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Hey from my research I think we are in this moment.
Not scare mongering or anything like that. But the discovery of the first cities
are part of this and the indictment is originating from these places.
No crap
THE TERMINAL EVENTS
25:27 -- Then you shall say to them, Thus says Yahweh of hosts, the God of
Israel: Drink, be drunk and vomit, fall and rise no more, because of the sword
which I am sending among you.
25:28 -- And if they refuse to accept the cup from your hand to drink, then you
shall say to them, Thus says Yahweh of hosts: You must drink!
25:29 -- For behold, I begin to work evil at the city which is called by my
name, and shall you go unpunished? You shall not go unpunished, for I am
summoning a sword against all the inhabitants of the earth.
25:30 -- You, therefore, shall prophesy against them all these words, and say to
them: Yahweh will roar from on high, and from his holy habitation utter his
voice; he will roar mightily against his fold, and shout, like those who tread
grapes, against all the inhabitants of the earth.
Jer 25:31-38 -- The clamor will resound to the ends of the earth, for Yahweh has
an indictment against the nations; he is entering into judgment with all flesh,
and the wicked he will put to the sword.
Thus says Yahweh of hosts: Behold, evil is going forth from nation to nation,
and a great tempest is stirring from the farthest parts of the earth! And those
slain by Yahweh on that day shall extend from one end of the earth to the other.
They shall not be lamented, or gathered, or buried; they shall be dung on the
surface of the ground.
Wail, you shepherds, and cry, and roll in ashes, you lords of the flock, for the
days of your slaughter and dispersion have come, and you shall fall like choice
rams. No refuge will remain for the shepherds, nor escape for the lords of the
flock.
Hark, the cry of the shepherds, and the wail of the lords of the flock! For
Yahweh is despoiling their pasture, and the peaceful folds are devastated,
because of his fierce anger. Like a lion he has left his covert, for their land
has become a waste because of the sword of the oppressor, and because of his
fierce anger.
I think the second stage is translation and those left behind will really feel
it, in there souls and the fire within ones soul will be very evident. Everyone
will miss everyone and there will be much sorrow in this event.
Unfortunately, the last rebel may be given more rope, that means a change I
think for the worse. I think the world will make some false alliance in light of
the event but will be broken and may lead to war. But then thats the interesting
part, thats when a great return is predicted and the great judgment occurs.
Those who haven't reconciled themselves see ya later. That was the last train to
Paradise on earth and then great earth changes occur.
There could be variation but this what I feel at the moment.
good luck all!
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Ive been thinking about all those UFOs you see in
the skies I believe are they seraphic transports that can enter in and escape
out of this dimension into the Angelic realm of existence. I am absolutely sure
they here on mass for a purpose. perhaps even rapture in the first stage.
Thinking about these transports, they are made of a different material similar
to Paul's description of another greater substance. In the other realm there are
more elements that make up wider selection of materials. Thats why the metals
that have been recovered are not found in this dimension and are not recognized.
Rapture or translation is necessary for humans for space travel to an
architectural world in the other dimension reality. It is a world that is
prepared for the elect of this planet. Faith Sons of the Father, that can be
anyone who has faith no matter who. The Paradise invitation is open to all who
has faith. Simple faith, faith of a child that is teachable and spiritually
coherent and has desire through inspiration of truth, setting you free.
If this happens in this timing those left behind who never had faith are left
here to deal with everything thats pretty well bad on all accounts with every
nation.
Thats largely due to false sophistry sought after by man given by Caligastia the
last remaining rebel in the spiritual realm. Thats why he was left on the planet
solely to see his final outcome and so that man can see the rebel for himself
and know the truth, for his eyes only.
Some societies in past maybe connected to this and gained knowledge and used the
knowledge for self gain and we see the results like in the state of the planet
and rumors of war going around not to mention all the suicide terrorism.
But then everything comes good for the Father in the end, and everything returns
to him in truth.
All that is hidden is being revealed! said in the Book of Enoch.
Here is some research by a UB researcher about Seraphic transports and perhaps
may give more of an idea about the Seraphic transports we see or UFOs man sees
in the sky.
I do feel is real purpose in them showing themselves more often that not.
I believe they are transports for the elect destination, an architectural world
designed for us. For those who have simple faith of a child and is teachable
with a desire for the truth of everything in love for one another will live the
victory where we will not taste death, we are in the beginning of the end to a
new beginning, wiping the slate clean and beginning again. Right on!.
all the best
Sevens
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Is Massive Impending Doom For Humanity?Quote
8/27/2007 8:06 AM
When you go into your "other world" you loose touch with where you are NOW,
you are not living in the now...there is nothing new under the sun...nothing
that we do not already know in our heart...no big discoveries..
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 281673
AHAHA these discoveries verify the very words in the new revelation for the new
epoch we are about to transition into. This is the sign post in the images. I
cant possibly see how your attitude would be successful in the standards that
have been layed down for the success of mankind rather than the dismal viewpoint
of others.
Just think right here and now you could be passing up the greatest opportunity.
No faith no entry.
All this information has been tested thoroughly with 2 expeditions to 1stden and
verified the wall. Not to mention other sites scattered around the area. The
Persian Gulf places come from the same source. I wouldn't want anyones words to
come back to reflect up them in failure in an actual event. Like wise this could
fails to, to be fair and there is a definite timeline verified in mystery in a
Hadith I cracked. Through the actual journey.
Re: Do You Believe There
Is Massive Impending Doom For Humanity?Quote
When you go into your "other world" you loose touch with where you are NOW,
you are not living in the now...there is nothing new under the sun...nothing
that we do not already know in our heart...no big discoveries..
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 281673
AHAHA these discoveries verify the very words in the new revelation for the new
epoch we are about to transition into. This is the sign post in the images. I
cant possibly see how your attitude would be successful in the standards that
have been layed down for the success of mankind rather than the dismal viewpoint
of others.
Just think right here and now you could be passing up the greatest opportunity.
No faith no entry.
All this information has been tested thoroughly with 2 expeditions to 1stden and
verified the wall. Not to mention other sites scattered around the area. The
Persian Gulf places come from the same source. I wouldn't want anyones words to
come back to reflect up them in failure in an actual event. Like wise this could
fails to, to be fair and there is a definite timeline verified in mystery in a
Hadith I cracked. Through the actual journey.
Hey Seek
Interesting!
The way I see it is Seraph =
Seraphim. But doesn't matter. I suppose we have to see what relation Seraphim
has with Serpentine and if there is any reflection in the scripts.
Just gotta see what happens.
Im not sure whether they are lizards, if they exist at all I reckon there powers
are very curtailed at least from 2000 years ago.
Well least I hope that I'm not bacon and eggs.
Now that would be a thought! hehe
If there is a world conspiracy, I haven't seen it yet. I'm sure there is but I
reckon this thing seen by the prophets was way beyond anything negative.
It seems strange, I have written to concerning leaders for them to wake up and
talked about the places and Paradise with the intent. I even mentioned this
discovery would be a good opportunity for all nati0ons to find truth and stop
war. All kinds of things.
Never got a response from all sides. That was my attempt in world politics
ahahahaha! I never saw a conspiracy like you read. No one just response everyone
must be asleep or they delete allot.
sevens
Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:11 am
Here is information about a sister planet that
has ran the same course as we have with respect to defaults and planetary
rebellion. There is one continent that has really progressed according to
the author. I thought the description of this neighboring planet was quite
interesting.
By permission of Lanaforge and with the approval of the Most Highs of
Edentia, I am authorized to narrate something of the social, moral, and
political life of the most advanced human race living on a not
far-distant planet belonging to the Satania system.
Of all the Satania worlds which became isolated because of participation
in the Lucifer rebellion, this planet has experienced a history most like
that of Urantia. The similarity of the two spheres undoubtedly
explains why permission to make this extraordinary presentation was
granted, for it is most unusual for the system rulers to
consent to the narration on one planet of the affairs of another.
This planet, like Urantia, was led astray by the disloyalty of its
Planetary Prince in connection with the Lucifer rebellion. It received a
Material Son shortly after Adam came to Urantia, and this Son also
defaulted, leaving the sphere isolated, since a Magisterial Son has never
been bestowed upon its mortal races.
---------------------------------------------
and here is the last piece of this paper.
There could be some hints and clues for the future. It could be that the
knowledge about this planet or system could be adopted here in some aspects
after judgment. It seems more advanced than our society perhaps we could
learn some things.
Quote:
12. THE OTHER NATIONS
Although the society and government of this unique people are in many
respects superior to those of the Urantia nations, it should be stated
that on the other continents (there are eleven on this planet) the
governments are decidedly inferior to the more advanced nations of
Urantia.
Just now this superior government is planning to establish ambassadorial
relations with the inferior peoples, and for the first time a great
religious leader has arisen who advocates the sending of missionaries to
these surrounding nations. We fear they are about to make the mistake that
so many others have made when they have endeavored to force a superior
culture and religion upon other races. What a wonderful thing could
be done on this world if this continental nation of advanced culture would
only go out and bring to itself the best of the neighboring peoples and
then, after educating them, send them back as emissaries of culture
to their benighted brethren! Of course, if a
Magisterial Son should soon come to this
advanced nation, great things could quickly
happen on this world.
This recital of the affairs of a neighboring planet is made by special
permission with the intent of
advancing civilization and augmenting
governmental evolution on Urantia. Much more could be
narrated that would no doubt interest and intrigue Urantians, but this
disclosure covers the limits of our permissive mandate.
Urantians should, however, take note that their sister sphere in the
Satania family has benefited by neither magisterial nor bestowal missions
of the Paradise Sons. Neither are the various peoples of Urantia set
off from each other by such disparity of culture as separates the
continental nation from its planetary fellows.
The pouring out of the Spirit of Truth provides the spiritual
foundation for the realization of great achievements in the
interests of the human race of the bestowal world.
Urantiais therefore far better prepared for the more
immediate realization of a planetary government with its laws,
mechanisms, symbols, conventions, and language--all of which could
contribute so mightily to the establishment of world-wide peace under law
and could lead to the sometime dawning of a
real age of spiritual striving; and such an age is the planetary
threshold to the utopian ages of
light and
life.
[Presented by a Melchizedek of Nebadon.]
Im thinking, maybe the Utopian ages of light and life is a
thousand years for this planet. However, I feel for this to happen in the
future 1000 years some change and adjudication to the rebellion has to occur
now.
It could all be a hint for the future and note when Jesus comes back to this
planet similar things will happen on those planets to. It will be a
universal event perhaps simultaneously.
Its interesting that there appears to be a blueprint of societal changes in
the future. Apparently a one family is allotted 5 hectares of land. It seems
like there are no cities as we know them. Apparently its the responsibility
of the family to teach there children religion in the home, apparently there
are no churches as we have here. It appears to be individual religion on
personal basis where there appears to be one truth. Where the family is the
basis of civilization and where it civilization is fermented in the family.
I wonder how something like that would work on this planet? Mind you if no
faith exists on this planet and judgment happens as prophesied it may be
devastating with earth changes happening at the same time. Maybe the elect
and faithful might be very few like 700 million working on Isaiah's 10% that
will survive. Perhaps a similar system to this but in our own
characteristics may be a worthwhile option of government for the future.
I don't know, Ahh just some ideas! In some cases a society like this would
be hard to get used to knowing what life is like here.
All the best everyone!
If we know about this planet then we have a
link to them as promoted by the Ancient of Days. Maybe one day we may speak
to these people and say Hello! and drop by. It may be all possible after
Judgment when the quarantine is lifted.
and remember this recital is here for a purpose from the Ancient of Days
with definite intent.....how does it deliver??
by special permission with the intent
of advancing civilization and augmenting
governmental evolution on Urantia.
sevens
Quote:
Page 2084: In winning souls for the Master, it is not the first mile of
compulsion, duty, or convention that will transform man and his world, but
rather the second mile of free service and liberty-loving devotion that
betokens the Jesusonian reaching forth to grasp his brother in love and sweep
him on under spiritual guidance toward the higher and divine goal of mortal
existence. Christianity even now willingly goes the first mile, but
mankind languishes and stumbles along in moral darkness
because there are so few genuine
second-milers—so
few professed followers of Jesus who really live and
love as he taught his disciples to live and love
and serve
Hi Seek,
Thank you for your wonderful words there, I really felt touched and blessed,
thanks
As for your other posts WOW! I have to real read them carefully. Look I can say
from a simple mans point of view Im sure this journey is not a ruse.
Lucifer and Satan is bound and the last rebel remains and will adjudicated as in
the books of religion like in bible and all the other books.
All I look for is reflections, connections in my mind and parallels across all
the books. Thats all I do and I express my views.
I have studied doctrine and these things as comprehensively as your self. I
think your very intelligent things. My journey in this path the first places was
very simple. I just focussed on Eden in metaphor and in literal in the all the
books.
The truth will come out ultimately ruse or no ruse!
It has to come out everything whether mankind likes it or not. All I know that
this journey started from simple beginning and now is it huge where the planet
could virtually rest on it. Maybe!
True in one thousand years we will enter in to new heaven and earth stage but in
order for man to spiritually strive for that planetary event the adjudication of
the rebellion I think has to be now .
One thing for sure the Most Highs do not need the counseling of man.
What will happen, will happen and that will be the testimony and we have a path
to the future.
Here is a recent post.
Here is information about a sister planet that has ran the same course as we
have with respect to defaults and planetary rebellion. There is one continent
that has really progressed according to the author. I thought the description of
this neighboring planet was quite interesting.
By permission of Lanaforge and with the approval of the Most Highs of Edentia,
I am authorized to narrate something of the social, moral, and political life
of the most advanced human race living on a not far-distant planet
belonging to the Satania system.
Of all the Satania worlds which became isolated because of participation in
the Lucifer rebellion, this planet has experienced a history most like that of
Urantia. The similarity of the two spheres undoubtedly explains why
permission to make this extraordinary presentation was granted, for it is
most unusual for the system rulers to consent to the narration on one
planet of the affairs of another.
This planet, like Urantia, was led astray by the disloyalty of its Planetary
Prince in connection with the Lucifer rebellion. It received a Material Son
shortly after Adam came to Urantia, and this Son also defaulted, leaving the
sphere isolated, since a Magisterial Son has never been bestowed upon its
mortal races.
---------------------------------------------
and here is the last piece of this paper.
There could be some hints and clues for the future. It could be that the
knowledge about this planet or system could be adopted here in some aspects
after judgment. It seems more advanced than our society perhaps we could learn
some things.
quote:
12. THE OTHER NATIONS
Although the society and government of this unique people are in many respects
superior to those of the Urantia nations, it should be stated that on the
other continents (there are eleven on this planet) the governments are
decidedly inferior to the more advanced nations of Urantia.
Just now this superior government is planning to establish ambassadorial
relations with the inferior peoples, and for the first time a great religious
leader has arisen who advocates the sending of missionaries to these
surrounding nations. We fear they are about to make the mistake that so many
others have made when they have endeavored to force a superior culture and
religion upon
Page 820 other races. What a wonderful thing could be done on this world if
this continental nation of advanced culture would only go out and bring to
itself the best of the neighboring peoples and then, after educating them,
send them back as emissaries of culture to their benighted brethren! Of
course, if a Magisterial Son should soon come to this advanced nation,
great things could quickly happen on this world.
This recital of the affairs of a neighboring planet is made by special
permission with the intent of advancing civilization and augmenting
governmental evolution on Urantia. Much more could be narrated that would
no doubt interest and intrigue Urantians, but this disclosure covers the
limits of our permissive mandate.
Urantians should, however, take note that their sister sphere in the Satania
family has benefited by neither magisterial nor bestowal missions of the
Paradise Sons. Neither are the various peoples of Urantia set off from each
other by such disparity of culture as separates the continental nation from
its planetary fellows.
The pouring out of the Spirit of Truth provides the spiritual foundation
for the realization of great achievements in the interests of the human
race of the bestowal world. Urantia is therefore far better prepared
for the more immediate realization of a planetary government with its laws,
mechanisms, symbols, conventions, and language--all of which could contribute
so mightily to the establishment of world-wide peace under law and could lead
to the sometime dawning of a real age of spiritual striving; and such an age
is the planetary threshold to the utopian ages of light and life.
[Presented by a Melchizedek of Nebadon.]
Im thinking, maybe the Utopian ages
of light and life is a thousand years for this planet. However, I feel for
this to happen in the future 1000 years some change and adjudication to the
rebellion has to occur now.
It could all a hint for the future and note when Jesus comes back to this planet
similar things will happen on those planets to. It will be a universal event
perhaps simultaneously.
Its interesting that there appears to be a blueprint of societal changes in the
future. Apparently each family is allotted 5 hectares of land. It seems like
there are no cities as we know them. Apparently its the responsibility of the
family to teach there children religion in the home, apparently there are no
churches as we have here. It appears to be individual religion on personal basis
where there appears to be one truth. Where the family is the basis of
civilization and where its civilization is fermented in the family. Gee I wonder
if they get together for even a sing a long!
I wonder how something like that would work on this planet? Mind you if no faith
exists on this planet and judgment happens as prophesied it may be devastating
with earth changes happening at the same time. Maybe the elect and faith full
might be very few like 700 million working on Isaiahs 10% that will survive.
Perhaps a similar system to this but in our own characteristics may be a
worthwhile option of government for the future and society with a difference.
I dont know, Ahh just some ideas! In some cases a society like this would be
hard to get used to knowing what life is like here.
All the best everyone!
If we know about this planet then we have a link to them as promoted by the
Ancient of Days. Maybe one day we may speak to these people and say Hello! and
drop by. It may be all possible after Judgment when the quarantine is lifted.
and remember this recital is here for a purpose from the Ancient of Days with
definate intent.....how does it deliver??
quote:
by special permission with the
intent of advancing civilization and augmenting governmental evolution on
Urantia.
remember the intent for progressing
civilization here.
and here is another
quote:
more immediate realization of a
planetary government
and here is another clue
quote:
if a Magisterial Son should soon
come to this advanced nation, great things could quickly happen on
this world.
and
quote:
The pouring out of the Spirit of
Truth provides the spiritual foundation for the realization of great
achievements in the interests of the human race of the bestowal world.
To be honest the society as described
would be hard to get used to in somes degrees. Our society seems rather
different and geared differently. There appears to be a real emphasis on family
from what I can see. It seems agrarian in many aspects. I wonder if the country
runs on free energy?
and lastly
quote:
This nation is making a
determined effort to replace the self-respect-destroying type of charity by
dignified government-insurance guarantees of security in old age. This nation
provides every child an education and every man a job; therefore can it
successfully carry out such an insurance scheme for the protection of the
infirm and aged.
sevens
sevens
Hi Seek
Here is table of contents of the Urantia Papers.
Have a good go at it.
I am absolutely sure you will receive good benefit from it.
Have a look at Dalamatia City in the search and go to the images of Dalamatia.
Read and see the connections on all levels. Its a revelation for oncoming epoch.
Here is another link. I tell I can relate to his research and the experience
in this journey to the ancient places. As far as I'm concerned with rapture
and all those it is a short term period and then it happens. The this role is
over!
I find it incredible find these links now so far into the journey near a
completion in my view.
and this
quote:
Isaiah 48:
And all shall be gathered, and shall hear: who has told them these
things? Out of love to Thee I have fulfilled Thy desire on Babylon, to
abolish the seed of the Chaldeans. 15 I have spoken, I have called, I have
brought him, and made his way prosperous. 16 Draw nigh to Me, and hear ye
these words; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning: when it
took place, there was I, and now the Lord, even the Lord, and his Spirit,
hath sent me.
this whole journey confirms many things for me in this journey to the first
places that I feel are in The Fathers purpose.
all the best
Sevens
Hi
I just like to say that I find these posts very interesting and I am learning
alot. I'm personally very happy with the progression of this almighty study
especially reading Ernest Moyer's research.
There is so many things that this man has touched on and has deeply investigated
and brought forth truth (in my mind) which completely confirms this journey, the
whole journey and in completion on the personal experience of being led in the
journey to the first places.
In my truth of experience in this journey the universe including everything and
everyone in the angelic realm functions on the basis of faith, trust, loyalty in
truth, beauty and goodness with love for one another.
That's it, how simple is that. Man and angels who attuned to that level of
relationship work together as a team to glorify the father in truth in
demonstration of his love as he blesses man greatly in his own journey of faith
in him.
I find this level just simply out weighs any fear thoughts of the conspiratorial
NWO.
I am so focused in this journey that the only NWO that is see is the "Kingdom of
Heaven" on earth the Jesus World.
Regarding time, in this journey I must say its been linear form in the
discoveries but in saying that it has been in the future which tapes into the
eternal realm in the timeline, there is no time there.
I feel paradise demonstrates in the timeline in my experience in the beforehand
when action is taken in faith that no one would ever do, like a 40 day test
declared and is seen further in the timeline reflected in the books, extension
and all. Its is heard in Heaven!
Then in some cases you see parts of the whole all layout in the future and you
know what they are all about from within. Or you may see a chapter where you
have experienced it like the mystery of Solomon and its connection to the
journey with background.
Then you see commonalities of parts spread out in the books and combine them
altogether you have a whole reflection. But the archeology division of the
journey and the harmonization of what is described and what you can see is a
very major part of it.
That is really exciting. That tops the lot and the messages that I feel emanates
from them and where it leads you in the study is such a blessing.
Now I just think a major part of the bible was written for the weakest link in
this end time solution. There was so much effort put into the last link that
many things reflect support Like "be not dismayed" "I will not tarry" and a
whole raft of things. They all knew that the last link would come from the
absolute ashes from a very weak place. But that flicker of faith from the
darkest part from within was the guiding light of the Father, that weak link
hung for sheer life to survive his own tribulation and testing period only to
become a victor within himself in his own journey and in connection to a very
big mystery of the planet related to the treasure houses. Glory be to the Father
in heaven. That man became the victor of himself in truth, beauty and goodness.
Man the Victor with truth, enamouring him, raising him to be the victor of
himself from dust to real righteousness in the light of truth.
That's what I think the Father intends for us, to be very progressive and seek
truth through our minds and good actions. I believe with the truth that flooding
in from the Father that we are the highest level of our evolution and I think
ready to leap forward in faith.
We all have different ideas but I think the truth will stand out. I feel the
Father is becoming stronger in this and momentum is building to what ever the
outcome is in our speculation.
All I know Ive been very truthful in this search, I haven't changed any scripts
Ive said it as it comes on the journey of discovery, totally honest.
See what happens but its all is in the Fathers hands of "the Kingdom of Heaven"
right on! yea! yes!
Sevens
I was think what about positive energy.
Would that work in the same way.
I feel that in the world there will be new technologies available but only given
to those who have been tried and tested as loyal embracing faith.
I'm not sure whether Nuclear is desirable nor sustainable considering the waste
and the potential for negative use.
I feel there are other positive sources of energy feel harnessed and given at
very little cost of at all. Except for the cost of an appliance.
Perhaps the technologies that were discovered by Tesla then perhaps were not
ready for use and expansion with the current form of human rulership. I'm not
sure! worth a thought
Hi I feel an event will happen to wake man up
like rapture, the world then goes through a testing period.
A judgment occurs, then the elect and the remnant join up and carry on for a
thousand years in preparation for the era of light and life which are the
utopian ages. like in the bible.
It will take a thousand years before man is ready for that however, in order for
him to be ready for that he has deal with the past right now in this day and
season.
The difference is that in the next 1000 years after judgment and before light
and life, there will be no Nodites!
I reckon that part where the last rebel is less constrained is at the post
rapture and pre judgment era before the thousand years. At the thousand years a
temple will be built in space that will descend to earth and that would
inaugurate the era of light and life.
The thousand years will be a period of very positive spiritual striving.
However, the trial period (post rapture pre judgment) Some say will last for 7
years others say 70 years for this period. I'm not sure. I also think all the
prophecies in the books is about this crucial stage we are about to enter as my
research tells me.
I think what we are proposing is all very similar apart from a few variations
which I don't think is that much.
I truly think we are in the pre rapture or translation before everything breaks
loose.
If we are to celebrate the Utopian ages of Light
and Life, we have to find resolve in the great judgment right NOW!!. Its going
to take 1000 years and a new society to reach that point. Also consider we do
have the Holy Spirit which gives us a great advantage.
Sevens
Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:15 pm
The following seems to have this hint of rapture
or translation about it.
This come from the 1stBook of Adam and Eve before Jesus. I think around 300BC.
Quote:
extract
14:2 But God the Lord said to Adam,
"Indeed I say to you, this darkness will pass from
you, every day I have determined for you, until the fulfillment of My
covenant; when I will save youandbring you
back again into the garden, intothe house of light you long for , in which
there is no darkness*. I will
bring you to it --
inthe kingdom of
heaven."
To me you could interpret that as literal reference to rapture!
and another similar reference
Quote:
extract
10:7-9 When Adam and Eve heard these words from God, they cried a
bitter cry; and Adam entreated God to let him return into the garden, and
look at it a second time. 8 But God said to Adam, "I
have made you a promise; when that promise is fulfilled,I will bring you back into the garden, you and
your righteous descendants." 9 And God ceased to commune with Adam.
Sevens
posted
09-01-2007 09:23 PM
Hi Brig
Here are some that I found that supports translation Rapture. I found them
then.
quote:
Quote:
John 14:2) In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I
would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
quote:
(John 14:3) And if I go and
prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself;
that where I am, there ye may be also.
quote:
Quote:
(Rev 22:12) And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to
give every man according as his work shall be.
(Rev 22:13) I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first
and the last.
(Rev 22:14) Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have
right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
and here some more references from a
recent post
The following seems to have this hint of rapture or translation about it.
This come from the 1stBook of Adam and Eve before Jesus. I think around 300BC.
quote:
Quote:
extract
14:2 But God the Lord said to Adam, "Indeed I say to you, this darkness will
pass from you, every day I have determined for you, until the fulfilment of
My covenant; when I will save you and bring you back again into the
garden, into the house of light you long for , in which there is no
darkness*.
I will bring you to it -- in the kingdom of heaven."
