seraphim does transport the soul of a person to Heaven through the Seraphim.

 

Quote:

When celestial beings are to be enseraphimed for transfer from one world to another, they are brought to the headquarters of the sphere and, after due registry, are inducted into the transit sleep. Meantime, the transport seraphim moves into a horizontal position immediately above the universe energy pole of the planet. While the energy shields are wide open, the sleeping personality is skillfully deposited, by the officiating seraphic assistants, directly on top of the transport angel. Then both the upper and lower pairs of shields are carefully closed and adjusted.

And now, under the influence of the transformers and the transmitters, a strange metamorphosis begins as the seraphim is made ready to swing into the energy currents of the universe circuits. To outward appearance the seraphim grows pointed at both extremities and becomes so enshrouded in a queer light of amber hue that very soon it is impossible to distinguish the enseraphimed personality. When all is in readiness for departure, the chief of transport makes the proper inspection of the carriage of life, carries out the routine tests to ascertain whether or not the angel is properly encircuited, and then announces that the traveler is properly enseraphimed, that the energies are adjusted, that the angel is insulated, and that everything is in readiness for the departing flash.
 



http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimp ... ne=179#mfs


I think its a match of what Perry Stone saw in the video and what is mentioned in the Urantia Book.

Sevens

 


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:48 pm

You know I really like Perry Stone.

I think he represents the real truth about the end times.

I think he is absolutely right and he does confirm my own thoughts and hunches about the end times.

More than anyone these days I would believe him about the end times.

The Harvest is the End of the Age
mms://media.winworld.com/voe/mannafest440.wmv

from http://www.voe.org/index.php?option=com ... &Itemid=52

Praise the Lord for Perry Stone and for his Family for his great truth and research.

He really does confirm the 2 stage rapture process, the first as the confirmation of the witness and the second as the ark of the Judgment of which the witness of the covenant is the confirmation of the witness in the beforehand. Because Jesus is our literal Saviour he is merciful to the repentant and the Father backs him fully on this. Also the Sophistry these days speaks of the Christ's and that is Sophistry that drives the UN that I believe Jesus is referring to the Last Rebel doctrines that also use "the Christ" leaving out all details of Jesus off course. This Balatvsky or Alice Bailey sophistry will not save you.

In this video he confirms that the message 0of the end times comes from the beginning, the ancient places and everything concerning the unfinished business of the past.

Barak - A Battle in Israel and the Armageddon Factor
mms://media.winworld.com/voe/MF437streamingcc.wmv

Here is another video and note the things that begin in May??

Stunning Prophetic Patterns Occurring Now
mms://media.winworld.com/voe/mannafest438.wmv


Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:02 am

Here is another set of video that are just amazing and fantastic
.
Blood Moons Mark Blitz part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIXCQptveb4&feature=related

and
Decoding the Past: Doomsday 2012 Part 1/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYZtMwIP ... re=related

and

Here is another video

Decoding the Past - Secrets of the Quran (Part 1/2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ0kMTMo ... re=related

The second part
Decoding the Past - Secrets of the Quran (Part 2/2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ0kMTMo ... re=related

and note the technique of which the so called Quran came in, through a channel technique. Also note the physical oppresssion/imposition of the induvidual and the all the various trances and convulsions the person went through. This is not from Gabriel, any Angels of the Lord does not need to opress a man to get a point across.

This sounds identical to how the Book of Miracles came in. In the same oppressive technique.

Im sorry to be skeptical but I know that these techniques are those of the last rebel. I know from my witness in working the Father in the journey to the ancient places that this does not happen in the Sevenfold Seraphic mission, its a journey based on faith, discovery and realisation of the truth. A journey that is normal and comes from the heart with no physical effect except for joy and happiness in the discovery and realisation of the Jesus as the one and only truth that the Universe Government recognise.

I am deeply suspicious of the technique of which the Quran came in and it seemed like an imposition of the Last RebeI doubt it was Gabriel and certainly doubt the motives of the later Suras being contaminated by the pride and prejudice of men in those days in those regions.

Please note: that last Rebel desires to be God of all and desires the worship of man and his message would contain precisely that desire as expressed. See the Father already spoke through Jesus and the Jesus of Nazereth Mission or Ministry is not over yet and yet the entity channelling the Quran desires to by pass Jesus, the Sovereign and actually becomes detached of Jesus. Thats is not of the Universal order as I know it!

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:30 am

Banned From the Bible I - The History Channel (1 of 12)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EPOsTVjWlE&feature=related

and

The Qabalah Codex Video (Full version)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6kkd4i4gEM&feature=related

Interesting triangular patterns that resemble the tree of life and the Local System Headquarters Grid and they are related directly.

The following video describes the Internment satellites of the Local System Capital Grid. This is where Lucifer, Satan and the fallen angels are held until the adjudication is completed by the Ancients of Days.

This description found in Enoch also fits the Urantia Book description of the Universal Jail.

The Black Hole In The Book of Enoch 2/5 (Cern, Large Hadron Collider, Black Holes and Revelations)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmzjm_9b ... re=related

In the 3rd Video note the constant references to the Beginning. I view this as the all the beginning places being the last message of God before the Judgment process.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrdpNgXo ... re=related


sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God blackout Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:04 pm

I just got back

One the way back I stopped at a roadhouse and ordered an hamburger when I noticed this article in today's newspaper.

Massive power blackout brings Sydney to its kneeshttp://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,25266120-5001021,00.html

 

Quote:


By Joe Hildebrand and Xanthe Kleinig

March 31, 2009 12:00am

A SINGLE 132,000 volt electricity cable running from Lane Cove, along the bottom of Sydney Harbour and into a substation in the north CBD, caused a chaotic blackout across the city yesterday.

At 4.45pm more than 70,000 homes and businesses from Annandale to Coogee and Rose Bay were blacked out.

It was unknown last night exactly what caused the malfunction but most cable outages are a result of contractors severing them while digging underground.

Gallery
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/gallery/0,22056,5038226-5010140,00.html

Yesterday's incident was serious enough to trigger an emergency "trip" that shut down all three other cables that ran alongside it.

Normally at least one of the cables would be kept functioning as a back-up supply, but the fault was so severe it tripped that too, cutting off all electricity supply.

John Rolfe: Who has the power during blackouts

Once the electronic signal of the malfunction hit the north CBD substation it caused a tsunami effect that sent ripples out through the network and shut down a second substation in Surry Hills.

The end result was that a quarter of the CBD lost power as well as Eastern Suburbs, including Woolloomooloo, Darlinghurst, Paddington, Surry Hills, Redfern, Waterloo, Rose Bay, Kingsford, Randwick, Coogee, Bondi, Tamarama, Rose Bay and Bellevue Hill, as well as Annandale.

Up to 100 sets of traffic lights in the CBD and the inner east were also blacked out.

Editorial: A return to the dark ages
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,25265166-5001030,00.html

EnergyAustralia was unable to restore power until it had determined which of the four cables had the fault, before isolating it from the network.


The power failure forced the closure of the Harbour Tunnel and Eastern Distributor, adding to the chaos on the city's streets. There were serious questions about why the city's police early-warning system, designed to move people out of the city in a major emergency, apparently failed to kick in.

Police Deputy Commissioner Dave Owens defended the decision not to activate the emergency warning system, saying that an SMS alert system had been used instead.

But it was unclear how many people received this or how effective it was.

"With the Sydney alert it's definitely from the speaker system that's in place," he told radio 2GB. "I made the decision not to use that but to use the Sydney alert which is the SMS system."

A NSW Fire Brigades spokesman described the situation as "bedlam".

"We've had multiple lift rescues in the city and in Darlinghurst and Redfern," the spokesman said last night.

One person was rescued from a lift at Swire House in Spring St after being trapped for an hour and 15 minutes.

Power was almost completely restored by 6.40pm, but not before the city had gone into peak-hour meltdown.

The blackout was a disaster for city businesses forced to close their doors ahead of the evening trade.

