Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:47 pm    Post subject:

In the following I though is a veiled warning from Jesus. I feel its important that should be focused on. Yesterday, I felt down about the whole thing particularly the lack of response and the lack of participation. Last night I was invited by a couple of UB readers to come over and read a paper. We read paper 151 as in the following link.

http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper151.html

After reading Paper 151 and coming across all the messages contained lifted me up and inspired me.


Here is an excerpt I would like to explore.

 

Let me tell you that nothing is hid in the kingdom of heaven which shall not be made manifest; neither are there any secrets which shall not ultimately be made known. Eventually, all these things shall come to light.

Absolutely, the ancient places as mentioned in the UB is completely consistent with the journey to the ancient places, the submerged cities of Dalamatia and 1stDilmun. These are the secrets with hidden messages that have been found and identified and revealed in fragment form in all the books of religion. The revealing of these places are the hidden secrets of the planet and particularly the "Seven Commands" they are the real secret related to future destiny. They are coming to light as each day passes, step by step we are journeying to the ultimate destiny of the planet.

And what about this next piece. I believe this the veiled warning to everyone including religions considering the Father is no respecter of anyone. No matter who!

Think not only of the multitudes and how they hear the truth; take heed also to yourselves how you hear. Remember that I have many times told you:

To him who has shall be given more, while from him who has not shall be taken away even that which he thinks he has."

 

Take heed no matter who you are. Don't underestimate anything in this research particularly through pride and prejudice. The division of Pride and prejudice is going to be the biggest obstacle for mankind. This discovery, I believe will break the back of pride and prejudice. If there is a response from Paradise, that will break the back of terrorism on all sides, known and unknown, no matter from which country. The Father will respect no persons if the the spirit of the Father cant be found within man, I believe the holy spirit! I would think that would be the identifying feature within mans soul that the Father would search mans soul for and the fruits of the spirit and his faith condition I suppose.

I believe what will be identified is the motivation, what drives us. Good or bad. No one escapes from as the barriers of religion will come crashing down. Into one complete presentation.

This can be confirmed by the following

 

Wow! What about that powerful warning, from Jesus himself. It couldn't get more direct. I tell you, I would seriously consider informing others about this time, a time of humility and be willing to learn more and more about the "Kingdom of Heaven" and its approach.

I would inform others on all levels of government and in religion that is coming up and its appears to be solid and measurable. Not to mention it can be found in the books. I mean we are in the beforehand, this is time to do all you can. While there is great opportunity! While the harvest is ripe for the harvest. The harvest of mankind! Harvesting for the Father in Paradise and within us. In union with the holy spirit.

I got off track, lets look at this

"To him who has shall be given more, while from him who has not shall be taken away even that which he thinks he has."

To whom that hears, sees and does will receive more and given more. Well I can testify to that in this journey. However this may apply for those who proclaim to know but accept nothing else through pride and prejudice. They close there minds because of fear of doctrine where they think they have all but refuse instruction. Perhaps they loose what they been given even they though they think they are safe and have inheritance.

Fair Dinkum!! all the churches should be informed about this and other religions and really examine themselves in all areas of truth, finance and particularly motivation. Thats seems to be the key. The motive of action and what drives the inner man in his inner thoughts! Its time for burying the hatchet and self examine according to all the advise given by Jesus found in all the books including the UB. We all believe in Jesus.

 

This to me is the direct instruction from Jesus and his standard for this time for all times in the future. In the above is the standard, the standard of faith! which leads to the paths of glory with the Father.

I think what is expressed in the above seems quite reasonable in this requirement for us to through this. This really means burying old things, in the past, present and future. I can think of a few things!

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/entry.htm

See what happens next but the to me there is a real message in this path. A real standard has been revealed in my view in relation to the end times.

Sevens

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:26 am    Post subject:

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Hi

 

Remember, the complete research in this whole thread is about the test of Mankind, The test of Faith, where all the books are put on the table for examination against the beforehand discovery of journey and discovery of the ancient places. The test of mankind that I proclaimed in July 4th, 06 where one month later, I discovered Enoch 10 week judgment that began in the first week of the Seventh month which in the seventh part the ancient places was discovered in one night through NASA software.

To me that was absolutely defining and relevant to the conversation at the time and has not changed since. Now we approaching the time period one year later. I think its quite significant!

Particularly, when you look at the below fragment where Jesus in his own words refers to a test, a test he is the tester. Jesus is admitting the fact that he will test us.

 

Incredible that I found this fragment at this time. That Jesus is going to test us and that is the test of mankind, the test of faith! that will result in something measurable, definable. Mind you regarding, the test have found heaps of references to the test in the dead sea scrolls and through other books.

It was around the time when I found that references to the test was propping in the research where the inspiration of the test came to the surface. However in the timeline, I remember I was so annoyed with the terrorism that I did the declare test to the Ancients of Days. A proclamation regarding the ancient places.

Well anyway the fragment "I would test you to know how you will receive this:"



The test of faith, the great test of mankind, the test of Jesus, the author!, the author of enlightenment and expansion through a life situation in the middle of world events. Right in the middle of the saga!

I believe if man ignores this and does nothing I reckon he will get his behind severely kicked. Don't underestimate nothing in what is happening here. We could be closer than you think. No one needs money to go there because Paradise might just take it in there own hands and cause it to happen.

I just want to say that Jesus tested many people as we read about his life.

I would also examine his various tests he put people through.

All we have to do is follow the advise of Jesus through all his books in faith. Sit back and have confidence that Jesus is in charge of this and explore a new spiritual frontier where man has never gone before. A real leap for mankind and the Father.

Sevens

 excerpts from the Urantia Book

The Kingdom of Heaven

One evening about sundown, before Joseph had returned home, Gabriel appeared to Mary by the side of a low stone table and, after she had recovered her composure, said: "I come at the bidding of one who is my Master and whom you shall love and nurture. To you, Mary, I bring glad tidings when I announce that the conception within you is ordained by heaven, and that in due time you will become the mother of a son; you shall call him Joshua, and he shall inaugurate the kingdom of heaven on earth and among men. Speak not of this matter save to Joseph and to Elizabeth, your kinswoman, to whom I have also appeared, and who shall presently also bear a son, whose name shall be John, and who will prepare the way for the message of deliverance which your son shall proclaim to men with great power and deep conviction. And doubt not my word, Mary, for this home has been chosen as the mortal habitat of the child of destiny. My benediction rests upon you, the power of the Most Highs will strengthen you, and the Lord of all the earth shall overshadow you."

and

3. RELIGION AND THE RELIGIONIST

Early Christianity was entirely free from all civil entanglements, social commitments, and economic alliances. Only did later institutionalized Christianity become an organic part of the political and social structure of Occidental civilization.

The kingdom of heaven is neither a social nor economic order; it is an exclusively spiritual brotherhood of God-knowing individuals.

True, such a brotherhood is in itself a new and amazing social phenomenon attended by astounding political and economic repercussions.

and

It was hard for the next generation to comprehend the story of Melchizedek; within five hundred years many regarded the whole narrative as a myth. Isaac held fairly well to the teachings of his father and nourished the gospel of the Salem colony, but it was harder for Jacob to grasp the significance of these traditions. Joseph was a firm believer in Melchizedek and was, largely because of this, regarded by his brothers as a dreamer. Joseph's honor in Egypt was chiefly due to the memory of his great-grandfather Abraham. Joseph was offered military command of the Egyptian armies, but being such a firm believer in the traditions of Melchizedek and the later teachings of Abraham and Isaac, he elected to serve as a civil administrator, believing that he could thus better labor for the advancement of the kingdom of heaven.
Link

and

The keys of the kingdom of heaven are: sincerity, more sincerity, and more sincerity. All men have these keys. Men use them--advance in spirit status--by decisions, by more decisions, and by more decisions. The highest moral choice is the choice of the highest possible value, and always--in any sphere, in all of them--this is to choose to do the will of God. If man thus chooses, he

Link

and

The fifth morontia manifestation of Jesus to the recognition of mortal eyes occurred in the presence of some twenty-five women believers assembled at the home of Joseph of Arimathea, at about fifteen minutes past four o'clock on this same Sunday afternoon. Mary Magdalene had returned to Joseph's house just a few minutes before this appearance. James, Jesus' brother, had requested that nothing be said to the apostles concerning the Master's appearance at Bethany. He had not asked Mary to refrain from reporting the occurrence to her sister believers. Accordingly, after Mary had pledged all the women to secrecy, she proceeded to relate what had so recently happened while she was with Jesus' family at Bethany. And she was in the very midst of this thrilling recital when a sudden and solemn hush fell over them; they beheld in their very midst the fully visible form of the risen Jesus. He greeted them, saying:

"Peace be upon you. In the fellowship of the kingdom there shall be neither Jew nor gentile, rich nor poor, free nor bond, man nor woman.

You also are called to publish the good news of the liberty of mankind through the gospel of sonship with God in the kingdom of heaven. Go to all the world proclaiming this gospel and confirming believers in the faith thereof. And while you do this, forget not to minister to the sick and strengthen those who are fainthearted and fear-ridden. And I will be with you always, even to the ends of the earth." And when he had thus spoken, he vanished from their sight, while the women fell on their faces and worshiped in silence.

link

and

"Among yourselves, here, you share the knowledge that I have risen from the dead, but that is not strange. I have the power to lay down my life and to take it up again; the Father gives such power to his Paradise Sons. You should the rather be stirred in your hearts by the knowledge that the dead of an age entered upon the eternal ascent soon after I left Joseph's new tomb. I lived my life in the flesh to show how you can, through loving service, become God-revealing to your fellow men even as, by loving you and serving you, I have become God-revealing to you. I have lived among you as the Son of Man that you, and all other men, might know that you are all indeed the sons of God. Therefore, go you now into all the world preaching this gospel of the kingdom of heaven to all men. Love all men as I have loved you; serve your fellow mortals as I have served you. Freely you have received, freely give. Only tarry here in Jerusalem while I go to the Father, and until I send you the Spirit of Truth. He shall lead you into the enlarged truth, and I will go with you into all the world. I am with you always, and my peace I leave with you."

link

Isaiah

"It is too small a thing that
You should be My Servant To raise up the tribes of Jacob,
And to restore the preserved ones of Israel; I will also give You as a
light to the Gentiles,
That You should be My salvation
to the ends of the earth." (Isaiah 49: 6).

 

and

 

"That You (the Mahdi) may say to the prisoners, 'Go forth,' To those who are in darkness,
'Show yourselves. . . .'
For He who has mercy on
them will lead them,
Even by the springs of water
He will guide them. . . .
Surely these shall come from afar;
Look! Those from the north
and the west,
And these from the land of Sinim." (Isaiah 49: 9, 10, 12).

 "Can a woman forget
her nursing child,
And not have compassion
on the son of her womb?

Surely they may forget,
Yet I will not forget you.
See, I have inscribed you
on the palms of My hands; (Is this about the Seven Commands?)
Your walls are continually before Me." (Is this a subtle references to the walls of Dalamatia and 1stDilmun.)
(Isaiah 49: 15 - 16).
 

 

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:03 am    Post subject: prophecy timelines

Ive been looking at this fragment about The Glory of the temple and Zerubbabel to see if can see more in it in relation to the focalisation on the ancient places Dalamatia and Babel/1stDilmun.

Ive been looking mainly at the dates to see if there is any connection with the journey to the submerged ancient cities."In the seventh month, in the one and twentieth day of the month, came the word of the LORD by the prophet Hag'gai, saying,"

So that would be July 21st. 1 month before Jesus' birthday 21st August, right in the middle of the beginning and the end of Haggai's end time prophecy.


 

consider this

 

Another date I picked up was this date

 

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and then in the same day you have this

 

and considering the ancient places was discovered on the 16-17th September the ninth month.

How ever this prophecy began on the Seventh Month in the 21st day, July 21st. The prophecy was all about the glory of the 2nd temple but I think is symbolic or in type to the temple of faith, the third temple. The third temple of the lord.

 

To me it speaks of a rebuke and then a promise "on that day" according to Haggai the date of a rebuke and promise is 24th September ??/??, maybe 07..you never know!

Its seems that a process began on the July21st which ended on the 24th September.

This is no difference to the 10 week judgment of Enoch that began on the same month, the Seventh month, July but in the 1st week and ended in the 10th week where in the Seventh part, Dalamatia and Dilmun was discovered, again on September the 16-17th 12.00am.

Quite interesting

All is being revealed!

As we unravel the mysteries the closer we get to the ancient places.

Its as good as time as any.

Consider the following from the first quote and then consider the Parable of the Sower particularly the last section in the previous posts on this page . Also consider that Jesus never repeated again that last section of the Parable of the Sower. Because I feel it was meant for us, in this time.

Here is the piece from the above the compliments the last section the Parable of the Sower spoken by Jesus himself.

 

and here is the last section of the Parable of the Sower spoken by Jesus.

 

Prophecy time lines





and an interesting piece I found in Isaiah 2 years ago

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/eden/isaiah_44.htm

sevens

Todays date

Potts noted the appearance of Dilmun in a victory inscription:
 

"...Uperi, king of Dilmun, whose camp is situated, like a fish, thirty beru (double-hours) away in the midst of the sea of the rising sun..." (p. 334. Vol. 1. Potts)

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:42 am    Post subject:

Some 2nd Dilmun (Bahrain) Seals all reminiscent of the circular Babel symbol reflective of the tower in 1stDilmun of Iran.

from here

http://hindunet.org/hindu_history/sarasvati/lapis/lapis_lazuli.htm

the 2nd Dilmun Seals





 

It Seems that Susa in Elam had a similar circular seal. Perhaps reflective of a distinct and similar culture to that of Dilmun, perhaps remnants of the 1st Dilmun and also had links with the 2nd Dilmun in Bahrain perhaps the same people. But all derived from the 1stDilmun of Iran.

Fig. 99; Failaka; no. 174 impression;
two bull heads emanating from a chequered
square; two persons drinking; altar and sun;
bull in the lower register

Here is another interesting Dilmun Seal



Fig. 99; Failaka; no. 174 impression;
two bull heads emanating from a chequered
square; two persons drinking; altar and sun;
bull in the lower register

Here is another interesting one


there definitely seals with some meaning. The so called serpent looks like a canal or DNA or something.