To me you could interpret that as
literal reference to rapture!
and another similar reference
quote:
Quote:
extract
10:7-9 When Adam and Eve heard these words from God, they cried a bitter
cry; and Adam entreated God to let him return into the garden, and look at
it a second time. 8 But God said to Adam, "I have made you a promise; when
that promise is fulfilled, I will bring you back into the garden, you and
your righteous descendants. " 9 And God ceased to commune with Adam.
I they the above verses all supports
translation/rapture for the elect.
I found this Gem in Ezra, I'm not sure
of the chapter, I found it in my research. To me it describes everything about
this journey. to a tee.
quote:
[22] If then I have found favor
before thee, send the Holy Spirit into me, and I will write everything that
has happened in the world from the beginning, the things which were written in
thy law, that men may be able to find the path, and that those who wish to
live in the last days may live."
Well thats is exactly the case in this
journey, for sure 100%. This is a definite thread or path to investigate. I
reckon!
Its quite astonishing how its reflects everything in the journey. It amazing
rediscovering something from the past that fulfills everything that has
happened.
Again just linking up the site and connecting things I found this related to a
Hadith.
I really describes the result of the test
quote:
"The Hour will not come until the
following events have come to pass: people will compete with one another in constructing high buildings; two
earthquakes will
increase; time will pass quickly; afflictions and killing will increase;
nearly
thirty dajjals will appear, each of them claiming to be a messenger from
Allaah; a man will pass by a grave and say , 'Would that I were in your
place'; the sun will rise from the West; when it rises and the people see
it, but that will be the time when 'No good will it do to aperson to believe
then, if it believed not before..[al-An'aam
(6):158] link
There seems to be a real message in
that message. I would take head to faith in the beforehand because afterwards
its useless.
And on the Day of Resurrection,
he ['Eesaa (Jesus)] will be a witness against them." [an-Nisaa'
(4):157-9]
We think that the Tafseer (interpretation) of this Aayah is that the pronoun
in "before his death" (qabla mawtihi) refers to Jesus; i.e, he will descend
and the People of the Book who differed concerning him will believe in him.
The Christians claimed that he was divine, while the Jews made a slanderous
accusation, i.e. that he was born from adultery. When Jesus descends before
the Day of Judgment, he will correct all these differences and lies.
The above seems a little harsh, aggressive and
racial but It does note that there is, in this end time
scenario a book involved that speaks of Jesus which people disagree with. It
seems that Jesus actually comes back to confirm the book and truth, would that
be the Urantia Book??
And the Lord answered me and said.
Write the vision. and that plainly on a tablet,
and that he that reads it may run . For
the vision is yet for a set time, and
it shall shoot forth at the end, and
not in
vain:
though he should tarry wait him; for
he shall surely come, will not tarry.
and here is something about the mystery and the prophets in the new
testament
Here is a classic. I think this points to the ancient locations.
Quote:
Romans 16:25 (Read all of Romans 16)
Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel,
and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the
revelation of the mystery, which
was kept secret sincethe world began
26 But now is made manifest, and by the
scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting
God,made known to all nations for the
obedience of faith:
27 To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.,
Colossians 1:26
Quote: Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations,
but now is made manifest to his saints:
Sevens
The above seems a little harsh and
racial but I does note that there is, in this end time scenario a book
involved that speaks of Jesus which people disagree with. It seems that Jesus
actually comes back to confirm the book and truth, would that be the Urantia
Book??
This journey could be the testament.
Quote:
Hab 2:1
And the Lord answered me and said.
Write the vision. and that plainly on a tablet,
and that he that reads it may run . For
the vision is yet for a set time, and
it shall shoot forth at the end, and
not in vain:
though he should tarry wait him;
for he shall surely come, will not tarry.
4Q215 "...and the stressful constraint and the
ordeal of the pit (the trap of no faith) and they shall be refined by them
to become the elect of the righteousness....
because of his loving kindness.
and
Enoch 80
9During one year we shall leave you with your children, until you shalt
again recover your strength, that you may instruct your family, write these
things, and explain them to all your children.
(Written beforehand, Found in the scripts and revealed before the time. There
is a definite period of probation.)
But in another year they shall take you from the midst of them ,
and your heart shall be strengthened; for the elect shall point out
righteousness to the elect; the righteous with the righteous shall rejoice,
congratulating each other;
(Yes before the actual event of rapture the Elect who share the message of the
test that lasts for a year ..Truth, Beauty and Goodness shall be taken. That
includes all man who has love in his heart and humbles himself I believe will
be taken, translated raptured.)
and
088.001 YUSUFALI: Has the story reached thee of the overwhelming (Event)?
and lastly
18 And [their] bows will dash even young men to pieces. And the fruitage of
the belly they will not pity; for sons their eye will not feel sorry.
Mind you this was written long time back however it does seem very extreme,
very difficult times.
19 And Babylon, the decoration of kingdoms, the beauty of the pride of the
Chaldeans, must become as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.
Enoch 92:l2
Afterwards, in the seventh week a perverse generation shall
arise; abundant shall be its deeds, and all its deeds perverse.
During its completion, the righteous shall be selected
from the plant of everlasting righteousness; and to them
shall be given the sevenfold doctrine respecting every
part of his whole creation,
This could mean
in the Seventh week of the new Millennium of Jesus' birthdate
August 21st 07 BC
The Seventh
week is 1st - 8th October, the Seventh week in the new
millennium.
posted
09-02-2007 04:26 PM
Believe in what!?
Weellll
I think it all has to do with the 40 day test that I declared on the 4th July 06
where soon after the 2 nodite cities was discovered 6 days after the season. In
this season I discovered the real Dalamatia City 6 days before.
Discovering the city at the end of the process. That's 3 submerged cities all
related to each other.
For me that was proof enough in confirmation of what was declared and I feel
that declaration was heard and I wouldn't be surprised if Jesus responds to this
because of all the faithfulness that has been involved.
What's even more confirming is that everyone that I used to speak to regularly
has abandoned this proposal. I'm all alone in this venture and that is the main
reason its only me and heaven that believe in this and the messages behind this.
All mankind has dumped this mission and has been skeptical, everyone. No one has
been faithful to the ultimate call. The Kingdom of Heaven has been absolutely
faithful in the by the guidance in the journey and the discoveries along the
way.
Man has virtually thumbed his nose at God. Judging his response.
That is exactly why the heaven as joined forces with this underdog mission for
mankind. To at least show there faithfulness to the task at hand.
Paradise will come from behind and when it does it will be too late to turn back
or have second thoughts.
Before I am castigated for saying this I want everyone to keep in the back of
there mind this knowledge of this test and live rightly if you can. Even be
halfhearted. I believe this month is the a very important month and many things
come to a finish and I feel the conditions are right!
How do you know that I am wrong???
I just feel this journey has all the Paradise Trinity aspects. In the oncoming I
see the Father justice component coming to pass with the intention of really
snapping man into to line he will be stern particularly what we have don't to
his planet. However the journey to the places, the whole journey including
1stEden is part of the Mother and Son venture, (Holy Spirit and Jesus) the
loving side to show the paths, declare all, the mercy side of the trinity.
It really about soul saving now! that's all that's left, the get the harvest in!
The beginning of the harvest and the feast/marriage date we have ready for us.
Seven
posted
09-03-2007 02:07 AM
Is the rapture and judgement
all about the sorting of the Adamic gene and Nodite gene through a simple test
of faith.
Behind what!?
Behind you! BOO ahahah
Things seem to be cyclical but in this journey I think that cycle will finish.
That matrix will be dealt with by the authors of cycle.
> What does that mean? Turn back to where? Second thoughts about what!?
Have you read all the previous threads and links??
There is test that in the process, its a test of faith, it was declared by
myself on the 4th July 06. Its a test of faith of the elect in preparation for
rapture from what my research tells me, its for the new world, the elect will
form the new administration of this planet as mentioned in the bible. Trust and
Faith is the key
Its from this test of faith, like in the 40 day test is from where this
selection occurs because it has been confirmed by the new book along with the
discoveries of the ancient places for our new society.
Its through faith that where the Adamic genes lay, the opposite to that reaction
of faith, like skeptism, doubt, anger and hatred is the Nodite gene we all have that
too, in some people it rules forever.
The father is sorting out mankind through this simple test where the Adamic
strain will arise and show itself whilst the Nodite gene will be sorted and
ultimately will not survive! I feel the seed of the fallen Sons of God will be
eradicated from this planet.
This sorting out and parting of the ways has nothing to with borders of races,
its not racial, its all to do with gene response on the faith level through a
simple test of faith. The Adamic gene allows the holy spirit and the personality
to harmonise better thereby producing better fruits of action which are more
noble and has more connectivity with the Father. This Adamic gene was very
important to mankind when Adam and Eve arrived they where meant to upstep our
societies of mankind with there progeny allowing the Adamic gene to admix. But
the plan failed and as a result you very mixed Adamic genes in all races in low
doses and varying levels.
This is an actual concern to the universal fathers that this gene has been
diluted and this is there solution as we read in the bible and other books.
This test of faith activates certain faith responses as you can read and see the
journey and the places. In addition, you have the genes of the fallen sons of
Gods the Nodites. The are the I suppose the opposite gene.
Its really all to do with a being suitable candidates who will be entrusted with
much. The trust and faith that you live the more you will be given in trust and
faith, like the treasure houses of the planet.
In the future world there will be new technologies that require trust, faith
with responsibility in leadership.
Anyway that's what I reckon and I'm standing by it.
check out the Urantia Book and look at the evidence on multiple levels.
Those that survive will have large families.
If rapture occurs and the journey and thoughts are right. I feel in the post
rapture period the hidden Adamic gene will arise within many people and when
judgment occurs I think there will be many people that will survive. But the
Nodite at that time will not survive that includes people.
No one can fool the Father as a he searches the heart and motivation.
But then again he is only asking for simple faith and a teachable spirit.
Also in the time of post rapture, the Nodite gene where ever it exist and
whoever choose the Nodite/Gene way will close ranks!! Because it will mean sheer
survival of the Nodite gene.
Everything seems normal now but when things happens I believe things will change
on this planet. Maybe as prophecied which I can understand as that will be a
reaction of man for survival.
This is viable possibility and if Jesus is involved in this which I believe he
will confirm this journey against all odds!
One thing for sure this selection wont be a matter of races as we see them. I
also believe the Holy Spirit can transform people even with large percentage of
Nodite gene. Like in shutting down the Nodite gene responses allowing the Adamic
gene to take over, the evidence of this would be the change of the ways and
mindal transformation in truth where the actions display good fruit.
The Nodite is all related to fear and the use of fear as a tool of power for
self purpose considering no one, complete selfishness, sharing nothing. Whilst
the Adamic gene does the opposite.
I don't think its a matter of which church nor religion. Although religion
should help us to understand this and that should be its purpose but instead we
have mass confusion and all sorts doctrines being espoused. I think its all to
do with the soul, construct of man and his motivation in light of truth. Whether
he embraces or rejects within himself.
The Adamic Gene is positive, creative, open minded, discerning, teachable and
loves his fellow brother. The Holy Spirit assimilates with this aspect of our
gene construct which emanates in our thoughts and reaction. Overtime whilst
bathing in the light of truth and connection this Adamic part of our nature
arises more and more in complete faith and trust and awe of the attunement to
the mind of the Father.
The ultimate matrix of love which is the higher matrix.
sevens
posted
09-03-2007 04:09 PM
Just thinking about the above and
relating it to the mark of the beast in revelation.
The Mark of the Beast is more than likely this Nodite gene that all man
has to some degree.
I'm sure this mark of the beast is related to the genes and its influence and
activities in our thoughts and actions. Thinking on this level it would make
sense through a process is initiated by the universal fathers to eliminate this
corrupt gene strain. The Nodite strain has held man back from achieving his true
destiny because of the corrupt actions of the fallen Sons of God.
As we know in the bible it speaks of the beast and the false prophet thrown into
the lake. This action resembles personality extinction of the the Nodite gene
and the people who follow its import into the mind and manipulate it over
others.
The beast is the Nodite seed and the false prophet is those who represent the
false truth of the Nodite seed.
Remember, the journey to the ancient places is all about from where this Nodite
strain originated from. Its from the first places that this seed came from and
corrupted the destiny of mankind. I think this is one purpose of the journey to
go back to where it began where the Father has unfinished business. That is
exactly what has happened in the journey to the ancient places.
There is real purpose in this journey not to mention intent of Paradise.
Anyway faith is the key and everyone has a simple choice to make through a
demonstration related to "the treasure houses" and the "heritage of
the ages" .
Wisdom is the treasure!
It says in the Urantia Book that when we all pass through the 7th heaven of the
Mansion worlds in our eternal evolution we will make our final victory of the
mark of the beast at that time. So as you can see this process of the influence
of the fallen Sons of God in our genes will go on in heaven which is quite
understandable. Even though its not flesh and blood in heaven, it will be of a
spiritual nature in our future attitudes beyond this realm.
line 144: The experience on this sphere is the crowning achievement of
the immediate postmortal career. During your sojourn here you will receive
the instruction of many teachers, all of whom will co-operate in the task of
preparing you for residence on Jerusem. Any discernible differences between
those mortals hailing from the isolated and retarded worlds and those
survivors from the more advanced and enlightened spheres are virtually
obliterated during the sojourn on the seventh mansion world. Here you will
be purged of all the remnants of unfortunate heredity, unwholesome
environment, and unspiritual planetary tendencies. The last remnants of the
"mark of the beast" are here eradicated
There only some thoughts I had on the run. To me it kind of makes sense. It
would be an interesting study to check out. I'm sure it goes very deep where it
has probably all to do with our structure and things that prevent us from
reaching our true potential. Perhaps the things deep within our genes that need
highlighting!
From my studies the genetic code was implanted by the life carriers in the way
of living cells which contained all the potential of evolution in the result we
today. Its definitely evolution but does have creative value. Our planet is a
decimal planet which means that our species of sentient being is different from
other type of human in the universe. Essentially we are an experiment of a new
type being in the construct of evolution and creation. Every 10th planet that
becomes inhabited is an experimental planet evolving a higher perhaps more
varied level of sentient being in gene structure.
The source of our genes comes from the universe implanted by the life carriers
who live in the other dimension who take care of things in nature and help to
evolve nature until a species becomes sentient. Self reflective ad self
conscious then there job is over.
Its worth checking out but how could I prove it??
Anyway my take on things at this time.
sevens
posted
09-05-2007 06:21 AM
hi
Here is a piece regarding the Mark of the Beast from the urantia book. I suppose
you could assume the mark of the best of spiritual as well as physical in this
time.
quote:
PAPER 47 - THE SEVEN MANSION
WORLDS
* line 144: The experience on this sphere is the crowning achievement of the
immediate postmortal career. During your
sojourn here you will receive the instruction of many teachers, all of whom
will co-operate in the task of preparing you for residence on Jerusem .
Any discernible differences between those mortals hailing from the isolated
and retarded worlds and those survivors from the more advanced and enlightened
spheres are virtually obliterated during the sojourn on the seventh mansion
world . Here you will be purged of all the remnants of unfortunate
heredity, unwholesome environment , and unspiritual planetary
tendencies.
The last remnants of the "mark of the beast" are here eradicated.
* line 157: John the Revelator saw a vision of the arrival of a class
of advancing mortals from the seventh mansion world to their first
heaven, the glories of Jerusem. He recorded: "And I saw as it were a sea
of glass mingled with fire; and those who had gained the victory over the
beast that was originally in them and over the image that persisted
through the mansion worlds and finally over the last mark and trace,
standing on the sea of glass, having the harps of God, and singing the song of
deliverance from mortal fear and death." (Perfected space communication
is to be had on all these worlds; and your anywhere reception of such
communications is made possible by carrying the "harp of God," a
morontia contrivance compensating for the inability to directly adjust the
immature morontia sensory mechanism to the reception of space
communications.)
I feel any gene that is corrupted will
not enter the kingdom of heaven even though it effects are still felt in the
mansion world before we reach our first heaven.
Also note that many personalities that are affected by the Mark of the Beast,
like us do survive. I feel however the nodite gene response to the extreme will
be taken out of this world through a simple faith process.
I think the ancient submerged cities
in the journey is all to do in revealing the truth about this "Mark of the
Beast" and perhaps in the demise of it.
maybe! just going by faith in my thoughts in the path.
I believe that whole journey is a faith journey and what I discover in the books
and in the images which is the only physical thing that I rest my case on, in
the discoveries and parallels in this case.
There has been many times where I have done something or initiated something
only to find it in the books reflected in some way that I can relate to in the
future timeline. To me it has been of things anticipated and seen and hope for
in the beforehand but not yet seen in the timeline Only to discover it which
includes th journey to the thing of discovery. Like in the 40 day test as
reflected in the Hadith.
Or then you may be led into a great connecting discovery like in the case of
Jesus tomb and all the connecting symbolism that I have studied in the
beforehand. In the case of Jesus' tomb, if my faith hunches a right there could
be great discoveries from this which may even lead to a discovery on mars which
does have connection in symbolism to Jesus tomb, like the circle in the triangle
symbolism that I believe relates to Dalamatia, Babel/Dilmun, the Sumerian's and
the great pyramid all connected by symbolism. Not to mention the WWW symbol
which can be seen in the tomb, Mars, Dalamatia and Sumerian seal.
Does that point to internet WWW or what! Actually it points to the
triangles of Jerusem! The Capital of our system, the 1st Heaven.
In the case of Jesus' tomb, the researchers only reached a certain point, like a
dead end but then when I see a symbol that I have seen in this faith journey, I
can take the research further for man. There has been many cases like that.
All Im doing is adding to what man already knows but taking further. Its is a
total faith journey in that I am being led by the Father in the Kingdom of
Heaven through my thought adjuster and by the help if the Angels in
synchronicity in great personal discoveries.
All the discoveries have been discovered in perfect timing as you can see in the
timeline image.
So as I experience these beautiful treasure house or Heritage of Ages
discoveries and release them for mans benefit on the run, I feel really blessed
where my faith increases, the more faith increases the more I discover and am
led.
This to me feels like a faith process and seeing things manifest is so faith
building which is an on the spot journey for man to build his faith.
I think that is another purpose, its like with the 40 day test and the extension
of it, the more I discover and share in the timeline the more things manifest of
discovery in the timeline. So as I experience more connections, parallels and
discoveries my faith builds with more confidence in the journey and in the lord
to the point where I increase my vision for the ultimate interpretation of all
the scriptures including those outside the bible.
Its like a great crescendo of virtual reality coming to pass in the ultimate
truth of the scripts with the intent of Paradise.
Actually, where I am now is like waiting for the great actions of the lord to
occur. I feel that I want to improve the website and consolidate the connections
and parallels and write more stuff but other than that I am ready! I have taken
the research to its fullest extent apart from a expedition. Hopefully that may
occur but rapture may happen in the meantime. Thats Ok, thats great! I want see
what the our new temporary abode looks like.
I am really ready for this great event to occur I have full faith in the
beforehand of the things to happen in accordance to my journey in the books of
truth. Its what the scriptures and the journey tells me. I have faith in the
Kingdom of Heaven as I know the kingdom through my journey of faith,
proclamations and discoveries along the way which supports my initial hunches
and thoughts.
Because I have no fear in this work, quite the opposite I am free to explore and
discover these things of glorious beauty because there is no fear. There is no
Nodite influence here!
The closer I feel in my heart to the lord the more motivated I am, even being
one man band on the run where I have to work to keep this going and juggle
things. But that what makes this faith journey beautiful, against all odds of
this manifesting in Ultimacy. but there's that 1 percent that will come through
against all the odds like 3 billion to one. It will ring true and happen. from
the lowest level to highest levels. Its like the building of man.
Also I just cant conceive that we are so far down the track in the discoveries
and research that the Kingdom of Heaven will not fulfill there side of things. I
feel its a joint venture of heaven and myself or mankind if he wants to be
involved, in this partnership joint venture, striving together.
I see the truth and the info and I give it away and then heaven manifests the
reality in the beforehand to the present and projecting to the future, to the
next leg, in the faith process This process relates to my faith in the Father
and his faith in me. Faith in that Adamic section of my Gene structure, to arise
the nodite propensity that I also have within me, we all do!
I just feel Heaven wants someone to write for them and give the treasure houses
to man in love so man in love gives it to his fellow brother, in love for one
another. It has Jesus all through it!
So that's my definition of my faith process of the journey and mind you we can
help each other to build on this platform with research and discoveries. In
saying this I open my platform for others to participate in and to become
involved in this, let this be a journey for man in the complete sense where we
are all working together building on this to find and manifest truth!
Don't you find it interesting that Jesus tomb comes into the research at this
time, the time synchronicity. Very interesting with very deep messages in
symbolism that lead you to a definition, thats awe inspiring! and its into
intergalactic, pointing to mars and even to the Capital of our system. amazing!
Sumerian seal, the triangles and the WWW
and the WWW or MMM on Mars or the partial triangles in the same
formation near the Face of Mars.
Hey thanks Brig for the reference, I have to get
the book and see what I can find.
Soon after I found the inscriptions in the tomb of Jesus. I then started to
watch a video on Google which included some of those images, it was also in a
different language. As I watching it I noticed in an instant the same type
pattern on Mars in the image the same pattern in Jesus tomb.
I went back to the spot and copied the image. I'm sure there a better images
about. In the past I also noticed other triangular shapes on Mars. Very
interesting! The Sumerian seal I found about a week later and again the same
pattern.
truly fascinating how the same pattern seems to have definition and information
that we are testing today, to my mind.
all the best
sevens
posted
09-06-2007 04:00 AM
Hi wirelessguru1
quote:
OSI data communications model has
seven (7) layers
Hi wirelessguru1
quote:
OSI data communications model has seven (7) layers
Just fascinating, how intriguing about
the 7 layers.
Actually I like how you programmers and viruses in you analogy.
I think it just seems right to me.
We were programmed through creative evolution, then we are affected by a fallen
estate (virus) in the first instance, then in an attempt to rid virus we were
infused with the Adamic gene. But that failed to pull back the dominance of the
Nodite gene because of the 2nd default. The Nodite gene being imposition forced
will aspect of the gene.
So we have a programme which is faulty but still functional but not complete and
still held back by the virus we still have. Unfortunately, we never got to much
of the Adamic gene to bring us forward without fear.
However, in regards to the Adamic gene we have another programme sent to assist
it, called the Holy Spirit. Because we have this extra programme it enables us
to over come the fear ridden, selfish Nodite strain.
Well the Father is not satisfied with this as he wants to rewrite the whole
programme without any viruses or defects.
I believe this faith process is all related to this re programming in the
physical. First he wants to rid of the programmer who wrote that horrible virus
along with all the other crappy Nodite programmers on this planet who follow the
last rebel. (speaking in the spiritual off course) Not you wireless no way man,
I think you're a good programmer of good works and words along with your
interesting thoughts.
Also this morning after writing my first post, i was driving to work when It
occurred to me that this part of the journey is the first stage in the record.
The second stage will be a trip to an architectural world were this record will
be continued in the descriptions of this other world.
Then when we come back the 3rd stage I feel it will be judgment time and will be
a part of this record. After Judgment the 4th stage that will be final
completion in the new world forevermore.
Coming back we can do all the expeditions complete the record and then I think
it would be the greatest presentation ever to behold man!
Then it will be presented as a full story throughout history for mankind and
will be seen by countless generations in the new world. yes yes yes!
Well that just sounds perfect to me. I am READY! lets do it. When that thought
came to my mind, I thought YES that sounds and feels right and is
consistent to the journey to the ancient places.
And its mentioned in Nostradamus to.
What a gift that is and what a new level for this research and journey of man.
To be taken to a world designed for us temporarily where this record to the
ancient places will still continue but will be a complete description of the
experience.
So I am waiting for a seraphic transport to take me to next level to continue
this record. I'm sure Jesus would do that in this case.
Vans highland headquarters and where
the Adamson/Javan/Young civilization began. Note the diamond shapes area and the
3 co planar circles, the same on top of the Acropolis Hill in 1stEden of Cyprus.
Again another connection to Dalamatia, the diamonds!! The Diamond affect we have
in Dalamatia City.
and the 3 co planar rings on the Acropolis Hill
of 1st Eden Cyprus, The symbol of Van
And lastly the 3 co-planar circles of
Van, he came from Dalamatia he was loyal to the Father and was the custodian of
the tree of life before Adam and Eve arrived.
Man, what you saying here, I'm sorry but we see
things differently as I just read.
Remember this planet is quarantined from the rest of the universe. This NWO that
you see only exists in the mind of man on this planet.
I'm talking about the "Kingdom he Heaven" Not some NWO, what's that all about,
some medieval doctrine or something. I just don't understand your connections
man on what you wrote. This is no beast operation, come on! Satan is defeated
2000 years ago but obviously people still hold on to old things that have no
relevance or worth only what man gives to ideas that I don't see reflected in
the scripts.
With the Urantia Book its just a book that very direct and quite literal. NWO is
not spoken about i the UB, that is in your mind. Its a book from heaven and its
revealing itself in discovery. What wrong with that, there's no conspiracy
involved in this. I suppose to be positive and makes life interesting. Gee this
book and books are mentioned in revelation in a positive way, the way I see it.
All I see in what I saw was fear and superstition and nothing that I could
relate to.
On the Seventh thing I see it quite differently to how you view it. Its supposed
to be part of the mystery. I just feel into it without pre meditation its just
happened. So what if I use the Seventh number as a nick name quite innocently
chosen and then people make dispersions on it because of there fear. Come on Man
this is supposed to and enjoyable enlightening journey.
Oh well everyone see things in there own way but I'm not paranoid about anything
that's happening. Its seems the fear within you just reading your
interpretations. Funny part the book is written in the matter of fact not
written in major symbolism like you have in the olden books.
Personally how your interpreting the Ub in those inserts is really weird sorry
but I certainly don't understand what you saying because I see no other matching
evidence in the scriptures using the Bible or other books outside the bible to
find connection and it seems really on the negative side of what the book is
actually saying.
I wouldn't be fearful of this book. But we are testing it out and to me its led
to a solid path, its either truth or fiction. That's what this time period is
all about to test things. Your contribution is part of the test, to verify
things.
So it on the table.
no worries.
Hey Wirelessguru1.
If there is something like a discovery journey and its non violent and it
benefits mankind in truth through discovery. Whats wrong with that?
sevens
sevens
posted
09-06-2007 05:05 PM
Hey Wirelessguru1.