Myer closed its Pitt St Mall entrance but David Jones continued to trade. City clocks froze showing the time at 4.40pm.

Parliament House was also cut off, with reports of MPs and political staffers stuck in lifts at Parliament as well as up to 30 other buildings across the CBD.

The Australian Defence Force base at Garden Island was plunged into darkness.

Trains were still running off their own power supply, however, buses faced major delays because of the traffic problems.

One security guard told of dozens of cars stuck inside buildings.

"It's frustrating. Everyone's finished work and they want to go home," he said.

More than 90 minutes after the city centre lost power, NSW Police said they were still considering whether to use their multi-million dollar warning system.

City office blocks and Eastern Suburbs residents reported having their power returned from 6.25pm.

The Lane Cove cable fault is believed to have tripped the rest of the network, which in turn managed to short circuit two key substations.

"These are major power cables - they're 132,000-volt cables and they supply two major sub-stations in the CBD," an EnergyAustralia spokesman said last night.

"It's affecting supply to a major portion of the northern part of the city and it's also affecting pockets around the central and eastern part of the CBD.".



http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/s ... 21,00.html

This occurred on March 30th 09

Interesting to say the least particularly in ight of the recent posts about what would happen if a Rapture/EMP would occur.

Is this a sign?? of the witness.

I was driving out of Casino heading for Trenterfield at the time and I was thinking about the Rapture/EMP along the way mixed with many other thoughts not knowing this only to find it later during the same trip in the News. I was thinking when and what regarding timing?

When I read the news article I was astonished and knew I had to look into this when I got home. As I read the article I was thinking what would it be like if a real EMP/Rapture occurred where everything went down???

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,25265166-5001030,00.html

A return to the dark ages
 

Quote:

SYDNEY last evening entered the Third World. Some time before 5pm, power to much of the central business district and several inner suburbs was completely cut.

On top of the usual traffic snarls, public transport delays and general big-city mayhem, thousands of people found themselves stumbling around in suddenly darkened offices.

The first 15 minutes or so were a novelty. But the outage just stayed out, for 30 minutes. Then 45. Then the whole hour and far beyond, with no light in sight.

Once outside, the news wasn't a great deal better. Several areas were without traffic lights. The sound of emergency sirens began to swirl about the city as potential traffic gridlock beckoned.

Some office workers were caught in lifts. Others were unable to access cars locked away in electronically-secured parking.

And still the power was off, coming up to 90 minutes. During Sydney's peak hour.

If ever a reminder was needed of how vulnerable is this city - in fact, how vulnerable are all modern cities - to power shortages, this was it.

In an economy based largely on electronic transmission of data, yesterday's outage would have been hellishly expensive, too.

The inquiry into this debacle will be fascinating. Let's hope the power stays on when it gets under way.

Old remedies

OLD ideas are sometimes the best. That's the conclusion reached in regards to our health system, which over the next four years will embark on a renewal of past practices.

Many of these moves are simply common sense. Returning nurses to what they do best - nursing, instead of paperwork - is one obvious example.

In all, some 134 similar recommendations of the Garling Report, from a total of 139, will be implemented.

At least, that's the plan. An old-fashioned problem for these old-fashioned reforms may yet intervene.

Fixing mistakes and righting policy wrongs costs money. Those recommendations are estimated to cost about $500 million.

This state simply does not have the cash to improve the health of our hospitals.

Old ideas like staying within budget and not blowing all your reserves have been out of currency in recent years.

Now we're finding out just how good some of those old ideas were.

Skinny escape

IF you thought Sydney's two hours of no power last evening was tough, be thankful the city avoided an even worse fate.

We could have faced the terror of a giant exploding pumpkin.

A massive pumpkin threatened to detonate before its exhibition at the Royal Easter Show, due to huge pumpkin gases building to terrifying levels inside its colossal pumpkin skin. Crisis dodged.

at about 3pm as I was driving I noticed this beautiful wily wily right next to the Viechle. Before I noticed the wily wily. At an 80 degrees as I looked up I noticed a faint spout in the sky with a hint of brown dust being lifted in the air. Although, I had to look twice, those fishing eyes recognized the signs and it lead to this beautiful twirling spout of dust right next to the highway. In reflection of that event I think of the scriptures as being lifted in the air in rapture and described in the Urantia Book and as mentioned in the bible.



Sevens

Note on the April 4th 09 there is another synchronized blackout due to unknown reasons.

 


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:02 pm

In summary

On March 6th 09,We witness the first earthquake, 6 days later, March 12th the Shabbes timeline begins, 6 days later the Second Earth quake occurs from the same place, 6 days later, 24th March 09 Mankind organizes his own lights out http://news.cnet.com/earth-hour-save-a-watt-and-maybe-the-earth/, then 6 Days later the Kingdom of Heaven organizes its own Lights out on Sydney that cannot be explained.

What's up uh! in the timing and even replication?

Is this a sign and alignment to the recent posts and videos??

Sevens

 

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Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:12 pm

This is what I mean
bt Local System Headquarters

The Urantia Book
"The astronomic center of Satania is an enormous dark island of space which, with its attendant spheres, is situated not far from the headquarters of the system government"

Image
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/UniverseCentre7.htm

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God more  Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:08 pm

Thanks for the reply

What got me was the Light without Heat connection made with science concerning the Magnetar that flashed in June 2007 being related to the Spiritual Luminosity of Universal Deity
Not only is the UB a book of information and leads but also a dynamic book design to work with the Bible and the prophets of old.

Ive tested the book as best as I can in my journey of faith and Im very satisfied that its from the Father and the Ancients of Days as requested by the Secondary Midwayers about 400 years ago.

Im absolutely sure that its not Last Rebel Sophistry!

I believe the book is all part of the change of an Age/Dispensation that enhances the books we already have, in the extraction of the relevant fragments that relate to the beginnings of us.

I feel it give respect to the Bible but at the same time offers some correction in our understanding. It doesn't seem severe but mature and reasonable.

We all go by faith! and the end times is all about going by faith, sniffing out the change reality where I believe the Kingdom of Heaven of Jesus Sovereign and the Father is meeting us halfway. I see this in the equal time spaced events that relate to the conversation of recent posts.

I really hope Im right in this path for us all. Should be a good experience for us

I believe in my case all I have to do is write following the tracks and express myself freely and the Father and Jesus will do everything in the demonstration that is in alignment with the timeline of the message. To me that is an ancient characteristic that runs in alignment with what occurred with Abraham and Moses who also ran by faith.

What is revealed I believe covers all things from top to bottom.

The following verse to me speaks louder than words at this time

 

Quote:

“When the provisions of endless mercy and nameless patience have been exhausted in an effort to win the loyalty and devotion of the will creatures of the realms, justice and righteousness will prevail. That which mercy cannot rehabilitate justice will eventually annihilate.” (UB p. 241)



What is "nameless patience" what could that mean related to Judgment and patience? Nameless?? mm

Here is a definition and meaning of nameless

 

Quote:

Nameless Meaning and Definition(a.) Without a name; not having been given a name; as, a nameless star.
(a.) Undistinguished; not noted or famous.
(a.) Unnamable; indescribable; inexpressible.
(a.) Not known or mentioned by name; anonymous; as, a nameless writer.
(a.) Without a name; not having been given a name; as, a nameless star.
(a.) Not known or mentioned by name; anonymous; as, a nameless writer.
(a.) Unnamable; indescribable; inexpressible.
(a.) Undistinguished; not noted or famous
.

http://thinkexist.com/dictionary/meaning/nameless/



and here is a definition of patience

 

Quote:

Patience (Pa"tience) (?), n.
[F. patience, fr. L. patientia. See Patient.]

1. The state or quality of being patient; the power of suffering with fortitude; uncomplaining endurance of evils or wrongs, as toil, pain, poverty, insult, oppression, calamity, etc. "Strenthened with all might, . . . unto all patience and long-suffering." Col. i. 11. "I must have patience to endure the load." Shak. "Who hath learned lowliness From his Lord's cradle, patience from his cross." Keble.