 

there definitely seals with some meaning. The so called serpent looks like a canal or DNA or something.

Remembering that the "People called MAR-TU" where also called the the people of the Maat. Which was another word Dilmat which is the same as Dilmun. Another name for Dilmun in Egypt is Maat or Maati.


 

Sevens

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:48 am    Post subject:

Here is an interesting piece

 

from

http://naturalskeptic.blogspot.com/

However, in regards to the journey and the signs of change lets have a look at the verses recommended in the above excerpt.

 

and

 

and

 

and

 

and about the Seven heads and the dragon.

Isaiah 27:1
The Deliverance and In gathering of Israel

27In that day the Lord with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing [1] serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.

and

 

and

 

and

 

and
 

and


 

Very interesting assortment of verses that I feel has relations to this current reality in the journey to the ancient places. Definitely has relevance to the current conversation and inquiry. It appears to be coming from the sea, the abyss.

Different topic but maybe there maybe some clues in this.

Akhenaten, S¹urya, and the R. gveda

http://www.ece.lsu.edu/kak/akhena.pdf

Remembering Akhenaten or Iknanton began the first monotheistic religion in Egypt.

 

and this post about 2nd Dilmun was interesting.

Dilmun Calendar Theory Backed

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1663920/posts

 

Does the triangular room in 2nd Dilmun Bahrain have connection to the sun or circle in the triangle symbol found in the passageway of the pyramid?  The circle in the triangle, in fact it was a double symbol.  One within the other.  The triangular room at temple with the sun beaming in the middle of the triangle room in 2ndDilmun could be the first designs of the great pyramid taken from this temple by Imhotep.  Imhotep was an Andite that could of come from Dilmun.  Maybe this temple could of been the fore plans of the the great pyramid as in the sun or circle beaming from above the room through a circular hole, in the middle of the floor of the triangular room.  Thus creating a triangle and circle in the middle.  Could the the great Pyramid be a replica of this foreword design, a temple in 2ndDilmun, Bahrain??

another interesting link to explore.

 

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_watchers16.htm

Very interesting and could point to Van and the Adamson civilization? But perhaps to the North Eastern Part of Iran rather than the west so much. but could also point to the Lake Van area to. The Vanite, Amadonite and loyal Nodite races.

 

another excerpt from the link which could be a description of Van and his headquarters. By the way according to the UB Van built 1stEden before Adam and Eve and connecting symbol is 3 coplanar circles , the outline on top of the Acropolis Hill (Holy mountain) submerged in 1stEden Cyprus the same symbol can be found in Vans North East Iranian highland Headquarters, or heaven in the highlands. A Holy place in the highlands.
But this doesn't discount the area around Lake Van as that also bears the name of Van and the Amadonites, in that very area. Who had similar legends



 

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_watchers16.htm

then check this

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/Adamsons/index.html

I wonder if Enoch is Van in someway the last link between heaven and earth, the custodian of the tree of life before the builder of 1stEden before Adam and Eve!

and the UB excerpt of Lake Van

 

The Next reminds me of the great Fandors mentioned in the the UB, they could carry in flight 2 people but became extinct. In the following could be reflction of these great fandors. The Fandors became extinct 30,000 years ago. Adam and Eve flew them and Van would of to. The Fandors would of Existed around Lake Van 38,000 years ago and would of been transported 1stEden by Van and Amadon.

 

UB link on Fandors

 

In Sumerian Mythology the Fandors are called the Zu Birds.

Two examples of sanjaqs, the metal bird icons venerated by the angel-worshipping Yezidi of Kurdistan. On the left is one
seen by Sir Austen Henry Layard in 1849, and on the right is another sketched by Mrs. Badger in 1850. Are these strange
icons abstract memories of Kurdistan's protoneolithic vulture shamans?

another excerpt

According to Iranian mythology, the dualistic forces of Ahura Mazda and Angra Mainyu were born to a supreme being known as Zurvan, who symbolized ‘infinite time’. In the Roman cult of the god Mithras, which developed from primary Iranian sources, the concept of ‘infinite time’ was symbolized by a lion-headed deity.

Its worth a thought.


sevens

One of the largest UFOs ever seen has been observed by the crew and passengers of an airliner over the Channel Islands.

An official air-miss report on the incident several weeks ago appears in Pilot magazine.

Aurigny Airlines captain Ray Bowyer, 50, flying close to Alderney first spotted the object, described as "a cigar-shaped brilliant white light".

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As the plane got closer the captain viewed it through binoculars and said: "It was a very sharp, thin yellow object with a green area.

"It was 2,000ft up and stationary. I thought it was about 10 miles away, although I later realised it was approximately 40 miles from us. At first, I thought it was the size of a [Boeing] 737.

"But it must have been much bigger because of how far away it was. It could have been as much as a mile wide."

Continuing his approach to Guernsey, Bowyer then spied a "second identical object further to the west".

He said: "It was exactly the same but looked smaller because it was further away. It was closer to Guernsey. I can't explain it. This was clearly visual for about nine minutes.

"I'm certainly not saying that it was something of another world. All I'm saying is that I have never seen anything like it before in all my years of flying."

The sightings were confirmed by passengers Kate and John Russell. John, 74, said: "I saw an orange light. It was like an elongated oval."

The sightings were also confirmed by an unnamed pilot with the Blue Islands airline.

The Civil Aviation Authority safety notice states that a Tri-Lander aircraft flying close to Alderney spotted the object.

"Certain parts of the report have not been published. I cannot say why," said a senior CAA source.

Earlier this year, however, the MOD declared its intentions to open its UFO files to the public.

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:20 pm    Post subject:

Something a little different

In the following is a study and conclusion that completely coberates the UB regarding the origins of our Solar system. Be come from from the Andronover system, rather than the Milky way.

http://viewzone.com/milkyway.html

http://viewzone.com/milkyway1.jpg


 

Here is an animation
http://astsun.astro.virginia.edu/~mfs4n/sgr/sgr.time.mpg

 

and from the ub



 

and again something different but is related, no doubt the Universes have intelligent life who where created by the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven. Jesus has many flocks!

 

This sighting only happened a few days ago, seems quite intriguing considering the current conversation.

As far as I'm concerned we are entering the end time time line season starting from 1st week of July in under a weeks time. All these occurrences and the confirmation of universal knowledge which scientific study and evidence makes this time quite intriguing.

I would say the season will go for about 70 days. If there was a good time for end days or transition I reckon this would be the time period. This is the time we should be looking out for signs on all levels as this knowledge becomes ripe and realization becomes more apparent.

I think the season is 1st July to the 24th September

Purely speculation but the dates I would look at are. A correction inserted 16thOct 07

1st July 07 Enoch (Beginning 10 weeks, anytime within the first week)
4th July me (beginning of my 40 day test proclaimed n the 4th July 06)
7th July 07 Significant date
14th July Significant date
21st July (Haggai Beginning End time prophecy)
21st August (Jesus birthday) (seventh Week 49 days from 4thJuly)
7th September 07 (The Fathers Way, "The Quest for the Seven commands" was made on 7th February 07 Nostradamus fragment "Seven months in advance it will deliver a nocturnal omen:" the date is then 7th September 07. inserted 29th July 07
8th September (Enoch End time prophecy ends 70 days from 1st July)
11th September (The End of my blended 40 day test with Enoch after discovery for the remainder ends and its 70days from the 4th July.)
16-17th September The ancient places in the Persian Gulf was discovered by Sevens in 06 in the prophecy time line.
18th September 07 (Added 27th June 07) Based on the Quranic/Hadith 40 day test that extended 439 days which ends on this date, just discovered, on the battle of Dajjal in Babel Lud in end time timeline.
24th September 07 (Haggai end time prophecy ends 66 days)
28th September 07 (70days from the 21st July from Haggai prophecy beginning.)

insert 5th September 07

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Another timeline conjunction. 2 Sept 07 New Calculation update   A correction inserted 16thOct 07

In the following Enoch extract you have this
 

• Enoch 92:l2 Afterwards, in the seventh week a perverse generation shall arise; abundant shall be its deeds, and all its deeds perverse. During its completion, the righteous shall be selected from the plant of everlasting righteousness; and to them shall be given the sevenfold doctrine respecting every part of his whole creation,

This could mean in the Seventh week of the new Millennium of Jesus' birthdate August 21st 07 BC
The Seventh week is 1st - 8th October,  the Seventh week in the new millennium.

Here is an update on this timeline as found Baruch

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Here is a speculation image which can be extended to the 7th week in October 1-8th 07 based on the above update.

Now anything can happen and it can be full of surprises, discoveries and events. I have no idea what can occur but I would look out for the fruition of signs that are more definable. As we get closer it should be more interesting.

Now I'm like the next guy trying to workout this mystery don't get upset with me if nothing obvious happens. I only walk in faith and from what I see in the scriptures and other books. I do this because I love my fellow man and want him to be successful in this endeavor not matter who he is or what religion. I just think this year is a good a year as any to have an event like this. However its just my view as there are many views and thoughts.

Well we will see what happens in the time line of things but I think this is the closest we have ever been of something real, definable and measurable. As we see in the ancient books and in the images to light. To me its a real conjunction of truth through the fragments and the path of the journey to the final reality, the final time line image reality as seen by all the prophets in part but pieced together in the end time. This time I believe.

Also I was thinking about the test, all the tests in the Bible I believe were all in metaphor to the final test of mankind. Where Jesus will test us! about how to obtain the "Kingdom of Heaven" concerning end times.

sevens

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:14 am    Post subject:

I thought the following article was fascinating. It appears to be a new attitude within the CIA. I found this development very interesting considering the journey and how its related to attitude. It seems that the CIA want to further a a path of transparency. I find this change of heart quite interesting for such a high level agency in the scheme of things.

 

http://english.people.com.cn/200706/25/eng20070625_387442.html

I just wonder if this development is directly related to the journey and what seems to be appearing. I'm quite inspired by the CIA change of heart.

Is this perhaps a deep desire of the US government to seek a better path which is reflective of this transparency. Like a government coming clean on things perhaps in a preparation.

Remembering that many many people on all levels of Government do have feelings for God in one or another. I feel amongst the majority there would be desire for good leadership particularly when the signs seem to be appearing. I believe the government in the majority would want to prepare themselves from within and seek the opportunity of entering the "Kingdom of Heaven on Earth" through Paradise assistance. I am so sure that the people of the USA and many other countries would love to participate in a Paradise journey with the further opportunity a clearing the slate of burden before perhaps a transition. I feel that with most people who have an personal special infinity with the Father in there own personal way would be quickened at the opportunity of a Paradise ascension in this time for planet Earth.

I am so sure this opportunity is open for all and The Father, Jesus and Melchizedek is right the helm. But its really a matter of faith, that in a logical way would be the only requirement, faith especially in this time and for all times. What better way to being in a test of faith but through our origins in a mystery through the books.

Just makes sense to me, particularly when its written about in the books and about the new book and the books that are opened. The book of life could also be seen as a book of complete knowledge with high standards and written with real precision by the Father, a book that is given to us!!

Anyway, see what happens!


Sevens

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:13 pm    Post subject: A Quranic related mystery related to the end times revealed

Just before I was going through my favourites and I can across this website that I got banned from.

I check it just to see if they lifted the ban. Looks like they lifted the ban so I went browsing and found this post about the Islam view of Dajjal which is the equivalent to the anti Christ.

Here is the link

http://www.imanway.com/en/showthread.php?t=4618

While much of it made no sense to me I was coming to the end when the author began to compile some extracts about the description of the Dajjal.

I read through the extracts and was quite astounded at some of the excerpts and by particularly this fragment found in a Hadith.

 

Im doing some calculations based on the above time period as suggested and Im coming up with some interesting results particularly in relation to the forty day test I declared in July 4th 06. The results that I'm coming confirm the journey without doubt in my view. It also confirms four prophecies all in the same time line and in the same time as the discovery of the ancient places.

This is my calculation in relation to the 40 day test which evolved into a 70 test and now appears to be a 439 day test.

Again

The hidden treasures will spill forth at his command. He will stay on this Earth for a period of forty days; the length of the first day will be one year, the second day will be equal to one month, the third day will be equal to a week and the remaining days will be normal.

The above is most intriguing fascinating considering the the discovery opf Dalamatia, 1stDilmun/Babel and not to mention the Adamson civilisation in the North Eastern part of Iran and also remembering 1stEden discovered by Robert Sarmast.

Because the hidden treasures are the hidden places which mean all the ancient foundations but in the this case Dalamatia and Babel/1stDilmun particular to the Dajjal timesline.

So we have the Hidden treasures, I also noticed that 40 days are mentioned which in my personal experience relates to the 40 day test I declared on the 4thJuly the first week in Enoch's prophecy.

Now if we break the following

"the length of the first day will be one year, the second day will be equal to one month, the third day will be equal to a week and the remaining days will be normal"

So lets see what we have.

Here is the fragment in the Hadith and the calculation in parallel to the test and the discoveries, in the beforehand.

This is just amazing and what's more incredible.

Enoch 10 week judgment began in the first week of the Seventh Month, July. Calculating from from the 1stJuly we come to September11th the completion of my 70 day test. which I blended with Enoch after its discovery because it began on the same seventh Month and within the first week.

These numbers and dates are prefect.

Theres more I could add because I see many other interesting characteristics. But I am not Dajjal thats for sure, just a worker for the Father, Jesus and Melchizedek. The real winning team. Its a team of friends consisting of the highest levels of the Kingdom of Heaven including The Father as represented through the Ancients of Days, Jesus, Melchizedek/s, the Sevenfold Teaching Corp and all the angels of Heaven on all levels of existence. Everyone has there role to play, working together to finish the House, the final seventh mystery and all the players are involved and one day that Seventh Angel is going blow trumpet when it is done. The trumpet being the inauguration of change and transition.

Anyway thats 4 prophecies all in conjunction and in 4 days time we are about to enter the the prophecy season for this planet beginning 1st July 07.