If there is something like a discovery journey and its non violent and it
benefits mankind in truth through discovery. Whats wrong with that?
Well I can testify as a witness to the journey that it has just wonderful and
there has been no fear or paranoid feelings. Its been really honest in pursuing
the truth of the matter.
Its thats simple. Gee I even wrote to the major nations in conflict and they
never even responded. I'm sure they deleted it straight and thought it was some
crack pot. Serious!
There not even interested. No one is interested in this journey judging by the
hopeless hits and the general non interest.
There is nothing going on here man! the only thing that may happen that may make
this journey valuable is, if rapture happens other than it could be fictional
story. Its all being tested in this evolution in time.
I really don't now what the outcome of this journey will be. It could be that
someone will verify and everyone says yea! and back to business as usual.
Its just a simple faith journey an off shoot of the the 1stEden journey taken to
the ultimate degree where one can go no further...... unless!
hahahahah You just never know!
There is no beast or seraphic evil being and all that negative non productive
thinking. The fruit in this journey is positive in discovery and in truth found
in the books including the Urantia Book and its just simple.
sevens
posted
09-06-2007 06:01 PM
Yeah but its just how you see it in
your mind.
Everyone has variation in what they see. The neutral core is your thoughts and
what you imposed in your inserts in the UB.
I would have to see more demonstration from independent sources such as scripts
about neutrality because I cant relate to any evidence, it seems like NWO
ideology and I'm not inspired to seek that path and its related ideas.
line 140: Even on normal
evolutionary worlds the realization of the world-wide brotherhood of man is
not an easy accomplishment.
On a confused and disordered planet like Urantia such an achievement requires
a much longer time and necessitates far greater effort.
Unaided social evolution can hardly achieve such happy results on a
spiritually isolated sphere. Religious revelation is essential to the
realization of brotherhood on Urantia.
While Jesus has shown the way to the immediate attainment of spiritual
brotherhood , the realization of social brotherhood on your world depends
much on the achievement of the following personal transformations and
planetary adjustments:
1. Social fraternity.
Multiplication of international and interracial social contacts and
fraternal associations through travel, commerce, and competitive play.
Development of a common language and the multiplication of multilinguists.
The racial and national interchange of students, teachers, industrialists,
and religious philosophers.
2. Intellectual cross-fertilization. Brotherhood is impossible on a
world whose inhabitants are so primitive that they fail to recognize the
folly of unmitigated selfishness. There must occur an exchange of national
and racial literature. Each race must become familiar with the thought of
all races; each nation must know the feelings of all nations. Ignorance
breeds suspicion, and suspicion is incompatible with the essential attitude
of sympathy and love.
3. Ethical awakening. Only ethical consciousness can unmask the
immorality of human intolerance and the sinfulness of fratricidal strife.
Only a moral conscience can condemn the evils of national envy and racial
jealousy. Only moral beings will ever seek for that spiritual insight which
is essential to living the golden rule.
Page 598 4. Political wisdom. Emotional maturity is essential to
self-control. Only emotional maturity will insure the substitution of
international techniques of civilized adjudication for the barbarous
arbitrament of war. Wise statesmen will sometime work for the welfare of
humanity even while they strive to promote the interest of their national or
racial groups. Selfish political sagacity is ultimately
suicidal--destructive of all those enduring qualities which insure planetary
group survival.
5. Spiritual insight. The brotherhood of man is, after all,
predicated on the recognition of the fatherhood of God. The quickest way to
realize the brotherhood of man on Urantia is to effect the spiritual
transformation of present-day humanity. The only technique for accelerating
the natural trend of social evolution is that of applying spiritual pressure
from above, thus augmenting moral insight while enhancing the soul capacity
of every mortal to understand and love every other mortal. Mutual
understanding and fraternal love are transcendent civilizers and mighty
factors in the world-wide realization of the brotherhood of man.
If you could be transplanted from your backward and confused world to some
normal planet now in the postbestowal Son age, you would think you had been
translated to the heaven of your traditions. You would hardly believe that
you were observing the normal evolutionary workings of a mortal sphere of
human habitation. These worlds are in the spiritual circuits of their realm,
and they enjoy all the advantages of the universe broadcasts and the
reflectivity services of the superuniverse.
Update on the translation/rapture
thread, please fully above and below the evolution.
posted
09-06-2007 08:12 PM
Hey in the above piece
I just noticed this verse
quote:
If you could be transplanted from
your backward and confused world to some normal planet now in the postbestowal
Son age, you would think you had been translated to the heaven of your
traditions.
Did you see that part "translated
to the heaven of your traditions." I just noticed that. Notice translated to
the heaven of your traditions. The tie in of translation and tradition, like the
heritage of the ages. AAHHHH! probably reading to much into it and perhaps
misreading it but lets look into in reflection to our conversation.
Maybe that was major find and in context to our conversation about rapture and
translation.
We, on Urantia are in the post son bestowal age (post Jesus) currently and when
the Urantia Book speaks of translation to another world to witness a normal
society. In our conversation of Rapture/translation The elect could be
translated to another world where we could witness there normal society and
become involved in it and then come back to help out this planet after
judgement.
We the elect could be taught about things of government on another world and
maybe actually witness a society that functions normally and view the difference
and learn.
That planet could be that Sister planet as described in the UB and was mandated
by the Ancient of Days exactly for this purpose and thats why they allowed a
presentation of there of there society.
Also note on the other planet a great teacher is arising over there and maybe
could be foreseeing the arrival of visitors from another planet in there
prophecies??? Arrivals from this planet maybe??
We come there to participate and while we are there we fulfill there prophecies
and make connection, we come back and fulfill our prophecies and begin again
with full knowledge with a connection to a sister sphere.
Ever thought of that one.
Then the elect come back with all this newly acquired and recorded material for
the benefit of mankind.
Wireless I don't know what normal is anymore ahahahah.
So when the authors of this paper write this piece in the ONLY IF like thats my
prayer for this planet ....if you could a normal function.... only if..
Well maybe the Ancient of Days may respond to that and allow that to happen.
If you could be transplanted from your backward and confused world to some
normal planet now in the postbestowal Son age, you would think you had been
translated to the heaven of your traditions.
And note again the connection to traditions and the heaven as described in our
traditions??
"translated to the heaven of your traditions.
"
This subtle tie in of translation and tradition, makes me think are we on the
right track here. Is this a round a bout confirmation?? tantilising to think.
Sure the above lays out the plan as we are speaking in the beforehand.
and then in the next part it speak of the sencoind coming of Jesus, right in the
next part how amazing and yet making reference to Urantia being out of step.
quote:
7. POST-TEACHER SON MAN
The Sons of the next order to arrive on the average evolutionary world are the
Trinity Teacher Sons, the divine Sons of the Paradise Trinity. Again we
find Urantia out of step with its sister spheres in that your Jesus has
promised to return. That promise he will certainly fulfill, but no one
knows whether his second coming will precede or follow the appearances of
Magisterial or Teacher Sons on Urantia .
I found that interesting all linked
with translation and the heaven of aa our tradition like a world that is spoke
about in the scriptures that would like a heaven to us in the way its socirty
works,....only if we could see a normal planet function...like a prayer!..and
then in the next breach speak about in connection with the second coming of
Jesus or the magisterial teacher sons...they don't know who coming first...like
making there mind up..just having fun.
But what I see is exactly what I have speaking about the elect will get
transported to a normal world and then come back in connection with perhaps the
second coming of Christ and perhaps the magisterial sons but I think both and
help out the elect for a thousands and more in the new society of the "kingdom
of Heaven" on earth.
line 52: On presettled worlds, planets without morontia temples, these
fusion flashes many times occur in the planetary atmosphere, where the
material body of a translation candidate is elevated by the midway
creatures and the physical controllers.
Is there links to
mars to another civilisation
September 7th 07
posted
09-06-2007 09:23 PM
And here was the piece I was searching
for in my study into the Mars connection as my research was leading me
quote:
On the nonbreathing worlds
the animal species are radically unlike those found on the atmospheric
planets. The nonbreathing plan of life varies from the technique of
existence on an atmospheric world; even in survival their peoples differ,
being candidates for Spirit fusion. Nevertheless, these beings enjoy life
and carry forward the activities of the realm with the same relative trials
and joys that are experienced by the mortals living on atmospheric worlds. In
mind and character the nonbreathers do not differ from other mortal types.
You would be more than interested in the planetary conduct of this type of
mortal because such a race of beings inhabits a sphere in close proximity to
Urantia.
And the above could be the Urantia
link to Mars, being a non breather planet where a civilized may exist and still
functions but underground and could be quite advanced in technology.
Interesting to ponder.
Here is interesting images I collected last night just looking around. Looking
for clues, im really fascinated with the clues.
Hi Ive been using a little
creative imagination in the journey.
I came across this thread that lead me to Jesus tomb and then to the great
Pyramid and then on to Dalamatia and then to Mars and then ultimately Jerusem.
Ive been following symbolism in the triangle, circles, diamonds, www or mmm
shapes.
I believe it could very lead to some sort of contact and I feel a sub breather
civilization lives there where sentient life evolved there due to the evolution
of the planet.
I thought it could be interesting.
To me its just bloody exciting!
Quote:
PAPER 98 - THE MELCHIZEDEK
TEACHINGS IN THE OCCIDENT, Oct 19 2000
* line 70: Having grown out of the earlier
religious forms of worship of the family gods into the tribal reverence for
Mars, the god of war, it was natural that the later religion of the Latins
was more of a political observance than were the intellectual systems of the
Greeks and Brahmans or the more spiritual religions of several other
peoples.
PAPER 49 - THE INHABITED WORLDS, Oct 19 2000
* line 65: Beings such as the Urantia races
are classified as mid-breathers; you represent the average or typical
breathing order of mortal existence. If
intelligent creatures should exist on a planet with an atmosphere
similar to that of your near neighbor, Venus, they would belong to the
superbreather group, while those inhabiting a
planet with an atmosphere as thin as that of your outer neighbor,
Mars, would be denominated subbreathers.
In the red highlight in the above how the English alters from
If intelligent
creatures "should" existspeaking about life conditions on Venus
for a super breather although the UB does qualify that a race of this type
doesn't exist in Venus.
However, when speaking about Mars the authors change there English to "while
those inhabiting a planet with an atmosphere the key word being "While
THOSE inhabiting a planet" Then in the
same breath in another section of the UB virtually confirms Mars as suitable as
a Sub-breather people. Put two and two together method and through an
elimination process and I believe you have the answer.
The UB Book is telling you without telling you that a civilisation of
Sub-breather exist on Mars and which confirmed by this statement "
Quote:
PAPER 49 - THE INHABITED
WORLDS, Oct 19 2000
* line 99: You would be more than
interested in the planetary conduct of this type of mortal because such a
race of beings inhabitsa spherein
close proximity to Urantia.
Well there you go, it doesn't speak of another Galaxy or a far distant place in
the Universe, it speaks of a sphere close by to Urantia who are a people of sub
breathers and who seems to be quite impressive in there conduct.
They seem quite friendly and fraternal.
I suppose its a process of Elimination of the worlds that would suitable for a
sub breather group. That would Mars the only planet that has a thin atmosphere
and does have all the ingredients for Sub breather life evolution.
Here is a little more on the special section of the Worlds of the Non breathers
but I suppose this could apply to Sub breathers. Note that if you compiled all
the information in the Urantia Book about this race you would have a clear view
of this nearby sub breather civilisation.
Quote:
3. WORLDS OF THE NONBREATHERS
The majority of inhabited planets are peopled with the breathing type of
intelligent beings. But there are also
orders of mortals who are able to live on worlds with little or no air.
Of the Orvonton inhabited worlds this type amounts to less than seven
per cent. In Nebadon this percentage is less than three. In all Satania
there are only nine such worlds.
There are so very few of the nonbreather
type of inhabited worlds in Satania because this more recently
organized section of Norlatiadek still abounds in meteoric space bodies; and
worlds without a protective friction atmosphere are subject to incessant
bombardment by these wanderers. Even some of the comets consist of meteor
swarms, but as a rule they are disrupted smaller bodies of matter.
Millions upon millions of meteorites enter the atmosphere of Urantia daily,
coming in at the rate of almost two hundred miles a second.
On the nonbreathing worlds the advanced
races must do much to protect themselves from
meteor damage by making electrical installations which operate to consume or
shunt the meteors. Great danger confronts them when they venture
beyond these protected zones. These worlds are also
subject to disastrous electrical storms of a
nature unknown on Urantia. During such times of tremendous
energy fluctuation the inhabitants must take refuge in their special
structures of protective insulation.
Life on the worlds of the nonbreathers is
radically different from what it is on Urantia.
The nonbreathers do not eat food or drink water as do the Urantia races.
The reactions of the nervous system, the
heat-regulating mechanism, and the metabolism of these specialized peoples
are radically different from such functions of
Urantia mortals. Almost every act of living, aside from reproduction,
differs, and even the methods of procreation are
somewhat different.
On the nonbreathing worlds the animal species are radically unlike those
found on the atmospheric planets. The
nonbreathing plan of life varies from the technique of existence on an
atmospheric world; even in survival their peoples differ, being candidates
for Spirit fusion. Nevertheless, these beings enjoy life and carry
forward the activities of the realm with the same relative trials and joys
that are experienced by the mortals living on atmospheric worlds.
In mind and character the nonbreathers do
not differ from other mortal types.
You would be more than interested in the
planetary conduct of this type of mortal because
such a race of beings inhabits a sphere in
close proximity to Urantia.
How exciting to be on the brink of contact in a real way in real discoveries in
the threads of truth. From the Father in Paradise and of the Government.
I think they use our water from the ocean and transport it to Mars...just from
what I read and the images Ive seen.
The above description of
the Sub breathers who live close by to us sound like and match's the description
of the Greys and perhaps variations of there genes...who knows just speculating
here.
Have you ever considered that the UFOs that for
real are the this non breather people from Mars. Consider the phobos incident
and images displaying UFOs in the night sky.
Just a thought and trying to piece it together.
sevens
Have you ever considered that the UFOs that for
real are the this non breather people from Mars. Consider the Phobos incident
and images displaying UFOs in the Mars sky.
Just a thought and trying to piece it together.
I propose that Mars was a water planet and lost its water perhaps during the
destruction of the 5th Planet Ceres. However, in that time bacteria as found in
Mars meteorites, survived and evolution perhaps started again from bacteria
level and evolved a non breather civilization over time.
This race also uses electrical energy to repel or divert inbound comets that are
a threat.
In my mind these threads give value and meaning to what is seen on Mars.
Also being in treacherous condition with in bound meteorites in there evolution
they would been more bonded together and pooled there complete resources
together in combating the inbounds. In that experience they would of worked as a
community most likely in unity in fight for survival.
Being in unity they would of developed technology beyond our current level.
Essentially they would be our mature elder brothers probably only willing to
help us. But we have to help our selves which are are doing in finding truth.
Anyway I thought that was interesting.
I think they would look exactly like greys being a non breather and they would
have large eyes living underground in there evolution and would most likely be
of smaller stature.
I doubt they had connection with us until there technology reached the level of
dropping by. This may explain the abduction and cross fertilisation of genetics.
That could be a strong reason for all the reports.
I'm just thinking out loud
sevens
Its interesting to note that the appears to be circular line that seems to run
around the circle complex with the chevron.
Also note the same circular formation of the area and its objects is virtually
identical to the objects surrounding the acropolis Hill as submerged 1stEden of
Cyprus and described in Enoch.
Its interesting to note that the appears to be circular line that seems to run
around the circle complex with the chevron. Its like a partial shape of a
football stadium with the circle smack bang in the middle of it and you have the
triangle wall on the left of the circle pointing directly to the middle of the
circle with the chevron.
The stadium shaped enclosure of the circle seems to ring around to the triangle
wall.
Jesus had many flocks and be assured this Martian civilization would of been one
of those flocks that Jesus the creator of this universe would of attended to.
That's explains the common symbolism as in the chevron and the triangle and
circle symbol.
The same symbolism we see in all these ancient places, the simple commonality
that we have made all complex.
Another thing I picked in my Mars
exploration was that there is some research about Hyper-dimensional energy that
is energy that physically comes in on the 19.5 degree plain on most of these
planet. Essentially in the last 20 years there has been a general increase in
various energy changes across the board.
Apparently on November 2003 there was recorded the largest solar flash that has
ever occurred from the Sun, researchers believe from that event, there was a
very high increased level of this hyper dimensional energy coming in from the
19.5 degree plain. The energy that underpins everything, Paradise energy. There
appears to be curious things happening on this plain in the planets.
I wonder if that had something to do with the proclamation of 1stEden or
Atlantis in November 2003 or part there of. Well if it was related, I sure felt
it! and I know exactly when I felt it!
I would assume Hyper dimensional
energy could be used for other things.
No worries, at the end of the day you feel what
you feel and what I feel is what I feel and that's basically it.
You have your view and I have mine.
Still like to see your evidence in scripture as in the scriptures you are
relying on in building your theory!
That to me provides more than just an opinion. If I can see reflected
specifically!
In regarding the Beast of revelation I mentioned some thoughts I had, we have to
see in time what the outcome is, that will determine the truth.
sevens
posted
09-10-2007 04:57 AM
Hey Seek you're going a bit mad
on the ole quotes aren't you.
Anyway appreciate your post and do read them. One thing I use the UB as a base
and then reach out in all the books for commonality.
The UB mentions that Satan lost the battle with Jesus 2000 years ago which
changed many things regarding the poser structure. All the Seraphic rebels
seraphs were interned including Lucifer.
From I heard and it has to be verified that when the UB was commissioned, Satan
was also interned which left the last Rebel Caligastia.
Who is loose to embark on his path sophistries to man, if man desires. Now I
don't desire but would think man in the past, in his quest for total world
domination has tapped into this energy.
Caligastia, is still free in the sanctuary of Jesus and I'm sure for a reason.
Obviously the doors of mercy is still open to him by Jesus, being his creator.
Even in writing this I wonder deep deep down in his heart of heart whether there
is thread of repentance in the last fallen free Son and Jesus knows this. Ahh!
Just a thought.
To me its like the Father and Son relationship in this case in a plea to turn
back from the brink of complete annihilation.
Its like with Judas Iscariot, in the UB apparently he did survive. I really feel
that before Judas committed he really repented in what he did but couldn't live
with himself in the act of betrayal against the master.
Anyway, I feel that the real, lets say NWO is the Paradise Universal government
headed by Jesus. I feel strongly that an attempt of the NWO through the
sophistries of last rebel maybe attempted but will ultimately fail. Because the
Most Highs have have an influence in the Kingdoms of Man.
Seek sorry, I was going to reply but I got all sidetracked with my own thoughts.
Also I don't feel like justifying every single world I say. I think you have
raised important points. But I think in terms of the Urantia revelation and I
reach out to the books in tis common reflection and also by within myself what
my thoughts are and do try to piece together using fragments and then brought
together to form a oneness, thats what I try to achieve in the forum s so people
can read it and see it and find common threads.
I suppose we all have all different ideas and yet there are some commonalities
of truth.
>Well, common reality is still wrong if out-of -tune with natural reality!!!
True thats why everything is being tested in accordance to the ancient places
and the evidence that lay there and everything else along the way followed
through.
I think the places is a good platform to work from the find out truth. What is
the truth? and how can we measure it??
From what platform can we achieve a positive result, for or against. I think
what I propose is good platform and to me is rather solid as no man could
conceive this.
Those places are either there or not and the Seven commands inscriptions would
prove the fact which points to all the books studied.
Essentially, it would be the proof of God.
Come on we gotta go down there to at least to Dalamatia City or Babel/Dilmun and
search for these places.
Who got a few spare million??? ahahahahah!
We have to find out more about these places to either prove or disprove the
hunches and the leads being followed.
Hey I want talk about MARS
Sevens
posted
09-10-2007 04:37 PM
wirelessguru1
>Well, common reality is still wrong if out-of -tune with natural reality!!!
True thats why everything is being tested in accordance to the ancient places
and the evidence that lay there and everything else along the way followed
through.
I think the places is a good platform to work from the find out truth. What is
the truth? and how can we measure it??
From what platform can we achieve a positive result, for or against. I think
what I propose is good platform and to me is rather solid as no man could
conceive this.
Those places are either there or not and the Seven commands inscriptions would
prove the fact which points to all the books studied.
Essentially, it would be the proof of God.
Come on we gotta go down there to at least to Dalamatia City or Babel/Dilmun and
search for these places.
Who got a few spare million??? ahahahahah!
We have to find out more about these places to either prove or disprove the
hunches and the leads being followed.
Hey I want talk about MARS
Sevens
posted
09-10-2007 04:53 PM
Hi Seek
quote:
So, I would be as it were, a kind of
student, seated on a stool before you,
Dont do that we are equals trying to
discover the truth in our own way and we are sharing our finds and thoughts into
the matter of truth.
Its great we have all differing ideas and thoughts that could lead to real
things through real discoveries.
In these discoveries could be great messages for mankind including other
civilizations not to mention current solar system changes.
I feel that we are our own master following the great Master from within through
the guidance of God in every aspect of our being. What we share in our
discoveries is brotherhood with varying ideas and anyone can join in and put
there ideas on the table concerning there view as in the ancient places and
associated research.
By the way over here its 11th Sept 07. That is a date that I was interested in,
in the timeline. See what we find.
So I say Seek lets search this out and follow our own within leadings in this
massive journey of the truth of the matter and see what we uncover in the
discovery.
On the Surface there appears to be many artifacts such as skulls, unusual rock
formations and other signs of life now petrified. As seen in these images.
Now I wonder if the Martians are demonstrating something to us like a tour into
there past by placing strategic evidence of there past in the way of the Rovers
so we find them where the Martians led us into a journey of a history lesson of
Mars and there culture.
We also know that water exists on Mars be it underground.
Now if this hypothesis is correct I think the Martians should clean up the other
Rover, give it a good car wash!
If a good car wash was given on the second rover that would prove the thought
process to this hypothesis of the Mars Test! and would prove a connection to
truth.
...Martians, if your there it would be a good time to get out polish and wax.
ahahahahahah! We are locked on to the journey!
Well I do invite the Martians to take us on a discovery journey through the
rovers. If that is the case I pray NASA release the pics in the good spirit of
discovery of ourselves.
Ethiopia is preparing to welcome the start of its 21st century at midnight
with a national celebration. VOA's Peter Heinlein in the Ethiopian capital
reports that a country that has known suffering and strife is taking a time
out for a moment of national pride.
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http://www.voanews.com/english/images/AP_Ethiopian_man_wears_novelty_sunglasses_in_central_Addis_Ababa_eng_195_11sep07.jpg[/img]
Man wears novelty sunglasses as he prepares for Coptic millennium
celebrations in Addis Ababa, 11 Sep 2007
The party has started, and it promises to go on for days. Crowds of people
have flooded the streets of Addis Ababa, greeting each other. This is the
dawn of a new millennium in Ethiopia, and it is something special.
Ethiopia is feeling especially proud because it is unique. Ethiopians follow
the Julian calendar, which is more than seven years behind the Gregorian
calendar, which is observed in most of the Christian world. But there is
also a feeling of hope, of a new beginning after centuries of hardship,
famine, war and disease.
So far it has been a mixed success.
Ethiopians are hoping the celebrations might help to change the country's
image as a poverty-stricken nation with an increasingly authoritarian
government, poor human-rights record. Ethiopia also has thousands of troops
stationed across the border in Somalia and tense relations with its northern
neighbor Eritrea.
Moreover, several events planned to mark the new millennium have been
canceled, either because of political disputes or security fears. A
10-kilometer Millennium Run, for which 35,000 people signed up, was scrapped
- as was a big food festival.
On top of that, sharp increases in staple food prices in recent days have
put a damper on the people's mood. And the expected flood of Ethiopian
expatriates back to their homeland for the occasion has failed to
materialize. Hotel and airline bookings are far below expectations.
Still, people on the streets are beaming. Ethiopian-born American citizen
Bethlehem Hailu Dejene, 24, visits her native country each year as part of
her doctoral studies in anthropology at Northwestern University in Chicago.
She says this millennium celebration means more than the one she witnessed
nearly eight years ago as a teenager in the United States.
"The Gregorian millennium was the thunder of the celebration was stolen
because of all that Y 2 K business. We were anxiously waiting for planes to
fall out of the sky, and all sorts of malfunctions to manifest themselves,"
she said. "But this one, people are proud. This is the one particular
calendar, so it is our millennium. No one is sharing it with us. And
secondly, people have started to see it as sort of an African millennium."
The biggest Millennium celebration is at a concert hall built especially for
the occasion by a private donor. Those attending the elaborate bash include
the heads of state of all Ethiopia's neighboring countries except Eritrea.
The headline event is a concert by the American music group The Black Eyed
Peas.
The cost of a ticket to that affair is more than $150, nearly twice the
average salary in Ethiopia. So to make it accessible to the average person,
the event is being broadcast nationwide. Sports Ministry official Eshetu
Gossaye says big screen televisions have been set up in big stadiums and
main squares all over the country.
"Almost in 10 cities in the country, we have a very big screen in the public
gathering areas, so the public can gather and different big cities to
celebrate this night together," said Gossaye.
Gossaye says the main stadium in Addis can hold more than 30,000 people for
the evening.
Many people are just out in the streets, or at quiet celebrations with
friends. Addis resident Getachew Morka, 27, says it is a time for people to
put aside political and economic differences, and to celebrate being
Ethiopian.
"Everybody is involved in this millennium, because the rich man is rich but
the poor people just get happiness because of 2000 on the Ethiopian
calendar. So its different from the other country," said Morka. "My calendar
is different, my spiritual, so many things are different from other
countries. So everybody's happy."
So the party has begun, despite forecasts of rain. It is just another issue
Ethiopians live with this time of year. Many government offices are planning
to be closed for several days, as Ethiopia marks the arrival of its own 21st
century.
Sevens
posted
09-12-2007 05:12 AM Baruch 3 and clues to rapture and the journey in metaphor
Hi
Im looking into Baruch 3 to see if I can find distant reflections to the current
conversation and journey.