2. The act or power of calmly or contentedly waiting for something due or hoped for; forbearance. "Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all." Matt. xviii. 29.

3. Constancy in labor or application; perseverance. "He learned with patience, and with meekness taught." Harte.

4. Sufferance; permission. [Obs.] Hooker. "They stay upon your patience." Shak.

5. (Bot.) A kind of dock (Rumex Patientia), less common in America than in Europe; monk's rhubarb.

6. (Card Playing) Solitaire.


Synonyms -- Patience, Resignation. Patience implies the quietness or self-possession of one's own spirit under sufferings, provocations, etc.; resignation implies submission to the will of another. The Stoic may have patience; the Christian should have both patience and resignation.

I have to say driving back I experience inner turmoil where the nameless patience was wearing thin. There was more to this road trip than I realize.

At one stage I was thinking of all the people that had robbed me in one form or another and I was really pissed of about it. But then I would turn to the Father for help. I realized I was in trouble within myself in my anger at one point I would praise Jesus for his help within myself and I did feel an uplift in my heart and my thoughts.

Ill remember that and keep that in my mind when I get anger that emanates from the past. Also having thoughts on the EMP/Rapture not to mention the power black out was astonishing and seeing that beautifully formed Wily Wily and reflections of conversations and thoughts of being raptured in the air scriptures was incredible to.

You know it just seems to match, the whole lot! The nameless one Sevens losing patience and then things occur that match the speak and then read about it in a manifestation that matches the speak reality in Roadhouse in the Newspaper 1st page on the same trip.

Like I was thinking about it wondering in turmoil about EMP/Rapture and many other things in the beginning of the journey and throughout the night even when I slept in the truck just thinking about it. I was loosing patience in my thoughts dredging in the past and in the meanwhile something had occurred without my knowledge.... something manifests in the physical that you can match and where you can read about in the paper, in the headlines in middle of the journey and then at the end you see it in the confirmation of the 456 number combination in the graffiti Banner on the side of the Freeway at the end of the journey!


AMAZING!!!!! and here is me getting all carried away, a nameless one, losing patience and events occur that match and its all related to judgment. It must be! It must be the confirmation found in the Urantia Book, discovered in 2 words that does match the reality of the speak and in the events in the physical that occurred on a road trip or Journey.

The full script I saw on the freeway was AKG 456 which relates to sound equipment. It was the 456 combination that impressed me.


Sevens


Made In Sheffield - Landmarks

Spacer. Map Section def-456. Map Section ABC-123 · Map Section ABC-456, Bottom Left Section of Map, Map Section DEF-123. Map Section DEF-456 ...

http://www.made-in-sheffield.com/places/def-456.asp

and note

 

sevens


Post Re: Okay, now maybe I see the possibility Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:15 am

Referring to the first post.

Spot on I agree. I completely san see it happening to, in alignment with prophecy.

I really believe in are in the actual time and in some first phase rapture process going by what I see and experience.


sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:31 am

I know its huge and it will take a life time to go through it.


 A very dynamic and happening book.

To me its been a great experience blending it with Bible.

Any correction is through realisation where its a positive enhancement that makes you feel good and close to Jesus. Its not a negative correction like in the world system except after the exhaustion of Mercy and patience. Judgment Day does exist and the Urantia Book supports this and the bible together.


Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:06 am

Interesting to note that at the Factory before I embarked on the journey I saw the storm clouds of this approaching storm and even made mention of it and drove through this torrential down pour as a result

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/546 ... -disaster/

and 4 hours later Sydney is blackout due to unknown reasons mmmmm.

Makes you think that since the Shabbes formation we have had fires, earthquakes, blackouts, willies willies and floods and many whale beachings.... Is there a disturbance and imbalance of some sort? creating these time synchronized natural and unexplained events.
 

This journey to the ancient places, including the recent journey up North felt like Jacobs trouble.

A trimester is like a timeline, like a triangle in metaphor.


sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:06 am

Looking at the importance of 4 in this video.

Why is 4 important. Like the time os the blackout 4.45 and the time on the clock 4.44

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?do ... nt=firefox

Mind you we are on the 4th month of April 09.

The history of the past is the prophetic future.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... 2013423816

Perry Stone appears to feel that end comes from the Beginning, What was shall be.

Fountains of the deep broken and water came out, could be a reflection of the beginning cities and water from above is the truth in the whole in alignment with events and the Heavens.

Genesis chapter 5 could be a type for this month of May 09, where Enoch who walks with God is translated.

sevens


Perry Stone Manna Fest #410 The Gates of Heaven

http://www.tangle.com/view_video.php?viewkey=d99c1e73e6d81b442688


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:18 pm

It seems to me that Jesus fulfilled everything in every cult religion before Christianity began and also fulfilled the words of the prophets of old.

Multiple Messiahs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFUotyXgsQ4

and

http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/1999/9910chap.asp

Sometimes I wonder whether the Woman and the Seed has a duality in metaphor relating to the End time catalyst of the Shabbes timeline of which contains the maiden name of the woman and her seed is he Son that formulated the construct related to the beginnings which bruises the Dragon. Also Shabbes means Sabbath or Seventh! which also contains the nameless author of the construct.

Perhaps the 1st stage rapture occurs and that's when the dragon gets all angry because the truth was confirmed in the witness and he is exposed for what he is, a deceiver.

Shabbes is a word that has duality in meaning in that it contains all the characters in name of the End Times catalyst and it does contain the names of the Mother and Son!

Where as the Father is not around and that would be right as it comes down as a Mother and Son operation in name. The Father is substituted by the Jesus or the Father himself. The Shabbes timeline is certainly a family operation in name and reality. To me it has the ring of fulfillment in the timeline of the End Times catalyst that ignites it.

Although, Im not sure about going to the desert as she is elderly but young in spirit.


sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:31 am 6

Just looking at the following verse.

http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q= ... 11&ver=kjv

 

Quote:

11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows [1] of heaven were opened.



In relation to the Shabbes timeline the 17 day in April equals a 3 x 6 day separation from the March 30th 09 Sydney blackout. Also April is the 2nd month of the Shabbes timeline and no one believes this timeline except for myself, so in reality it is like the days of Noah with events.

To me the Heavens and the Deep and the water has spiritual metaphor to the confirmation of the witness.  The Seal being broken up and the truth ensues and backed up.

Maybe the April 17th 09 is a good day to be on watch.

April 17th 09 in the Julian calendar is Easter Friday or Passover day

Easter Sunday Gregorian
12 April 2009

Easter Sunday Julian
19 April 2009

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter
 

Quote:

In the case of Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox Churches, which continue to use the Julian calendar, their starting point in determining the date of Orthodox Easter is also March 21 according to the Julian reckoning, resulting in the divergence in the date of Easter in most years.

The 17th April 09, Passover Day following the Julian Calendar falls on the beginning of the 6th Shabbes within the Shabbes timeline.

 

3rd Shabbes timeline Magnetar adventure up to date 50 day timeline Newsflash Jerusem Local System Headquarters crop circle rumors uptdate 50 day timeline Another Sydnet Blackout Crop circles began April14th 09 reported May 14th 09 Crop circles began April14th 09 reported May 14th 09 I found myself in Dyonisus the Young Aliens News release Keep Watch on the 17th April 09 Earth tremor felt at Sevenfold Headquarters Sinim 666 calculation A futher expasion relating to Symbols of the past Local System Headquaters wikipedia The chain of command of the Sevenfold Mission. Leviticus 23:16 A diagram of the 50 day Magnetar timeline Leviticus 23:16 Jane Lead connection to the discoverer and of the Sevens Sevenfold sign. in the oneness.


http://www.dalamatiacity.com/MagnetarSabbath.htm

and Baruchs 40 days in the second month falls on April 21st 09

 

The birth of the Seven Church of the Seventh Mystery Swine Flu announced and spreading Another Sydney Blackout I found myself in Dyonisus the Young Aliens News release 666 calculation Sydney Blackout Lulins triangle fromation begins in 1st Jan 09 Lulins closest approach Link around March 2nd 09 Earth tremor felt at Sevenfold Headquarters Sinim NewsFlash!!!!!  Comet Streaks By All about Jerusem in the Urantia Book A diagram of the 50 day Magnetar timeline Local System Headquaters A diagram of the timeline in the Magnetar journey upon realisation Panorama of the Universe, Nebadon Space Segment Jane Lead connection to the discoverer and of the Sevens Sevenfold sign. in the oneness.


http://www.dalamatiacity.com/MagnetarBurach1.htm


Very interesting!