I believe this is the greatest mysteries cracked open related to the Quran and Islam in the journey to the hidden, lost cites that contain the Seven commands in different languages, the final proof in the Quest. All the books are coming together giving up its own pearl.

To me this a huge confirmation as we enter the season. A real boost to the Sevenfold camp.

This is a great journey.

Sevens

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:59 am    Post subject:

Good knowledge to help us understand more.

http://www.truthbook.com/urantiabook/U101.htm#U101_4_5

 

Food for thought and consideration. Considering this FANTASTIC revelatory journey to the ancient places of our origins, the beginning, thats where the end will be.!
yea!

Sevens

Van

Highlighted in Bold are in the following extract I feel point to Van being named Vurana.  His headquarters was in the mountain of North Eastern Iran and had trading and cultural ties to 300 centers of civilisation in all directions from his headquarters.

THE WAR OF THE GODS
* * * * *
The Sanskrit Account of the War of the Gods and Asuras

By Qoais

http://forums.atlantisrising.com/cgibin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=000877;p=1

ALSO FROM THE MAHABHARATA

The Mahabharata (the complete English translation of which comprises twelve large volumes) contains numerous such accounts. The Drona Bhisheka contains a short description of the destruction of another city located on the White Island, Atala, called Saubha.


"Putting forth his prowess, Mahadeva hurled into the sea the paradisiacal Daitya city called Saubha protected by Salwa, and regarded as impregnable . . . these all he vanquished in battle: The Avantis [close to "Atlantis"!], the Southerners, the Mountaineers . . . In days of old, penetrating into the very sea, he vanquished in battle Varuna himself in those watery depths, surrounded by all kinds of aquatic animals." (Drona Bhisheka, Section XI)


Notice it is again Mahadeva who hurls the "paradisiacal" Daitya city into the sea, and even pursues the sea-god Varuna into his own environs in order to vanquish him. Incidentally, Varuna is the Vedic equivalent of the god Poseidon, founder of the civilization of Atlantis in Plato's account--and the Danavas are "giants" and "Titans" according to a standard Sanskrit Dictionary (Oxford University Press, 1974).


Another aspect of the War of the Gods and Asuras is given in the Harivamsa (ch. 56) in which Asura Maya (the designer and architect of Tipura) himself carries out an extensive bombardment of his enemies (Europeans?) from the heights above in his vimana while the remainder of the battle is carried out by foot soldiers on the ground. This by no means exhausts the Sanskrit accounts of the legendary battle. It is definitely a favored theme in ancient Sanskrit literature.


A question has come up regarding how the inhabitants of India could have been familiar with Atlantis and the problems it created for Europeans--being so far removed in distance. Others have even suggested that Sri Lanka might be "Atlantis". Such an hypothesis is unnecessary, the answer being very simple.

I believe the above is about Van as in Vurana and the distant reflection of the lost city of 1stDilmun but also is a reflection of the lost city of Dalamatia which was contained in the 1stDilmun legends.  Its a double reflection of the times of Old Dalamatia and the politics of the fall of the Sons of God in Dalamatia with Van as the leader of the group of the Sons of God who disagreed with the Lucifer manifesto. We find that due to Tectonic plate movement Dalamatia went down in one night by a tidal wave.  However in today's timeline 1stDilmun could be the perpetuation of the Atlantis story.   Because of the flooding of 1stDilmun around 8000 - 10,000 years (maybe more recent, we have to find that out) we find that the legend of Dalamatia perpetuated through the 1st Dilmun legends of a paradisiacal place and thus 1stDilmun by default became in the minds of people closer in the timeline as the places of the Gods in association.  Yes, true but remember 1st Dilmun was built by the fallen Sons of Gods.  Somehow I feel the Atlantis legend is all tied up in these places and describes the break down of the Gods over time where the city of Atlantis went down in one day and night.

In the eons of time and with the sharing of knowledge throughout different cultures Vans name and his story has still perpetuated and still perpetuates through the books of Eastern religious thoughts as expressed in the MAHABHARATA.  Maybe, Plato somehow perhaps adopted the actual Atlantis from this book.  I'm sure he studied all things including eastern thoughts and legends, even in his time as we do today.

Here is the highland headquarters of Van in North Eastern Iran and is described quite clearly and actually tells us where to look for the vestiges of the the Vannic headquarters.  The area is symbolized by a triangular plain hidden in the highlands, 3 co planar circles is the Vannic symbol or ensign high on a mountain.  Van was the custodian of the tree of life before Adam and Eve arrived and actually built the 1st Garden of Eden of Cyprus.  This is indicated by the 3 co planar circles found on top of the Acropolis Hill submerged in the Edenic Plain of Cyprus.

..http://www.dalamatiacity.com/EarlyDataImages/questi5.html

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/Adamsons/index.html

Then if you look at the dimensions and shape of Babel and the walls and perhaps canals that ran to the sea you can see it fits the general layout of Atlantis including the circular foundations of Babel with could of had a circular canal system within the tower precinct

Babel

Plus you will find much information about Varuna in the Avesta and Iranian legends. The Ahura Mazda or secondary midwayers come from North Eastern Iran.

"Putting forth his prowess, Mahadeva hurled into the sea the paradisiacal Daitya city called Saubha protected by Salwa, and regarded as impregnable . . . these all he vanquished in battle: The Avantis [close to "Atlantis"!], the Southerners, the Mountaineers . . . In days of old, penetrating into the very sea, he vanquished in battle Varuna himself in those watery depths, surrounded by all kinds of aquatic animals." (Drona Bhisheka, Section XI)

Mahadeva hurled into the sea the paradisiacal Daitya city called Saubha
Reflections of the sudden destruction of Dalamatia due to Techtonic plate submergence that created a tidal wave and destroyed the city.

protected by Salwa, and regarded as impregnable
It had a wall protecting the city, similar to the 40ft wall of Dalamatia which can be seen in the images of Dalamatia.  1stDilmun had the a similar sea wall and canal system.

Dalamatia

these all he vanquished in battle:
The destruction of Dalamatia was not long after the revolt of the fallen Sons of Gods.  1st Dilmun was built by the fallen Sons of Gods due to the destruction of Dalamatia and the revolt of the local inhabitants, the fallen ones had to relocate..

In days of old, penetrating into the very sea,
So we are talking about the days of Old, very old days.  Like in the days of Dalamatia in true reflection.  This also applies to 1stDilmun as it held the legend of Dalamatia there first place.  When there was peace.  1stDilmun was flooded, it was a slow process over time.  Also the layout of 1stDilmun seems to be built on a peninsula which ran parallel to the coast running North/South virtually surrounded by water.

Babel

The Avantis [close to "Atlantis"!], the Southerners, the Mountaineers

The battle included the Avantis.. vantis or is that another reflection of Vanites who where in conflict with the fallen Sons of Gods The fallen Sons of Gods did come from the South while Van when he departed the city after the fall when to the North and built up his own civilisation who became the Vanites and came down from the North, the mountainous area, the Van headquarters as in the previous images of North Eastern Iran..

Eventually after the fall of the Sons of God there was conflict between the Vanites and the Fallen ones when Dalamantia was destroyed and brought the ones in conflict, in the area to watery death, including the city and all the inhabitants.

Varuna himself in those watery depths, surrounded by all kinds of aquatic animals."
Obviously through the UB account Varuna or Van did not die however some of his people may have gone down in the great flood of the area and may have been in some conflict whether it be the Vanites or the conflicting local inhabitants against the fallen Sons of Gods.

Mahadeva
Not the word Deva with in the above word.  The word Diva is associated with the Ahura Mazda who are united now.  But it is obvious in the days of old there was war in heaven where a city was destroyed.

When 1stDilmun was flooded due to rising sea levels many of the craftsmen went to Egypt and brought along the legends of there former home which included the reflections of Dalamatia, the true first home..  This is what the Egyptians priests preserved and the Andite thoughts of divinity which is reflected in Egyptian religious thoughts.  Plato comes along in his research and hears the story and reflects this legend which becomes the story of Atlantis which is in real truth all about Dalamatia. through1stDilmun by proxy.

a link I found interesting

http://www.atlantisquest.com/Asura.html

The actual Persian Gulf is the ocean/sea to the west, the crescent sea if standing in Iran or looking from the east where this information was recorded.  Northern Dilmun like Atlantis is built away from the sea and does have canals that run to the sea.  The foundations of Babel is circular and was a major commercial center like Babel in 1stDilmun.  Looking at the images of Babel it is possible that a circular canal system may have been constructed there.  The foundation look large enough to enclose a circular city that was feed trade from the sea thorough the canals as seen in the images.

The city and the surrounding areas was protected by a sea wall that was built in conjunction with rising sea levels where the city was like, a city in a sea effect, a place of water.  The city of 1st Dilmun was built on a rectangular peninsula and is evident by the walled enclosure to the North of the city like in Dalamatia.  It was surrounded by water but it did have grounds and agriculture and civilisation to the North and the South of Babel, the main center on the peninsular or isthmus.  It would of been seen as the City of the Sun!

Actually it was the following of the Tipura, the white island and its longitude as suggested that led me to find 1st Susa and Babel/1stDilmun back in Sept 16-17th September 06.

a little more,

In the following in my is descriptive the ancient cities in the Persian Gulf particularly of Dalamatia. and 1stDilmun.

Then Mahadeva, terrifying the very gods, and making the very Earth tremble, ascended that car resolutely . . . When that boon-giving Lord, that despeller of the fears of the three worlds, thus proceeded, the entire universe, all the gods, O best of men, became exceedingly gratified . . . having ascended the car [Sankara], set out for the Asuras . . . to the spot where the Daityas are!

When the boon-giving Brahman, having ascended the car, set out for the Asuras . . . towards that spot where triple city . . . stood, protected by the Daityas and Danavas . . . The triple city then appeared immediately before that god of unbearable energy, that deity of fierce and indescribable form, that warrior who was desirous of slaying the Asuras. The illustrious deity . . . sped that shaft which represented the might of the whole universe, at the triple city. . . loud wails of woe were heard from those cities as they began to fall . . . Burning those Asuras, he threw them down into the Western Ocean. Thus was the triple city burnt and thus were the Danavas exterminated by Maheswara . . . (Karna Parva, Section XXXIV)

I don't think this about the Atlantis Ocean at all.  I think all beliefs about the Atlantis in the Atlantis is just a recent fable and cannot be substantiated in real discovery of the so called land mass in the Atlantic.  It bares no real results and any results or peculiarities can be explained.  Particularly through the books of religion notably the UB and all associated books.

The above is not about the Atlantic that's for sure.  It about the stories and the people that came out of this e cities and the record of its demise.  Looking at the images in the Persian Gulf  there is more evidence pointing to these cities particularly Babel in recent times than anything that can be seen in the Atlantic.

I mean to say the above comes from India to East and actually points to West, to the Persian Gulf, to the cities.  Atlantis.

Here is a little something from Nostradamus.

35
For the free city of the great Crescent sea, (Free city = Dalamatia, Persian Gulf, the submerged ancient places.)
Which still carries the stone in its stomach, (the quest and discovery of the 7 commands)
The English fleet will come under the drizzle
(A flashpoint situation near Dalamatia and the British coming into the knowledge of Dalamatia)
To seize a branch, war opened by the great one.
An activation occurred as the knowledge of the ancient places was revealed to both sides at the time.

When you look at Dilmun from its extremities, from North to South covers a distance of 60km.  We know through the UB rendition that the Priests of Dimun lived to the South of Dilmun while perhaps the Northern Section of 1stDilmun was occupied by the more commercial orientated as seen in the construct of Babel and its canals.

1st Susa

another link regarding the Puranas which I believe are reflections of the Van rendition of the planet from its origins and all the politics in that time and over differing timelines and periods.

Here is super long thread on the Puranas in English.

http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2437813901931210519/posts/default

More strange anomalies in the Persian Gulf 28th June 07

Click here

Sevens.

The Dal lake, the first evacuation place of Van with the tree of life, reflective of the Banyan tree

The Dal Lake Study

posted 06-28-2007 08:11 PM         

quote:

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Dalamatia was supposedly built 500,000 years ago, not 15,000. The earth was different back then. I think those wealthy Arabs would have investigated the gulf by now,

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Yes I know that and it went 150,000 years ago Submerged because of a tidal wave.

Thats when 1stDilmun was built.

The UB even mentions that the vestiges are still there in Persian Gulf.

We also now that Dalamatia emerged again thus demonstrating the Persian Gulf was dry at some time period.

Could it be that if the images are correct that Dalamatia was further to the south and the two cites one of which I think is Dalamatia could be the two earlier cities that was built after the fall of Dalamatia.

Referring to the UB

PAPER 77 - THE MIDWAY CREATURES, Oct 19 2000

 

quote:

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* line 96: The elaborate records left by the Sumerians describe the site of a remarkable settlement which was located on the Persian Gulf near the earlier city of Dilmun. The Egyptians called this city of ancient glory Dilmat, while the later Adamized Sumerians confused both the first and second Nodite cities with Dalamatia and called all three Dilmun. And already have archaeologists found these ancient Sumerian clay tablets which tell of this earthly paradise "where the Gods first blessed mankind with the example of civilized and cultured life." And these tablets, descriptive of Dilmun, the paradise of men and God, are now silently resting on the dusty shelves of many museums.

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So when I read this part "first and second Nodite cities" Im thinking are the two nodite cities referred to in the UB the cities in North Eastern Persian Gulf.

What I think is Dalamatia could be the 1st Nodite city. Perhaps!
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia/Dalamatia2_thumb.jpg

and what I think is Dilmun/Babel is the 2nd Nodite city?
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/babel3_thumb.jpg

Also I was very intrigued by this image.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/persian/persian_gulf12.jpg

and

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/persian/persian_gulf11.jpg

To me it fits the description of the of the first temple of the father in Dalamatia. It certainly looks like a very accurate imprint of the foundations.

Here is an Urantia reference to the chambers about the first temple.

PAPER 66 - THE PLANETARY PRINCE OF URANTIA, Oct 19 2000

 

quote:

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* line 63: The city was laid out in ten subdivisions with the headquarters mansions of the ten councils of the corporeal staff situated at the centers of these subdivisions.