Highlighted are the areas I feel have reflections in Metaphor to this journey.
quote:
The Third Heaven. 4 1 And I
Baruch said, Behold, Lord, Thou didst show me great and wonderful things; and
now 2 show me all things for the sake of the Lord. And the angel said to
me, Come, let us proceed. (And I proceeded) with the angel from that place
about one hundred and eighty-five days' 3 journey. And he showed me a
plain and a serpent, which appeared to be two hundred plethra 4 in length. And
he showed me Hades, and its appearance was dark and abominable. And I said, 5
Who is this dragon, and who is this monster around him? And the angel said,
The dragon is he 6 who eats the bodies of those who spend their life wickedly,
and he is nourished by them. And this is Hades, which itself also closely
resembles him, in that it also drinks about a cubit from 7 the sea, which does
not sink at all. Baruch said, And how does this happens? And the angel said,
Hearken, the Lord God made three hundred and sixty rivers, of which the chief
of 8 all are Alphias, Abyrus, and the Gericus; and because of these the sea
does not sink. And I said, I pray thee show me which is the tree which led
Adam astray. And the angel said to me, It is the vine, which the angel Sammael
planted, whereat the Lord God was angry, and He cursed him and his plant,
while also on this account He did not permit Adam to touch it, and
therefore 9 the devil being envious deceived him through his vine. [And
I Baruch said, Since also the vine has been the cause of such great evil,
and is under judgement of the curse of God, and was the 10 destruction of the
first created, how is it now so useful? And the angel said, Thou askest
aright. When God caused the deluge upon earth, and destroyed all flesh, and
four hundred and nine thousand giants, and the water rose fifteen cubits above
the highest mountains, then the water entered into paradise and
destroyed every flower; but it removed wholly without the bounds the shoot 11
of the vine and cast it outside. And when the earth appeared out of the water,
and Noah came out 12 of the ark, he began to plant of the plants which he
found. But he found also the shoot of the vine; and he took it, and was
reasoning in himself, What then is it ? And I came and spake to 13 him the
things concerning it. And he said, Shall I plant it, or what shall I do ?
Since Adam was destroyed because of it, let me not also meet with the anger of
God because of it. And saying 14 these things he prayed that God would
reveal to him what he should do concerning it. And when he had completed
the prayer which Lasted forty days, and having besought many things
and wept, 15 he said: Lord, I entreat thee to reveal to me what I shall
do concerning this plant. But God sent his angel Sarasael, and said to
him, Arise, Noah, and plant the shoot of the vine, for thus saith the Lord:
Its bitterness shall be changed into sweetness, and its curse shall become a
blessing, and that which is produced from it shall become the blood of God;
and as through it the human race obtained condemnation, so again through Jesus
Christ the Immanuel will they receive in Him the 16 upward calling, and the
entry into paradise] . Know therefore, O Baruch, that as Adam through
this very tree obtained condemnation, and was divested of the glory of God, so
also the men who now drink insatiably the wine which is begotten of it,
transgress worse than Adam, and are far from the 17 glory of God, and are
surrendering themselves to the eternal fire. For (no) good comes through
it. For those who drink it to surfeit do these things: neither does a brother
pity his brother, nor a father his son, nor children their parents, but from
the drinking of wine come all evils, such as murders, adulteries,
fornications, perjuries, thefts, and such like. And nothing good is
established by it. 5 1, 2 And I Baruch said to the angel, Let me ask thee one
thing, Lord. Since thou didst say to me 3 that the dragon drinks one cubit out
of the sea, say to me also, how great is his belly? And the angel said, His
belly is Hades; and as far as a plummet is thrown (by) three hundred men, so
great is his belly. Come, then, that I may show thee also greater works
than these. 6 1 And he took me and led me where the sun goes forth; and he
showed me a chariot and four, under which burnt a fire, and in the chariot was
sitting a man, wearing a crown of fire, (and) the chariot (was) drawn by
forty angels. And behold a bird circling before the sun, about nine 3
cubits away.
And I said to the angel, What is this bird? And he said to me, This is the 4,
5 guardian of the earth. And I said, Lord, how is he the guardian of the
earth? Teach me. And the angel said to me, This bird flies alongside of the
sun, and expanding his wings receives its fiery 6 rays. For if he were not
receiving them, the human race would not be preserved, nor any other 7 living
creature. But God appointed this bird thereto. And he expanded his wings, and
I saw on his right wing very large letters, as large as the space of a
threshing-floor, the size of about four 8 thousand modii; and the letters were
of gold. And the angel said to me, Read them. And I read, 9 and they ran thus:
Neither earth nor heaven bring me forth, but wings of fire bring me forth. And
10 I said, Lord, what is this bird, and what is his name? And the angel said
to me, His name is called 11 Phoenix.
I thought this part was interesting
Its bitterness shall be changed into sweetness, and its curse shall become a
blessing, and that which is produced from it shall become the blood of God; and
as through it the human race obtained condemnation, so again through Jesus
Christ the Immanuel will they receive in Him the 16 upward calling, and the
entry into paradise]
The Italics is in my mind speaking of rapture and is linked to a prayer that
lasted for 40 days. Its interesting how it relates to an ark, a refuge in this
case truth. Also this vine that was corrupted is involved, to it speaks of the
tree of life. It also seem to have an involvement as therein lays the truth and
the knowledge of the Father in Paradise.
All speaks to me about this journey and has interesting connections to all main
key factors in the research of the journey and confirms everything that has been
said. Its like looking back.
And now in this piece is description of Michael returning and appears to be
going through a sorting process. All reflections of our discussion over the
years.
To me its Michael of Nebadon that is being seen here. Again IIl highlight which
reflects the journey and the outcome as Michael arrives. Its like the harvest.
It could be in metaphor in reflection of the current journey.
quote:
The Fifth Heaven. 11 1, 2 And the
angel took me and led me thence to a fifth heaven, And the gate was closed.
And I said, Lord, is not this gate-way open that we may enter ? And the angel
said to me, We cannot enter until Michael comes, who holds the keys of the
Kingdom of Heaven; but wait and thou shalt see 3 the gIory of God. And
there was a great sound, as thunder. And I said, Lord, what is this sound? 4
And he said to me, Even now Michael, the commander of the angels, comes
down to receive the 5 prayers of men. And behold a voice came, Let the
gates be opened. And they opened them, and 6 there was a roar as of thunder.
And Michael came, and the angel who was with me came face to 7 face with
him and said, Hail, my commander, and that of all our order. And the commander
Michael said, Hail thou also, our brother, and the interpreter of the
revelations to those who pass through life 8 virtuously. And having
saluted one another thus, they stood still. And I saw the commander Michael,
holding an exceedingly great vessel; its depth was as great as the distance
from heaven to 9 earth, and its breadth as great as the distance from north to
south. And I said, Lord, what is that which Michael the archangel is holding?
And he said to me, This is where the merits of the righteous enter, and
such good works as they do, which are escorted before the heavenly God
. 12 1 And as I was conversing with them, behold angels came bearing
baskets full of flowers. And 2 they gave them to Michael. And I asked the
angel, Lord, who are these, and what are the things 3 brought hither from
beside them? And he said to me, These are angels (who) are over the 4, 5
righteous. And the archangel took the baskets, and cast them into the vessel.
And the angel 6 said to me, These flowers are the merits of the righteous. And
I saw other angels bearing baskets which were (neither) empty nor full.
And they began to lament, and did not venture to draw near, 7 because they had
not the prizes complete. And Michael cried and said, Come hither, also, ye
8 angels, bring what ye have brought. And Michael was exceedingly grieved, and
the angel who was with me, because they did not fill the vessel. 13 1 And
then came in like manner other angels weeping and bewailing, and saying with
fear, Behold how we are overclouded, O Lord, for we were delivered to evil
men, and we wish to depart from 2 them. And Michael said, Ye cannot depart
from them, in order that .the enemy may not prevail to 3 the end; but say to
me what ye ask. And they said, We pray thee, Michael our commander,
transfer us from them, for we cannot abide with wicked and foolish men, for
there is nothing good 4 in them, but every kind of unrighteousness and greed.
For we do not behold them entering [into Church at all, nor among spiritual
fathers, nor into any good work. But where there is murder,] there also are
they in the midst, and where are fornications, adulteries, thefts, slanders,
perjuries, jealousies, drunkenness, strife, envy, murmurings, whispering,
idolatry, divination, and such like, 5 then are they workers of such works,
and of others worse. Wherefore we entreat that we may depart from them. And
Michael said to the angels, Wait till I learn from the Lord what shall come to
pass. 14 1 And in that very hour Michael departed, and the doors were closed.
And there was a sound as 2 thunder. And I asked the angel, What is the sound?
And he said to me, Michael is even now presenting the merits of men to God.
15 1, 2 And in that very hour Michael descended, and the gate was opened; and
he brought oil. And as for the angels which brought the baskets which were
full, he filled them with oil, saying, Take it away, reward our friends
an hundredfold, and those who have laboriously wrought good works. 3 For those
who sowed virtuously, also reap virtuously. And he said also to those bringing
the half-empty baskets, Come hither ye also; take away the reward according as
ye brought, and 4 deliver it to the sons of men. [Then he said also to those
who brought the full and to those who brought the half-empty baskets: Go and
bless our friends, and say to them that thus saith the Lord, Ye are faithful
over a few things, I will set you over many things; enter into the joy of your
Lord.] 16 1 And turning he said also to those who brought nothing: Thus
saith the Lord, Be not sad of a 2 countenance, and weep not, nor let the sons
of men alone. But since they angered me in their works, go and make them
envious and angry and provoked against a people that is no people, a 3 people
that has no understanding. Further, besides these, send forth the caterpillar
and the unwinged locust, and the mildew, and the common locust (and) hail with
lightnings and anger, and 4 punish them severely with the sword and with
death, and their children with demons. For they did not hearken to my voice,
nor did they observe my commandments, nor do them, but were despisers of my
commandments, and insolent towards the priests who proclaimed my words to
them. 17 1, 2 And while he yet spake, the door was closed, and we withdrew.
And the angel took me and 3 restored me to the place where I was at the
beginning. And having come to myself, I gave glory 4 to God, who counted me
worthy of such honor. Wherefore do ye also, brethren, who obtained such a
revelation, yourselves also glorify God, so that He also may glorify you, now
and ever, and to all eternity. Amen.
I feel it seem to contain parallel reflections to the conversation.
quote:
14 1 And I answered and said: 'Lo! Thou hast shown me the method of the
times, and that which shall be alter these things, and Thou hast said unto
me, that the retribution, which has been spoken of by Thee, shall come upon
2 the nations . And now I know that those who have sinned are many, and
they have lived in prosperity, and departed from the world, but that few
nations will be left in those times, to whom those words shall be said which
Thou didst 3 say. For what advantage is there in this, or what (evil), worse
than what we have seen befall us, are we to expect to see? 4, 5 But again I
will speak in Thy presence: What have they profited who had knowledge before
Thee, and have not walked in vanity as the rest of the nations, and have not
said to the dead: "Give 6 us life," but always feared Thee, and have not left
Thy ways? And lo! they have been carried off, 7 nor on their account hast Thou
had mercy on Zion. And if others did evil, it was due to Zion, that on account
of the works of those who wrought good works she should be forgiven, and 8
should not be overwhelmed on account of the works of those who wrought
unrighteousness.
But who, O Lord, my Lord, will comprehend Thy judgement , Or who will
search out the profoundness of Thy way? Or who will think out the weight of
Thy path? 9 Or who will be able to think out Thy incomprehensible counsel? Or
who of those that are born has ever found The beginning or end of Thy
wisdom?
10, 11 For we have all been made like a breath. For as the breath ascends
involuntarily, and again dies, so it is with the nature of men, who depart not
according to their own will, and know not 12 what will befall them in the end.
For the righteous justly hope for the end, and without fear depart from
this habitation, because they have with Thee a store of works preserved in
treasuries.
13 On this account also these without fear leave this world, and trusting
with joy they hope to 14 receive the world which Thou hast promised them.
But as for us --- woe to us,
Quite an amazing scripture. Reflects
everything looking back to the experience and the research and discussions in
the journey.
The above to me speaks of yes, life after death but can also apply to rapture in
judgement.
For the righteous justly hope for
the end, and without fear depart from this habitation, because they have with
Thee a store of works preserved in treasuries.
Rapture and connected to the
treasuries!! The ancient places.
posted
09-12-2007 06:23 AM
Another fragment in Baruch 2
quote:
20 1 Therefore, behold! the days
come, And the times shall hasten more than the former , And the seasons
shall speed on more than those that are past, And the years shall pass more
quickly than the present (years). 2 Therefore have I now taken away Zion,
That I may the more speedily visit the world in its season. 3 Now therefore
hold fast in thy heart everything that I command thee, And seal it in the
recesses of thy mind. 4 And then I will show thee the judgement of My might,
And My ways which are unsearchable. 5 Go therefore and sanctify thyself
seven days , and eat no bread, nor drink water, nor speak to 6 anyone. A
nd afterwards come to that place and I will reveal Myself to thee, and
speak true things with thee, and I will give thee commandment regarding the
method of the times; for they are coming and tarry not.'
and
quote:
And reprove accordingly the angel
of death, and let Thy glory appear, and let the might of Thy beauty be known,
and let Sheol be sealed so that from this time forward it may not receive
the dead, and let the treasuries of 24 souls restore those which are
enclosed in them. For there have been many years like those that are
desolate from the days of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob, and of all those who
are like them, who 25 sleep in the earth, on whose account Thou didst say that
Thou hadst created the world. And now 26 quickly show Thy glory, and do not
defer what has been promised by Thee. ' And (when) I had completed the
words of this prayer I was greatly weakened.
1 As the impulse of anger against evil, so is the impulse of joy over what is
lovely, and brings in of its fruits without restraint: 2 My joy is the Lord
and my impulse is toward Him: this path of mine is excellent: 3 For I have
a helper, the Lord. 4 He hath caused me to know Himself, without grudging,
by His simplicity: His kindness has humbled His
greatness. 5 He became like me, in order that I might receive Him:
He was reckoned like myself in order that I might put Him on; 7 And I trembled
not when I saw Him: because He was gracious to me: 8 Like my nature He became
that I might learn Him and like my form, that I might not turn back from Him:
9 The Father of knowledge is the word of knowledge: 10 He who created wisdom
is wiser than His works: 11 And He who created me when yet I was not knew what
I should do when I came into being: 12 Wherefore He pitied me in His abundant
grace: and granted me to ask from Him and to receive from His sacrifice: 13
Because He it is that is incorrupt, the fulness of the ages and the of them.
14 He hath given Him to be seen of them that are His, in order that they may
recognize Him that made them: and that they might not suppose that they came
of themselves: 15 For knowledge He hath appointed as its way, hath widened
it and extended it; and brought to all perfection; 16 And set over it the
traces of His light, and I walked therein from the beginning even to the end
. 17 For by Him it was wrought, and He was resting in the Son, and for its
salvation He will take hold of everything. 18 And the Most High shall be known
in His Saints, to announce to those that have songs of the coming of the Lord:
19 That they may go forth to meet Him, and may sing to Him with joy and with
the harp of many tones: 20 The seers shall come before Him and they shall be
seen before Him, 21 And they shall praise the Lord for His love:
because He is near and beholdeth. 22 And hatred shall be taken from the
earth, and along with jealousy it shall be drowned: 23 For ignorance hath
been destroyed, because the knowledge of the Lord hath arrived . 24
They who make songs shall sing the grace of the Lord Most High; 25 And
they shall bring their songs, and their heart shall be like the day: and like
the excellent beauty of the Lord their pleasant song; 26 And there shall
neither be anything that breathes without knowledge nor any that is dumb:
27 For He hath given a mouth to His creation, to open the voice of the mouth
towards Him, to praise Him: 28 Confess ye His power, and show forth His
grace. Hallelujah.
and the book written in the finger of
God
quote:
The reference to the sealed document
sent by God is one of the great mysteries of the collection.
1 Joy is of the saints! and who shall put it on, but they alone? 2 Grace is
of the elect! and who shall receive it except those who trust in it from the
beginning? 3 Love is of the elect? And who shall put it on except those who
have possessed it from the beginning? 4 Walk ye in the knowledge of the Most
High without grudging: to His exultation and to the perfection of His
knowledge. 5 And His thought was like a letter; His will descended from on
high, and it was sent like an arrow which is violently from the bow: 6 And
many hands rushed to the letter to seize it and to take and read it: 7 And it
escaped their fingers and they were affrighted at it and at the seal that was
upon it. 8 Because it was not permitted to them to loose its seal: for the
power that was over the seal was greater than they . 9 But those who saw
it went after the letter that they might know where it would alight, and who
should read it and who should hear it. 10 But a wheel received it and came
over it: 11 And there was with it a sign of the Kingdom and of the
Government: 12 And everything which tried to move the wheel it mowed
and cut down: 13 And it gathered the multitude of adversaries, and bridged the
rivers and crossed over and rooted up many forests and made a broad path. 14
The head went down to the feet for down to the feet ran the wheel, and that
which was a sign upon it. 15 The letter was one of command, for there were
included in it all districts; 16 And there was seen at its head, the head
which was revealed even the Son of Truth from the Most High Father, 17 And He
inherited and took possession of everything. And the thought of many was
brought to nought. 18 And all the apostates hasted and fled away. And
those who persecuted and were enraged became extinct, 19 And the letter was
a great volume, which was wholly written by the finger of God: 20 And the name
of the Father was on it and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, to rule for
ever and ever. Hallelujah.
I reckon the letter written in the
finger of God is the Urantia Book.
It is all about "the Kingdom and of the Government:" The Book is all
about The Universal government of Paradise!
sevens
Posted:
Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject:
Hi everyone,
I really appreciate the replies and I found them all interesting and with
depth.
I have spoken to the author and he definitely see the UB and myself as the
enemy.
His reply was quite lively and judgmental, so in light of that I mentioned my
journey and things that I felt and actually invited him on the journey to the
ancient places and the the "Quest for the Seven commands" as we know those
commands inscribed in stone slabs lay there.
But anyway I thought he would be good for the test of everything on the side
of scepticism as we can test out these things from an extreme level of pride
and prejudice without being teachable based upon the ancient foundations in
what exist there and what the UB mentions.
I also mentioned there is a test of all the information in all religions
regarding the purposes of these places and his material is quite welcome as
all is on the table including attitude. All things presented are being
reviewed by the Most highs, the Ancients of Days and the Paradise Government.
Anyway I haven't had a response yet, Im sure he is investigating everything
finding flaws. Like what Colter mentioned its just begun, I'm sure he relates
to the persecutions. That could be right in that analogy. As truth arises each
day the opposite response there will be. They are all affrighted!
I know the truth will stand as its on the biggest rock remnant of the Paradise
Government on Earth in the deepest places and will stand up to anything. I
tell you this 40 day test including extension is like a trap, its a snare, a
spiritual snare. Anyone can submit anything on the table including an attitude
by thought or voice or even in an post.
But when this snare activates as truth arises, all the irrelevance will be
carried off in the wind. The discovery of what we find will determine the
outcome of the snare or stumbling block but everything will be refined based
upon truth.
The truth includes the book written by the finger of the Paradise Government
as I found in the Odes of Solomon.
Here is a fragment and here is an indication of what this guy is refuting in
my mind
1 As the impulse of anger against evil, so is the impulse of joy over what is
lovely, and brings in of its fruits without restraint: 2 My joy is the Lord
and my impulse is toward Him: this path of mine is excellent:
3 For I have a helper, the Lord. 4 He
hath caused me to know Himself, without grudging, by
His simplicity:
His kindness has humbled His greatness. 5 He became like me, in order that I
might receive Him: He was reckoned like myself in order that I might put Him
on; 7 And I trembled not when I saw Him: because He was gracious to me: 8 Like
my nature He became that I might learn Him and like my form, that I might not
turn back from Him: 9 The Father of knowledge is the word of knowledge:
10 He who created wisdom is wiser than His works: 11 And He who created me
when yet I was not knew what I should do when I came into being: 12 Wherefore
He pitied me in His abundant grace: and granted me to ask from Him and to
receive from His sacrifice: 13 Because He it
is that is incorrupt, the fulness of the ages and the of them.
14 He hath given Him to be seen of them that are His, in order that they may
recognize Him that made them: and that they might not suppose that they came
of themselves: 15 For knowledge He hath
appointed as its way, hath widened it and extended it; and brought to all
perfection; 16 And set over it the traces of His light, and
I walked therein from the beginning even to the end. 17 For by Him it was wrought, and He was resting in the Son,
and for its salvation He will take hold of
everything. 18 And the Most High shall be known in His Saints, to announce to
those that have songs of the coming of the Lord: 19 That they may go forth to
meet Him, and may sing to Him with joy and with the harp of many tones: 20 The
seers shall come before Him and they shall be seen before Him, 21 And
they shall praise the Lord for His love:
because He is near and beholdeth. 22 And hatred shall be taken from the
earth, and along with jealousy it shall be drowned: 23
For ignorance hath been destroyed, because
the knowledge of the Lord hath
arrived . 24 They who make songs shall sing the grace of the Lord Most
High; 25 And they shall bring their
songs, and their heart shall be like the day: and like the excellent beauty of
the Lord their pleasant song; 26 And there shall
neither be anything that breathes without knowledge nor any that is dumb:
27 For He hath given a mouth to His creation, to open the voice of the mouth
towards Him, to praise Him: 28 Confess ye His
power, and show forth His grace. Hallelujah.
And in the following the book written in the finger of God
Quote:
The reference to the
sealed document sent by God is one of the great mysteries of the
collection.
1 Joy is of the saints! and who shall put
it on, but they alone? 2 Grace is of the elect!
and who shall receive it except those who trust in it from the beginning?
3 Love is of the elect? And who shall put it on except those who
have possessed it from the beginning? 4 Walk ye
in the knowledge of the Most High without grudging: to His exultation and
to the perfection of His knowledge. 5 And His thought was like a letter;
His will descended from on high, and it was sent like an arrow which is
violently from the bow: 6 And many hands rushed to the letter to seize it
and to take and read it: 7 And it escaped their fingers and they
were affrighted at it
and at the seal that was upon it.
8 Because it
was not permitted to them to loose its seal: for the power that was over
the seal was greater than they . 9 But those who saw it went
after the letter that they might know where it would alight, and who
should read it and who should hear it. 10 But a wheel received it and came
over it: 11 And
there was with it a sign of
the Kingdom and of the Government:12 And everything which tried to move the
wheel it mowed and cut down: 13 And it gathered the multitude of
adversaries, and bridged the rivers and crossed over and rooted up many
forests and made a broad path. 14 The head went down to the feet for down
to the feet ran the wheel, and that which was a sign upon it.
15 The letter
was one of command, for there were included in it all districts; 16 And
there was seen at its head, the head which was revealed even the Son of
Truth from the Most High Father, 17 And He inherited and
took possession of everything. And the
thought of many was brought to nought. 18 And all the apostates
hasted and fled away. And those who persecuted and were enraged became
extinct, 19 And
the letter was a great volume, which was wholly written by the finger of
God: 20 And the name of the Father was on it and of the Son and of
the Holy Spirit, to rule for ever and ever. Hallelujah.
I reckon the letter written in the finger of God is the Urantia Book. The
wheel I believe is the symbol of the Book regarding knowledge of all levels of
heaven, his whole creation and is the book that will pass through the
transition.
It is all about "the Kingdom and of the
Government:" The Book is all about The Universal government of
Paradise! and by the way the wheel could be in metaphor to the Urantia symbol,
a circle. The circle is the symbol of the Father.
Anyway that's what I feel, the guy should be a bit careful in his overly
aggressive judgment attitude.
By the way Ive been doing much posting on thendtimes.com forum. The journey
has still been a phenomena and is so remarkable and inspiring. Just recently I
have reading more into 2 & 3 Baruch. Much of it is really a reflection of this
whole journey to the foundations on many levels and has some real Paradise
energy. The journey itself in the research has taken many paths following
Symbolism from Jesus' so called tomb to Dalamatia to even Mars, a non breather
planet which may contain the civilization that live nearby in another Sphere!
and all the way to Jerusem, the System Capital in design. The clue being the
triangles, diamonds and circles and symbolism that reflects this basic design,
the design of all Paradise physical capitals on a planet.
according to the UB.
The journey has taken me there and the research into the rapture thought. I
reckon I have found about 30 references that relate to rapture from all the
scripts. I have also found mentions of the 40 day test in all the books which
in metaphor reflects this reality of the journey to the ancient foundations.
Its just brilliant from where I sit and see. Its all coming together in
splendour. real Sevenfold splendour.
Dale E would be better of studying with an teachable and open mind and learn
something, the truth! in faith! and not through judgment of another's path or
presentation.
Here are highlights I
did last night in the Odes of Solomon looking for reflections to the journey
to the foundations and the intent and by whom!
If one has truly found an
inner source of peace, then nothing anyone else says or does can change
that. There are no snares on the journey for those who are secure in their
faith.
Absolutely, that's why I invited him and lets see the truth of the matter on all
aspects since we have something physical to measure against.
Lets not just talk about it endlessly, lets see it for ourselves eh!
Lets all go on a simple journey of faith including Dale E.
No fear in that or on this voyage of truth!
Actually I thought he was
a good writer and would be an excellent UB researcher. Pity about the prejudice
though. I thought a demonstration to the ancient places might impress him to see
things more relaxed and openly with a wider viewpoint which does have
reflectivity.
Mind you he thinks that I'm a panderer, pandering, I which I admitted was true
but it works for ma and Paradise doesn't seem to mind. Its all quite fraternal
and respectful.
By the way people who
operate on the fear/judgment level and run to the hills in light of truth
relying on outworn ritual which can include doctrine, the test is a snare and a
stumbling block to that attitude. Through of Faith in truth we have
nothing to worry about except feel exceeding joy!
Through Faith in truth we
have nothing to worry about except feel exceeding joy! We know the fruits of
that because we feel less judgmental and more accepting of where people are at
in that time of there journey because we have all been there in our own way or
still there in the judgment/fear cycle.
sevens
Posted:
Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:26 pm Post subject: Link from the
tomb to Mars
Hi Ive been using a little
creative imagination in the journey.