Sevens


Perry Stone Manna Fest #411 ShakingHeaven/ClosingGentileAge

http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=0986c313fb943190c97c

Perry Stone Manna Fest #396 Early and Latter Rain

http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=74fa5d194e52a2952bb2

and 14/05/61 I was born

Israel was born 14/05/48

Perry Stone Manna Fest #403 Maranatha

http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1885225c04ca0aa767cd


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:48 pm

At the end of the day I have to praise the Father and Jesus in the Heaven for all things.

Praise be to the Lord God for his help and all these exciting things based on Faith in the End times. I really feel there will be a 1st Stage evac of the elect and I believe this timeline is right going on faith.

I dont know the hour nor the day when the Lord returns but if all things are correct it will be when people least expect it and it could mean right on time as calculated. Going by faith but I hope it is right for all of us and represents and great things for us who walk in faith with Jesus our master.

I just feel that heaven was awaiting a timeline based on the prophets a timeline that it could work with in the demonstration as all the components have to be right and fit together.

Praise the Lord in Heaven!

No worries mate! Cheers to the Sovereign Jesus from the great land of the South, Sinim.

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:43 pm

For sure, see what happens but for me Im on watch alert. To me the patterns I see in conjunction with events seem beyond coincidence.

but see what happens eh! See how things pan out.

sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:05 am blackout1

Wow this is huge!

Like I said this is all beyond coincidence and is happening as we speak.

 

Quote:

Sydney hit by another blackout
11:30 AEST Sat Apr 4 200930 minutes ago By ninemsn staff

Sydney has been hit by another blackout, with several suburbs in the city's east and possibly also the central business district affected.

Households in Bondi and Dover Heights reported loss of power at around 10.30am with similar reports from the CBD.

Police have advised citizens to delay or cancel travel plans and are placing officers on point duty at major intersections.

NSW Fire Brigades report multiple calls from city residents regarding apparent fires that are being triggered by the appearance of dark smoke coming from diesel generators in the basement of buildings.

There are also several incidents of people becoming trapped in elevators.

Energy Australia reports that over 50,000 customers are affected.

A spokeswoman for the company told 2GB that the issue was similar to the blackout that hit the city earlier in the week: one of the four main supply cables failed on Monday and a second one has failed today.

The issue is described as "slightly smaller" as 70,000 were affected by the first power cut but homes in the northern CBD plus Rose Bay, Vaucluse, Dover Heights, Watsons Bay, Redfern and Surry Hills have been affected.

Initial reports from Nine News reporters on the ground suggest that some traffic lights in the affected areas are still functioning.

The Sydney Harbour Tunnel was briefly closed in both directions but has now been reopened.

Sydney has been hit by another blackout, with several suburbs in the city's east and possibly also the central business district affected.

Households in Bondi and Dover Heights reported loss of power at around 10.30am with similar reports from the CBD.

Police have advised citizens to delay or cancel travel plans and are placing officers on point duty at major intersections.

NSW Fire Brigades report multiple calls from city residents regarding apparent fires that are being triggered by the appearance of dark smoke coming from diesel generators in the basement of buildings.

There are also several incidents of people becoming trapped in elevators.

Energy Australia reports that over 50,000 customers are affected.

A spokeswoman for the company told 2GB that the issue was similar to the blackout that hit the city earlier in the week: one of the four main supply cables failed on Monday and a second one has failed today.

The issue is described as "slightly smaller" as 70,000 were affected by the first power cut but homes in the northern CBD plus Rose Bay, Vaucluse, Dover Heights, Watsons Bay, Redfern and Surry Hills have been affected.

Initial reports from Nine News reporters on the ground suggest that some traffic lights in the affected areas are still functioning.

The Sydney Harbour Tunnel was briefly closed in both directions but has now been reopened.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/797625/sydney-hit-by-another-blackout

This occurred this morning 4th April 09 at around 10.30am and is 6 days after the first blackout. Another EMP like effect 6 days after the first and in synchronized alignment with the Shabbes timeline. Following the 6 days separation in events relevant to the conversation of this thread.

Amazing! Surely this is beyond coincidence. But they dont know WHY?

Praise the Lord!

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:34 am

Its just amazing that brother theremoteviewer and I where discussing these things when moments later the 2nd blackout occurs in Sydney!

Maybe in response. I really believe there are some things of Heaven going on here and in alignment in the oneness of the timeline.

13 minutes after I responded to theremoteviewer it happened!!!! WOW!   Interestingly I was anticipating an event for this day to, in beforehand, based on the 6 day event pattern.

Eh! No worries mate! More cheers to the Sovereign Jesus from the great land of Sinim.  This journey is GROUSE! ahahahahaha

Meet us here Lord. No worries! Music
persian_gulf/index.htm/kPlaylist/ChristianPlaylist.m3u

A real ACTION EVENTS Eh! ahahaha. Organized by the Kingdom of Heaven and all the good elder brothers attached to the Sevenfold Seraphic Mission Planet Urantia..... Right on Ancients of Days and the right on Father in the Kingdom of Heaven!!!


Sevens


Icon 1 posted 04-03-2009 09:25 PM


Maybe you should put up the rest of his posts fool so people can read it in context.


By the way where is your evidence or demonstration of anything


Your just simple minded trouble maker who cant see beyond your petty ego and attitude of grandstanding.


Just an idiot at the end to the day and that will be demonstrated if it hasn't been demonstrated already!

You go by way of the fool in chosen ignorance.

The End Times is precisely meant for people like you Jamie who choose to walk the line of chosen DUMB like a coward running for the hills in light of truth and demonstration!

sevens


 Icon 1 posted 04-03-2009 09:58 PM


Here is an extract from here EMP/rapture

http://forums.atlantisrising.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=002032

 

quote:


When the first rapture comes there maybe a EMP effect which brings the world into darkness. Then the fat lady sings and then people realize and the devastation that man will feel and it will be terrible but there is a way out and that is related to the ancient places and all the books of religion. This will lead, in preparation for the final and last Evac train out of the station. Like "The last train out of Sydney"


Since then I went on a road trip and things have happened as documented in the Shabbes Timeline.  2 blackouts in Sydney 6 days apart where the causes are unknown...amazing! and consistent with the conversation in the threads.


 -
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/MagnetarSabbath.htm


sevens



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdDbR56XOdI

Daniels Timeline - Part 2 0f 12 - Understanding End Time ...


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:34 pm

I was looking at this video

Daniels Timeline - Part 2 0f 12 - Understanding End Time Prophecy/Tribulation Period
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdDbR56XOdI

I am fascinated that the Shabbes timeline falls within the First Fruits and Shavuot period naturally as mentioned. I wasn't aware that this period was documented in this way with March April the beginning and the Pentecost period was displayed as 7 Shabbes with one extra day. Even though I came up with 14 Shabbes the period covers both feast periods. I see much commonality especially in the period of the year. Remember, I came to this timeline formulation in this time by the Magnetar system and speculation not through knowledge of the first fruits and Shavuot feasts at the time. Its only now that I see the parallel in the timeline and the beginning and end of these feasts. Its interesting that the beginning of the Shabbes timeline begins precisely on March 12th 09, 10 days after Baruch 40 days Like a first fruits feast/Shavuot period.