(So if you look for the centre most of each subdivisions you should find the headquarters for that division! Each division was under the custodian of 10 corporeal son. While the main head 2 Sons of God was at the temple heaquarters.

I wonder what the other 2 chambers around the temple was used for? continuing.)

Centermost in the city was the temple of the unseen Father. The administrative headquarters of the Prince and his associates was arranged in twelve chambers immediately grouped about the temple itself.

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Now compare those chambers about the scollaped shelled temple outline.

It appears that a canal ran through the complex and I could see how a circular temple could exist within the enclosure.

again
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/persian/persian_gulf12.jpg


The long walls could the dividing of the division boundaries? hopefully they are real and not some boat wake. But I see no signs of boats like further to the west. At one intersect there is a 5 point intersect I would say that would be coincidental for it be a boat.

Then you have the triangular enclosures further to the west and all kinds of subdivisions.


If they are walls I would say they would be 40 ft tall.

Maybe after the fall the Fallen one went to the East more towards Iran and then went North to build the 2 Nodite cities which is not that far. But then again what is a close distance?

Anyway its something else to consider as we see more things, makes us contemplate further possibilities in light of what we see and how it matches.

Sevens

[ 06-28-2007, 09:22 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:18 am    Post subject:

Yesterday

I was looking around the Persian Gulf to see if I could find any more anomalies. I noticed the wake of large container where could see the ship and its characteristics.

As I was in the Southern regions of the Persian Gulf I ventured more to the west. I was remembering in previous posts where I posted a link that to some research that the Persian Gulf was dry at around 15,000 BC. I remembered the diagrams that where drawn of flow through lakes in the image. So in the back of my mind I was interested to see if I could find signs of human inhabitants near the river gorges carved out during this dry period in the Gulf.

As I beamed in on the area I started to notice what seemed to be a walled divisions, immediately I was suspect of boat wake. But I noticed there were no boats around and the what seemed to be walls ran for 60 kms and where consistent. I thought they could be oil pipelines but normally they are very straight and uniform and you could tell.

As I perused further into the area I came across this image


http://dalamatiacity.com/persian/persian_gulf9.jpg

I was suddenly reminded of UB descriptions of the the first temple of Dalamatia, Being a circular temple with 12 chambers around it

I looked further at the area and noticed the exact description as in the UB


http://dalamatiacity.com/persian/persian_gulf15.jpg

I re read the description of Dalamatia city and the temple and was amazed to see the same things as described in the images particularly about the circular temple with the 12 chambers about it.

In this link is compile of pictures I put together which some of my thoughts.

I thought this was to important not to investigate and definately brings a review of the location of Dalamatia.

http://dalamatiacity.com/../persian_gulf/index.htm

If the images are a true reflection of the sea floor in that area to me this is a great discovery. However, the Dalamatia I thought was maybe one of the two earlier Nodite cities built after the fall of Dalamatia as mentioned in the Urantia Book.

I'm in this, in between stage of changing my position of the location of Dalamatia.

Also consider we are 3 days before we are in the time line of prophecy season timeline begins and now we are confronted with this. Another potential discovery of an ancient city. Combining all the discoveries in like the discovery of the "1st Susa" The three cities! that become one. In context of discovery and relevance.

Most interesting and intriguing.


Also this location is 120km from Iran so its in international waters. Permission would not be required. The discovery and the investigation of 3 major sites in way to big for me. It really needs an UN effort in this.

I also feel that the physical discovery of these places would not be required to transition to occur. We know about it in our own conscience and that is the main thing.

Enjoy the research. Again what you read you can see. I think its real but some one has to go there.

Incidentally the house of Fad should lay in one of the major headquarters of one division or it could lay in one of the chambers of the temple. The House of Fad was a library that held 2,000,000 records. Fragments of writing on stone slabs should still be there, I believe we could find the "Seven commands" there. That would be an astonishing find. Then we would learn more about there times then and what was observed and what life was like and perhaps a record of the fall and the commentary. No doubt Fad could write in the same logic as us. Being a Son of God.

Wouldn't that be something records of daily life from over 350,000 years ago. However I'm sure much of it would be destroyed. But the stone slabs may still be there. Also being destroyed by a tidal wave much of the stone slabs would still be entombed in the mud that filled the chambers.

This new place and its incredible shape and parallel to the record is amazing.

Anyway enjoy the link.

http://dalamatiacity.com/../persian_gulf/index.htm

I must say if the images are true after further investigation then my position has changed on the location of Dalamatia and its lands. Its hinterland was about 200 miles. So that whole are would of been inhabited and cultivated.

Sevens

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2007/westkennett/westkennett2007.html

Images George Latham Copyright 2007

West Kennett Long Barrow, Nr Avebury, Wiltshire. Reported 28th June.
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com
© 2007 George Latham

No worries bro

This is a huge blessing and and so fitting considering the time line and the current conversation.

How majestic is the Fathers temple within the enclosure, the walls and how about those 12 chambers or whats left of them. How majestically do they stand out.

This is beautiful from what I can see in the images and from I can read. Its a huge place and understandably so. Being in operation for 350,000 years which went down 150,000 years.

Glory be to the Father Wow! Ive been thinking about it the whole time! This truly an outstanding find considering the whole journey right from the beginning. I just praise the Lord and thank the angels for there help and the Sevenfold scheme, right on! Im sure this and whats behind it will end the battles of all battles where truth will arise and be bountiful for mankind. Good!

Im pretty keen to discover the "house of Fad" and find what left of the records. If you could find the records and piece them together including the the language. You would virtually have a written record beginning from 500,000 - 350,000 years. Would that be interesting! The from Dilmun/Babel you may be able to find records from 150,000 years to perhaps 10,000 years ago! However Im not sure how much would be there.

The house of Fad was destroyed before it went down in a tidal wave I feel only the stone tablets would still be there. But that would be something. A deciphered record from 500,000 years right up to today.

That all the books of today and the this ancient record including the UB would be like some kind of Epochal Bible or something. That would make logical sense. Knowing this with todays understanding through the UB truth would be only logical. This would complete our knowledge. It really depends on the records thats left. I'm sure the angels would of help to preserve some.

Anyway its great to find this as the last pieces of the puzzle that has been on the journey for so many years. Truly remarkable considering the first links to you. To me this journey is like the oracle before the ark of the covenant in the Holy of Holies as testament of mankinds efforts to bring about the truth for the future!

When I look at the temple and the 12 chambers is like looking at the seat of justice and we are 3 days away from the time line for 70 or so days. Don't you find it interesting thats this occurred 4 days beforehand!

I think the next few months will be interesting to say the least.

Also finding this place makes all the pieces in the UB fall into place.

Its funny I was reminiscing of some old research insearch of Dalamatia in 05

I made 3 options of where Dalamatia could be. Here they are

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamantia_option1.htm
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia_option2.htm
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia_option3.htm

IId say option 1 and 3 proved to quite fruitful and fairly accurate in some ways to the search. It was like where is it with options and going along the journey proved quite successful in two options so far. Even though I was a little out but close. Even then, the hunches where right due to the bidding of the father in fascination of the UB.

Anyway all the best, its been great and a truly magnificent journey.

sevens

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:20 pm    Post subject:

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/persian/persian_gulf26.jpg

The Justice seat of Judgment this would be the domain of the Ancients of Days being a temple of the Father, the journey to how we got to the Justice seat is the ark of the testament or the oracle before the ark of the covenant!

Like in the second temple. In type to this journey in the rebuilding of the temple of faith!

These are the promises of our heritage coming to bare. This affect every house and every chamber! from the chambers of power and glory!

sevens

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:56 am    Post subject: Bush and the end days

I found this interesting article


http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/062907J.shtml

 

Interesting, I suppose you can tempt the spirit without getting your hands burnt.

sevens

Here is an image of the layout of the Fathers temple within what seems to be a triangle, shape of the city.  Dalamatia City was recently discovered on the 28th .  This symbol seems to relate to the same symbol found in the pyramid.


http://www.dalamatiacity.com/persian/persian_gulf17.jpg

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/../persian_gulf/index.htm

In recent discoveries that have come to light in the last few days.  I believe this be the location of Dalamatia.

Unless some one can prove otherwise with convincing evidence I believe this location to be Dalamatia.  All the information that we know about the Dalamatia seems to fit.  To me it feels like the last piece of the puzzle.

This recent find is very significant in the scheme of things.  It seems incredible considering the timeline that my research was corrected regarding Dalamatia before the timeline that began today.  Pondering on all that has been said I find it truly amazing that that we see the temple with the 12 chambers.  Is this the mercy seat or does mean that we are staring at the domain of the father for the first time in the journey.

Like staring down a barrel.  Is everything that has been discussed since last year coming into fruition through the journey of the ancient places.  Does the discovery of this alone confirm all that has been said and in the perfect timing we see the places of Dalamatia.  Discovered right before July1st.  It was an judgment process that led to the 2 submerged cities to the North Eastern Persian Gulf.

Incidentally since the discovery of Dalamatia in the Southern Persian Gulf.  Ive had to name the previous of what I thought was the location of Dalamatia.  So I called it "Tipura"  Tipura/Dilmun and the Babel site Babel/Dilmun.  Tripura = "The three cities that became one" The triple cities.  Name is from Eastern Origins in the MAHABHARATA.  There is a character that is mentioned in this book called Vurana.  However just recently I realized that Tipura Dilmun is 1st Susa

Here is an excerpt of an analysis from a researcher.

 

The above I this believe is all about the demise of Dalamatia and Vans involvement to the Saga.  Thats what I feel is reflected in the Above Book.  I feel has all the characters, The displeasure of the Gods through tidal that destroyed the city, Van being the loyal and the other forces.  Like a reflection of the rebellion where eventually the city was destroyed.

Here is a post I did

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/urantia-clues9.htm#Van

Also the cities discovered in my opinion are the two Nodite cities as mentioned in the UB as in the highlights.

 

So in lieu of this I called the city "Tipura/Dilmun" still maintaining Dilmun for both as both Dilmun cites where known in  those days and who perpetuated the stories, legends and reflections of Dalamatia in there religions and myths.  However, these very two cities and its inhabitants became known as the bright places of the Gods by later populations in other lands (being related) These earlier civilizations went into the pages of history, they left us there heritage mainly through religion with the help of the Angels who had foresight and made possible for stories like Plato and his Atlantis rendition to be published and other books of history which was preserved and  maintained through the ages.  Same thing with all the books of religion of different cultures.  Embedded are the pearls of unity that forms a complete picture through mystery and discovery on the run.  How perfect is that!  Its only revealed at the right time and thats is exactly what this journey has been all about.  However Tipura/Dilmun is really 1st Susa as I discovered.

Man had to find it himself and piece the mystery together and the Father gave him a good hand through a great new book, the Urantia Book that unifies all the books through a fine discovery for the future of mankind. a place where mankind has never been to not even in a leap for better of step.

This is a Stargate adventure which is real and true and measurable even in this work.

And still remember the circle in the triangle symbol found in the plug if the passageway of the Pyramid .  I feel I see that same shape surrounding the Fathers temple as being the circle in the triangle.  The symbol that Imhotep probably left there in the great Pyramid led straight to the fathers temple of Dalamatia.  That I believe fulfilled that mystery of the Great Pyramid.  Also this fulfills scriptures about this pyramid in the Bible.  You can see the how this mystery began in previous posts and where it ultimately led to.


http://www.dalamatiacity.com/persian/persian_gulf26.jpg

This also means a completion in my search for these places particularly Dalamatia and it was delivered 4 days before the timeline that I'm predicting.

Also I feel I have also fulfilled and cracked a mystery in one of the Hadith in the Quran

check this out.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/urantia-clues9.htm#mystery

This was quite intriguing and in direct parallel to this current time.  This 40 day test ended up being a 439 day test and four days ago Dalamatia City was discovered.

Don't you find that interesting? and all the talk about transition and change.  Just the site of the fathers temple already lays a platform for Paradise to respond.  Like in the Seventh trumpet blown by the Seventh Angel.

We must be close now unless there is more to reveal along the way, which I'm sure there is as we go down the timeline.

Also remember that transition is not dependant on going there to find the "Seven commands"  This may be reserved for a later date to a another world.  Just the fact that we see these images does allow the Paradise to reveal themselves.  Paradise is presenting there case just by the site of the temple verifying the  information that led to the discovery, the greatest in the world.   In truth that temple of the Father no matter how damaged it is, is still active and still operates in the spiritual world

Its just like was Daniel prophecies, "The stone cut out of the mountain will fill the whole earth"  I never knew what that meant but I know now it means the the rediscovery and recovery of the Seven Commands in Dalamatia and perhaps endorsement.  A real wake up call for mankind that brings us back to the basics.

Anyway people on all levels starting from today 1stJuly07 should be vigilant for the next 70 days least until th 28th September or around that time.  IId it be a good time to get in touch from within..... more so!!

What happened in the last few days I never expected, I thought I was right on and then this came up and just amazed me, then I had to rethink what I thought??  I was the temple and the 12 chambers that was convincing for me and seeing the division about the city and throughout the hinterland which could be 100 miles.

Lastly I just thank the the Father and Jesus and all the Melchizedeks and the Sevenfold teaching scheme and all the student visitors from Havona and other vast reaches of the universe.  Mind you I don't see them  but I feel them and within my spirit to the Father I rejoice when I find another discovery no matter how small it is and all thumb up and praise to the lord and thanks giving and thats what keeps me strong in the search of the Paradises on earth.  I'm alone and when I find these discoveries its sharing with angels and then the world.  its like a football game around here most of the time, me with vigor firmly stating ....Right on Father..... kick goals, goal, thats the spirit, glory to you, Another one for the Sevenfold team! yea!.  Its a real laugh in retrospect but I'm sure we all have a laugh. ahahahahaha!!  But then there are some great highlights in discovery and revealments and wondrous discoveries, most of the time I sit here and just be amazed at we have covered in the stone upon stone and precept upon precept work and thats exactly what its been.  The whole time form its beginnings!!