I came across this thread that lead me to Jesus tomb and then to the great
Pyramid and then on to Dalamatia and then to Mars and then ultimately Jerusem.
Ive been following symbolism in the triangle, circles, diamonds, www or mmm
shapes.
I believe it could very lead to some sort of contact and I feel a sub breather
civilization lives there where sentient life evolved there due to the evolution
of the planet.
I thought it could be interesting.
To me its just bloody exciting!
Quote:
PAPER 98 - THE MELCHIZEDEK
TEACHINGS IN THE OCCIDENT, Oct 19 2000
* line 70: Having grown out of the earlier
religious forms of worship of the family gods into the tribal reverence for
Mars, the god of war, it was natural that the later religion of the Latins
was more of a political observance than were the intellectual systems of the
Greeks and Brahmans or the more spiritual religions of several other
peoples.
PAPER 49 - THE INHABITED WORLDS, Oct 19 2000
* line 65: Beings such as the Urantia races
are classified as mid-breathers; you represent the average or typical
breathing order of mortal existence. If
intelligent creatures should exist on a planet with an atmosphere
similar to that of your near neighbor, Venus, they would belong to the
superbreather group, while those inhabiting a
planet with an atmosphere as thin as that of your outer neighbor,
Mars, would be denominated subbreathers.
In the red highlight in the above how the English alters from
If intelligent
creatures "should" existspeaking about life conditions on Venus
for a super breather although the UB does qualify that a race of this type
doesn't exist in Venus.
However, when speaking about Mars the authors change there English to "while
those inhabiting a planet with an atmosphere the key word being "While
THOSE inhabiting a planet" Then in the
same breath in another section of the UB virtually confirms Mars as suitable as
a Sub-breather people. Put two and two together method and through an
elimination process and I believe you have the answer.
The UB Book is telling you without telling you that a civilisation of
Sub-breather exist on Mars and which confirmed by this statement "
Quote:
PAPER 49 - THE INHABITED
WORLDS, Oct 19 2000
* line 99: You would be more than
interested in the planetary conduct of this type of mortal because such a
race of beings inhabitsa spherein
close proximity to Urantia.
Well there you go, it doesn't speak of another Galaxy or a far distant place in
the Universe, it speaks of a sphere close by to Urantia who are a people of sub
breathers and who seems to be quite impressive in there conduct.
They seem quite friendly and fraternal.
I suppose its a process of Elimination of the worlds that would suitable for a
sub breather group. That would Mars the only planet that has a thin atmosphere
and does have all the ingredients for Sub breather life evolution.
Here is a little more on the special section of the Worlds of the Non breathers
but I suppose this could apply to Sub breathers. Note that if you compiled all
the information in the Urantia Book about this race you would have a clear view
of this nearby sub breather civilisation.
Quote:
3. WORLDS OF THE NONBREATHERS
The majority of inhabited planets are peopled with the breathing type of
intelligent beings. But there are also
orders of mortals who are able to live on worlds with little or no air.
Of the Orvonton inhabited worlds this type amounts to less than seven
per cent. In Nebadon this percentage is less than three. In all Satania
there are only nine such worlds.
There are so very few of the nonbreather
type of inhabited worlds in Satania because this more recently
organized section of Norlatiadek still abounds in meteoric space bodies; and
worlds without a protective friction atmosphere are subject to incessant
bombardment by these wanderers. Even some of the comets consist of meteor
swarms, but as a rule they are disrupted smaller bodies of matter.
Millions upon millions of meteorites enter the atmosphere of Urantia daily,
coming in at the rate of almost two hundred miles a second.
On the nonbreathing worlds the advanced
races must do much to protect themselves from
meteor damage by making electrical installations which operate to consume or
shunt the meteors. Great danger confronts them when they venture
beyond these protected zones. These worlds are also
subject to disastrous electrical storms of a
nature unknown on Urantia. During such times of tremendous
energy fluctuation the inhabitants must take refuge in their special
structures of protective insulation.
Life on the worlds of the nonbreathers is
radically different from what it is on Urantia.
The nonbreathers do not eat food or drink water as do the Urantia races.
The reactions of the nervous system, the
heat-regulating mechanism, and the metabolism of these specialized peoples
are radically different from such functions of
Urantia mortals. Almost every act of living, aside from reproduction,
differs, and even the methods of procreation are
somewhat different.
On the nonbreathing worlds the animal species are radically unlike those
found on the atmospheric planets. The
nonbreathing plan of life varies from the technique of existence on an
atmospheric world; even in survival their peoples differ, being candidates
for Spirit fusion. Nevertheless, these beings enjoy life and carry
forward the activities of the realm with the same relative trials and joys
that are experienced by the mortals living on atmospheric worlds.
In mind and character the nonbreathers do
not differ from other mortal types.
You would be more than interested in the
planetary conduct of this type of mortal because
such a race of beings inhabits a sphere in
close proximity to Urantia.
How exciting to be on the brink of contact in a real way in real discoveries in
the threads of truth. From the Father in Paradise and of the Government.
I think they use our water from the ocean and transport it to Mars...just from
what I read and the images Ive seen.
The above description of
the Sub breathers who live close by to us sound like and match's the description
of the Greys and perhaps variations of there genes...who knows just speculating
here.
Anyway I thought I would
try a test and see if we can make contact.
I was thinking what would be the purpose? If that was right.
However on second thoughts if a group of non breathers live close to us could it
be then the moon,, the non breather sphere. That's a sphere which is close by.
Could it be that a civilization evolved there. If I remember right the Earth
took the moons atmosphere away through leakage.
Could it be that in that time life evolved there and as the atmosphere gradually
depleted a race of non breathers evolved. And because of the danger of
meteorites they had to employed methods to protect themselves. The Moon is a non
breather sphere.
Perhaps the Moonites or the Moon people overtime evolved technology to travel
and could to Mars leaving remnants. Maybe our history goes back so far in to
space.
Thinking on the run a bit here but you do have a point.
1. (n.) The quality or state of being next in time, place, causation,
influence, etc.; immediate nearness, either
in place, blood, or alliance
It must be very close like next to us.
But then speaking of the Moon reading on Further. In the Same breath.
Quote:
Beings such as the Urantia races are classified as mid-breathers; you
represent the average or typical breathing order of mortal existence. If
intelligent creatures should exist on a planet with an atmosphere similar to
that of your near neighbor, Venus, they would belong to the superbreather
group, while those inhabiting a planet with an atmosphere as thin as that of
your outer neighbor, Mars, would be
denominated subbreathers.
(But then speaking of the Moon as the sphere for the Non breathers race
close to us)
If mortals
should inhabit a planet devoid of air, like your
moon, they would belong to the separate order of
nonbreathers.
This type represents a radical or extreme
adjustment to the planetary environment and is
separately considered. Nonbreathers account for the remaining
one and one-half per cent of Satania
worlds.
Its quite possible its the Moon.
"like your moon," Hint Hint!!
then
Quote:
PAPER 49 - THE INHABITED
WORLDS, Oct 19 2000
* line 99: You would be more than interested
in the planetary conduct of this
type of mortal because such a
race of beings inhabits a sphere in close proximity to Urantia
" a planet devoid of air, like your moon,"
ah but the moon is a planet now! a Non
breathing Planet!! using the UB's definition.
and the Non breather people are Bipeds erect .
Quote:
"There are great differences
between the mortals of the different worlds, even among those belonging to
the same intellectual and physical types,
but all mortals of will dignity are erect
animals, bipeds."
I think it seems to paint a picture that we are familiar with.
Quote:
6. The energizing types. Not
all worlds are alike in the manner of taking in energy. Not all inhabited
worlds have an atmospheric ocean suited to respiratory exchange of gases,
such as is present on Urantia. During the earlier and the later stages of
many planets, beings of your present order could not exist;
and when the respiratory factors of a
planet are very high or very low, but when
all other prerequisites to intelligent life are
adequate, the Life Carriers often establish
on such worlds a modified form of mortal existence,
beings who are competent to effect their
life-process exchanges directly by means of light-energy and
the firsthand power transmutations of the Master
Physical Controllers.
There are six differing types of animal and mortal nutrition: The
subbreathers employ the first type of nutrition, the marine dwellers the
second, the mid-breathers the third, as on Urantia. The superbreathers
employ the fourth type of energy intake, while the nonbreathers utilize the fifth order of
nutrition and energy.The sixth technique of energizing is
limited to the midway creatures.
I'm just thinking all
those UFOs that just vanish, is that the work of the energy/light transmutation
allowed by the master physical controllers?? Is that the source of this
technique that leads to dimensional entry and escape. Is that the reason they
can vanish in a flash and turn at 90 degrees in haste. Because they can override
our physics, tapping into another God given gift of energy/light transmutation.
That's probably because of there harsh conditions in there evolution, they use
the energy to help them survive the bombardments of the meteorites.
I reckon they have been around for a long time and maybe even visited Mars, I
wouldn't be surprised if the colonized Mars for a time. I feel the Non breathers
could exist in all conditions having no lungs except for perhaps a super
breather world.
and lastly
Quote:
PAPER 131 - THE WORLD'S
RELIGIONS, Oct 19 2000
* line 131: "Says the Lord: `You are all recipients of my divine power; all
men enjoy my ministry of mercy. I derive
great pleasure in the multiplication of righteous men throughout the land.
In both the beauties of nature and the virtues of men does the Prince of
Heaven seek to reveal himself and to show forth his righteous nature.
Since the olden people did not know my name,
I manifested myself by being
born into the world as a visible existence and endured such abasement even
that man should not forget my name. I am the
maker of heaven and earth; the sun andthe moonand all the stars obey my will. I am the
ruler of all creatures on land and in the four seas. Although I am great and
supreme, still I have regard for the prayer of the poorest man. If any
creature will worship me, I will hear his prayer and grant the desire of his
heart.'
Perhaps the Moon People
Colonized Mars as it was more akin to there type. Maybe the the a moon people
civilization currently live there but underground? They use this energy/light
energy to power up there cities and use the energy for other uses like travel
and protection from meteorites.
I reckon they have been
around for a long time and maybe even visited Mars, I wouldn't be surprised if
the colonized Mars for a time. I feel the Non breathers could exist in all
conditions having no lungs except for perhaps a super breather world.
Perhaps when there
evolution began into sentient beings??
Quote:
PAPER 57 - THE ORIGIN OF
URANTIA,
line 158: 1,500,000,000 years ago the earth was two thirds its present size,
while the moon was nearing its present mass. Earth's rapid gain over
the moon in size enabled it to begin the slow robbery of the
little atmosphere which its
satellite originally had.
Digging a little deeper
Quote:
line 129:
Normal adjustments to planetary conditions
follow the general physical patterns previously considered.
The worlds of the nonbreathers typify the radical
or extreme adjustment, but other types are
also included in this group.
Experimental worlds are usually ideally adapted to the typical life forms,
and on these decimal planets the Life Carriers
attempt to produce beneficial variations in the standard life
designs. Since your world is an experimental
planet, it differs markedly from its sister spheres in Satania; many
forms of life have appeared on Urantia that are not found elsewhere;
likewise are many common species absent from your
planet.
sevens
2. PLANETARY PHYSICAL
TYPES
There is a standard and basic
pattern of vegetable and animal life in each system. But the Life Carriers are
oftentimes confronted with the necessity of modifying these basic patterns to
conform to the varying physical conditions which confront them on numerous
worlds of space. They foster a generalized system type of mortal creature, but
there are seven distinct physical types as well as thousands upon thousands of
minor variants of these seven outstanding differentiations:
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1. Atmospheric types.
2. Elemental types.
3. Gravity types.
4. Temperature types.
5. Electric types.
6. Energizing types.
7. Unnamed types.
The Satania system contains all
of these types and numerous intermediate groups, although some are very
sparingly represented.
1. The atmospheric types.
The physical differences of the worlds of mortal habitation are chiefly
determined by the nature of the atmosphere; other influences which contribute
to the planetary differentiation of life are relatively minor.
The present atmospheric status
of Urantia is almost ideal for the support of the breathing type of man, but
the human type can be so modified that it can live on both the
superatmospheric and the subatmospheric planets. Such modifications also
extend to the animal life, which differs greatly on the various inhabited
spheres. There is a very great modification of animal orders on both the sub-
and the superatmospheric worlds.
Of the atmospheric types in
Satania, about two and one-half per cent are subbreathers, about five per cent
superbreathers, and over ninety-one per cent are mid-breathers, altogether
accounting for ninety-eight and one-half per cent of the Satania worlds.
Beings such as the Urantia
races are classified as mid-breathers; you represent the average or typical
breathing order of mortal existence. If intelligent creatures should exist on
a planet with an atmosphere similar to that of your near neighbor, Venus, they
would belong to the superbreather group, while those inhabiting a planet with
an atmosphere as thin as that of your outer neighbor, Mars, would be
denominated subbreathers.
If mortals should inhabit a
planet devoid of air, like your moon, they would belong to the separate order
of nonbreathers. This type represents a radical or extreme adjustment to the
planetary environment and is separately considered. Nonbreathers account for
the remaining one and one-half per cent of Satania worlds.
2. The elemental types.
These differentiations have to do with the relation of mortals to water, air,
and land, and there are four distinct species of intelligent life as they are
related to these habitats. The Urantia races are of the land order.
It is quite impossible for you
to envisage the environment which prevails during the early ages of some
worlds. These unusual conditions make it necessary for the evolving animal
life to remain in its marine nursery habitat for longer periods than on those
planets which very early provide a hospitable land-and-atmosphere environment.
Conversely, on some worlds of the superbreathers, when the planet is not too
large, it is sometimes expedient to provide for a mortal type which can
readily negotiate atmospheric passage. These air navigators sometimes
intervene between the water and land groups, and they always live in a measure
upon the ground, eventually evolving into land dwellers.
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But on some worlds, for ages
they continue to fly even after they have become land-type beings.
It is both amazing and amusing
to observe the early civilization of a primitive race of human beings taking
shape, in one case, in the air and treetops and, in another, midst the shallow
waters of sheltered tropic basins, as well as on the bottom, sides, and shores
of these marine gardens of the dawn races of such extraordinary spheres. Even
on Urantia there was a long age during which primitive man preserved himself
and advanced his primitive civilization by living for the most part in the
treetops as did his earlier arboreal ancestors. And on Urantia you still have
a group of diminutive mammals (the bat family) that are air navigators, and
your seals and whales, of marine habitat, are also of the mammalian order.
In Satania, of the elemental
types, seven per cent are water, ten per cent air, seventy per cent land, and
thirteen per cent combined land-and-air types. But these modifications of
early intelligent creatures are neither human fishes nor human birds. They are
of the human and prehuman types, neither superfishes nor glorified birds but
distinctly mortal.
3. The gravity types. By
modification of creative design, intelligent beings are so constructed that
they can freely function on spheres both smaller and larger than Urantia, thus
being, in measure, accommodated to the gravity of those planets which are not
of ideal size and density.
The various planetary types of
mortals vary in height, the average in Nebadon being a trifle under seven
feet. Some of the larger worlds are peopled with beings who are only about two
and one-half feet in height. Mortal stature ranges from here on up through the
average heights on the average-sized planets to around ten feet on the smaller
inhabited spheres. In Satania there is only one race under four feet in
height. Twenty per cent of the Satania inhabited worlds are peopled with
mortals of the modified gravity types occupying the larger and the smaller
planets.
4. The temperature types.
It is possible to create living beings who can withstand temperatures both
much higher and much lower than the life range of the Urantia races. There are
five distinct orders of beings as they are classified with reference to
heat-regulating mechanisms. In this scale the Urantia races are number three.
Thirty per cent of Satania worlds are peopled with races of modified
temperature types. Twelve per cent belong to the higher temperature ranges,
eighteen per cent to the lower, as compared with Urantians, who function in
the mid-temperature group.
5. The electric types.
The electric, magnetic, and electronic behavior of the worlds varies greatly.
There are ten designs of mortal life variously fashioned to withstand the
differential energy of the spheres. These ten varieties also react in slightly
different ways to the chemical rays of ordinary sunlight. But these slight
physical variations in no way affect the intellectual or the spiritual life.
Of the electric groupings of
mortal life, almost twenty-three per cent belong to class number four, the
Urantia type of existence. These types are distributed as follows: number 1,
one per cent; number 2, two per cent; number 3, five per cent; number 4,
twenty-three per cent; number 5, twenty-seven per cent;
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number 6, twenty-four per cent;
number 7, eight per cent; number 8, five per cent; number 9, three per cent;
number 10, two per cent--in whole percentages.
6. The energizing types.
Not all worlds are alike in the manner of taking in energy. Not all inhabited
worlds have an atmospheric ocean suited to respiratory exchange of gases, such
as is present on Urantia. During the earlier and the later stages of many
planets, beings of your present order could not exist; and when the
respiratory factors of a planet are very high or very low, but when all other
prerequisites to intelligent life are adequate, the Life Carriers often
establish on such worlds a modified form of mortal existence, beings who are
competent to effect their life-process exchanges directly by means of
light-energy and the firsthand power transmutations of the Master Physical
Controllers.
There are six differing types
of animal and mortal nutrition: The subbreathers employ the first type of
nutrition, the marine dwellers the second, the mid-breathers the third, as on
Urantia. The superbreathers employ the fourth type of energy intake, while the
nonbreathers utilize the fifth order of nutrition and energy. The sixth
technique of energizing is limited to the midway creatures.
7. The unnamed types.
There are numerous additional physical variations in planetary life, but all
of these differences are wholly matters of anatomical modification,
physiologic differentiation, and electrochemical adjustment. Such distinctions
do not concern the intellectual or the spiritual life.
The City of the Journey confirmed Sat Sep 15,
2007 1:05 pm
Hi
Here is some more from Baruch, I must say to its very powerful and mighty
information a reflection.
Quote:
THE BOOK OF THE APOCALYPSE OF BARUCH
THE SON OF NERIAH
[Translated from the Greek into Syriac.]
From The Apocrypha and Pseudeipgrapha of the Old Testament by R. H. Charles,
vol. II , Oxford Press
And He hath shown
to us that which is to be, And hath not
concealed from us what will befall in the
end. 9 Before therefore judgement exact its
own, And truth that which is its due, Let
us prepare our soul That we may possess, and not be taken possession of,
And that we may hope and not be put to shame, And
that we may rest with our fathers, and not be tormented with our
enemies.
10 For the youth of the world is past, And the
strength of the creation already exhausted, And the advent of the times is
very short, Yea, they have passed by; And the pitcher is near to the
cistern, And the ship to the port,
And the course
of the journey to the city,
And life to (its) consummation.
11 And again prepare your souls, so that
when ye sail and
ascend
from the ship
ye may have rest 12 and not be condemned
when ye depart.
For lo! when the Most High will bring to pass all
these things, There shall not there be again [a place of repentance,
nor] a limit to the times, Nor a duration for the hours, Nor a change of
ways, Nor place for prayer, Nor sending of petitions,
Nor receiving of knowledge,
Nor giving of love, Nor place of repentance for the soul, Nor
supplication for offences, Nor intercession of the fathers, Nor prayer of
the prophets,
Nor help of the righteous.
13 There there is the sentence of corruption,
The way of fire, And the path which bringeth to Gehenna. 14 On this account
there is one law by one, One age and an end for all who are in it.
15 Then He will preserve those whom He can
forgive, And at the same time destroy those who are polluted with
sins.]
I believe the meaning of the ship, the journey the ascent is two fold, I feel
it relates directly in metaphor to the Rapture and in my point of view points
to the physical journey and the messages from and about the physical project
to the ancient places. The journey to the city and the ascent to the ship to
me in the literal speaks about the expeditions and the future ones to the
ancient submerged places and it could mean the taken embarking of the ship in
another temporary world ascending the gang plank so to speak. There also
appears that rapture, judgment and transition is attached. The above seems to
be reflecting the current conversation.. I believe the city is about Dalamatia
and the Kingdom of Heaven/Paradise...
The above again is a major confirmation in many ways for me,
You know tomorrow marks the discovery of the Northern Dilmun and Tipura
I find it completely amazing to discover this reflection on the eve of the 1st
Anniversary of the journey after discovery of the Northern Persian Gulf
Cities.
Cheers
sevens
posted
09-15-2007 05:17 PM
Hi
I year ago on the 16th Sept 06 12.00 midnight which followed on into the 17th
Sept the two Dilmun or Nodite cities where discovered using NASA worldwind.
It was a great discovery that lead to a journey of a life time and I think is
destined for many great thing as in the journey and the confirmation of it.
Its very interesting that in my timeline that on the 18th Sept 07 is when the
Hadith reflection of the 40 day test including the extension finishes a day
after the discovery of the Dilmuns throughout the 17th Sept 06 in the discovery.
What even more interesting that 4 years ago in November a presentation was made
to UB readers on this exact journey and where as I am presenting the same
journey in the timeline on the 28th of this Month. Its like nearly 4 years ago
was like the beginning and in this time, 4 years later its like the conclusion
presented to the same UB readers. It began there and finished there with a
results to show and in perfect timing in the metaphor.
Just real perfection on all aspects stuff.
Well even if the party is only me I celebrate the discovery and all the
discoveries since then.
Praise the Lord!
Sevens
Crack the champagne! for the Sevenfold team. Yea!
posted
09-15-2007 06:33 PM
I think it fits the description of the
Dilmuns knowing that the knowledge of the Egyptians evolved from the Dilmuns who
ultimate obtained there myths and legends of the immortals out of Dalamatia, I
think the ultimate truth last East of Egypt rather than West.
I think the Atlantis tale ultimately come from here
This is where everything seems to be pointing. I feel the Keftu that Egyptians
are speaking about is the Land of the Gods of immortality where Keftu was the
capital of the lad of the Maat, Dilmat.
But actually the real Capital of the Heritage of
the Ages lays more South in the Persian Gulf.
The City of the Journey confirmed Sun Sep 16, 2007
1:34 am
Just sharing more discoveries in Baruch 2
Quote:
4 1 And the Lord said unto me:
'This city shall
be delivered up for a time, And the people shall be chastened during a time,
And the world will not be given over to oblivion
2 Dost thou think that this is that city of which I said:
"On the palms of My hands have I graven 3 thee"?
This building now built in your
midst is not that which is
revealed with Me,
that which was prepared beforehand here from the
time when I took counsel to make Paradise, and showed it to Adam
before he sinned, but when he transgressed the commandment it was removed
from him, as 4 also Paradise. And after these things I showed it to My
servant Abraham by night among the portions of the
victims. And again also I showed it to Moses on Mount Sinai when I
showed to him 6 the likeness of the tabernacle
and all its vessels. And now, behold, it is
preserved with Me, as also 7 Paradise. Go. therefore, and do as I
command thee.'
So a city that is to revealed with Jesus is revealed in the beforetime,
apparently The Father showed Moses and Moses certain components of the
scenario. Its seems to suggest that the Ark of the Covenant was built in
design of this whole scenario and the outcome of the City revealed by Jesus.
This journey to the city does involve the commands and Paradise, in the case
of this journey the Quest for the Seven Commands. I appears to have all the
components and Characters as mentioned in this beforehand discovery. I think
its a restoration of Paradise and Urantia.
The City will be delivered up for a time, I feel this reflects the 40 day test
and the extension of it but there is a definite ending. Note there are victims
in this journey through the revealment and outcome. Them commandment was
removed from Adam including Paradise...Separation....but in this case the
Commandment as in the "Quest of the Seven Commands" will restore Paradise and
Man.
"On the palms of My hands have I graven 3 thee"?
All I can say that the journey to the all the ancient places including the
books are implanted in the mind and soul with all information and subsidiary
discoveries. But more interestingly it is graven on the hands that type in all
the information publicly for mankind. The discovery came from our hands
revealing the city with Jesus, great friend and Saviour.
The above statement is so true to the word in the case of these lost cities of
our origins.
This whole book is about NOW and related to the Cities that have been
discovered in the images.
If you read more in Baruch 2 you will so many
connections about this very time, the end time.
The City of the Journey confirmed Sun Sep 16, 2007
2:19 am
Some more from Baruch2 ...Here is direct
information of God regarding the end times scenario we face.
Quote:
13 1 And it came to pass after
these things, that I, Baruch, was standing upon Mount Zion, and lo! a voice
came from the height and said 2 unto me: 'Stand
upon thy feet, Baruch, and hear the word of the mighty God.' 3
Because thou hast been astonied at what
has befallen Zion, thou
shalt therefore be assuredly 4 preserved to the consummation of the times,
that thou mayst be
for a testimony.
So that, if ever 5 those prosperous cities say:
'Why hath the mighty God brought upon us this retribution?' Say thou,
to them, thou and those like thee who shall have seen this evil: '(This is
the evil) and retribution which is coming upon you and upon your people in
its (destined) time that the nations 6, 7 may be thoroughly smitten. And
then they shall be in anguish. And if they say at that time: 8 For how long?
Thou wilt say to them: Ye who have drunk the strained wine, Drink ye also of
its dregs, The judgement of the Lofty One Who has
no respect of persons."
9 On this account he had
aforetime no mercy on His own sons, But
afflicted them as His enemies, because they sinned, 10 Then therefore were
they chastened That they might be sanctified. 11 But now, ye peoples and
nations, ye are guilty Because ye have always
trodden down the earth, And used the
creation unrighteously. 12 For I have always benefitted you.
And ye have always been ungrateful
for the beneficence
In this case of the journey and the conversation "thou shalt therefore
be assuredly 4 preserved to the consummation of the times, that thou mayst be
for a testimony" has been fulfilled and has been a testimony in
confirmation to the end time testimony, the Ark of The Testimony in
confirmation confirmed by a testimony of Baruch, the assistant of Jeremiah.
Pretty full on
Sevens
Pretty full on
Sevens
The City of the Journey confirmed Sun Sep 16, 2007
2:44 am
And more confirmation from Baruch,
Quote:
24
1 For behold! the days come and
the books shall be
opened in which are written the sins of all
those who have sinned, and again
also the treasuries in which the
righteousness of all those who have 2 been righteous in creation is
gathered. For it shall
come to pass at that time that thou shalt see
-and the many that are with thee -the
long-suffering of the Most High, which has been throughout all
generations, who has been long-suffering towards all who are born, (alike)
those 3 who sin and (those who) are righteous.' And I answered and said:
'But, behold! O Lord, no one knows the number of those things which have
passed nor yet of those things which are to come. 4 For I know indeed that
which has befallen us, but what will happen to our enemies I know not, and
when Thou wilt visit Thy works.'