Image

At the end of the day we have to see what occurs to see if this is correct.

I noticed in the following slides dates very close to the ones mentioned in Noah, the 17th on the second month. The 15th in the second month is mentioned. But also I noticed many references to the common and familiar 6 day period.

Image

and

Image

I thought this calendar was interesting to and very close to the shabbes thought.

Image


I noticed many commonalities here to especially with the 14

Image

and I thought this was vitally interesting


A Shabuwa, of which comes out the feasts of weeks or 14 sabbaths related to Seven and the 1 to 10 could mean the 100 day period in which the Shabbes 14 sabbath is located.

Daniels Timeline - Part 4 of 12 - Understanding End Time Prophecy/Tribulation Period
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj4T0HLo ... re=related
Image

Note the Ub came in 1932 + 70 years = 2002 the year of the mobilization to Eden of Cyprus. Rebuilding the past and the wall could mean the wall of Eden to. 2009 could be the 7th Year before Daniels last 7 weeks according to the 1st Eden timeline. Note the words even "until the consummation" Looking forward to another time, like in Baruchs 40 day consummation and remember the desolation of the abomination that occurred in the first temple of the Father in Dalamatia City.

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgmucR3b ... re=related

Note where we are in 2009
Image


But off course the ancient times are the times of Dalamatia City, Eden and all the other epochs before Noah. These are the ancient times where the end shall come from.


Sevens


Icon 1 posted 04-04-2009 04:33 PM


When you say Exotic religion do you mean Hawaiian Music and hula dancers whilst reading the Urantia Book with Lullaby music in the background. That's sounds pretty cool to me.

By the way what do you discuss? anything worthwhile and that can be demonstrated as fact?

No

That means you would have nothing to say and therefore means you're in the wrong thread.
ahahahahahah

Also this thread is all about religion and the failed religion of Atlantis and the its unfinished business.....in fact. Not about non thinking selective pride and prejudice without reading everything in context

This is what Robert Sarmast was saying

The Protocols of Zion is real; everything it said would happen has already happened. But it was written by Luciferians, not Jews as many believe. The Luciferians hate the Jews (their line produced all the prophets, Jesus, Moses, monotheism etc.) and they deliberately shaped the Protocols to seem like it was the Jews writing it.

In other words, the Jews DIDN'T write the Protocols, and are being wrongly blamed.

Jamie your'e not reading it right. Your'e misunderstanding it.

From what I understand these protocols where written by the KGB many years ago as an excuse to imprison the Jews.

sevens
 


Icon 1 posted 04-04-2009 05:08 PM


While Im on the subject

Whilst I was up North I saw a brief glimpse of an interview with the opposition leader of Iran Seyed Mohammad Khātamī.

If ever Israel and the USA has a chance with Iran to find the road leading to peace it would be through this man.

Seyed Mohammad Khātamī
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Khatami

I am thoroughly impressed by this man.

He doesn't believe in Nuclear weapons and they should NOT be built.
He believes the Holocaust occurred
He is opposed to terrorism and thinks likes we do about it.
He seemed like a very balanced man that the west could find the road with.

I think he is open minded and rather approachable and would be well liked in the West. He does have a charisma about him.

I think he is the man to look out for better future for the region. I think he is a pacifist good for the area.

In fact he here in this country for a relations conference in a University. He is not to bad.

If it was between him as leader of Iran and the Israeli leadership I think the region would see a better future.
 

quote:


Khatami had run on a platform of liberalization and reform. During his two terms as president, Khatami advocated freedom of expression, tolerance and civil society, constructive diplomatic relations with other states including those in the European Union and Asia, and an economic policy that supported a free market and foreign investment.
 


but then again

 

quote:


On February 8, 2009, Khatami announced that he will run in 2009 presidential election.[3] On March 16th, he announced he was withdrawing from the race in favor of his long-time friend and adviser, former Prime Minister of Iran, Mir-Hossein Mousavi. [4]
 


Oh well have to see what this guy is like

Mir-Hossein Mousavi
This guy was an editor for a newspaper so you could imagine what that would entail in dotting the Is and Ts. and preferring this to that for a purpose.

If its for God essentially is Ok to falsify. In other words to lie is OK, if its for God.

There are some verses that reflect this in the Quran. We all know that's not right. No one should lie in any circumstance, in fact man lies far to much and God has to deal precisely with that in truth, in the demonstration of the End times.


Sevens


Icon 1 posted 04-04-2009 10:23 Pm


You seem right on that one.

That's why an event has to occur to mankind to grab his attention to these things. Unfortunately, I think Endless mercy and Nameless patience has run on this earth.

This is why I feel the process of judgment has to begin.  There is no way the earth is going to rehabilitate to the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven at the present time. I dont hold much faith in this.

Everyone lies and they are to selfish regardless of the self glory man puts himself through. His whole notion of religion is out of whack and is evident by the hatred and division that exists amongst religions and not to mention no belief where there is no defense.

All the writings of man have infiltrated in one way or another by the last rebel with sophistry that looks like light but is rather dark.

The UN have not got it right either with their Lucifer Sophistry. If there was ever a planetary disaster or a rapture/EMP the Alice Bailey/UN sophistry would prove itself as useless to the core. It would do nothing just sit there like chaff and that would blow away in the winds of Judgment.

It is the most worthless information that will not assist man in what is to come. It could be that man is so unteachable that last resort has to occur.



sevens
 


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:09 am

Mind you friends if nothing in the above comes to pass within the next 2 years most of these calculations are thrown out of whack and could be part of the correction in doctrine.

Just a thought to keep in mind.

I suppose the Father reserves the final right to do whatever his desires that pleases him in this time.
Meaning he will do what he wants to do and what he finds all pleasurable. In that he will do all his pleasure and all he desires in the end saga of calculations. If I know the Father he could be very spontaneous and without measure.

In saying this he likes to work with man and form a working/friendship relationship with man and I know for myself I have had many dates out there and whilst nothing occurred I was lead to to a greater path which lead me to the Shabbes timeline in the result. I was always led somewhere and was never disappointed.

One thing for sure, if these calculation dont manifest in 2 years it will be back to the drawing board and iof all is normal as we know it right through til 2016 then all the calculations where wrong. Im so sure the Father will honour all the prophets in the end time event but it maybe different in some ways.

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:00 am

Here is a documentary which is essentially about the 132 Andite written about in the UB who made there way to Peru through the Western Pacific way to the shores of Peru. I estimate before 5 000 years ago. They admixed with the Inca and transferred there knowledge understanding on every level through there progeny.

All the knowledge they received as you see it documented ultimately came from the very early Sumerians or Andites.

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?do ... ties&hl=en

Note the characteristic of the Sumerians... Like in Mesopotamia.....cultural characteristics of the Sumerians/Andite and there nomadic travels throughout the world. An evolutionary feature of the religion evolving in this part of the world.

Its interesting to note that this civilization began quite peacefully which may perhaps suggest peaceful Mariners arriving from another civilization, admixing with the early Inacs and sharing everything about themselves including their characteristics and you can see that of the Andite.

Later civilizations seemed to degrade spiritually after the first one of this type, imported from Sumeria at around 5000 years.

They way they did business in Caral has all the hallmarks of an imported culture that did trade, with culture like from Sumeria just before 5000 years II'd say.

A trading centre or a Sumerian trading outpost of no way of getting back home. The time of Caral would be around the time of the Sumerian collapse when it was over run.

Then some say that this city is older...around 12,000 years ago.


http://media.abovetopsecret.com/media/1 ... the_World/

We might be getting closer to the ancient 132 mariners that made it Peru from Mesopotamia.

Lost City in Peru founded home to the Cloud People
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5A-UbMEo_8

White cloud people.

Here is another video

Who On Earth Built This 3 - The Cloud People
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwC8g1kJrEA

and note the familiar the fanned squares.