Also not that Babel/Dilmun has the same design as Dalamatia

Here is an image of the circular foundations of Babel/Dilmun within what seems to be part of a triangle that has the southern end missing.


http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dilmun/babel_colour.jpg

So from the the trail starts from Dalamatia, then the Dilmun/Babel and the to the passageway of the great pyramid.

incredible

and the the same circle in triangle image on the plug in the great pyramid.  If you look carefully within the the larger Symbol another smaller circle in triangle symbol exists, a double symbol.



all the best
sevens
 

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 11:05 pm    Post subject:

Well its the beginning of the prophecy season 1st July 07 in amongst the greatest discoveries in the world. I suppose it all depends on the the Father I now that we are in sight of the temple.

Lets see what happens next in the adventure of all time.

sevens

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:45 am    Post subject:

Consider the parable of the Sower and consider is the seed in the Barn yet?? This has direct relation to Jesus' parable of the Sower and post harvest/Judgment is the seed in the barn yet?

And note all the fruits are harvested and in the barn!!

This is all about Judgment/end days after 24th September..maybe 2007.

To me, if I'm getting this right and I'm spot on. The Father I believe will not waste time and will question Is the seed in the barn yet or has judgment taken place yet? Its like the father questioning the workers, is it done yet are we ready for harvest?

I feel that the unlocking of the mystery into the consciousness of man will invoke the Father to action more so. I don't think the Father would leave a mystery hanging in mid air.

The worst part about it, if this research is spot on, man is not responding and actually, I'm not sure what signs mans waiting for except these great discoveries and the fragments. I believe this is not a free ride for anyone the Father expects man to work the mystery out himself, man does have to work for this transition and to work it out for himself. The reason is because its a test of faith, pure faith in the beforehand. The experience is all to do with learning about the Father and quickening oneself to click on and get on with it in spreading the news. No matter how dumb he may appear to others.

Anyway as far as I'm concerned this test is not a difficult test, its just faith! in him and his operations. The Father has made is it very easy for us and accessible to all mankind no matter what religion he is.

One thing I will say if the church have a do nothing approach and avoid truth as it is appearing, they will get **snip** kicked, really I'm not joking, I feel this is the real of activation of brotherhood for all man. All one has to to do is be honest, truthful, with truth, beauty and goodness.

That's not hard! There is no room for judging others. I have to reflect upon that myself!

Anyway I hope this all works out fine and it actually happens. I'm sick of this terrorism, death and destruction and all manner of evil. I'm tired of it and so is everybody else with the bad doctrine that drives this complete error in mans behavior.

I hope Dalamatia, Babel/Dilmun and 1st Susa will do it in restoration. That's my hope anyway.

This project is so immense and will result in years and years of research in the physical. Its way to big for little ol'e me.

What about some of these wealthy organization who brag about how smart they are in screwing the other guy?? Why don't they finance a living project to the ancient places? However, when it comes to truth they run a mile, running to the hills like the cowards they are! or what about Warren Buffet giving a billion to some unknown guy to see if he could convert it another 3 billion. I could show him how to make in excess of 4 billion in today's terms, virtually overnight. But I'm sure he wont, because that could defeat his whole purpose in life also If I'm right, Money will not have the same value after judgment

Or what about Gates why couldn't he plough a few lazy millions and do something like this or are they afraid or have no real courage because they have much to loose particularly there status in the world if this is right??

Oh well! all we can is have faith in Father that he will network the right people for the job in the way of finance, equipment, production and the whole lot.

Sevens

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:48 pm    Post subject The Birth of a universal child

On a brighter side to the things of the world, my son and his wife had their first child on the 4th July 07 at 3.30am. What a blessing from the highest and particularly on this day, 4th July 07, a day that has much significance in my personal journey to the ancient places and being the beginning of my 40day test. Also consider Enoch was born in the first week of the Seventh Month. 4th July is also a significant day in the USA.

Praise the Father in the highest with all his fine and beautiful blessings.

sevens

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:37 am    Post subject:

ell President Bush is the only person in this current timeline and conversation on the planet that could discover this place swiftly without dragging this mystery out. I figure he has the American fleet right on top and below near Dalamatia. They do have the technology.

It would only take a single command from The President to seek the existence of the anomalies to verify truth.

As far as I'm concerned if the American people in the American Navy in the Persian Gulf fleet would jump out the prospect at being part of an expedition and discovery rather than preparing to go to war. Particularly if the discovery has the prospect of bringing peace and finality to all this death and destruction.

I reckon all the commanders would be totally inspired at this pursuit if it meant and end to war and bring in peace. I'm sure of that. Whats a more gratifying pursuit of this nature than to involve the armed forces in the greatest discovery in the world with real purpose and with "Kingdom of Heaven" guidance. Where normal folk of the armed forces can take part of this glorious discovery. The everyday person of the USA, the people for the people discovering there own origins in the abyss.

Its a maverick move that only the President could only make, only one of leadership and one of great faith could perform this and make it happen! I have faith that President Bush has enough faith to send the command. I believe that would be one of the greatest command of real faith made on the planet. The command of the verification of the city and the recovery of the "Seven commands" The evidence! The proof.

If all this occurs just think of the witness it would give to all other nations. Where the Military would bury there arms and there equipment of war in place to discover our origins for peace.

This is the best opportunity mankind has ever had to put war and destruction behind us! Once and for all. It is a project for Planetary leadership, not for corporations and profit hungry and ego driven entities. This is for the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven, working with leadership of the planet. This is the right stuff, these are things of faith that will make leadership in the future and this is the story that will be a fine example to all future generations of faith.

Oh well lets see how the angels work in there side of the endeavor. I have no doubt that they will be successful.

This is "The Gipper" or "The Cropper" of all things!!

This reminds of some of Nostradamus quatrains

 

Thats right, this big discovery will bring the victory. This victory, relating to the "Kingdom of Heaven" and the ancient places, the test of faith.

Also note that the George Washington prophecy vision began on this day to. The 4th July.

Essentially in my view the prophecy of George Washington began on the 4th July 1777 and is still proceeding but I believe it may be drawing to an end.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/george_washington.htm

here is a comment in the link

 

Remember we are still in the timeline from the July4th 2006 - 2007


regards
Sevens

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:19 am    Post subject:

I was driving to a friend of mine and before I got there I was contemplating George Washington's Prophecy. I was thinking about the 3 perils and the timeline between 1777 and 2007.

The time line is 230 years

Divide 230 by the 3 perils and you get 76.666667 years less the 3 months in each period.

In other words the three perils are virtually 77 years each.

So therefore it could be that the end of the 3rd peril is 2007 in this year according to the 77 year peril timeline.

Certainly an interesting timeline to consider thinking that it began on 4th July and here we are. A day after the day

Sevens

Hi Jimmy.

If I open more threads I start getting distracted and all over the place. I'm a little focalized at the moment.

With the Anti Christ for me its hard to identify, all I know there is much anti Christ attitude around that I feel will be dealt at some stage in the future. I feel it will be more straight forward and the momentum will gather as the final mystery reveals itself step by step to the last days, transition will run and nothing will be able to stop it.

I got to say in my own research and am really quickened to the period. I feel inspired to the possibilities that I see. You know, if the right command was given at the right time this would be over in a short time.

One possibility that I was contemplating this morning was, if President Bush gave the order to search and use Military resources and converted the weapons into to plough shares digging up our origins, the first city, that would fulfill a piece out Revelation Also wasn't there something in Daniel or revelation about a king and a priest somewhere. Now what if that email I sent to President Bush came to light and he gave the order to search and something did actually occur and everything I mentioned came to pass. I'm sure that would fulfill some verses somewhere.

And what if there was something that would cause all nations to one spot, it doesn't need to be a war it could very well be a discovery of a ancient lost city that may actually cause a UN expedition where all nations are involved with the US right there in the waters. That would fulfill a few things in the books.

Now the things is how will be used?? Can someone usurp this?? The attitude in the discovery and how one runs with it. See what happens?

Plus the mention of the Books that are opened, the fragments pointing to it and the path it took in the journey. And then finally the Book of Life was opened, in other words everything was revealed which could mean where the "Kingdom of Heaven" reveals itself.

All these these little pointers and arrows pointing in my mind is all leading to great scenario of discovery and how it happens, foreseen in the beforehand by all the prophets in part. However in the last scene all the parts come together!

Anyway way just some thought to our I think the final construct may happen but that just my idea one scenario out of many.

sevens

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:35 am    Post subject:

Here is where I'm up to in piecing together the City of Dalamatia from information available.


http://www.dalamatiacity.com/persian/persian_gulf45.jpg

More images can be seen here

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/../persian_gulf/index.htm

From what I see, seems to come up pretty right to me. All the fragments seems to reflect what I can see in the images regarding the city.

Sevens

osted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:28 am    Post subject:

Hi Tm

How is it going? I read you first post. I also was intruiged with December 2012 some time ago and grouped some thoughts, ideas and threads together and came up with with what I call the Sphinx riddle.

Here is a diagram I put together and the link.



http://www.dalamatiacity.com/sphinx_riddle.htm

For me it was a fascinating journey in this thread.

I think it was around late 2005 I went along this thread. It around the second expedition to 1stEden when the stone wall was verified.

In this thread I suppose I was trying to find inter connections amongst the many leads and threads I was following. This is way before the discovery of the 3 cities in the Persian Gulf.

There could be relevance. see what pans out. also note there might be some slight inaccuracies in the time periods, it was late at night.

Its interesting looking at the Aztec relief now that we are here. To me it seems to have more meaning and the wave is like the story of the deluge where the tree of life was kept.

Interesting to see the man rowing out to a island/ city to a mountain/temple with sevens stars or things surrounding this temple that housed this precious plant with two witnesses viewing the tree fo life.

How interesting this comes from the lands of the Aztecs!


sevens

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:43 am    Post subject:

To arch michael

 

Have you considered that this one handed book is the the mouse of a computer terminal?

The book must of been written in the hand of the angel given to man or a book written by the celestial family! Given to man to unravel a mystery about himself.

sevens

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:15 pm    Post subject:

What is Gods humans calender?

Good point!

Here I think is a another vigilant day that Enoch seems to point to but I wonder when the year 500 is? or what that actually signifies?

 

Today, downunder is the 14th July see what happens today. Looking around it seems a fairly regular wet early morning. But hard to see a few ETs (for real) at this moment hahahaha!

Anyway it may seem ridiculous to go through these dates but I suppose cannot leave any stone unturned in this journey of the Seventh year.

Sevens

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:10 am    Post subject:

Im not sure Wolfman

Have you got that scripture to what your referring to?

Lets check it out.

All I know the Book of Enoch was studied by the Jewish priests before Jesus and Jesus himself studied the Book where he coined "The Son of Man" term as he saw himself in those Enochial scriptures. Yeah man that where he saw himself! in this day!

So I don't know why Christians have problems with the book, beats me?!

As far I know the current compile of the Bible and its books was finalized by the Catholic Church at the conference of Nice. The very compile that all the churches subscribe to today.

Christian hold the Jewish people with high esteem why cant we read there books and find out a little more.

In revelation it speaks of the opening of books. I would assume the books that John is referring to are the books that people, because of false pride or prejudice, couldn't be bothered reading or at least flicking through. I suppose some guy said "Oh you cant read the Book of Enoch because of some fear based blah blah! blah! using no solid objective foundation at all. Also the ones giving advise on Enoch have not read the book. I'm so sure of that.


Unfortunately many died trying keep safe the Book of Enoch from the persecutions of the church where the last copy was kept with the Ethiopian Christian Church, at the same time the Catholic Church was hunting to destroy the book of Enoch. Why would they do that?? I'm must contain much truth and thank God one Christian Church has sense and protected the book so it can help unravel the great mystery today.

Thank God there was the Ethiopian Church to protect the Book from a faction of the Church.

I agree with ArchMichael (in essence) that some parts of the Body will go through rebuke for not researching everything and studying more about everything that pertains to religion of the past. The Father will dump those parts of the "do nothing but judge away parts of the church" and build his own church. He will dump them all and work with his people who seek the real and complete truth and live by the truth in right attitude.

Also this church is not a church of buildings and required 10% percent, it will be a church of information and personal discovery on a individual basis working with the Father, Jesus, Melchizedek and the Angels and various Seraphim's using all the books that pertain to religion, past , present and future. Again, I agree with Arch Michael that this church will be based on the "book given with one hand of the angel, the one handed book" and also a book "written in the hands of Angels" a new book!! The one handed book could be like your computer mouse. The Internet was foreseen by John and all the prophets, the internet is a fulfillment of prophecy. It is the branches where "no speaks but everyone hears" Like the one handed book. This is also mentioned by St Ephraim 300AD of the eastern Christian Church, the Abnerian/John the Baptists followers/ the seventy regarding the branches. like the branches of information.

Why don't the Pauline followers (todays western Christian church) and look into the works of foundation fathers of the Eastern Abnerian branch of the Body of Christ and see a wider and deeper picture of the Jesus Body. By studying these scriptures you can see how the angels worked with these people in context to what what we have today.

You can already see this in the current progression of the Catholic Church, the Pope seems to be clinging to the past/post of a sinking ship rather than looking forward, beforehand, outward and deeper.

All doctrine and dogma that is not alive and relevant to truth will just go and those who rely on irrelevant doctrine will loose their foundation and become wayward and loose direction. They will loose power in there words as truth reveals itself!

I reckon it will as simple as that.


sevens

Quote:

Noahides are G-d fearing non-Jews who observe the seven laws of Noah, which are obligatory upon all of humanity

Hi I found the whole thread very fascinating. Considering the relation of the remembrance of the Seven laws of Noah by the Noahides. You know these same laws are the reflection of the very "Seven commands" the first moral codes to develop civilization given to man in Dalamatia City, the first place.

I also find this synchronicity completely interesting in light of the "Quest for the Seven commands" The Quest of the Seven commands is the recovery of 2 sets of seven commands inscribed on stone tablets which should lay in two cities submerged of Mesopotamia and Iran in two different languages and script.