25 1 And He answered and said unto me: 'Thou
too shalt be preserved till that time till
that 2 sign which the Most
High will work for the inhabitants of the earth in the end of days.This 3 therefore shall be the sign. When a
stupor shall seize the inhabitants of the earth, and they 4 shall fall into
many tribulations, and again when they
shall fall into great torments. And it will
come to pass when they say in their thoughts by reason of their
much tribulation:
"The Mighty One doth no longer remember the
earth" yea, it will come to pass when they abandon hope, that the time will
then awake.
The Books that open which leads to, the treasuries, and what has been
preserved and the sign of the Most high and tribulation I think is the key
points in the above and is in reflectivity to these end times and the journey
NOW!
The Books that are opened which leads to the
treasuries, and what has been preserved and the sign of the Most high and
tribulation I think is the key points in the above and is in reflectivity to
these end times and the journey NOW!
Just beautiful, I say get ready for the Feast
and prepare yourself.
have a good day
sevens
The City of the Journey confirmed Sun Sep
16, 2007 3:04 am
Here is another huge fragment from Baruch
Quote:
28 1,2 'Nevertheless, whosoever
understandeth shall then be wise. For the measure
and reckoning of 3 that time are two parts a week of seven weeks.'
And I answered and said: 'It is good for a man to 4 come and behold, but it
is better that he should not come lest he fall. [But I will say this also: 5
Will he who is incorruptible despise those things which are corruptible, and
whatever befalls in the case of those things which are corruptible,
so that he might look only to those things which
are not 6 corruptible?] But if, O Lord, those things shall assuredly
come to pass which Thou hast foretold 7 to me,
so do Thou show this also unto me if indeed I have found grace in Thy sight.
Is it in one place or in one of the parts of the
earth that those things are come to pass, or
will the whole earth experience (them)?'
29 1 And He answered and said unto me: 'Whatever
will then befall (will befall) the whole earth; 2 therefore all who
live will experience (them). For at that time I
will protect only those who are 3 found in those self-same days in this
land.
And it shall come to pass when all is
accomplished that 4 was to come to pass
in those parts,
that the Messiah shall then begin to be revealed.
And Behemoth shall
be revealed from his place
and Leviathan shall
ascend from the sea, those two great monsters
which I created on the fifth day of creation, and
shall have kept until that time;and then
they shall 5 be for food for all that are left.
The earth also shall yield its fruit ten thousandfold and on each (?) vine
there shall be a thousand branches, and each branch shall produce a thousand
clusters, and each 6 cluster produce a thousand grapes, and each grape
produce a cor of wine. And those who have 7
hungered shall rejoice: moreover, also, they shall behold marvels every day.
For winds shall go forth from before Me to bring every morning the fragrance
of aromatic fruits, and at the close of the 8 day clouds distilling the dew
of health. And it shall come to pass at that self-same time that the
treasury of manna shall again descend from on
high, and they will eat of it in those years,
because these are they who have come to the
consummation of time.
30 1 And it shall come to pass after these things,
when the time of the advent
of the Messiah is fulfilled, that He shall return in glory.
2 Then all who have fallen asleep in hope of Him shall rise again. And it
shall come to pass at that time that
the treasuries
will be opened in which
is preserved the number of the souls of the
righteous, and they shall come forth, and a multitude of souls shall be seen
together in one 3 assemblage of one thought, and the first shall rejoice and
the last shall not be grieved. For they know that the time has come of which
it is said, that it is the consummation of the
times.
4 But the souls of the wicked, when they behold all these things, shall then
waste away the more. 5 For they shall know that their torment has come and
their perdition has arrived.'
Just beautiful, I say get ready for the Feast and prepare yourself.
Remember Babel and its revealment of the apostate Sons of God as in the Tower
of Babel ascending from the Sea and the return of Jesus.
"And it shall come to pass
when all is accomplished that 4 was to come to pass
in those parts,
that the Messiah shall then begin to be revealed."Speaking in
specific locations, like the multiple discoveries of the Ancient places
including 1stEden and when it accomplished the Messiah returns.
We are in the moment right now!
Sevens
Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:40 am
The Vision of Baruch and
the End time Consummation
Quote:
35 1
And I, Baruch, went to the holy place, and sat
down upon the ruins and wept, and said: 2 'O that mine eyes were
springs, And mine eyelids a fount of tears. 3
For how shall I lament for Zion, And how
shall I mourn for Jerusalem? 4 Because in that place where I am now
prostrate, Of old the high priest offered holy sacrifices, And placed
thereon an incense of fragrant odours. 5 But now our glorying has been
made into dust, And the desire of our soul into sand.'
36 1, 2 And when I had said these things I fell asleep there, and
I saw a vision in the night. And lo! a forest of trees planted on
the plain, and lofty and rugged rocky mountains surrounded it, and that 3
forest occupied much space. And lo! over against
it arose a vine, and from under it there went forth 4
a fountain peacefully.
Now that fountain came to
the forest and was (stirred) into great waves, and those
waves submerged
that forest, and
suddenly they rooted out the greater part
of that forest, and 5 overthrew all the mountains which were round about
it. And the height of the forest began to be made low, and the top of the
mountains was made low and that fountain prevailed greatly, so that it 6
left nothing of that great forest save one cedar
only.
Also when it had cast it down and had destroyed and rooted out the greater
part of that forest, so that nothing was left of it, nor could its place
be recognized, then that vine began to come with the fountain in peace and
great tranquillity, and it came to a place which was not far from that
cedar, and they brought the cedar which had 7 been cast down to it. And I
beheld and lo! that vine opened its mouth and
spake and said to that cedar:
'Art thou not that cedar which was left of the forest of wickedness, and
by whose means 8 wickedness persisted, and was wrought all those years,
and goodness never. And thou didst keep conquering that which was not
thine, and to that which was thine thou didst never show compassion, and
thou didst keep extending thy power over those who were far from thee, and
those who drew nigh thee thou didst hold fast in the toils of thy
wickedness, and thou didst uplift thyself always as 9, 10 one that could
not be rooted out!
But now thy time has sped and thine hour is
come. Do thou also therefore depart O
cedar, after the forest. which departed
before thee, and become dust with it. 11 and let your ashes be
mingled together, And now recline in anguish and rest in torment till thy
last time come, in which thou wilt come again, and be tormented still
more.'
37 And after these things I saw that cedar
burning, and the vine glowing, itself
and all around it, the plain full of unfading flowers. And I indeed
awoke and arose.
38 1 And I prayed and said: 'O LORD, my Lord, Thou dost always enlighten
those who are led by 2, 3 understanding. Thy law is life, and Thy wisdom
is right guidance. Make known to me therefore 4 the interpretation of this
vision. For Thou knowest that my soul hath
always walked in Thy law, and from my (earliest) days I departed not from
Thy wisdom.'
39 1 And He answered and said unto me: 'Baruch, this is the interpretation
of the vision which thou 2 hast seen. As thou hast seen the great forest
which lofty and rugged mountains surrounded, this is 3 the word.
Behold! the days come, and this kingdom will be destroyed
which once destroyed Zion,
4 and it will be subjected to that which comes after it. Moreover, that
also again after a time will be destroyed, and another, a third, will
arise, and that also will have dominion for its time, and will be 5
destroyed. And after these things a fourth kingdom will arise, whose power
will be harsh and evil far beyond those which were before it, and
it will rule many times as the forests on the
plain, and it 6 will hold fast for times, and will exalt itself more than
the cedars of Lebanon.
And by it the truth will be hidden,and all those who are polluted with iniquity
will flee to it, as evil beasts flee and 7 creep into the forest.
And it will come to pass when the time of its consummation that it should
fall has approached,
then the principate of My Messiah will be revealed,
which is like the fountain 8 and the vine,
and when it is revealed it will root out the
multitude of its host. And as touching that which thou hast seen,
the lofty cedar, which was left of that forest, and the fact, that the
vine spoke those words with it which thou didst hear,
this is the word.
40 1
The last leader of that time will be left alive,
when
the multitude of his hosts will be put to the sword, and he
will be bound,
and they will take him up to Mount Zion,
and
My Messiah will convict 2 him of all his impieties, and
will gather and set before him all the works of his hosts. And afterwards
he will put him to death,
and protect the rest of My people which shall be found in the place which
3 I have chosen. And his principate will stand
for ever, until the world of corruption is at an end, 4 and until the
times aforesaid are fulfilled. This is thy vision, and this is its
interpretation.'
The last rebels hosts are interned ready for judgment and the Last rebel
(the last cedar) remains and will be personally adjudged by the Jesus. Both
Baruch and the Urantia Book confirm this detail and its all to do with the
Ancient places, the physical treasuries and judgment of the rebellion.
It appears that Zion and Jerusalem as
two different physical places. The Vision embraces the whole story of
Dalamatia including th flooding of it and the apostate Sons of God that came
out from the destruction of the first Capital on Urantia in those time. The
Flooding of it is even mentioned.
"Now
that fountain came to the forest and was (stirred) into great waves, and
those waves
submerged that forest,
and suddenly they rooted out the greater
part of that forest,"
Baruch is a mighty discovery and confirmation in the journey to the heritage
of the ages.
Sevens
Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:45 am
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Baruch is just Fantastic here is more on the judgment process with the
message of this time.
Quote:
44 1 And I, Baruch, went
from thence, and came to my people, and I called my first-born son and
[the Gedaliahs] my friends, and sevenof the elders of the people, and I said
unto them: Behold, I go unto my fathers
According to the way of all the earth.
[color=blue]3 But withdraw ye not from the way of the law, But guard and
admonish the peoplewhich remain;
'Lest they withdraw from the commandments of the Mighty One, 4
For ye see that He whom we serve is just,
And our Creator is no respecter of persons.
5 And see ye what hath befallen Zion,
And what hath happened to Jerusalem. 6
For the judgement of the Mighty One shall (thereby) be made known, And
His ways, which,
though past finding out, are right.
7 For if ye endure and persevere in His fear, And do not forget His law,
The times shall change over you for good. And ye shall see
the consolation of Zion. 8,
9
Because whatever is now
is nothing, But that which shall be is very great.
For everything that is corruptible shall pass
away, And everything that dies shall depart,
And all the present time shall be forgotten,
Nor shall there be any remembrance of the present time, which is defiled
with evils.
10 For that which runs now runs unto vanity, And that which prospers
shall quickly fall and be humiliated. 11 For that which is
to be shall be the object of desire,
And for that which comes afterwards shall we hope; For it is a
time that passes not away,
12 And the hour comes which abides for
ever. And the new world
(comes) which does not turn to corruption
those who depart to its blessedness, And has no mercy on those who
depart to torment, And leads not to perdition those who live in it.
13 For these are they
who shall inherit that time which has been spoken of, And theirs is
the inheritance
of the promised time.
14 These are they who have acquired for themselves
treasures of wisdom, And with them are
found stores of understanding, And from
mercy have they not withdrawn, And the truth
of the law have they preserved. 15 For to them
shall be
given the world to come,
But the dwelling of the rest who are many
shall be inthe fire.'
45 2 'Do ye therefore so far as ye are able instruct the people, for
that labour is ours. For if ye teach them,
ye will quicken them.
the above is a fragment from Baruch 28, a few posts upwards that speaks of
the amount of time in judgment. I wonder what 2 parts a week of Seven
Weeks mean?
In Enoch I find this related to the Seven weeks and judgment that is still
in completion in the process which I believe we have here.
Quote:
1 Enoch 92:l2 Afterwards, in the
seventh week a perverse generation
shall arise; abundant shall be its deeds, and all its deeds perverse.
During its completion, the righteous
shall be selected from the plant of everlasting righteousness; and to
them shall be given the sevenfold doctrine respecting every part of his
whole creation,
Here is a mystery in itself.
thinking about it.
Ok Ive thought about it.
In the above Enoch verse I was thinking about it a few days ago and came
up with this speculation.
Enoch's Seventh week could mean in the Seventh week of the new Millennium
of Jesus based on his birth date August 21st 07 BC
The Seventh week is 1st - 8th October 07, counting from
Jesus 21st Aug 07BC birth date Its is the Seventh week in
the new millennium of Jesus. the real year 2000 like what the Ethiopians
celebrate.
Now, I was wandering in the above
Quote:
For the measure and reckoning of
that time are two parts a week of
seven weeks
I was thinking if I times 7 weeks by 2 which equals 14 weeks or 98 days
If we add the 98 days from the 4th July
(beginning of the 40 day test) we get 9th October 07
which falls just outside the parameters of the Seventh week as in Enoch's
end time prophecy counting from Jesus' 21 August 7BC birth date the
1st - 8th October 07, the Seventh Week. It could mark the
New day after judgment, completion...maybe!
Its only speculation but comes real close to intersect Enoch's Seven weeks
in the Date period of 1st - 8th October 07 based on Jesus
and the October 9th 07 98 days from 4th July 07, based on
calculation following Baruch thread, its a new date III be looking out
for. Intersecting prophecies based on the Seven weeks.
thinking about it.
sevens
PS
In wonder in the (below highlighted, next post) "And it will come
to pass after the Seventh day" refers to the day after the
7th day in the Seventh week from Jesus'
birthday. Going by this, the Seventh day of the Seventh week falls on the
8th October 07 and the Day after the 7th day
of the Seventh week is the 9th October 07,
the new day? after Jesus.....a major connection between 2 separate
prophecies.....
And consider all these separate calculations from two prophecies carry
multiple Sevens numbers in weeks and days in the timeline which forms
perfection of the Seventh Pattern and prophecy.
Here are more updates on
this timeline following the same thread and some more
Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:11 am date
Yes here is another fragment form Baruch.
It just keeps on coming on.
This again is about everything going on.
Quote:
48 1
And it came to pass
after the seventh day, that I prayed
before the Mighty One and said 2 'O my Lord, Thou
summonest the advent of the times, And they stand before Thee; Thou causest
the power of the ages to pass away, And they do not resist Thee;
Thou arrangest the method of the seasons, And they obey Thee. 3 Thou alone
knowest the duration of the generations, And
Thou revealest not Thy mysteries to many.4 Thou makest known the multitude of the fire,
And Thou weighest the lightness of the wind.
5 Thou explorest the limit of the heights,
And Thou
scrutinizest the depths of the darkness.
6 Thou carest for the number which pass
away that they may be preserved
And Thou preparest an abode for those that are to
be.
7 Thou rememberest the beginning which Thou hast
made, And the destruction that is to be
Thou forgettest not.
8 With nods of fear and indignation Thou
commandest the flames, And they change into spirits, And with a word Thou
quickenest that which was not, And with mighty power Thou holdest that which
has not yet come. 9 Thou instructest created things in the understanding of
Thee, And Thou makest wise
the spheres
so as to minister in
their orders.
10 Armies innumerable stand before Thee And minister in their orders quietly
at Thy nod. 11
Hear Thy servant And give ear to my petition.
12 For in a little time are we born, And in a little time do we return.
13 But with Thee hours are as a time, And days as generations. 14 Be not
therefore wroth with man; for he is nothing 15 And take not account
of our works; For what are we? For lo! by Thy gift do we come into the
world, And we depart not of our own will. 16 For we said not to our parents,
"Beget us," Nor did we send to Sheol and say, "Receive us." 17 What
therefore is our strength that we should bear Thy wrath Or what are we that
we should endure Thy judgement? 18
Protect us in Thy compassions, And in Thy mercy help us. 19 Behold the
little ones that are subject unto Thee, And save all that draw nigh unto
Thee: And destroy not the hope of our people, And cut not short 'the
times of our aid. 20 For this is the nation
which Thou hast chosen, And these are the people, to whom Thou findest no
equal. 21 But I will speak now before Thee, And I
will say as my heart thinketh.
22 'In Thee do we trust, for lo! Thy law is with
us, And we know that we shall not fall so long as we keep Thy
statutes. 23 [To all time are we blessed at all events in this that we have
not mingled with the Gentiles.] 24 For we are all one celebrated people, Who
have received one law from One: And the
law which is amongst us will aid us, And the
surpassing wisdom which is in us will help us.' 25, 26 And when I had
prayed and said these things, I was greatly weakened. And He answered and
said unto me: Thou hast prayed simply, O Baruch,
And all thy words have been heard.
27 But My judgement exacts its own And My law exacts its rights.' 28
For from thy words I will answer thee, And
from thy prayer I will speak to thee. 29 For this is as follows: he that is
corrupted is not at all; he has both wrought iniquity so far as he 30 could
do anything, and has not remembered My goodness, nor accepted My
long-suffering. Therefore 31 thou shalt surely be taken up, as I before told
thee. For that time shall arise which brings affliction; for it shall come
and pass by with quick vehemence, and it shall be turbulent coming in 32 the
heat of indignation. And it shall come to pass in
those days that all the inhabitants of the earth shall be moved one against
another,because they know not that My
judgement has drawn nigh.
33 For there shall not be found many
wise at that time, And the intelligent
shall be but a few:
Moreover, even those who know shall most of all
be silent.
34 And there shall be many rumours and tidings not
a few, And the doings of phantasmata shall be manifest, And promises
not a few be recounted. Some of them (shall prove) idle, And some of them
shall be confirmed. 35 And honour shall be turned into shame, And strength
humiliated into contempt, And probity destroyed, And beauty shall become
ugliness. 36 And many shall say to many at that time: "Where
hath the multitude of intelligence hidden itself, And whither hath the
multitude of wisdom removed itself?"
37 And whilst they are meditating these things, Then envy shall arise in
those who had not thought aught of themselves (?) And passion shall seize
him that is peaceful, And many shall be stirred up in anger to injure many,
And they shall rouse up armies in order to shed blood,
And in the end they shall perish together with
them.
38 And it shall come to pass at the self-same
time, That a change of times shall manifestly appear to every man,
Because in all those times they polluted themselves And they practised
oppression, And walked every man in his own works,
And remembered not the law of the Mighty One.
39 Therefore a fire shall consume their thoughts, And in flame shall the
meditations of their reins be tried; For the Judge shall come
and will not tarry.
40 Because each of the inhabitants of the earth knew when he was
transgressing. But My Law they knew not by reason
of their pride. 41 But many shall then assuredly weep,
Yea, over the
living more than over the dead.'
42 And I answered and said: 'O Adam, what hast thou done to all those who
are born from thee? And what will be said to the first Eve who hearkened to
the serpent? 43 For all this multitude are going to corruption, Nor is there
any numbering of those whom the fire devours. 44, 45 But again I will speak
in Thy presence. Thou, O LORD, my Lord, knowest what is in Thy 46 creature.
For Thou didst of old command the dust to produce Adam, and Thou knowest the
number of those who are born from him, and how far they have sinned before
Thee, who have 47 existed and not confessed Thee as their Creator. And as
regards all these their end shall convict them,
and Thy law which they have transgressed shall
requite them on Thy day.'
48 ['But now let us dismiss the wicked and inquire about the righteous. 49
And I will recount their blessedness
And not be
silent in celebrating their glory, which is reserved for them.
50 For assuredly as in a little time in this transitory world in which ye
live, ye have endured much labour, So in that world to which there is no
end, ye shall receive great light.'
Just incredible and relevant to Now!
Sevens
51 1 And it shall come to pass, when that
appointed day has gone by. that then shall the aspect of those 2 who are
condemned be afterwards changed, and the glory of those who are justified. For
the aspect of those who now act wickedly shall become worse than it is, as they
shall suffer torment. 3 Also (as for) the glory of those who have now been
justified in My law, who have had understanding in their life, and who have
planted in their heart the root of wisdom, then their
splendour shall be glorified in changes, and the form of their face
shall be turned into the light of their beauty,
that they may be able to acquire and receive the world
which does not die, which is then promised to 4 them. For over this
above all shall those who come then lament, that they rejected My law, and
stopped 5 their ears that they might not hear wisdom or receive understanding.
When therefore they see those, over whom they are now exalted, (but) who shall
then be exalted and glorified more than they, they shall respectively be
transformed, the latter into the splendour of angels,
and the former shall yet 6 more waste away in wonder at the visions and in the
beholding of the forms. For they shall first behold and afterwards depart to be
tormented. 7 But those who have been saved by their
works. And to whom the law has been now a hope, And understanding an
expectation, And wisdom a confidence, Shall wonders appear in their time.
8 For they shall behold the world which is now
invisible to them, And they shall behold the time which is now
hidden from them:
9 And time shall no longer age them.
10 For in the heights of that world shall they dwell, And they shall be made
like unto the angels, And be made equal to the stars, And they shall be
changed into every form they desire, From beauty into loveliness, And from light
into the splendour of glory. 11 For there shall be spread before them the
extents of Paradise, and there shall be shown to them the beauty of the majesty
of the living creatures which are beneath the throne, and all the armies of the
angels, who [are now held fast by My word, lest they should appear, and] are
held fast by a 12 command, that they may stand in their places till their advent
comes. Moreover, there shall then be 13 excellency in
the righteous surpassing that in the angels. For the first shall
receive the last, those whom they were expecting, and the last those of whom
they used to hear that they had passed away. 14 For they have been delivered
from this world of tribulation, And laid down the burden of anguish. 15 For what
then have men lost their life, And for what have those who were on the earth
exchanged their soul? 16 For then they chose (not) for themselves this time,
Which, beyond the reach of anguish, could not pass away: But they chose for
themselves that time, Whose issues are full of lamentations and evils, And
they denied the world which ages not those who come to it,
And they rejected the time of glory, So that they shall not come to the
honour of which I told thee before.'
and
54 1 And I besought the Mighty One, and
said: Thou alone, O Lord, knowest of aforetime the deep things of the world,
And the things which befall in their times Thou bringest about by Thy word, And
against the works of the inhabitants of the earth Thou dost hasten the
beginnings of the times, And the end of the seasons Thou alone knowest. 2 (Thou)
for whom nothing is too hard, But who dost everything easily by a nod: 3 (Thou)
to whom the depths come as the heights, And whose word the beginnings of the
ages serve: 4 (Thou) who revealest to those who fear Thee what is prepared for
them, That thenceforth they may be comforted. 5 Thou showest great acts to
those who know not; Thou breakest up the enclosure of those who are ignorant,
And lightest up what is dark, And revealest what is hidden to the pure,
[Who in faith have submitted themselves to Thee and Thy law.]
6 Thou hast shown to Thy servant this vision; Reveal to me
also its interpretation. 7 For I know that as regards those things
wherein I besought Thee, I have received a response, And as regards what I
besought, Thou didst reveal to me with what voice I
should praise Thee, And from what members I should cause praises and
hallelujahs to ascend to Thee. 8 For if my members were mouths, And the hairs of
my head voices, Even so I could not give Thee the meed of praise, Nor laud thee
as is befitting, Nor could I recount Thy praise, Nor tell the glory of Thy
beauty. 9 For what am I amongst men, Or why am I reckoned amongst those who are
more excellent than I, That I have heard all these marvelous things from the
Most High, And numberless promises from Him who created me? 10 Blessed be my
mother among those that bear, And praised among women be she that bare me. 11
For I will not be silent in praising the Mighty One, And with the voice of
praise I will recount His marvellous deeds. 12 For who doeth like unto Thy
marvellous deeds, O God, Or who comprehendeth Thy deep thought of life. 13 For
with Thy counsel Thou dost govern all the creatures which Thy right hand has
created, And Thou hast established every fountain of
light beside Thee, And the treasures of
wisdom beneath Thy throne hast Thou prepared. 14 And justly do they
perish who have not loved Thy law, And the torment of judgement shall await
those who have not submitted themselves to Thy power. 15 For though Adam first
sinned And brought untimely death upon all, Yet of those who were born from him
Each one of them has prepared for his own soul torment to come,
And again each one of them has chosen for himself
glories to come. 16 [For assuredly he who believeth will receive reward.
17 But now, as for you, ye wicked that now are, turn ye to destruction, because
ye shall speedily be visited, in that formerly ye rejected the understanding of
the Most High. 18 For His works have not taught you, Nor has the skill of His
creation which is at all times persuaded you.] 19 Adam is therefore not the
cause, save only of his own soul, But each of us has been the Adam of his own
soul. 20 But do Thou, O Lord, expound to me regarding those things which Thou
hast revealed to me, And inform me regarding that which I besought Thee. 21 For
at the consummation of the world vengeance shall be taken upon those who have
done wickedness according to their wickedness, And Thou wilt glorify the
faithful according to their faithfulness. 22 For those who are amongst Thine own
Thou rulest, And those who sin Thou blottest out from amongst Thine own.'
Quote:
61 1 'And the bright sixth
waters which thou didst see, this is the
time in which David and Solomon were born.
2 And there was at that time the building of Zion,
And the dedication of the sanctuary, And
the shedding of much blood of the nations that sinned then, And many
offerings which were offered then in the dedication of the sanctuary. 3 And
peace and tranquillity existed at that time, 4 And wisdom was heard in the
assembly: And
the riches of understanding were magnified in
the congregations,
5 And the holy festivals were fulfilled in blessedness and in much joy. 6
And the judgement of the rulers was then seen to be without guile, And the
righteousness of the precepts of the Mighty One
was accomplished with truth. 7 And the land [which] was then beloved
by the Lord, And because its inhabitants sinned not, it was glorified beyond
all lands, And the city Zion ruled then over all lands and regions. 8 These
are the
bright waters which thou hast seen.
72 1 'Hear now also regarding the
bright lightning which is to come at the
consummation after these 2 black (waters):
this is the word. After the signs have
come, of which thou wast told before,
when the nations become turbulent, and the time of
My Messiah is come, he shall both summon
all the 3 nations, and some of them he shall spare, and some
of them he shall slay. These
things therefore 4 shall come upon the nations which are to be spared by
Him. Every nation, which knows not Israel 5 and
has not trodden down the seed of Jacob, shall indeed be spared. And
this because some out of 6 every nation shall be
subjected to thy people. But all those who have ruled over you, or
have known you, shall be given up to the sword
sounds like warning to Nations who tread and attempt to destroy the Jewish
people, Israel.