Very similiar to the Van highland Headquarters Fanned sqaure design, one of the headquarter homes of the early Andites. A mix of Admaite and Nodite. Whose progeny went throughout in search of adventure in the world spreading culture and knowledge.

Image

Vans highland capital or the Headquarters of the Arattian Kigndom is also slighty off set from North. Like the fanned squares. Commonality!

 

Quote:

UB

line 110: These civilizations were evolutionary products of the Sangiks, notwithstanding that traces of Andite blood reached Peru. Excepting the Eskimos in North America and a few Polynesian Andites in South America, the peoples of the Western Hemisphere had no contact with the rest of the world until the end of the first millennium after Christ. In the original Melchizedek plan for the improvement of the Urantia races it had been stipulated that one million of the pure-line descendants of Adam should go to upstep the red men of the Americas



and here is a search

 

Quote:

PAPER 78 - THE VIOLET RACE AFTER THE DAYS OF ADAM, Oct 19 2000

line 75: The peoples of India lay stagnant, with a civilization that was unprogressing; the yellow man was consolidating his holdings in central Asia; the brown man had not yet begun his civilization on the near-by islands of the Pacific.

line 104: One hundred and thirty-two of this race, embarking in a [b]fleet of small boats from Japan, eventually reached South America and by intermarriage with the natives of the Andes established the ancestry of the later rulers of the Incas.[/b] They crossed the Pacific by easy stages, tarrying on the many islands they found along the way. The islands of the Polynesian group were both more numerous and larger then than now, and these Andite sailors, together with some who followed them, biologically modified the native groups in transit. Many flourishing centers of civilization grew up on these now submerged lands as a result of Andite penetration. Easter Island was long a religious and administrative center of one of these lost groups. But of the Andites who navigated the Pacific of long ago none but the one hundred and thirty-two ever reached the mainland of the Americas.

line 105: The migratory conquests of the Andites continued on down to their final dispersions, from 8000 to 6000 B.C. As they poured out of Mesopotamia, they continuously depleted the biologic reserves of their homelands while markedly strengthening the surrounding peoples. And to every nation to which they journeyed, they contributed humor, art, adventure, music, and manufacture. They were skillful domesticators of animals and expert agriculturists. For the time being, at least, their presence usually improved the religious beliefs and moral practices of the older races. And so the culture of Mesopotamia quietly spread out over Europe, India, China, northern Africa, and the Pacific Islands.

line 156: From 2500 to 2000 B.C. the nomads were on a rampage from the Atlantic to the Pacific. The Nerites constituted the final eruption of the Caspian group of the Mesopotamian descendants of the blended Andonite and Andite races. What the barbarians failed to do to effect the ruination of Mesopotamia, subsequent climatic changes succeeded in accomplishing.





Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:28 am

Giants:Mystery and the Myth - Pt. 1/6

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo ... __Pt__1_6/


sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:18 am

Here is a video of Eden which I think has fragments that point to 1stEden of Cyprus submerged. Adam and Eve were expelled to the East to the second garden between the Euphrates and the Tigris at its Narrowest point. Adam and Eves new home.

The Nodities, a pre existing civilization lived towards the East of the Second garden of Eden in the Elam highlands.

Mysteries Of The Garden Of Eden (1of5).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP0OEHnKCPY

Its interesting to note that in our day in the end times we have a garden of Eden also involved in the Saga. For real!

The End will be like the beginning and the end also comes from the beginning.

What Zarins found was the general location of Dilmun that Sumerians describe. Dilmun was built in the same design as Dalamatia City, in memory of the first city of the Gods.

Mysteries Of The Garden Of Eden (4of5).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xJaWcCEr0M

It appears that there getting closer to Dalamatia City when the Persian Gulf was dry.

Unlike some say the garden was real and it will resurrect in truth.

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:04 pm

Here is an update on the shabbes timeline

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Going by gut feeling, I hope this works out for all off us to be honest.

sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:32 pm

Quake hits Afghanistan, no word on casualties
http://www.reuters.com/article/featuredCrisis/idUSISL362156
 

Quote:

KABUL, April 9 09 (Reuters) - An earthquake shook the Afghan capital Kabul on Thursday, witnesses and officials said.

Officials at the government's anti-disaster management department said they were checking for damage and casualties but had no details on the size or epicentre of the quake.

Earthquakes in Afghanistan are mainly concentrated in the northeast, which is hit by an average of four quakes with a magnitude of five or more each year, according to the U.S. Geological Survey.

Mountainous Afghanistan has suffered a series of earthquakes that have killed thousands of people in the past decade. (Reporting by Golnar Motevalli; Editing by Dean Yates)



and more Earthquakes in faraway places.

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The earthquake’s epicentre, represented by the star, was 40 km south-east of Tolaga Bay and 40 km east of Gisborne. The blue dots represent those that felt the quake within ten minutes of it occurring.

Like another triangle.


8th April 09 at 11:12
Earthquake rocks Gisborne, New Zealand
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2324965 ... s-Gisborne
 

Quote:


An earthquake measuring magnitude five struck the Gisborne region last night.

It struck at 11:12 pm, 40 km east of Gisborne and at a depth of 20 km.

Residents reported feeling the quake, but there were no reports of damage so far, police said.

Giuseppe Martelli of Cordon Securitech Ltd said the quake shook his workplace. "It was like a rollercoaster."

The security firm had received a number of calls from residents concerned, but there had been no reports of damage. "It just gave people a fright and they were concerned about a tsunami."

Two earthquakes were also recorded in the region on Monday, measuring 4.2 and 4.4 respectively.

The majority of reports on Geonet following last night's quake were in the Gisborne area, but it was felt as far north as Waiotahi in the eastern Bay of Plenty and in Wairoa, south of Gisborne.

Other reports came from Tolaga Bay and the Mahia Peninsula.
 



Earthquakes in diverse places.


sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Thu Apr 09, 2009 1:41 pm

Another Earthquake on the April 9th 09

Earthquake Jolts Rajasthan; Three Injured
 

Quote:

Apr 9, 2009: A tremor measuring 5.3 on Richter scale with epicenter near Jaisalmer hit parts of Rajasthan on early Thursday morning injuring three women.

The earthquake felt in Bikaner, Barmer and Jodhpur also caused cracks in dozens of homes, authorities said.

The quake struck at 0717 hrs, said officials of meteorological department in New Delhi.

People rushed out of their homes in panic.



http://www.mypopkorn.com/news/earthquak ... jured.html

Quite a few for 08/09

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/
Many around the 5 mark
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php
 

and look how many in the last Seven Days

Latest Earthquakes in the World - Past 7 days
Latest Earthquakes Magnitude 2.5 or Greater in the United States and Adjacent Areas and Magnitude 4.5 or Greater in the Rest of the World - Last 7 days
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php



Sevens


Post Re: Challenging the inherited lies.

I know what you mean and I agree there are many evolutionary religion traits in Christianity. But one thing is for certain that the truth and teachings of Jesus will out live all of this where the truth will set man free in the demonstration of faith and its outworking.

No worries about that one.

I'm sure the Christian churches will see this within the hearts of the leaders.

They will recognize the dilemma they are in and hopefully will act.

Stuck between a rock and a hard place concerning faith and truth, the uncompromised truth of Jesus compared to there evolutionary untruth.

Understand the Last Rebel has infected all institutions, religion and secular where the faith of the "so called" elect are even in jeopardy because there is nothing happening there, its all dead and nothing compared to what's happening here where its completely dynamic, on the run by faith and Jesus, going for broke and am broke to the very end in faith in the truth of the master.

I personally think that religion is much more expanded than what we have been lead to believe.

Sevens


Post Re: Challenging the inherited lies. Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:44 am

I tell you what's happening is bigger than anything that is has ever happened in the Catholic church. The Father is working with us here and is personally and intimately involved here.

Make no mistake about one to.

Doing the will of Father is testing, my only fortress is my mind and body and there is no support from anyone except from the Angels, Jesus and the Father.