Interesting that Noahide Rabbis who believe in the Seven Laws of Noah/Seven commands believe the time is right for the recovery of the utensils of the temple including the ark, at the same time where a recovery of the original Seven commands is proposed.

Also consider the gathering of the Levite people at the second temple.

So in this reality that I present we have three synchronized elements all related to each other but independent of each other and yet converging to the one reality in truth. I also have to say that this represents a convergence of Urantia knowledge as in the cities and its Seven commands and Jewish knowledge and priestly mobilization around the same Seven commands/laws standard, "the Seven commands" The voice of Paradise, the Standard. This is the laws of civilization and the message for those warring! Everyone. The Father in Paradise is bringing us back to the basics.

I find this a very interesting development. I also notice that Iran has been working with the west much more and has backed down from the usuall rhetoric. I'm sure they are observing to, Iran in my mind can have an important role in this as the two early Nodite cities exist in there waters, this would be a double confirmation of the other set of Seven commands in Dilmun/Babel perhaps!

In my mind these events are more powerful than any current event. I really see a conjunction happening of my research and journey to the ancient places and events happening in the Jewish priestly levels. The realties are independent but they are related in theme and the current conversation and we going in the same direction but from different perspectives.

So what if The White House after examination decide to develop a new strategy based on these realities and went with the flow and had a change of heart and direction and decided to persue the verification of the city and then propose a UN expedition with great help and speed from all nations.

As these developments happen in religion in Israel another reality could be happening in synchronicity in the Persian Gulf wrapped around the discovery of the actual Seven commands. Before you know it realities and developments happen in ever increasing speed to a climax. Not to mention the recovery of the Ark of the Covenant.

So then you have..

The Temple utensils
The Ark of the Covenant(Symbolic of the 10 commandments)
The Seven commands(The first ones, The Persian Gulf)
The Gathering of the Levites
The Note that the Messiah is Jesus(From the great Rabbi who passed away)

and not to mention all the books including the UB that led me to this junction.

So far it looks like a convergence.


This timeline could be a very interesting progression

The possibilities could become reality very quickly and the resources are there floating right on top of the city. All it would take is one command from the President, that maverick command, the faith command into unchartered waters. To find peace through discovery and mystery rather than war. A path laid out by the one and only Jesus and the whole retune of the "Kingdom of Heaven"

I think the most incredible thing is if the Ark of the Covenant and if the Seven command stone slabs in the Persian Gulf were discovered by a President in close time period to each other. That would be perfect! What a double confirmation that would be. To me its like two peoples working together to find truth and realization with The Father and Jesus right in the middle of all things bringing all people together.


Sevens

Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:24 am

Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:42 am

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4082679431972911812&q=ancient+civilisations

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc7mkHtuLOs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_He2EGu7pKk

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1819639877788572495&total=43&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=9

Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:03 pm

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=538297875584368796&q=central+asia+civilisation&total=73&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=9

Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:03 pm

I suppose you cant expect to much from these leaders.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1184766024966&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

It will only led to bloodshed and disaster and a loss of money that should be for welfare of the people thats who deserves the money.

Same ole rubbish but a different bucket on a different day, Maybe here could be your Anti Christ.

It appears they are ramping up.

Well it seems to be in prophecy that the King from the North will ramp. It appears to be inevitable. I'm not even sure if negotiations will work. I'm not sure if this diplomatic thing is a simply a charade for time. I'm becoming skeptical of the Iranian leadership at the moment with its intent. It could only lead to disaster. Considering they seek to topple the Lebanese government which will create a civil war.

You have Israel to the South and Hamas being supported by Iran to the South of Israel. It appears to be a ramping up of military hardware along with rhetoric.

Its interesting how Iran are using other people in a destructive way to do there bidding. I believe there could consequences to that from a high level. I sense that Paradise absolutely does no desire warfare and this action goes right against the path of Paradise in spirit.

This is how I currently see it. If the USA moves out, the vacuum will have to be filled and a civil war that may occur. I reckon Iran and Syria will increase their influence and may even invade to share the spoils. The Iraqi government are not strong.

At this time the Iraqi people would have to stand up for themselves and form unity and there own identity or else they will be swallowed up in total civil war which will bring in Iran and Syria and the other middle east states as they would be financing the opposing side.

As thats happening no doubt something will provoke a conflict with Israel. No doubt and then a second front opens.

It seems to me that the leadership of Iran have forsaken the truth behind the Seven commands or else they have there own agenda about them and use for there own rhetoric, perhaps to psyche all the other Islamic nations in a false perception to increase the likely hood of further war. That would be a mistake.

In my mind if they had there own agenda on the seven commands I would suggest it would be good for the US to verify Dalamatia so there is a counterbalance in truth before it all begins coming from an already hostile country.

Its like whoever enters the breach first has the victory. If Iran discover the Seven commands first in the Dilmuns, they will use it for there own purposes. I'm not sure about there motives to be honest or there intent looking at promoting death and destruction through the building up of arms and rhetoric against Israel. I still suggest President Bush should go out there and find Dalamatia City first so then the truth comes to light first as we are witnesses to this journey. Any other discovery is secondary, its a matter of who gets there first.

But if the Iran find the Seven commands first and considering its a religious government they may use it for all attention they would need to get to fulfill there questionable purposes. I'm not sure if they would share it with world without some mileage.

Its a race I think, for the Seven commands it comes down to who finds it first. Iran or the USA or perhaps the UN but I doubt it.

There is no doubt that all these possibilities if they played out does end with Jesus, he has the final say in all this. We all know this. But the Anti Christ could come from who discoverers the Seven commands first, particularly in the wrong hands. In the wrong hands this could provide immense power and influence in the world and the Anti Christ could come from that reality. Those tablets do have influence but with the wrong motive they will bite. The wrong motive is to promote more death and destruction and creating instability in other peoples nations.

This journey may end up Just Like in Indiana Jones, Raiders of the lost Ark. Exactly like in the story.

What makes this different to any other reality of the past is that we know about the Seven commands and the truth behind it first. The countries know whats going on I'm sure of that.

If this plays out Jesus could extend this to see how it fulfills. I don't know. See what happens.

All the best in the End days. No worries we will be fine because Jesus is our friend and Saviour, there is no fear at all. Just good Love for one another, that will be the brotherhood of the Father. While all this happening I feel completely confident in our friend Jesus. He will bring out the truth for the whole world to see and witness while we have box office seats to this ongoing reality before our own eyes. I'm so sure this whole journey is a construct that will be in reply to death and destruction from Jesus and the Universal Paradise Trinity Government which is "The Kingdom of Heaven"

Sevens

In the following is a extract from Paper 195 that I responded to in accordance to the highlights.

I feel its important to the state of play at this time. If I dont post the extract it wont be read. I think this is very important to what the Kingdom of Heaven thinks in this day.

It was written by the Midwayer Commission on behalf of the Ancient of Days, the very same mentioned in Daniel.


 

Quote:

THE URANTIA BOOK

PART IV - THE LIFE AND TEACHINGS OF JESUS

http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper195.html

8. SECULAR TOTALITARIANISM

But even after materialism and mechanism have been more or less vanquished, the devastating influence of twentieth-century secularism will still blight the spiritual experience of millions of unsuspecting souls.

Modern secularism has been fostered by two world-wide influences. The father of secularism was the narrow-minded and godless attitude of nineteenth- and twentieth-century so-called science--atheistic science. The mother of modern secularism was the totalitarian medieval Christian church. Secularism had its inception as a rising protest against the almost complete domination of Western civilization by the institutionalized Christian church.

At the time of this revelation, the prevailing intellectual and philosophical climate of both European and American life is decidedly secular--humanistic. For three hundred years Western thinking has been progressively secularized. Religion has become more and more a nominal influence, largely a ritualistic exercise. The majority of professed Christians of Western civilization are unwittingly actual secularists.

It required a great power, a mighty influence, to free the thinking and living of the Western peoples from the withering grasp of a totalitarian ecclesiastical domination. Secularism did break the bonds of church control, and now in turn it threatens to establish a new and godless type of mastery over the hearts and minds of modern man. The tyrannical and dictatorial political state is the direct offspring of scientific materialism and philosophic secularism. Secularism no sooner frees man from the domination of the institutionalized church than it sells him into slavish bondage to the totalitarian state. Secularism frees man from ecclesiastical slavery only to betray him into the tyranny of political and economic slavery.

Materialism denies God, secularism simply ignores him; at least that was the earlier attitude. More recently, secularism has assumed a more militant attitude, assuming to take the place of the religion whose totalitarian bondage it onetime resisted. Twentieth-century secularism tends to affirm that man does not need God. But beware! this godless philosophy of human society will lead only to unrest, animosity, unhappiness, war, and world-wide disaster.

Secularism can never bring peace to mankind. Nothing can take the place of God in human society. But mark you well! do not be quick to surrender the beneficent gains of the secular revolt from ecclesiastical totalitarianism. Western civilization today enjoys many liberties and satisfactions as a result of the secular revolt. The great mistake of secularism was this: In revolting against the almost total control of life by religious authority, and after attaining the liberation from such ecclesiastical tyranny, the secularists went on to institute a revolt against God himself, sometimes tacitly and sometimes openly.

To the secularistic revolt you owe the amazing creativity of American industrialism and the unprecedented material progress of Western civilization. And because the secularistic revolt went too far and lost sight of God and true religion, there also followed the unlooked-for harvest of world wars and international unsettledness.

It is not necessary to sacrifice faith in God in order to enjoy the blessings of the modern secularistic revolt: tolerance, social service, democratic government,
Page 2082 and civil liberties. It was not necessary for the secularists to antagonize true religion in order to promote science and to advance education.

But secularism is not the sole parent of all these recent gains in the enlargement of living. Behind the gains of the twentieth century are not only science and secularism but also the unrecognized and unacknowledged spiritual workings of the life and teaching of Jesus of Nazareth.

Without God, without religion, scientific secularism can never co-ordinate its forces, harmonize its divergent and rivalrous interests, races, and nationalisms. This secularistic human society, notwithstanding its unparalleled materialistic achievement, is slowly disintegrating. The chief cohesive force resisting this disintegration of antagonism is nationalism. And nationalism is the chief barrier to world peace.

The inherent weakness of secularism is that it discards ethics and religion for politics and power. You simply cannot establish the brotherhood of men while ignoring or denying the fatherhood of God.

Secular social and political optimism is an illusion. Without God, neither freedom and liberty, nor property and wealth will lead to peace.

The complete secularization of science, education, industry, and society can lead only to disaster. During the first third of the twentieth century Urantians killed more human beings than were killed during the whole of the Christian dispensation up to that time. And this is only the beginning of the dire harvest of materialism and secularism; still more terrible destruction is yet to come.

9. CHRISTIANITY'S PROBLEM

Do not overlook the value of your spiritual heritage, the river of truth running down through the centuries, even to the barren times of a materialistic and secular age. In all your worthy efforts to rid yourselves of the superstitious creeds of past ages, make sure that you hold fast the eternal truth. But be patient! when the present superstition revolt is over, the truths of Jesus' gospel will persist gloriously to illuminate a new and better way.

But paganized and socialized Christianity stands in need of new contact with the uncompromised teachings of Jesus; it languishes for lack of a new vision of the Master's life on earth. A new and fuller revelation of the religion of Jesus is destined to conquer an empire of materialistic secularism and to overthrow a world sway of mechanistic naturalism.

Urantia is now quivering on the very brink of one of its most amazing and enthralling epochs of social readjustment, moral quickening, and spiritual enlightenment.

The teachings of Jesus, even though greatly modified, survived the mystery cults of their birthtime, the ignorance and superstition of the dark ages, and are even now slowly triumphing over the materialism, mechanism, and secularism of the twentieth century. And such times of great testing and threatened defeat are always times of great revelation.

Religion does need new leaders, spiritual men and women who will dare to depend solely on Jesus and his incomparable teachings. If Christianity persists in neglecting its spiritual mission while it continues to busy itself with social and material problems, the spiritual renaissance must await the coming of these new teachers of Jesus' religion who will be exclusively devoted to the spiritual regeneration of men. And then will these spirit-born souls quickly supply the Page 2083 leadership and inspiration requisite for the social, moral, economic, and political reorganization of the world.

The modern age will refuse to accept a religion which is inconsistent with facts and out of harmony with its highest conceptions of truth, beauty, and goodness. The hour is striking for a rediscovery of the true and original foundations of present-day distorted and compromised Christianity--the real life and teachings of Jesus.

Primitive man lived a life of superstitious bondage to religious fear. Modern, civilized men dread the thought of falling under the dominance of strong religious convictions. Thinking man has always feared to be held by a religion. When a strong and moving religion threatens to dominate him, he invariably tries to rationalize, traditionalize, and institutionalize it, thereby hoping to gain control of it. By such procedure, even a revealed religion becomes man-made and man-dominated. Modern men and women of intelligence evade the religion of Jesus because of their fears of what it will do to them--and with them. And all such fears are well founded. The religion of Jesus does, indeed, dominate and transform its believers, demanding that men dedicate their lives to seeking for a knowledge of the will of the Father in heaven and requiring that the energies of living be consecrated to the unselfish service of the brotherhood of man.

Selfish men and women simply will not pay such a price for even the greatest spiritual treasure ever offered mortal man. Only when man has become sufficiently disillusioned by the sorrowful disappointments attendant upon the foolish and deceptive pursuits of selfishness, and subsequent to the discovery of the barrenness of formalized religion, will he be disposed to turn wholeheartedly to the gospel of the kingdom, the religion of Jesus of Nazareth.

The world needs more firsthand religion. Even Christianity--the best of the religions of the twentieth century--is not only a religion about Jesus, but it is so largely one which men experience secondhand. They take their religion wholly as handed down by their accepted religious teachers. What an awakening the world would experience if it could only see Jesus as he really lived on earth and know, firsthand, his life-giving teachings! Descriptive words of things beautiful cannot thrill like the sight thereof, neither can creedal words inspire men's souls like the experience of knowing the presence of God. But expectant faith will ever keep the hope-door of man's soul open for the entrance of the eternal spiritual realities of the divine values of the worlds beyond.