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Quote:
72 1 'Hear now also regarding
the bright lightning which is to come at the
consummation after these 2 black (waters):
this is the word. After the signs have
come, of which thou wast told before,
when the nations become turbulent, and the time of
My Messiah is come,
he shall both summon all the 3 nations, and
some of them he shall
spare, and some of them he shall slay.
These things therefore 4 shall come upon the nations which are to be spared
by Him. Every nation, which
knows not Israel 5 and
has not trodden down the seed of Jacob, shall indeed be
spared. And this because some out of 6
every nation shall be subjected to thy people.
But all those who have ruled over you, or have known you, shall be given up
to the sword
sounds like warning to Nations who tread and attempt to destroy the Jewish
people, Israel.
76 1 And
He answered and said unto me: ['Inasmuch as the revelation of this vision
has been interpreted to thee as thou besoughtest],
hear the word of the Most High that thou mayst know what 2 is to befall thee
after these things. For thou shalt surely depart from this earth,
nevertheless not 3 unto death,
but thou shalt
be preserved unto the consummation of the times.
Go up therefore to the top of that mountain,
and there shall pass before thee all the regions of that land, and the
figure of the inhabited world, and the top(s) of the mountains, and the
depth(s) of the valleys, and the depths of the seas, and the number of the
rivers,
that thou mayst see what thou art leaving, and 4 whither thou
art going. Now
this shall befall after forty days.Go now therefore during these days and instruct
the people so far as thou art able, that
they may learn so as not to die at the last
time, but may learn in order that they may
live at the last times.'
I was drawn to the 40 days as in my experience relates to the 40 day test and
the times of consummation. To me its another complete confirmation of the
journey and the Test!
Sevens
Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:30 am
Quote:
77
1 And I, Baruch, went thence and came to the people, and assembled them
together from the 2 greatest to the least, and said unto them:
'Hear, ye children of Israel, behold how many ye
are who 3 remain of the twelve tribes of Israel. For to you and
to your fathers the Lord gave a law more 4
excellent than to all peoples. And because your brethren
transgressed the commandments of the Most High, He brought vengeance upon
you and upon them, And He spared not the former,
And the latter also He gave into captivity: And He left not a residue of
them, 5 But behold! ye are here with me.
6 If, therefore, ye direct your ways aright, Ye
also shall not depart as your brethren departed, But they shall
come to you. 7 For He is merciful whom ye worship,
And He is gracious in whom ye hope, And He is
true, so that He shall do good and not evil.
8 Have ye not seen here what has befallen Zion?
9 Or do ye perchance think that the place had sinned, And that on this
account it was overthrown? Or that the land had wrought foolishness, And
that therefore it was delivered up?
10 And know ye not that on account of you who did sin, That which sinned
not was overthrown, And, on account of those who wrought wickedly, That
which wrought not foolishness was delivered up to (its) enemies?' 11 And
the whole people answered and said unto me: 'So far as we can recall
the good things which the Mighty One has done unto us, we do recall
them; and those things which we do not remember 12 He in His mercy knows.
Nevertheless, do this for us thy people: write
also to our brethren in Babylon an epistle of
doctrine and a scroll of hope,
that thou mayst confirm them
also before thou dost depart from us.
13 For the shepherds of Israel have perished, And the lamps which gave
light are extinguished, And the fountains have withheld their stream
whence we used to drink. 14 And we are left in the darkness, And amid the
trees of the forest, And the thirst of the wilderness.'
15 And I answered and said unto them:
Shepherds and lamps and fountains come from the law:
And though we depart, yet the law abideth. 16 If therefore ye have respect
to the law, And are intent upon wisdom, A
lamp will not be wanting,
And a
shepherd will not fail,
And a fountain will not
dry up.
17 Nevertheless, as ye said unto me, I will write also unto your brethren
in Babylon, and I will send by means of men, and I will write in like
manner to the nine tribes and a half, and send by means of 18
a bird.'
And it came to pass on the
one and
twentieth day in the eighth monththat I, Baruch, came and sat down under the
oak under the shadow of the branches,
and no man was with me, but 19 I was alone.
And I wrote these two epistles: one I sent by an
eagle to the nine and a half tribes; 20 and the other I sent to
those that were at Babylon by means of three
men.
And I called the eagle 21 and spake these words unto it:
'The Most High hath made thee that
thou shouldst be higher than 22 all birds.
And now go and tarry not in (any) place, nor enter a
nest, nor settle upon any tree, till thou hast passed over the
breadth of the many waters of the river
Euphrates, and hast gone to the 23 people that dwell there, and
cast down to them this epistle.
Remember, moreover, that, at the time of the deluge, Noah received from
a dove the fruit of the olive, when he
sent it forth from the ark. 24, 25 Yea,
also the ravens ministered to Elijah,
bearing him food, as they had been commanded. Solomon also, in the time of
his kingdom, whithersoever he wished to send or seek for anything, 26
commanded a bird (to go thither), and it
obeyed him as he commanded it. And now let it not weary thee, and turn not
to the right hand nor the left, but fly and go by
a direct way, that
thou mayst preserve the command of the
Mighty One, according as I said unto thee.'
What attracted me to this was the
21st Day of the eight month which is the[b]21st August,[/b] Jesus Birthdate
21 St August 21st 7BC. I though that was an amazing connection of when great
revelation came to Burach where he wrote 2 epistles to his friends in
Babylon, Like a great day a new revelation came to earth through Jesus
Christ.. The same date Jesus was Born. amazing! and consider the timeline of
consummation found the Baruch and Enoch Seven week connection.
"And it came to pass on
the one and twentieth day in the eighth monththat I, Baruch, came and sat down under the
oak under the shadow of the branches, and no man was with me, but 19 I was
alone."
Note the command of the Most High given on this day 21st August. Also I
believe the the birds are the angels or messengers maybe sending the message
of the advent of Jesus to the 3 Magi in Babylon whose leader was Ardnon who
received a dream regarding this great planetary event and instructed the 3
Magi to visit the new Son. Maybe Baruch foresaw this occurring on that day
which marks the Birthdate of Jesus.
Also this date just discovered in my mind confirms my latest calculation and
Hypothesis found in this post. Its seems to me that the 21 August Jesus
Birthdate is the reference date where prophecy timeline might be linked to.
81 1, 2 But regarding
consolation, hear ye the word. For I was
mourning regarding Zion, and I prayed for mercy from the Most High,
and I said: 3 'How long will these things endure for us? And will these
evils come upon us always?' 4 And the Mighty One did according to the
multitude of His mercies, And the Most High according to the greatness of
His compassion, And He revealed unto me the
word, that I might receive consolation, And He showed me visions that I
should not again endure anguish, And He
made known to me the mystery of the times.And the
advent of the hours he showed me.
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83 1 [For the Most High will
assuredly hasten His times, And He will assuredly bring on
His hours. 2 And He will assuredly judge those who are in His world,
And will visit in truth all things by means of all their
hidden works. 3 And He will assuredly examine the secret thoughts,
And that which is laid up in the secret
chambers of all the members of man. And will
make (them) manifest in the presence of all with reproof. 4 Let none therefore
of these present things ascend into your hearts, but above
all let us be expectant, 5 because that which is promised to us shall come.
And let us not now look unto the delights 6 of the Gentiles in the present, but
let us remember what has been promised to us in the end.
For the ends of the times and of the seasons and whatsoever is with them shall
assuredly pass by 7 together. The consummation, moreover,
of the age shall then show the great might of its ruler, 8 when all things come
to judgement. Do ye therefore prepare your hearts
for that which before ye believed, lest ye come to be in bondage in both
worlds, so that ye be led away captive here and be 9 tormented there. For that
which exists now or which has passed away, or which is to come, in all these
things, neither is the evil fully evil, nor again the good fully good. 10
For all healthinesses of this time are turning into
diseases, 11 And all might of this time is turning into weakness, And all
the force of this time is turning into impotence, 12 And
every energy of youth is turning into old age and consummation. And every
beauty of gracefulness of this time is turning faded and hateful, 13 And every
proud dominion of the present is turning into humiliation and shame, 14 And
every praise of the glory of this time is turning into the shame of silence, And
every vain splendour and insolence of this time is turning into voiceless ruin.
15 And every delight and joy of this time is turning to worms and corruption, 16
And every clamour of the pride of this time is turning into dust and stillness.
17 And every possession of riches of this time is being turned into Sheol alone,
18 And all the rapine of passion of this time is turning
into involuntary death, And every passion of the lusts of this time is
turning into a judgement of torment. 19 And every artifice and
craftiness of this time is turning into a proof of the
truth, 20 And every sweetness of unguents of this time is turning into
judgement and condemnation, 21 And every love of
lying is turning to contumely through truth. 22 Since therefore all these things
are done now, does anyone think that they will not be avenged;
But the consummation of all things will come
to the truth.
841 Behold! I have
therefore made known unto you (these things) whilst I live: for I have said
(it) that ye should learn the things that are excellent;
for the Mighty One hath commanded me to instruct you: and I will set
before you some of the commandments of His judgement
before I die. 2 Remember that formerly Moses assuredly called heaven
and earth to witness against you and said: 3 'If ye transgress the law ye
shall be dispersed, but if ye keep it ye shall be kept.' And other 4 things
also he used to say unto you when ye the twelve tribes were together in the
desert. And after his death ye cast them away from you: on this account there
came upon you what had been 5 predicted. And now Moses used to tell
you before they befell you, and lo!
they have befallen you: 6 for
ye have forsaken the law. Lo! I also say unto you
after ye have suffered,
that if ye obey those things which have been said unto
you, ye will receive from the Mighty One whatever has been laid 7 up
and reserved for you. Moreover, let this epistle be for
a testimony between me and you, that ye may remember the commandments
of the Mighty One, and that also there may be to me a defence 8 in the
presence of Him who sent me. And remember ye the law and
Zion, and the holy land and 9 your brethren, and the covenant of your fathers,
and forget not the festivals and the sabbaths. And deliver
ye this epistle and the traditions of the law to your
sons after you, as also your fathers 10 delivered (them) to you. And at
all times make request perseveringly and pray diligently with your whole heart
that the Mighty One may be
reconciled to you, and that He may not
reckon the 11 multitude of your sins, but remember the rectitude of your
fathers. For if He judge us not according to the multitude of His mercies, woe
unto all us who are born.
85 1 [Know ye, moreover,
that In former times and in the generations of old our fathers had helpers,
Righteous men and holy prophets: 2 Nay more, we were in our own land [And they
helped us when we sinned], And they interceded for us with Him who made us,
[Because they trusted in their works], And the Mighty One heard their prayer
and forgave us. 3 But now the righteous have been gathered And the prophets
have fallen asleep, And we also have gone forth from the land, And Zion has
been taken from us, And we have nothing now save the
Mighty One and His law. 4 If therefore we direct and dispose our
hearts, We shall receive everything that we lost, And much better things than
we lost by many times. 5 For what we have lost was subject to corruption, And
what we shall receive shall not be corruptible. 6 [Moreover, also, I have
written thus to our brethren to Babylon, that to them also I may attest these
very things.] 7 And let all those things aforesaid be always before your eyes,
Because we are still in the spirit and the power of our liberty. 8 Again,
moreover, the Most High also is long-suffering towards
us here, And He hath shown to us that which is to be, And hath not concealed
from us what will befall in the end. 9 Before therefore judgement exact
its own, And truth that which is its due, Let us prepare our soul That we may
possess, and not be taken possession of, And that we may hope and not be put
to shame, And that we may rest with our fathers, and not be tormented with our
enemies. 10 For the youth of the world is past, And the strength of the
creation already exhausted, And the advent of the times is very short, Yea,
they have passed by; And the pitcher is near to the
cistern, And the ship to the port, And the course of the journey to the city,
And life to (its) consummation. 11 And again prepare your souls, so that when
ye sail and ascend from the ship ye may have rest 12 and not be condemned when
ye depart. For lo! when the Most High will bring
to pass all these things, There shall not there be again [a place of
repentance, nor] a limit to the times, Nor a duration for the hours, Nor a
change of ways, Nor place for prayer, Nor sending of petitions, Nor
receiving of knowledge, Nor giving of love, Nor place of repentance for the
soul, Nor supplication for offences, Nor intercession of the fathers, Nor
prayer of the prophets, Nor help of the righteous. 13 There there is the
sentence of corruption, The way of fire, And the path which bringeth to
Gehenna. 14 On this account there is one law by one, One age and an end for
all who are in it. 15 Then He will preserve those whom He can forgive, And at
the same time destroy those who are polluted with sins.]
86 1, 2 When therefore
ye receive this my epistle, read it in
your congregations with
care. And meditate 3 thereon, above all on the days of your fasts. And bear me
in mind by means of this epistle, as I also bear you in mind in it, and
always. Fare ye well.
87 1 And it came to pass
when I had ended all the words of this epistle, and had written it sedulously
to its close, that I folded it, and sealed it carefully, and
bound it to the neck of the eagle, and dismissed and
sent it.
Posted:
Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:17 am
Thats why I spend little
time here because of all the deletions and the weakness in character.
You all useless moderators around here weak!
I'm better of on the end time forum.
Least they don't delete like cowards and willing to look at things.
Like they do here read and then delete
and then run for hills without debate
PATHETIC! Theres no fight for goodness for the afflicted here nor is there
justice for the deceived.
III never come back to this useless forum again.
Up yours buddy
Actually you might as well BAN me
You really get on my goat Lwatkins You offer no compassion for those who where
deceived and who have no where to go and the Government will not help them as
there is virtually no net or social services provided by the Government, its
pathetic. You are just like all of them so long as your pretty little forum
looks nice and your sitting pretty. Another Nodite reaction.
Good bye, this is the last time III come to this site, it has no grit with all
the edited truth of the matter! including deletions without debate.. up yours!
Pal. Useless to the cause and for the good fight for truth and righteousness.
Your are just Pompous! and arrogant.
Now you can delete or even Ban me, truth hurts! piece of crapola!!!!
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Taliban behind kidnappings dies Tue Sep 18,
2007 10:59 am
By AMIR SHAH, Associated Press Writer 10 minutes ago
KABUL, Afghanistan - U.S. airstrikes targeting a meeting of Taliban
leaders killed a high-ranking commander involved in the kidnappings of 23
South Koreans two months ago, Afghan officials said Tuesday.
Meanwhile, NATO reported that another of its soldiers had died in an
explosion in Afghanistan, where violence has soared this year amid a
Taliban-led insurgency.
Mullah Abdullah Jan, the Taliban commander of Qara Bagh district in
Ghazni province, was among 12 killed in the strike on a mud-brick housing
compound overnight in neighboring Giro district, said Ghazni provincial
police chief Gen. Ali Shah Ahmadzai.
The U.S.-led coalition said "several" suspected militants were killed and
four detained during an operation in Giro that included gunfire and
airstrikes, but it could not immediately confirm that Jan was killed.
Jan was the fifth Taliban commander allegedly involved in the abductions who
has been reported killed in recent days, and believed to be the
highest-ranking one eliminated so far. Jan watched as his fighters stopped
and kidnapped a tour bus carrying the South Koreans in July, Ahmadzai said.
Afghanistan's Interior Ministry on Sunday said police had killed three
Taliban commanders allegedly involved in the abductions. Another, a Mullah
Mateen, was said to be killed in fighting earlier in the month.
There have been several military operations in Ghazni since the release of
the last of the captives on Aug. 30, possibly reflecting the desires of the
Afghan government or U.S. and NATO forces to assert authority over the
rebellious southeastern region following the abductions.
Two of the Korean hostages were slain soon after the kidnappings on July 19.
Two women were released later during the Taliban's negotiations with South
Korea. The remaining 19 were freed after further Taliban-South Korean talks.
An explosion Monday killed the NATO soldier and wounded another in southern
Afghanistan, the alliance said Tuesday. The NATO statement did not provide
any further details about the incident or the nationality of the victims.
In Helmand province, meanwhile, a gunbattle in Garmser district Monday
killed six suspected Taliban, while nine others died in an airstrike in
Kajaki district, the Ministry of Defense said.
More than 4,300 people — mostly militants — have died in insurgency-related
violence this year, according to an Associated Press tally of figures from
Western and Afghan officials.
Afghan policemen dressed in local clothes are seen at the site after a
suicide attack in Nad Ali district of Helmand province south of Kabul,
Afghanistan on Monday, Sept. 17, 2007. A suicide bomber on foot entered a
government office and blew himself up Monday in the volatile south, killing
eight people, including four policemen, officials said. (AP Photo/Abdul
Khaleq)
I suppose it was inevitable and expected.
I cant find the original post But I know I was pretty upset about the whole
thing of this kidnapping and I know I mentioned Paradise and entry concerning
this
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Taliban involved in SKorean kidnappings killed: police
links to big
Quote:
2 hours, 35 minutes ago
GHAZNI, Afghanistan (AFP) - International and Afghan forces killed a
dozen Taliban overnight including a commander involved in the July
kidnapping of 23 South Koreans, a provincial police chief said.
The US-led coalition confirmed the operation in the central province of
Ghazni had killed "several" militants but did not say if the commander,
Abdullah Jan, was among the dead.
The interior ministry in Kabul could also not immediately confirm Abdullah
Jan was dead.
The commander regularly spoke to the media during the kidnapping saga in
which two of the hostages were killed before the remainder were freed last
month.
International war planes bombed a house in Ghazni's Giro district in the
raid that killed the 12, including Abdullah Jan, provincial police chief
Alishah Ahmadzai told AFP.
Another Taliban district commander was among the dead, he said.
The coalition said in a statement that "several suspected militants" were
killed and four detained in the operation.
Troops had gone to the compound because they suspected it was "providing
sanctuary to anti-coalition militants," it said in a statement.
"Several confirmed enemy fighters posed a threat to the forces during the
course of operation and were shot and killed," it said. Bombs were also used
to destroy a building.
Another of the commanders involved in the kidnapping was killed early this
month, days after the last of the South Korean aid workers were freed after
controversial talks between the Taliban and the South Korean government.
Afghan and US-led troops raided Abdullah Jan's hideout on Friday, killing
six militants although the commander himself got away.
Abdullah Jan was a Taliban commander for the Qarabagh district, the area
where the South Korean aid workers were abducted on July 19.
Same type of News report
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Earth Movements and a Galactic visitor
I find it interesting that in the last few crucial
days in the timeline there has been a Meteortie impact from space a 180mph
typhoon where it has displaced 1.6m Chinese and 8+ richter scale earthquake in
Indonesia.
Hundreds of people have suffered headaches, nausea, and respiratory problems
after an object from space - believed to be a meteorite - crashed in
southern Peru.
Eyewitnesses watched a fiery ball fall from the sky and smash into the
remote Andean plain near the Bolivian border on Saturday, local media
reported.
Crater caused by apparent meteorite
The crater left by the object is 65ft wide and 20ft deep
When villagers went to investigate, they encountered fetid, noxious gases,
according to local health officials.
Jorge Lopez, director of the health department in the southern state of Puno,
800 miles south of Lima, said at least 200 people had become ill after
inhaling "toxic" fumes emanating from the resulting crater.
"This is caused by the gas they have inhaled after the crash," Mr Lopez
said.
Ursula Marvin, a meteor expert at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory
in Massachusetts, said it was likely the dust raised when the object hit the
ground was causing the health problems.
She said a meteorite "wouldn't get much gas out of the earth".
Three geologists from Peru's Geophysics Institute are on their way to the
site to determine whether it was, in fact, a meteorite, and are expected to
present a report on the incident on Thursday.
Similar cases were reported in 2002 and 2004 elsewhere in southern Peru but
were never confirmed as meteorites
and
Quote:
1.6m flee Shanghai typhoon
By Richard Spencer in Beijing
Last Updated: 3:17am BST 19/09/2007
More than a million and a half people in and around Shanghai last night fled
the advance of one of the most powerful typhoons to hit the country in a
decade.
Typhoon Wipha was recording gusts of 180 miles an hour yesterday evening, a
few hours before it was expected to hit the coast to the south of China's
business capital.
Throughout the day, residents on the coast and parts of the city itself fled
the area as the government announced the closure of all primary and middle
schools in Shanghai and the neighbouring city of Suzhou.
The central meteorological administration declared a first-level emergency,
while the deputy chief of Shanghai's flood control centre said the city's
defences were facing their "most severe test in decades".
Officials said 1.63 million people had been evacuated from Shanghai,
Zhejiang and neighbouring Fujian province, while all fishing boats were
recalled to port and an oil rig was cleared of all its staff.
The typhoon was said to be nearly the strength of Saomai, which hit the
Fujian coast last year and killed 400 people.
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It was described as the worst typhoon to hit the region in 50 years.
September marks the peak of the South China Sea typhoon season.
But this year, the Chinese government has warned of an increased number of
typhoons, blaming changing weather patterns due to global warming.
JAKARTA, Indonesia: A strong earthquake
rocked parts of Indonesia's Sumatra island Wednesday, but there were no
reports of any damage.
The 6.1-magnitude hit 190 kilometers (115 miles) northwest of Bengkulu, the
U.S. Geological Survey said on its Web site.
Although the temblor was felt in cities along Sumatra's west coast, it was
not strong enough to cause a tsunami and there were no immediate reports of
damage, said Nugrahani Farisa of the local Meteorological and Geological
Agency.
Wednesday's tremor followed last week's 8.4-magnitude quake
that killed 23 people along the western coast of Sumatra. More than 60
strong aftershocks have followed the massive earthquake — including a
magnitude 7.8 and a 7.1.
A 10-foot-high tsunami was triggered by initial quake, but no one died from
the wave.
Indonesia, the world's largest archipelago, is prone to seismic upheaval due
to its location on the so-called Pacific "Ring of Fire," an arc of volcanos
and fault lines encircling the Pacific Basin.
A massive earthquake and subsequent tsunami on Dec. 26, 2004, killed more
than 131,000 people in Indonesia's Aceh province and left half a million
homeless.
Very interesting Natural occurrence especially the meteorite in the last few
days.
Scientists doubt that the supposed
meteorite strike that sickened some 200 residents of
Peru last weekend actually involved anything from space.Based on
reports of fumes emanating from the crater, some scientists actually
suspect that the event could have been some kind of geyser-like explosion
rather than a meteorite impact.
"Statistically, it's far more likely to
have come from below than from above," said Don Yeomans, head of the Near
Earth Object Program at NASA'S Jet Propulsion Laboratory in
Pasadena, California.
The noxious fumes that have supposedly
sickened curious locals who went to examine the
crater would seem to indicate hydrothermal activity, such as a local
gas explosion, because "meteorites don't give off odors," Yeomans told
SPACE.com.
Skepticism warranted
Several times in recent history, reports of
meteorite impacts have turned out to be untrue after scientific
examination. Doubt in the scientific community was as rampant today as the
speculations out of Peru.
Details surrounding the incident are also
increasing experts' skepticism.
"Many of the reported features of the
crater ("boiling water," sulphurous fumes, etc.) point to a geological
mechanism of the crater formation," wrote Benny Peiser, a social
anthropologist at John Moores University, in a daily newsletter that
catalogues research and media coverage of space rock impacts and other
threats to humanity. "I would not be surprised if, after careful analysis,
the alleged meteorite impact reveals itself to be just another 'meteorwrong.'"
It's not impossible that the crater was
left by a meteorite, Yeomans said, but if so, then the impact object most
likely was small, based on the size of the crater. It would also probably
have been a
metal meteorite, because those are the only kind of small meteorites
that don't burn up as they plummet through Earth's atmosphere, he added.
Small stony meteorites rarely make it to the surface.
A couple features of the event reports
suggest there was a space rock involved, said geophysicist Larry Grossman
of the University of Chicago. The bright streak of light and loud bangs
seen and heard by locals are consistent with a meteor streaking through
Earth's atmosphere, he said. Most meteors do burn up, never becoming
meteorites (which is what they're called if they reach the surface).
Because no one actually saw anything impact
at the crater site, it's hard to say whether a space rock was involved
because they are often deceptive as to where they will land. Many times,
people swear a meteor landed nearby when in fact it was so far away that
it dipped below the local horizon but never actually struck the ground.
"Sometimes these things land hundreds of
thousands of miles away from where [people] think they will land,"
Grossman said.
Investigation needed
Pictures of the crater show that the hole
in the ground appears fresh, Grossman said, and the debris strewn around
it is consistent with a
meteorite impact but also could have been caused by digging.
And there are no previous reports of
noxious fumes emanating from meteorite remnants or their craters, he said.
"If the noxious fumes came from the hole,
it wasn't because the meteorite fell there," Grossman said, saying they
would like have come from something already in the ground.
Grossman said that to determine whether the
crater was made by a meteorite, the water in the hole must be pumped out
and any large chunks of rock at the bottom should be examined to see if
they are consistent with meteoritic composition.
Peruvian geologists are on their way to
examine the crater, according to news reports.
I cant help to think about Wyatt video on Sodom and Gomorrah and the sulfur
beads he found all around the place where he thinks it lays.
If it was an meteorite and was a sign, it could be cataclysmic by contrast.
I was thinking about the piece, no where to run or hide, like in a sulfur
meteorite shower, that would be the fire and brimstone.
However coming from space, I'm sure the sulfur would be heated up going
through the atmosphere but would cool down on descent?? Or it could be
volcanic but I'm not sure whether that would affect the whole planet. But then
again meteorites do hit the ground and are hot rocks and could be hot sulfur
of which its gas would make you sick.
Could you imagine being in a hailstorm of Sulfur hailstones. I think you would
be sick of the gas become nauseous vomit and then pass out burning at the same
time. It would be literally like hell.
Nothing would last, the sea would boil, all things made by man would be in
ashes and no one would survive unless you were deep underground but still the
poisoned air would be a major problem.
Might seem extreme and I'm not saying something this extreme would happen but
still. I suppose you can never can discount such an event as the Bible dies
refer to Sodom and Gomorrah being destroyed in fire and brimstone and could be
a type.
I don't know but does seem a little long in this scenario. However, in a case
like that I can see why the faithful (the savable ones) would be evacuated.
Like Abraham and Lot. Could that be a type to now and if that was a meteorite
in the timeline. Could it be significant.?? Dont know.