Sometimes I don't know how I will survive as working for 2 masters is difficult.

But uncannily I say great, bring it on and see how It tests my faith. Don't get me wrong I am vulnerable and weak in many ways but its Jesus and his truth that keeps me afloat and going as that's all I have and I have nothing to loose. Life is a dilemma and its very testing of the spirit. I can understand why people need prayers.

All I can do is work the End Times and see what comes to pass in faith walking with the Father as a friend and who is approachable. The Father, Jesus and all the Angels are actively working man on the Grandest end time project ever to been seen by man.

Its a real Universal collaboration.

No worries about that one to, enough to flatten all untruth in the demonstration. But before all is revealed we are to be tested. I hope I can get through Its awfully difficult to be on your own and no love anywhere to strengthen you except through the Father. Thats the reason for all these discoveries along the way to strengthen man and his faith.


Sevens
 


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:58 am

Im a bit earthquake mad

Another Jiggle on April 09 09

 

Quote:

Small earthquakes jiggle eastern San Diego County
The Associated Press
Posted: 04/09/2009 04:09:23 PM PDT


JULIAN, Calif.—Small earthquakes have rattled eastern San Diego County.
U.S. Geological Survey geophysicist Dale Grant says a magnitude-3.4 temblor hit at 2:45 p.m. Thursday about five miles north of Julian, and was felt as far away as San Diego and it suburbs of Santee and El Cajon.

About an hour earlier, a magnitude-3.0 quake hit about 15 miles northeast near Borrego Springs.

A number of much smaller tremors preceded and followed those quakes.

Seismologist Kate Hutton of the California Institute of Technology says the quakes seems too distant to be related to a swarm of seismic activity about 50 miles east in the Salton Sea region, but seismologists don't know for sure.



Interesting numbers

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:01 am

Well everyone

Happy Easter eh!

All the best wishes for you and your family. I pray for all good things for you all and great blessings from the Father. Just be highly aware and on watch.

This Easter period could be very interesting.

Eh! no worries at all.

Praise Jesus for his great and massive Universe victory and for the truth of all things.

Praise the Lord and the Father in Heaven and within us.

Glory be to the Father.

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God

Here is a email I recieved from Ernest Moyers.

I found it very interesting and I think Christians should take more notice of the Urantia book researchers who do combine with all the books of religion.

I believe this man has an excellent perception of the books and I would listen to him.

I feel these are the people of Jesus that people should take note of.
 

Quote:


The Role of Urantians in Unfolding Planetary Destiny

To Thomas Orjala and others engaged in the "50k in 5" Urantian outreach program.

("50k in 5" means 50,000 people in 5 years.)

I appreciate your including me on your mail list.

I first met the Urantia Papers in 1967, but did not get serious with them until after I attended the Summer Study Session at 533 Diversey Pkwy in 1968. I can readily identify with your Methodist background, your disillusionment, and your capture by God through the Papers.

William Sadler was the person responsible for bringing the Papers to the world. According to private revelations given to him they have a two-fold purpose: 1) early training of "Leaders and Teachers" and 2) later widespread propagation to the rest of the world. Understanding of how these two purposes relate to one another requires a grasp of planetary destiny. Unfortunately, most Urantians, who are not educated in the ways of God beyond the Papers, remain ignorant of that destiny.

Sadler was told:

The Book belongs to the era immediately to follow the conclusion of the present ideological struggle.

From this simple statement we can reach a profound conclusion: the Papers were not intended for widespread influence on the world during this ideological struggle. Or, to put it another way, the Papers were designed to not interfere in this struggle, nor to modify its conclusion.

On the other hand, Sadler was also told:

But the publication of the Book has not been postponed to that somewhat remote date. An early publication of the Book has been provided so that it may be in hand for the training of leaders and teachers.

Who are these "leaders and teachers?" You and I? Are we part of a "corps of ministry" to the rest of the world? Or will these "leaders and teachers" appear separately from the "50k in 5" and other Urantian outreach programs?

The Book is being given to those who are ready for it long before its world wide mission. "Thousands of study groups must be brought into existence . . ."

I can assure you from personal experience the major impact Urantia study groups have had on my life. The Papers were given to you, and they were given to me. They were given to us long before their world wide mission. Then how were they intended for you and me if their world wide mission comes much later? How do we explain this riddle?

Suppose we are these "leaders and teachers?" Since we were given the Papers now, what is our role if not the world wide mission? Do we have some other mission?

If you follow world events you may notice that we are in an increasing cultural crisis, a crisis now affecting all of civilization. Clearly, the Papers have had no influence on the flow of world events. This means that the various struggling Urantia Groups have had no influence on world crisis developments, and the notion that they would was sadly misguided. This means, further, that any future development of present organized Urantia affairs will also have no such influence.

The historic idea of the Urantia Papers bringing to the world a cultural renovation have thus far failed utterly to produce such admired results. The world is madly running down hill at an ever increasing pace.

If you do not see this in the daily news reports from around the world you are not in touch with reality.

In my view the "leaders and teachers" are not even the mass of those persons who have come into contact with the Urantia Papers. Their numbers may be small. Indeed, if I am guided by Revelation their numbers may not be much more than 1,000 individuals, page 1258. Leaders and Teachers may indeed appear but those who become influential on world affairs may even be smaller than that number.

They have not yet appeared.

In fact, they may not appear until the world crisis crosses the threshold of no return. Or they may appear as part of the Return of Jesus. See

http://www.world-destiny.org/bbg/The%20 ... Jesus.aspx

What then is your mission with the "50k in 5" program? It may be nothing more than a help in bringing the Papers to the world, the second part of the dissemination program described to Sadler. Note that this second part is not designed to save the world, since the conclusion of the present ideological struggle has not been reached. In other words, God does not want us to "save" this present godless society. He has some other plan for us.

The idea that some of us Urantians play a key role in a larger revelation program is found in various statements made in the Papers. For example:

P.1087 - §4 Institutional religion cannot afford inspiration and provide leadership in this impending world-wide social reconstruction and economic reorganization because it has unfortunately become more or less of an organic part of the social order and the economic system which is destined to undergo reconstruction. Only the real religion of personal spiritual experience can function helpfully and creatively in the present crisis of civilization.

I find it extremely unfortunate that so many Urantians fail to grasp the magnitude and the context of this and other destiny remarks. Can you not see what is being said here?

Our entire social order: our methods of civil management, our educational structures, our medical systems, and our food supply and distribution is due for transformation.

(Did you notice that if the trucks stop running today you will die. No food. No fuel from the oil producing countries and you will starve to death.)

Likewise, our world-wide economic system, which now hovers on the brink of collapse, and which has been brought to this point by raw greed, is due for reconstruction.

In other words, our entire civilization is due for a renovation that transcends all current cultural hope.

This is where Urantians have become trapped; they continue to hope that our present civilization will be saved through their efforts. But they hold forth this hope in defiance of Revelation.

P.1086 - §4 Mechanical inventions and the dissemination of knowledge are modifying civilization; certain economic adjustments and social changes are imperative if cultural disaster is to be avoided. This new and oncoming social order will not settle down complacently for a millennium. The human race must become reconciled to a procession of changes, adjustments, and readjustments. Mankind is on the march toward a new and unrevealed planetary destiny.

In the presence of this imminent collapse of civilization, God has instituted a method whereby complete cultural disaster will be avoided. That is when the Leaders and Teachers will appear. That is when their knowledge of cosmic affairs will come to fruition. And then only in the midst of a unique spiritual crisis associated with His Return. When we are faced with the greatest spiritual test of all time, then, and only then, will arise a true spiritual renovation. Only then will the real religion of a personal spiritual experience function helpfully and creatively.

P.2081 - §5 Materialism denies God, secularism simply ignores him; at least that was the earlier attitude. More recently, secularism has assumed a more militant attitude, assuming to take the place of the religion whose totalitarian bondage it onetime resisted. Twentieth-century secularism tends to affirm that man does not need God. But beware! this godless philosophy of human society will lead only to unrest, animosity, unhappiness, war, and world-wide disaster.