Christianity has dared to lower its ideals before the challenge of human greed, war-madness, and the lust for power; but the religion of Jesus stands as the unsullied and transcendent spiritual summons, calling to the best there is in man to rise above all these legacies of animal evolution and, by grace, attain the moral heights of true human destiny.

Christianity is threatened by slow death from formalism, overorganization, intellectualism, and other nonspiritual trends. The modern Christian church is not such a brotherhood of dynamic believers as Jesus commissioned continuously to effect the spiritual transformation of successive generations of mankind.

So-called Christianity has become a social and cultural movement as well as a religious belief and practice. The stream of modern Christianity drains many an ancient pagan swamp and many a barbarian morass; many olden cultural watersheds drain into this present-day cultural stream as well as the high Galilean tablelands which are supposed to be its exclusive source.

Page 2084

10. THE FUTURE

Christianity has indeed done a great service for this world, but what is now most needed is Jesus. The world needs to see Jesus living again on earth in the experience of spirit-born mortals who effectively reveal the Master to all men. It is futile to talk about a revival of primitive Christianity; you must go forward from where you find yourselves. Modern culture must become spiritually baptized with a new revelation of Jesus' life and illuminated with a new understanding of his gospel of eternal salvation. And when Jesus becomes thus lifted up, he will draw all men to himself. Jesus' disciples should be more than conquerors, even overflowing sources of inspiration and enhanced living to all men. Religion is only an exalted humanism until it is made divine by the discovery of the reality of the presence of God in personal experience.

The beauty and sublimity, the humanity and divinity, the simplicity and uniqueness, of Jesus' life on earth present such a striking and appealing picture of man-saving and God-revealing that the theologians and philosophers of all time should be effectively restrained from daring to form creeds or create theological systems of spiritual bondage out of such a transcendental bestowal of God in the form of man. In Jesus the universe produced a mortal man in whom the spirit of love triumphed over the material handicaps of time and overcame the fact of physical origin.

Ever bear in mind--God and men need each other. They are mutually necessary to the full and final attainment of eternal personality experience in the divine destiny of universe finality.

"The kingdom of God is within you" was probably the greatest pronouncement Jesus ever made, next to the declaration that his Father is a living and loving spirit.

In winning souls for the Master, it is not the first mile of compulsion, duty, or convention that will transform man and his world, but rather the second mile of free service and liberty-loving devotion that betokens the Jesusonian reaching forth to grasp his brother in love and sweep him on under spiritual guidance toward the higher and divine goal of mortal existence. Christianity even now willingly goes the first mile, but mankind languishes and stumbles along in moral darkness because there are so few genuine second-milers--so few professed followers of Jesus who really live and love as he taught his disciples to live and love and serve.

The call to the adventure of building a new and transformed human society by means of the spiritual rebirth of Jesus' brotherhood of the kingdom should thrill all who believe in him as men have not been stirred since the days when they walked about on earth as his companions in the flesh.

No social system or political regime which denies the reality of God can contribute in any constructive and lasting manner to the advancement of human civilization. But Christianity, as it is subdivided and secularized today, presents the greatest single obstacle to its further advancement; especially is this true concerning the Orient.

Ecclesiasticism is at once and forever incompatible with that living faith, growing spirit, and firsthand experience of the faith-comrades of Jesus in the Page 2085 brotherhood of man in the spiritual association of the kingdom of heaven. The praiseworthy desire to preserve traditions of past achievement often leads to the defense of outgrown systems of worship. The well-meant desire to foster ancient thought systems effectually prevents the sponsoring of new and adequate means and methods designed to satisfy the spiritual longings of the expanding and advancing minds of modern men. Likewise, the Christian churches of the twentieth century stand as great, but wholly unconscious, obstacles to the immediate advance of the real gospel--the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth.

Many earnest persons who would gladly yield loyalty to the Christ of the gospel find it very difficult enthusiastically to support a church which exhibits so little of the spirit of his life and teachings, and which they have been erroneously taught he founded. Jesus did not found the so-called Christian church, but he has, in every manner consistent with his nature, fostered it as the best existent exponent of his lifework on earth.

If the Christian church would only dare to espouse the Master's program, thousands of apparently indifferent youths would rush forward to enlist in such a spiritual undertaking, and they would not hesitate to go all the way through with this great adventure.

Christianity is seriously confronted with the doom embodied in one of its own slogans: "A house divided against itself cannot stand." The non-Christian world will hardly capitulate to a sect-divided Christendom. The living Jesus is the only hope of a possible unification of Christianity.

The true church--the Jesus brotherhood--is invisible, spiritual, and is characterized by unity, not necessarily by uniformity.

Uniformity is the earmark of the physical world of mechanistic nature. Spiritual unity is the fruit of faith union with the living Jesus. The visible church should refuse longer to handicap the progress of the invisible and spiritual brotherhood of the kingdom of God.

And this brotherhood is destined to become a living organism in contrast to an institutionalized social organization. It may well utilize such social organizations, but it must not be supplanted by them.

But the Christianity of even the twentieth century must not be despised. It is the product of the combined moral genius of the God-knowing men of many races during many ages, and it has truly been one of the greatest powers for good on earth, and therefore no man should lightly regard it, notwithstanding its inherent and acquired defects. Christianity still contrives to move the minds of reflective men with mighty moral emotions.

But there is no excuse for the involvement of the church in commerce and politics; such unholy alliances are a flagrant betrayal of the Master. And the genuine lovers of truth will be slow to forget that this powerful institutionalized church has often dared to smother newborn faith and persecute truth bearers who chanced to appear in unorthodox raiment.

It is all too true that such a church would not have survived unless there had been men in the world who preferred such a style of worship. Many spiritually indolent souls crave an ancient and authoritative religion of ritual and sacred traditions. Human evolution and spiritual progress are hardly sufficient to enable all men to dispense with religious authority. And the invisible brotherhood of the kingdom may well include these family groups of various social and temperamental classes if they are only willing to become truly spirit-led sons of God.

But in this brotherhood of Jesus there is no place for sectarian rivalry, group bitterness, nor assertions of moral superiority and spiritual infallibility.

Page 2086 These various groupings of Christians may serve to accommodate numerous different types of would-be believers among the various peoples of Western civilization, but such division of Christendom presents a grave weakness when it attempts to carry the gospel of Jesus to Oriental peoples. These races do not yet understand that there is a religion of Jesus separate, and somewhat apart, from Christianity, which has more and more become a religion about Jesus.

The great hope of Urantia lies in the possibility of a new revelation of Jesus with a new and enlarged presentation of his saving message which would spiritually unite in loving service the numerous families of his present-day professed followers.

Even secular education could help in this great spiritual renaissance if it would pay more attention to the work of teaching youth how to engage in life planning and character progression. The purpose of all education should be to foster and further the supreme purpose of life, the development of a majestic and well-balanced personality. There is great need for the teaching of moral discipline in the place of so much self-gratification. Upon such a foundation religion may contribute its spiritual incentive to the enlargement and enrichment of mortal life, even to the security and enhancement of life eternal.

Christianity is an extemporized religion, and therefore must it operate in low gear. High-gear spiritual performances must await the new revelation and the more general acceptance of the real religion of Jesus. But Christianity is a mighty religion, seeing that the commonplace disciples of a crucified carpenter set in motion those teachings which conquered the Roman world in three hundred years and then went on to triumph over the barbarians who overthrew Rome. This same Christianity conquered--absorbed and exalted--the whole stream of Hebrew theology and Greek philosophy. And then, when this Christian religion became comatose for more than a thousand years as a result of an overdose of mysteries and paganism, it resurrected itself and virtually reconquered the whole Western world. Christianity contains enough of Jesus' teachings to immortalize it.

If Christianity could only grasp more of Jesus' teachings, it could do so much more in helping modern man to solve his new and increasingly complex problems.

Christianity suffers under a great handicap because it has become identified in the minds of all the world as a part of the social system, the industrial life, and the moral standards of Western civilization; and thus has Christianity unwittingly seemed to sponsor a society which staggers under the guilt of tolerating science without idealism, politics without principles, wealth without work, pleasure without restraint, knowledge without character, power without conscience, and industry without morality.

The hope of modern Christianity is that it should cease to sponsor the social systems and industrial policies of Western civilization while it humbly bows itself before the cross it so valiantly extols, there to learn anew from Jesus of Nazareth the greatest truths mortal man can ever hear--the living gospel of the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man.

I think this is essential to the situation we have now and the thoughts of the Kingdom of Heaven in relation to where we are at and to where we are going along with its counsel and guidance.

Here is a paper that gives you an idea how the Mist High works in the Kingdom of Men as mentioned in the Bible

http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper114.html

There are many many interesting pieces in this paper and to me gives an insight into this journey from personal experience.

and here is an extract from this Paper

 

Quote:

PAPER 92 - THE LATER EVOLUTION OF RELIGION

http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper92.html

7. THE FURTHER EVOLUTION OF RELIGION

Religion can never become a scientific fact. Philosophy may, indeed, rest on a scientific basis, but religion will ever remain either evolutionary or revelatory, or a possible combination of both, as it is in the world today.

New religions cannot be invented; they are either evolved, or else they are suddenly revealed. All new evolutionary religions are merely advancing expressions of the old beliefs, new adaptations and adjustments. The old does not cease to exist; it is merged with the new, even as Sikhism budded and blossomed out of the soil and forms of Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, and other contemporary cults. Primitive religion was very democratic; the savage was quick to borrow or lend. Only with revealed religion did autocratic and intolerant theologic egotism appear.

The many religions of Urantia are all good to the extent that they bring man to God and bring the realization of the Father to man. It is a fallacy for any group of religionists to conceive of their creed as The Truth; such attitudes bespeak more of theological arrogance than of certainty of faith. There is not a Urantia religion that could not profitably study and assimilate the best of the truths contained in every other faith, for all contain truth. Religionists would do better to borrow the best in their neighbors' living spiritual faith rather than to denounce the worst in their lingering superstitions and outworn rituals.

All these religions have arisen as a result of man's variable intellectual response to his identical spiritual leading. They can never hope to attain a uniformity of creeds, dogmas, and rituals--these are intellectual; but they can, and some day will, realize a unity in true worship of the Father of all, for this is spiritual, and it is forever true, in the spirit all men are equal.

Primitive religion was largely a material-value consciousness, but civilization elevates religious values, for true religion is the devotion of the self to the service of meaningful and supreme values. As religion evolves, ethics becomes the philosophy of morals, and morality becomes the discipline of self by the standards of highest meanings and supreme values--divine and spiritual ideals. And thus religion becomes a spontaneous and exquisite devotion, the living experience of the loyalty of love.

Page 1013 The quality of a religion is indicated by:

1. Level values--loyalties.

2. Depth of meanings--the sensitization of the individual to the idealistic appreciation of these highest values.

3. Consecration intensity--the degree of devotion to these divine values.

4. The unfettered progress of the personality in this cosmic path of idealistic spiritual living, realization of sonship with God and never-ending progressive citizenship in the universe.

Religious meanings progress in self-consciousness when the child transfers his ideas of omnipotence from his parents to God. And the entire religious experience of such a child is largely dependent on whether fear or love has dominated the parent-child relationship. Slaves have always experienced great difficulty in transferring their master-fear into concepts of God-love. Civilization, science, and advanced religions must deliver mankind from those fears born of the dread of natural phenomena. And so should greater enlightenment deliver educated mortals from all dependence on intermediaries in communion with Deity.

These intermediate stages of idolatrous hesitation in the transfer of veneration from the human and the visible to the divine and invisible are inevitable, but they should be shortened by the consciousness of the facilitating ministry of the indwelling divine spirit. Nevertheless, man has been profoundly influenced, not only by his concepts of Deity, but also by the character of the heroes whom he has chosen to honor. It is most unfortunate that those who have come to venerate the divine and risen Christ should have overlooked the man--the valiant and courageous hero--Joshua ben Joseph.

Modern man is adequately self-conscious of religion, but his worshipful customs are confused and discredited by his accelerated social metamorphosis and unprecedented scientific developments. Thinking men and women want religion redefined, and this demand will compel religion to re-evaluate itself.

Modern man is confronted with the task of making more readjustments of human values in one generation than have been made in two thousand years. And this all influences the social attitude toward religion, for religion is a way of living as well as a technique of thinking.

True religion must ever be, at one and the same time, the eternal foundation and the guiding star of all enduring civilizations.

[Presented by a Melchizedek of Nebadon.]

Sevens

Report: Iran to provide Syria with $1b for new weapons Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:20 am

http://www.thendtimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=18049#18049

Who knows what and who to believe

Iran denies arms deal with Syria

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-fg-iran23jul23,1,224505.story?coll=la-news-a_section

 

Quote:

Iran denies arms deal with Syria
A spokesman calls the report of a $1-billion pact a 'media ploy' to damage relations between the two nations

By Ramin Mostaghim, Special to The Times
July 23, 2007

TEHRAN — Iran on Sunday dismissed a widely circulated report alleging a $1-billion arms pact with Syria, terming it a "media ploy" meant to poison relations between Tehran and Damascus.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad visited Syrian President Bashar Assad and other allies in Damascus on Thursday, part of an effort to bolster the anti-U.S. and anti-Israel bloc led by Tehran. But Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammed Ali Hosseini, speaking to reporters at his weekly briefing, denied that a secret arms deal was made at the session.

"I should say it is another media ploy against Iran and Syria, and there is no such thing," he said. "During the visit, Iranian and Syrian officials discussed major regional issues including developments in Iraq, Lebanon and Palestine."

He added that Iran and Syria also discussed unspecified "economic and technical" cooperation.

The alleged arms deal was reported Saturday by the Saudi-funded Asharq al Awsat, an Arabic newspaper based in London. The report said Iran would provide Syria the money to purchase weapons if the government in Damascus rejected any peace offer from Israel.

According to the report, Iran offered to fund the purchase of 400 Russian tanks, 24 Russian warplanes and other military equipment.

The report, which cited unnamed sources and was written by an Iranian opponent to the clerical regime in Tehran, caused a stir in Israel, which has contemplated the idea of coaxing Syria away from Iran.

Some Israelis expressed doubts about the report.

A writer for the daily newspaper Haaretz warned that it "should be read with great caution."

Iran and its allies are locked in a rivalry with the U.S. and Israel, which oppose Tehran's efforts to obtain advanced nuclear technology.

Despite the tensions, Iran and the U.S. have agreed to a second round of talks about the security situation in Iraq. Baghdad's Shiite Muslim-dominated government depends on the U.S. military for its survival but shares strong ties with the largely Shiite Iran.

The talks are to be held Tuesday in Baghdad, the Iraqi foreign minister said Sunday.

"I can confirm that the United States and Iran have agreed to meet on July 24th in Baghdad," Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari told the Associated Press in a telephone interview.

Iran and the U.S. each accuse the other of playing disruptive roles in Iraq.

Hosseini said Iran would probably press the U.S. during the talks for the release of five Iranian officials detained in a January 2007 raid in northern Iraq.

The U.S. accuses them of being spies linked to Iran's Revolutionary Guard. Tehran says they are diplomats.

"We will exhaust all our capacity to get them released," Hosseini said.

There seems to be quick arrangements for talks. I hope Iran is serious and does something positive to curb this growing violence and becomes effective in a positive resolve with the US in light of Paradise truth shining upon this planet earth, If they continue to disobey the Paradise attitude of right behaviour towards his neighbor's even his enemy they/Iranian leadership will be in trouble and on the wrong side of Paradise. I know the US is willing to find a positive solution to the war So it really is entirely in the hands of the Iranian leadership at this time, before the day. It is completely unacceptable to Paradise to perpetuate violence upon man and Paradise wants a true resolve, in truth for all mankind.

Like I said in one of those email friendship with your enemy has to begin! This follows the command of Jesus, Paradise Son and it is written in the new law written in the heart. Jesus is the new ruler of Planet Earth!  As found in all the books include the Quran and the Bible and especially The Urantia Book.

I really thank the ancient forefather for there work in this journey, in there efforts they gave us beforehand knowledge of the ending reality. I really thank them from the bottom of my heart. Whilst religion should be used for spiritual growth between God and man its is altogether disappointing for it be used to in a battle mode to rebuff error of interpretation with respect to notions of war that leads to senseless religious wars past and present.

I hope all this helps and the right people are looking into things to make a positive right difference to what we have today.

sevens

Good for nothing Taliban, completely in the opposite direction to that of Paradise. How can the Angels help these Taliban when they walk on the 666 side of last rebellious Son, in the characteristic and attitude.

The Taliban has will continue to bring there own people to very low levels of existence, they are the opposite to civilization.

They will not survive the end time judgment.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-07/24/content_6422696.htm

 

Quote:

The Taliban has extended the deadline for executing hostages for another 24 hours.
·This is the second time that the Taliban extended the deadline.
·Coalition forces have cordoned off a suspected Taliban hideout to secure the hostages release.

A man holds a South Korean newspaper with a front page showing an image of a group of South Korean Christians posing for a commemorative photograph, taken 13 July, 2007, before leaving for Afghanistan. Taliban militants have extended the deadline for their South Korean hostages by another 24 hours.(Xinhua/AFP Photo)
KABUL, July 23 (Xinhua) -- The Taliban has extended the deadline for executing 23 South Korean hostages for another 24 hours until 7:00 p.m. (1430 GMT) Tuesday, a purported Taliban spokesman Yousuf Ahmadi said Monday.

This is the second time that the Taliban extended the deadline for another day and night.

Taliban fighters had threatened to kill all the 23 South Koreans if Afghan authorities failed to release 23 Taliban prisoners before 7:00 p.m. (1430 GMT) on Sunday, but extended it to Monday night.

The 23 South Koreans were kidnapped by Taliban militants on a road in the central Ghazni province on Thursday afternoon.

Afghan and the U.S.-led coalition forces have cordoned off a suspected Taliban hideout in Qarabagh district of Ghazni to secure the release of the hostages.

Meanwhile, Taliban spokesman Ahmadi said militants would execute all the 23 hostages if the troops recklessly carry out a storm.

A South Korean team led by a vice foreign minister arrived in Kabul on Sunday to facilitate the release of the hostages.

The Taliban also demanded the withdrawal of 200 South Korean troops from this country, while the South Korean government said the soldiers would be pulled out at the end of 2007 as scheduled.

Taliban militants have carried out kidnappings in this country over the past two years frequently, and some hostages were killed by the Taliban brutally.

These Koreans look like the nicest and kind people I'm so sad they are in the presence of Evil and misguided people. If these people are executed Paradise will be very displeased.



 

If the Taliban executes the Koreans, The perpetrators one by one through life and circumstance will not live nor will they reach Paradise at all. The alternative to that is personality extinction. All those involved this grave crime of slaughter will be routed out and no one will help them this means the angels will reject to help them. If they murder this would be a very grave sin and they be will be made accountable for the evil actions.

The Angels will organize this! As far as I am concerned Paradise is here with a multitude of Arch Angels and Paradise Sons and are ready to bring into judgement these terrorists and those who glorify these bombings on the Net. It is against the will of Paradise to murder and kill and the time is approaching swiftly and surely.

When Judgment comes all the terrorists especially there teachers will be first to go into the pit, they will have no chance if they keep up with this death and destruction and do not repent to Paradise/Jesus/Kingdom of Heaven for there sins against there fellow world brothers and Sisters. Who are there help rebuild there nation. they will not survive

There sins are very heavy with Paradise.

MAN, I'm so mad!

Why doesn't Iran do something to prevent this flash point, this would be a good action for a change and do something constructive through there Taliban connections <no doubt> and get the Koreans released. That would be a sign of good faith for the world to witness. This is just terrible whats going on.

I just cant believe that these Islamist fanatics could even slit the throat of a man but particularly a WOMEN and not feel something of regret and disappointment and horror. That just spins me out, think of the thoughts of the perpetrator/murderer carrying that evil action and think how dark and merciless his mind would be. This whole planetary evil of terror that we see has to stop somewhere. Surely there must be a final stand somewhere along the line.

What evil is this, it goes to show that man with the wrong information and being misguided is just biggest arse hole I ever seen. Man, in the extreme without Jesus becomes such a evil thing.

Just think what's going on Dafur where they do the same things by the same terror army supported by the Government.

I can honestly see how these perpetrators of evil will not be part of the new world of Jesus. There is just NO WAY!
I would have them in the new world in light of there evil acts of innocent human carnage today.

Gee this is so common, all this evil, its just a dime a dozen. All I can do is write and express.

But I know the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven can do something!!

 

I pray to the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven/Paradise that some Arch Angel Battle Angels commence an operation where the Korean hostages who are held by the Taliban are freed and returned to there country safely. I pray for this to occur in a rapid way, the way I see it. Maybe tonight!

If this is successful Father, I pray for more Kingdom of Heaven/Paradise holy rescue operations to protect the innocent from minds of misguided and wrong thinking people, a threat to the civilization of mankind. Father, this may take a miracle to get these people released but I have faith, well I hope its your will to. I pray this Father to help those Koreans hostages I know they must be petrified and horrified.
 

Well its in The Fathers hands now.

Sevens

I propose a discovery using this



Surely some influential archaeologist can put this together, The places are is accessible and is right in the middle of the Persian Gulf.

Ready to be verified, if verification and recovery can be performed and is according to the research, then everything changes.

Surely there is some archaeologist out there who into to some adventure like Indiana Jones in "Quest of the Seven Commands" The beauty about this adventure is thats its true, and in virtual reality in real time. This is a real thing that affects the destiny of the planet of mankind.

So who has the courage, just like in Raiders of the lost Ark! That was a type to this reality right now! incredible and yet no one hears nor believes and its right there.

Sevens

Yes your absolutely right, it between a rock and a hard place where wrong thinking and error could only lead to this situation.

That what mean that only a miracle could help these people because time is running out.

The situation looks quite bleak with very little way out, I feel its quite a helpless situation in which all I can do is make that appeal to the Kingdom of Heaven for there assistance in the matter. Some might think how silly but why not, we are men of faith and action on the world stage of events. We have confidence and hope in Jesus and the angels who love to work with us because we delight in doing the will of the lord. Right on!

See what happens Wolfman, thanks for your posts I pray a breach between the rock and the hard place.

thanks
sevens

[quote][i]Originally posted by dougweller[/i]
[br]Have I wandered onto some sort of UFO/religious forum by mistake?

Doug's Skeptical Archaeology Site http://www.ramtops.co.uk

http://www.hallofmaat.com
[/quote]

No worries Doug Weller, I completely understand how you feel, for sure no doubt. We will just have to what is verified and recovered from these location, that will provide the proof in the pudding and of the journey to these places through all the books of myth and religion before Christ mainly.

I also believe Doug that is all is verified it will and great expansion for science and religion, harmonized, where the two level can function with harmony and work together. As science has already proved mathematically that we live in a multiple dimensional world, what this journey to these represent is and reveals is the personality and a view of these level of existence.

The eternal continuum that the Books of Maat speak directly about. There are much reference to theses places in the Egyptian Book of the Dead about the Maat. The Maat is really about the first places of the Sons of God who taught man civilisation and of right living through the law of the Seven commands.

What is occurring through my research and discoveries is a revealing of the Gods if the Maat but in this case its Universal Government. This can be seen through all the books and through the "The read about it and the see it experience" Which will be simply be undeniable!

This reality was foreseen by all the beforehand individuals who worked in the beforehand moment and documented it. Its is now that the final reality is piecing together as this mystery comes together through the books and the discovery, like in troy but that test run compared to this.

all the best
dj

Posted - 25 July 2007 :  03:37:20      

No worries Doug Weller, I completely understand how you feel, for sure, no doubt. We will just have to see what is verified and recovered from these location, that will provide the proof in the pudding and of the journey to these places through all the books of myth and religion before Christ mainly.

I also believe Doug that if all is verified it will be a great expansion for science and religion, harmonized, where the two levels in the future can function with harmony and work together in uncovering truth. As science has already proved mathematically that we live in a multiple dimensional world, what this journey to these submerged places represents and reveals the personality of the other dimension of existence where we have a great view of there world through a book that guided me to these places. A world where we go to after death. The only thing that survives. But this view is a matter for personal discovery and faith which is individual. However if verification and recovery can be made that would simply prove all of the above and indirectly it would God and the next world.

This also frees all mankind up from error in bad doctrine and would be a final recipe to the solution of terrorism problem. It would provide a platform that will prove undoubtedly that murdering man on the basis of religion is absolutely wrong. Its in the books mainly the UB, through the verification of the submerged cities places and the message which comes from them through the Seven commands.

This would provide the proof and truth in the message that radiates through all the books about this time. The discovery and the recovery was foreseen but one must be of pure heart and intention. This is where the problem lays, mans intent and motivation!

The eternal continuum that the Books of Maat speak directly about is about this place. There are much references to theses places in the Egyptian Book of the Dead about the Maat. The Maat is really about the first places of the Sons of God who taught man civilisation and of right living through the law of the Seven commands.

What is occurring through my research and discoveries is a revealing of the Gods of the Maat but in this case its Universal Paradise Government. This can be seen through all the books and through the "The read about it and the see it experience" Which will be simply be undeniable!

This reality was foreseen by all the beforehand individuals who worked in the beforehand moment and documented it. Its is now that the final reality is piecing together as this mystery comes together through the books and the discovery, like in troy but that test run compared to this.

I believe this journey and documentation is what is becoming a testament to the ark as seen in the beforehand of discovery and may provide a platform of demonstration in the discovery alone!

all the best
dj

Posted - 25 July 2007 :  04:08:39      

I was looking at the above posts and I came across this verse that I left behind. This was posted Posted - 19 April 2006 : 02:49:50

That was 6 months before I discovered the two Nodite cities "Tipura/ Dilmun which I named because I followed the latitude of Tipura given in an Eastern Religious Book that led to what I thought was Dalamatia City in the same hour I discovered Babel/Dilmun because I knew it was a close distance to what I thought was Dalamatia City at the time as given in the Urantia Book. However in light of the discovery of Dalamatia City in the Southern Persian Gulf, I realized Tipura Dilmun is really 1st Susa

This was the date of the Two Tipura/Babel Dilmuns16 -17th September 06, around 12 midnight

Now what I thought Dalamatia City was wasn't as I found out on the

28th June 2007 where the real Dalamatia City was discovered.



http://dalamatiacity.com/persian/persian_gulf11.jpg


Just take note of the verse in red in the above. The end will happen at the beginning where knowledge will change as in an expansion through discovery. What ever it is the discovery of the first places does represent and end to old knowledge uplifted for new knowledge.

Its meant to be positive but it really depends on man and his attitude but whatever it is and how it plays out these places do represent change of perception and understanding and opens the field of science and religion wider, deeper and with more density which off course will open new pursuits of science and religion but will be harmonised in parallel. Its a good thing for truth seeker alike whether it be in religion or science. All will be measurable!

all the best

dj

Posted - 25 July 2007 :  04:42:54      

But the search goes back even further when I was inspired to search for the other places.

I had 3 options that I was following and looking at the 3 locations where I thought the cities where but due to the primacy of the software at that time I could only go so far.

Here is a link to that search in early 2005

The journey began for Dalamatia and the Dilmuns on
Wednesday, 23 March 2005 7:39 PM
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalmantia.htm

And since then look at all the discoveries along the journey that fairly evenly spaced apart in the timeline of discovery. Also these places have a consistent story line with each other and is consistent to the area of where these places are supposed to be.


Discovered Sept 16-17th 06
Nodite city one <Dilmun/Babel>
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dilmun/index.html

Sept 16-17th 06
Nodite City two 1st Susa
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia/index.html

Discovered Around Fri Jan 19, 2007
..http://www.dalamatiacity.com/EarlyDataImages/questi5.htmlforum/viewtopic.php?p=1199#1199
Adamson Civilization/headquarters of Van
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/Adamsons/index.html

Dalamatia City discovered June 28th 07
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/../persian_gulf/index.htm


I find this quite incredible, this whole journey of faith and inn the timeline and what is written about these places.

all the best
dj