Can any person not recognize such Revelation?

Within this cataclysmic reformation of the world you personally have a usefulness. I mentioned to Mo Siegel a number of years ago that it would be wise for him and the other Board members of the Urantia Foundation to be prepared for a sudden burst of interest in the Urantia Papers. I do not know the magnitude of that sudden burst. I do not know the schedule. But it will come as the result of an intense alteration of attitude on the part of many Christians or others who will want to know what is happening on our world. It will come as part of an intense religious crisis. Then those other persons will seek you out. You will not need to seek them out.

P.1041 - §5 All Urantia is waiting for the proclamation of the ennobling message of Michael, unencumbered by the accumulated doctrines and dogmas of nineteen centuries of contact with the religions of evolutionary origin. The hour is striking for presenting to Buddhism, to Christianity, to Hinduism, even to the peoples of all faiths, not the gospel about Jesus, but the living, spiritual reality of the gospel of Jesus.

That is where the Leaders and Teachers will come to fulfillment.

I personally see this as unfolding in less than the five years you have given yourself.

Are you prepared?

Ernest
 



all the best

Sevens


 


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:24 pm

I noticed in the following that Islam was left out in name. Is that where the great ideological struggle occurs? Consider Islam is one of the largest faiths on the planet and for it to be excluded in name tells me something. Maybe Im reading to much in it but the Urantia leaves doors open for pondering.

Something to do with the truth? an ideological struggle.

 

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P.1041 - §5 All Urantia is waiting for the proclamation of the ennobling message of Michael, unencumbered by the accumulated doctrines and dogmas of nineteen centuries of contact with the religions of evolutionary origin. The hour is striking for presenting to Buddhism, to Christianity, to Hinduism, even to the peoples of all faiths, not the gospel about Jesus, but the living, spiritual reality of the gospel of Jesus.

 



Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:33 pm

P.1086 - §4 Mechanical inventions and the dissemination of knowledge are modifying civilization; certain economic adjustments and social changes are imperative if cultural disaster is to be avoided. This new and oncoming social order will not settle down complacently for a millennium. The human race must become reconciled to a procession of changes, adjustments, and readjustments. Mankind is on the march toward a new and unrevealed planetary destiny

What do the highlights mean? the magnitude of these words are awesome and what does it entail concerning "certain economic adjustments and social changes are imperative if cultural disaster is to be avoided"?

Imperative to me means this can't be avoided. Destined for sudden change and that means there must be an appointed time as read in the Dead Sea Scrolls.

Whatever the new social order is, it will take us a thousand years for it to settle down.

That means a very big change?? A huge revealing would do something like this.

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:44 pm

Here is a link about the reserve corp of destiny as reflected in the DSC.

It is completely reflective to what we see today.

http://www.world-destiny.org/bbg/Cosmic ... Corps.aspx

"all the glory of Adam",

It has to be about the expeditions to 1stEden of Cyprus and the complete journey which includes, precisely this journey. This is about the "the Glory of Adam"....1stEden, The all in the verse in my mind means all the other ancient cities including Dalamatia City and Vans highland place. This journey is a direct extension of the journey of Eden where every man in this journey do things according to his will which happens to be the Fathers will concerning 1stEden.
 

Quote:

19 And He built them a sure house in Israel [the like of which never arose from of old nor until

20 this day]. They who hold fast to him are for the life of eternity, And all the glory of man (Adam) is for them. As



It means that the final message comes from the Beginning which precisely means 1stEden.

Its the journey bro.

I think it has been identified with precision. 

Just beautiful

Quote:

I Enoch 39:1 — And it shall come to pass in those days that elect and holy children will descend from the high heaven, and their seed will become one with the children of men.

Here is a glimpse of the Reserve Destiny Corp.
 

Quote:

I offer Gaster's version because I feel it better captures the nature of these people:

those elect of Israel that have been designated by name and that shall go on functioning in the last days.

Behold, their names have been specified,

the families into which they are to be born,

the epochs in which they are to function,

the full tale of their tribulations,

the length of their sojourn in exile,

and the precise nature of their deeds.

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:52 am

Quote:

P.1087 - §4 Institutional religion cannot afford inspiration and provide leadership in this impending world-wide social reconstruction and economic reorganization because it has unfortunately become more or less of an organic part of the social order and the economic system which is destined to undergo reconstruction. Only the real religion of personal spiritual experience can function helpfully and creatively in the present crisis of civilization.


The above means that the Institutionalized religion cannot and will not provide leadership in the current crisis. This includes the Catholic church and all the other Institutionalized  religions. In other word you can forget about those churches giving and advice because they are part of the world system. They are organic to the world system, it appears the world system is to collapse and so will the institutionalized churches because they are so embedded within the system that they are blinded and guided by fear.

The only help that will come is from the individual religionists in there helpful creativity as like this journey to the ancient places.

I think this journey is it, combined with all the brothers in there journey related to 1stEden.

Well I praise the Lord in this fine and grand journey, full of helpful creativity.

Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God

Referring to this link

http://www.thendtimes.com/forum/posting.php?mode=edit&f=8&t=950&p=59508

 

Quote:

Note that this second part is not designed to save the world, since the conclusion of the present ideological struggle has not been reached. In other words, God does not want us to "save" this present godless society. He has some other plan for us.




I agree with this that God has no intention of saving this world system. I think people should forget about saving what we have and look forward to Rapture. In the future God will set up a New World Order based on the uncompromised standards of Jesus.

That is the Fathers intention.

Forget about saving this world and the world system, its far gone and beyond redemption. This system is done for and there is nothing no one can do. Best to look forward to rapture and the new world.

In the meanwhile we can save as many brothers as possible. Other than that its all over Red Rover for this system. Have a last look but don't get sentimental for this is for the future destiny and its imperative! Don't do a Lots wife and hold on to what you have and all the materialism. Let go of it, it will not serve any purpose.

You can blame the misguided leadership of our leaders for this and including the greedy people about them they are responsible for many things that are wrong today.


Sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God at Apr 11, 2009 6:54 am

What may happen to the elect?

Pure speculation

Whilst in rapture the elect will be busy working to learn and understand many things taught us by the Universal administration.

I feel that in the first instance the elect will have a reception with Jesus, personally where he will speak to us about many things concerning the future destiny. I feel after that we will be transported to another planet to learn many things about their system. I have a feeling that this visitation of the elect from another world will be placed in their prophecies of which will come to pass. It will be delivered by a prophet there who is arising and who speak of us as I write this.

Because there are 24 planets in quarantine and still in rebellion a similar thing could happen to a few of there people who visit another planet and learn things.

A reoccurring process of renewal and uplift for all planets concerned.

This could be a way of lifting the quarantine for all the planets in rebellion in our sector in one clean sweep in a reality of oneness in time and space.

The Elect and there immediate family will be evacuated and the whole family will have such a beautiful time, so wonderful as a family experience! So different and on such a higher level to what we see today around us.

The total number evacuated including elect and families could be around the 144,000.

The part I look forward to is finding an Adamic wife that I could find love with. Wow! Come back to the planet and create a large family for a thousand years to settle the planet and witness the reception of our first translation temple....like in Star Trek and all the while supping of the Tree of Life in a new Eden.

The New Adams and Eves.

It will be a brand new beginning.

And we will be glowing a purple hue...Our mark of Jesus and the Tree of Life.

sevens


Post Re: Dalamatia, the original home of the Sons of God Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:51 am

Whilst the Elect are away.

Planet Urantia will be basket case number one
To say the least!

Everything in prophecy will most likely come to pass.

False people proclaiming false things and the worst within man will appear.

I'm sure the ancient places will be hijacked somehow as people become familiar with this journey in the beforehand and used to proclaim a false Christ perhaps. Then he makes a mistake by getting carried away with himself.


Sevens


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