Quote:
The bright streak of light and loud
bangs seen and heard by locals are consistent with a meteor
streaking through Earth's atmosphere, he said. Most meteors do burn up,
never becoming meteorites (which is what they're called if they reach the
surface).
Quote:
Pictures of the crater show that the hole in
the ground appears fresh, Grossman said, and the debris
strewn around it is consistent with a meteorite impact but
also could have been caused by digging.
Oh well Dale knows
everything in his intellectual prowess. The Roar of Dale RAAA!
I just couldn't be bothered engaging any further in this intellectual run around
with you which to me is just void and has to me negative energy. I'd entertain
more positive thoughts in the search for truth and discovery.
Hey are you some kind of spiritual/intellectual lawyer or something of the
Sanhedrin department of the law enforcement squad?
How do you know everyone here is wrong in there personal experience with this
book?
I'm sure Jesus would speak differently.
Hey Dale
I dont have to say anything to justify the Urantia Book and my faith.
I just point to the
ancient places and the Book and all the
other books including the Bible and look and
learn....Son of the Union!.
Here is few scriptures to think about
Job:38 It is turned as clay to
the seal; infers flooding change memory,
seal future
and the face of
the deep is frozen. inferring its
submerged. Job:38-30 The waters
are hid as with a stone, (the
object of the discovery) Isaiah:30-8 Now go,
write it before themin a table, andnote it in a book,
that it may be
for the time to come
for ever and ever: Song of Solomon 4:12
A garden inclosed is my sister, my spouse;
a spring shut up, a fountain sealed.
and
Note: The clue of the location referring to 1stEden discovered by Robert Sarmast
a reflection of the deluge.
an extract from Ezekiel 31:15-17 KJV)
when I cast him down to hell with them that
descend
into the pit: and Mediterranean Basin,
The Sea of Atil inland Sea, The sea of Eden. all the trees of
Eden, the choice, Eden the garden
land, the location and best of Lebanon,
all that drink water, Very close to
Lebanon who also suffered the deluge. shall be comforted in
the nether parts of the earth. All gone
down in to the pit, The deluge.
and
Essenes and the Sevenfold, Infinite Garden parallel Power, Love and
Wisdom, Thou shalt travel
the Seven Paths Of the Infinite
Garden, And thy body, thy heart and thy mind Shall join in Oneness In the Sacred Flight
to the Heavenly Sea of Peace.
and
Daniel 2:34 Thou sawest till that
a stone was cut
out without hands, (the great
realisation through a physical discovery and could be an artifact that cut out
of the mountain by an ROV that proves without a doubt the location of Eden.)
which smote
the image (defying conventional thinking, changing understanding of our
history, science and religion. Redefining all our knowledge. Breaking all the
knowledge, correction.) upon his feet that were
of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.
and Egyptian Book of the Dead
I am the Egg
"the god Keb hath
opened the earth" A reflection of the deluge "I go about his egg"
The City of the Taut, The Acropolis Hill 1stEden "the time of
the Two Lands!" Egypt the colony and Keftu to the North or Atlantis to
the North. "dweller
among the celestial food" Land of the
Gods "the tree of life" 1stEden "dweller among the beings of
blue" Direct reflection of the violet
race, the Adamic race. The progeny of Adam and Eve.
Quote:
Discovering and activating
the Seal. 2004 the interpretations are wider in
this time.
Job:28 23-28 We have heard the fame
(stories) thereof with our ears. (we heard about it through myth and legend)
23 God understandeth the way thereof, and
he knoweth the place thereof. (God knows the place and is leading us
to the discovery)
24 For he looketh to the ends of the earth,
(God is pointing to the location at the eastern Mediterranean, end of
the sea, submerged) and seeth under the whole heaven; ( and discovers 1st
Eden under the whole heaven, under the water.)
25 To make the weight for the winds; and he
weigheth the waters by measure. (the meaning of the discovery
impending judgement with measure and again a reflection of the Super storms
that was created in the deluge of the Atlantic.)
26 When he made a decree for the rain, and
a way for the lightning of the thunder: (decree for judgement with
certainty and direction, again a reflection of the decisiveness in the way
of the direction of the deluge caused by the Gibraltar dam break.)
27 Then did he see it, (discovered
Eden, through his research and study.) and
declare it; (pronounced it) he
prepared it, (made ready the event, discovery)
yea, and searched it out. (And went
out to find the 1st Garden of Eden through an expedition and found it.)
28 And unto man he said, Behold, the fear
of the Lord, that is wisdom; (The point of the discovery is God
leading man to God thorough his wisdom by physical and spiritual discovery
through his sevenfold truth, this is the wisdom Job speaks about,
simultaneously, revelatory.) and to depart from evil is understanding.
Daniel:2 34-35
35 Then was the iron,
the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold,
broken to pieces together, and became like
the chaff of the summer threshing floors; and the wind carried them
away, that no place was found for them: and
the stone that smote the image becamea great mountain,(Symbolized by the physical discovery of the
stone temple of Cyprus. The purpose of the discovery was to gain wisdom
through the accompanying revelation.) and filled the whole earth. (filled
the earth with a new revelation. Completion.)
Here is one I did on the Bible Code 2 fragment
Quote:
Bible code 2
I thought I would share this.
I've been reading the bible code 2. I found it an interesting book. Whilst
much of it was involved in politics and in its relation to the code. I was
particularly drawn to the chapter 6 "The Steel Ark". and currently checking
out Chapter 4 "IT exists"
I found the interpretation of the author interesting and compelling but deep
down in my heart I felt he had uncovered the discovery of Atlantis or 1st
Eden (The Urantia) and describing the actual discovery.
For example he found words in both the Torah and Bible that overlapped.
However, Before I go on you have to read the book Bible code 2 and draw your
own conclusion. The Author feels the area of his search is in Lisan in the
Dead sea, North. However I feel its the Cyprus location.
The words he has discovered that overlap are words that intrigued me was:
"Steel Ark" A boat
"Sensor"
"Obelisk"
"Pillar in the palace"
"All the wisdom"
"iron"
"to the north"
"Ark of Steel"
"Its container is deep, the hiding place"
"It reveals deep an secret things"
"The Lisan" which means language"
"cross welded"
"steel viechle" "he threw into the sea"
"Lisan"
"tel" (which means archaeological)
"tel of obelisks"
"Lisan, tongue of the sea"
"It exists in Lisan"
"This is the solution"
To me ark of steel is a boat with uses a sensor at an archaeological site
called a tel. The pillars of the wisdom of all mankind is somehow linked to
the object of the expedition, its container is deep and hidden, the hiding
place and therein lays the solution. You have a "sensor" like an R.O.V going
down to the "tel" (archaeological site) an artifact taken from the Hill
which perhaps resembles a record of some sort that could be deciphered that
may be linked to the origins of mankind.
Lisan means language and "its in our language, meaning the mystery of this
place in all our books, sevenfold books in my view. The find, or artifact is
in the palace "The Acropolis Hill". "Tongue of the sea" Could mean the land
jutting into the sea, a description of the sunken Atlantis/Eden peninsula
and it could be the message coming from the sea that is in the new book, the
opened book, the discovery and the book, the new book, the new revelation
another activation of the seal!....maybe.
In chapter 4 the author refers back to Lisan and describes something that
could be activated by the discovery of this, im still reading it.
At the end of chapter 2 it the author relates the code "in the Lisan
Peninsula" and below it "The End of Days" and in the same place in the bible
"For you and your children after you, in order that you will prolong your
days on Earth".
Bizarre as it seems but in chapter 2 he speaks of the "End of days" which is
in all the codes, finishing in 2006. Certainly raises the ante when you
consider all the research surrounding this location. Also the decoder who
discovered the bible code is named in the code.
In chapter 2 there is much emphasis on.
"Lisan
"Language"
"The Dictionary, and it was opened"
"Dictionary of the obelisks"
"The tablet vitalized the obelisk"
"Laws of language"
It could mean The books are opened, A new book like "a dictionary" This new
book written by God himself or a tablet is related and connected to a
discovery that is undeniable. I think the Cyprus/Atlantis/Eden location
seems to confirm from what is already known about this place, from a related
book. This new book reveals the origins of language or the origins of man
which includes language, the laws of language or even of God. I think the
Urantia Book
Could all this be in reality an overview of a book (The Urantia Book) and a
physical relationship with a physical discovery of Cyprus? Through by the
discovery of it, reveals a very strong parallel, a new revelation, a new
sense of understanding.
Is this whole description of the whole journey. A puzzle coming together a
unification as prophesied in all the scripts and now in Bible and Torah code
not to mention the Hitomi code which appears to be pointing to this place.
The Garden of Eden, the origins of the Gods the link between heaven and
Earth.
Is 2006, the year for this completion of knowledge a unification in the
widest sense. I perceive this to a very real reality going on here. The
Bible code seems to suggest that there is a completion a foot, in our
language.
Does this mean the oncoming of the terminal end of this age, with the advent
of the new 6th Epochal revelation??? Are we in the twilight zone of
discovery and fulfillment?
This book is getting really interesting and compelling.
The Bible code was published in 2002, 1 year before the Cyprus/Atlantis
discovery occurred.
Sevens
All my reflection in the between are from around 2005. Since then Dalamatia, the
first cities including the Dilmuns have been located.
The believe the "Stone is the Seven Commands" artifact that will be lifted up
from the submerged cities and will change history and expends religion and
points to the Urantia Book.
Anyway, but welcome Dale .
Sevens
Posted:
Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:13 pm Post subject:
No worries
Hey Im just looking at this piece, it kind of dawned on me a little more!
Isaiah:30-8 Now go,
write it before themin a table, andnote it in a book,
that it may be
for the time to come
for ever and ever:
Doesn't that reflect the Book Discovery of
Atlantis and the expeditions to 1stEden and a table as in all the forum
work and recording with the discoveries along the way including Dalamatia and 2
Dilmuns ....on the run!?? For the Future and this book and writing in a virtual
table now is a reflection of an ark for safe passage through a trail maybe?? In
all the relevant scriptures discovered it takes its form as reflected. Maybe?
No one has to agree but I thought that was a direct connection to what's
happening now.
By MONTE HAYES, Associated Press Writer
Wed Sep 19, 7:39 PM ET
LIMA, Peru - A fiery meteorite crashed into
southern Peru over the weekend, experts confirmed on Wednesday. But they were
still puzzling over claims that it gave off fumes that sickened 200 people.
Local residents told reporters that a fiery
ball fell from the sky and smashed into the desolate Andean plain near the
Bolivian border Saturday morning.
Jose Mechare, a scientist with
Peru's Geological, Mining and Metallurgical Institute, said a geologist
had confirmed that it was a "rocky meteorite," based on the fragments
analyzed.
He said water in the meteorite's muddy crater
boiled for maybe 10 minutes from the heat and could have given off a vapor
that sickened people, and scientists were taking water samples.
"We are not completely certain that there was
no contamination," Mechare said.
Jorge Lopez, director of the health department
in the state where the meteorite crashed, told The Associated Press on Tuesday
that 200 people suffered headaches, nausea and respiratory problems caused by
"toxic" fumes emanating from the crater, which is some 65 feet wide and 15
feet deep.
But a team of doctors who reached the isolated
site said Wednesday they found no evidence the meteorite had sickened people.
Doctors told an Associated Press Television
News cameraman at the site that they had found no sign of radioactive
contamination among families living nearby. But they said they had taken
samples of blood, urine and hair to analyze.
Peasants living near the crater said they
had smelled a sulfurous odor for at least an
hour after the meteorite struck and that it had provoked upset stomachs and
headaches.
But Jose Isisuka, a geologist for the institute
who was studying the crater, said he doubted the reports of a sulfurous smell.
Modesto Montoya, a member of the medical team,
was quoted by Lima daily El Comercio as saying fear may have provoked
psychosomatic ailments.
"When a meteorite falls, it produces horrid
sounds when it makes contact with the atmosphere," he told the paper. "It is
as if a giant rock is being sanded. Those sounds could have frightened them."
Justina Limache, 74, told El Comercio that when
she heard the thunderous roar from the sky, she abandoned her flock of alpacas
and ran to her small home with her 8-year-old granddaughter. She said that
after the meteorite struck, small rocks rained down on the roof of her house
for several minutes and she feared the house was going to collapse.
Meteor expert Ursula Marvin said that if people
were sickened, "it wouldn't be the meteorite itself, but the dust it raises."
A meteorite "wouldn't get much gas out of the
earth," said Marvin, who has studied the objects since 1961 at the
Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory in
Massachusetts. "It's a very superficial thing."
Three geologists from
Peru's Geophysics Institute are expected to report on the incident on
Thursday.
Hernando Tavera, a geophysicist at the
institute, said similar cases were reported in 2002 and 2004 elsewhere in
southern Peru but were never confirmed as meteorites.
The Journey to Lake Dal, in North Western India
to seek out the truth of the first place of evacuation of Van after the falll of
Dalamatia City. Varuna reflected as Van
sevens
Whatever about the edit.
However, I put those script up there because of Dale comments about the Sarmast
and Eden/Atlantis project. What I was trying to demonstrate was reflections in
all the books including the bible. In other words I putting on the table since I
invited his ideas of the ancient places and so forth and made a comment.
That was reason for the fragments. What you deleted where thoughts from about 2
years ago.
things have widened since then.
sevens
Posted:
Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:36 pm Post subject:
Hi
I went to those site to and I reached the same conclusion where I couldn't be
bothered participating. I found they where all to smart for me.
Personally, I'd rather talk to the Christians in there end time forum.
Its quite incredible that I have been on there forum for a while, where I speak
about the Urantia Book and endorse all the time as well as the Bible and they
edit or delete and they show respect in leaving the posts untouched.
Even if go extreme on an issue they still leave the posts there which I really
respect and consistent with freedom of speech contained within the US very
constitution.
I find since the bible connections are involved and paralleled they can see
something which really thrills me and is an excellent witness for the Urantia
Book even in the lions den of doctrine.
I find all the same characteristics in the UB structure as in the Christian
structure where as you have you fundamentalists, those right of centre and some
left. Where ever center is. including those who impose there will on others.
Anyway its been a real blessing to be on there forums and to be accepted as a
end time researcher but from the UB/Bible prospective.
Its incredible, I can say whatever I want, including the UB and its still there.
and not tampered with. Some one must be looking at it and finding connections.
Also one of the fundamental goals from the beginning of this journey was to
create a bridge between Christianity and the UB through the ancient first
places. I think that has been accomplished and serve to help the UB/Bible people
in the cause of truth and righteousness for individuals.
I have found little pride and prejudice against the UB and more acceptance from
the endtime forum further in the timeline.
Praise the Lord!
regards
seven
Hi
Here is a little research I did trying to locate the first place of evacuation
of Van from the downfall of Dalamatia.
I thought it could of been lake Dal
I was trying to find links to Van through the Hindu religion.
it was a great study and I believe I have found reflection of Van and some
fragment that may relate to the journey of the ancient places.
I have respect for the Hindu religion and I feel the Hindu religion contains the
many reflections about Van and what is happening today.
I hope you enjoy it and I know many things could be added to the research.
It would make sense for Van to go there. I wonder if this very place is where
the Bandonites evolved from? Also I found Seven to be a very important key
feature in there religions and could reflect the final outcome. I see many links
with the same type of end time characteristics.
all the best
Sevens
Posted:
Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:46 pm Post subject: lake
Dal
Hey Coop
How is it going? Hope well.
I enjoyed your post as usual. I when to the Gita and did a search on seven
whilst there were many location I actually couldn't find the word seven in the
search.
Anyway this is something I found on the net about the Gaddis people which I
believe reflects Van and Amadon and the tree of life(Soma) and the identity of
Seven rivers from the wikipedia and what I feel are again reflections of the
Seven which may be in metaphor to now?? maybe!
(My thoughts in brackets)
Its somebody else's research but to me I was quite fascinated
Quote:
Here is another reflection
that may have distant reflections of Van and Amadon and there followers who
may have been reflected into the traditions and thoughts of the Gaddi
people.
The Mughal fort situated on the banks of the Dal Lake of Srinagar, it is
positioned on top of the Sharika Hill. Originally, it was built during the
reign of Akbar but its present structure owes itself to the Afghan governor
of Kashmir in the 18th century. It has a Parvati temple on the western slope
and the Muslim shrines of Khwaja Makhdoom Sahib and Akhund Mullah Shah on
the southern one. On the southern side of the outer wall there is a Guru
Dwara, which commemorates the visit of Guru Hargobind Singh. Presently the
fort is under army occupation. According to
the local legend, this hill was once a lake as large as a sea and was
inhabited by the abominable demon known as Jalobhava.
(the reflection of the discovered places in the Persian gulf and the Seven
commands being the pebble, in Metaphor.)
The inhabitants called on Goddess Sati, spouse of Lord Shiva for her help.
She took the form of a bird and dropped a pebble
on the demon's head, which kept on increasing in size until the demon was
crushed by it. Hari Parbat is revered as that pebble and it is said to have
become the home for all 33 crore gods of the Hindu pantheon.
(The following could be a direct reflection of the Dalamatia City including
the the submerged 2 Dilmun and the recovery of the Seven Commands and the
the change of knowledge and truth.)
Another version of the myth that involves the hill, says that two demons,
Tsand and Mond occupied the fair valley. Tsand conceded himself in water
near the present location of Hari Parbat and Mond
somewhere above the present
Dal Gate.They
were a menace to the people of the valley, which could not be
inhabited owing to their dreaded presence.
Thus, the gods invoked Goddess Parvati who
assumed the form of a Hor (myna) and flew to Sumer
(Dalamatia City?) from where she got
a pebble in her beak (7 commands)
and threw it on
the demon Isand to crush him.
The pebble grew into a mountain.(Daniel)
She is worshipped as Sharika in Shri Tsakra
(an emblem of cosmic energy pervading the universe) occupying the middle
part of the western slope of the hill. The hill is also called Predemna Peet
or Kohi Maran.
Akbar the Great built the outer wall of the fort in 1590 at a cost of one
crore and ten lakh of rupees. The inscription in Persian at the Kathi
Darwaza commemorating this work can be read even today. Akbar intended to
lay the foundation of a new capital inside the fort and call it Nagar Nagor.
The ruins of certain terraces can still be seen on the side of the Pokhiri
Bal. The views of the Dal lake and a part of the valley from the fort are
spectacular.
(Rigvedic myths, the seven rivers in metaphor could reflect this journey for
mankind. The most important journey for mankind. All various reflections of
Sevens and the the ancient places could be reflected in this religion and
including Van and his two headquarters as reflected in the people who still
live there legends in their life and traditions as in the Gaddis.)
Identity of the seven rivers from the wikipedia to see if we can find
further reflections to Seven and transition in metaphor.
It is unclear how exactly the seven rivers were intended to be enumerated.
They are often located in the Punjab region in northwestern India / northern
Pakistan. If Sarasvati's membership is taken for granted, and the five major
rivers of the Punjab are included (Sutudri, Parusni, Asikni, Vitasta, Vipas
all tributaries of Sindhu), one river is missing (or perhaps two, since the
Sindhu is a special case, having feminine or masculine gender and in this
case not being invoked as a goddess), perhaps Arjikiya or Sushoma compare
also the list of ten in the Nadistuti sukta, RV 10.75. David Frawley extends
the Sapta Sindhu region from the Punjab to the Gangetic plain, specifically
suggesting Sindhu, Ashikni, Parushni, Sarasvati, Yamuna, Ganga and Sarayu. (Frawley
2000) In 6.61.10, Sarasvati is called "she
with seven sisters" (saptasvasā) which would logically indicate a
group of eight rivers, but which probably is just
due to the number seven being more
important than the individual members (see also saptarshi, haft
keshvar), so that the list of the Sapta sindhu may not have been fixed or
immutable. In RV 10.64.8 and RV 10.75.1, three groups of seven rivers are
referred to (tríḥ saptá sasrâ nadíyaḥ "thrice seven wandering rivers"), as
well as 99 rivers.
The central myth of the Rigveda tells of
Indra (the "Bull") freeing the Seven Rivers with the slaying of Vrtra (the
"Dragon"):
1.32.12 Thou hast won back the kine, hast won the Soma; thou hast let loose
to flow the Seven Rivers.
1.102.2 The Seven Rivers bear his glory [Indra's] far and wide, and heaven
and sky and earth display his comely form.
2.12.3 Who slew the Dragon, freed the Seven Rivers, and drove the kine forth
from the cave of Vala
4.19.3 The Dragon stretched against the seven prone rivers, where no joint
was, thou rentest with thy thunder.
4.28.1 Slew Ahi, and sent forth the Seven Rivers, and opened as it were
obstructed fountains.
7.18.24 Seven flowing Rivers glorify like Indra. He slew Yudhyamadhi in
close encounter.
8.24.27 Who will set free from ruinous woe, or Arya or the Seven Streams:
8.96.1 For him the Floods stood still, the
Seven Mothers, Streams easy for the heroes to pass over. 10.49.9 Bull over all the streams that flow
along the earth, I took the Seven Rivers as mine own domain.
10.67.12 Slain Ahi, and set free the Seven Rivers. O Heaven and Earth, with
all the Gods protect us.
10.43.3 These the Seven Rivers flowing on their downward path increase the
vital vigour of the potent Steer. 10.49.9 Bull over all the streams that flow
along the earth, I took the Seven Rivers as mine own domain.
References to other deities:
1.34.8 Thrice, O ye Asvins, with the Seven Mother Streams; three are the
jars, the triple offering is prepared.
1.35.8 The earth's eight points his brightness [ Savitar's] hath illumined,
three desert regions and the Seven Rivers.
1.71.7 All sacrificial viands wait on Agni as the Seven mighty Rivers seek
the ocean. 3.1.6 Then they,
ancient and young, who
dwell together,
Seven sounding Rivers, as one germ
received him[Agni]..
6.7.6 All creatures in existence rest upon his [Agni's] head. The Seven
swift-flowing Streams have grown like branches forth,
7.67.8 With one, the same, intention, ye swift movers [Asvins], o'er the
Seven Rivers hath your chariot travelled. 8.41.2 Him [ Varuna ] dwelling at the
rivers' source, surrounded by his Sisters Seven. 8.54.4 May Pusan, Visnu, and Sarasvati
befriend, and the Seven Streams, this call of mine
8.59.4 Dropping oil, sweet with Soma, pouring forth their stream, are the
Seven Sisters in the seat of sacrifice. 8.69.12. Thou, Varuna, to whom belong Seven
Rivers, art a glorious God. 9.66.6 O Soma,
these Seven Rivers flow, as being thine, to give command 9.92.4 Ten on the fleecy height,
themselves, self-prompted, and seven fresh
rivers, brighten and adorn thee [Soma].
Soma is reflective of the tree of life. The followers of Van are the Amadonites
and is reflected. The loyal followers who where translated are also mentioned
and happened around Mt Kailish, a holy mountain to the Hindu religion
There is much more but when I read all the above I feet a connection to the
current reality and the mysteries and myths in the Hindu religion.
As Coop pointed out Krishna is a Blue man, another subtle connection to the UB
and its truth.
This part also got me going, its reflective of the whole team and journey even
to names if you can spot it!. Also earlier the reflection of the pebble that
became a great mountain and crushed the last rebel, through truth.
Quote:
3.1.6 Then they,
ancient and young, who
dwell together,
Seven sounding Rivers, as one germ
received him[Agni].
and this about Van
and
8.69.12. Thou,
Varuna, to whom belong Seven Rivers,
art a glorious God.
and about the tree of Life, its presence and knowledge was there.
9.66.6 O Soma,
these Seven Rivers flow, as being thine, to give command.
and here is a clue to where Van Lived
8.41.2 Him [
Varuna ] dwelling at the rivers' source,
surrounded by his Sisters Seven.
The Hidden highland Valley the home of Badonite and the 1st place of evacuation
of Van and his followers after the Fall of Dalamatia City.
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dal/dal1.jpg
thanks Coop all the best
blessings
sevens
Sounds like Thomas Jefferson was an incredible
forefather who really understood the soul of man and the need for expression and
healthy debate.
With Jesus from what I can see he always let a person express themselves as you
can read in the UB. Did he ever forbade a person in there thoughts and
viewpoint? However if there is evidence that he suppressed an individual of
expression because he didn't agree with it, I would be glad to see that.
No worries
The discussions of some parables is a good example of the disciples presenting
there views fully.
Also Cymboynton place is a clear example of freedom of expression without
bagging the other guy which I would assume includes deletion in thus case with
out proper debate in a full sense.
Just to delete, is a kin to imposition of will, to me is just another Nodite
trait not even worth mentioning.
I think Cymboynton place collapsed after his death because of one group imposing
there ideas on another. Like what we see today everywhere!
sevens
Posted:
Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:24 pm
Fair enough, but still those who delete, delete
from there own prospective.
For personally, the journey to the ancient plafces has been a 14 years journey.
Sarmast would know everything that Im speaking about and in the last 4 years I
have spent all my resources and time in the recording of this journey for the
benefit of man and Given away. I would say average 8 hours a day In one from or
another digging out the truth of the ancient places for my fellow brother.
Trying to help my fellow brother is finding a wider truth within the UB through
the physical discovery of the places.
Thats probably why I get upset. These places do help man find better connection
which relates to his own religion and makes the transition alot easier.
That was the goal from 14 years ago and thats why I get upset at all the
tampering. Also I find very little support from anyone except a very few good UB
people who are also battling for the cause of truth and righteousness in truth
the rest seem to be fence sitters in there judgment of another.
Anyway I suppose it doesn't matter at the end of the day we all have our views
on things and I myself have received benefit from this website but I wont post
my pearls here as they are generally not accepted and run the risk of the
enforcement gauntlet.
I rather give the pearls to the Christians because I believe they need
assistance and I like them, there my brothers in the Lord to, actually all
people from all the religions are my brothers and I want to help them because I
love them and I want them to be successful in the transition.
Tampering with posts that are reasonable I think is interference in what the
Father is doing in the individuals life.
How about a debate rather than a gutless delete with an unworthy excuse
especially when you don't know the person deep down or is it just laziness to
debate an issue or is it the higher than thou attitude! Well thats what I see in
the replies. Its a real turnoff
Well looks like the thread wont
survive as I have noticed more threads are deleted in this section.
Anyway before this one and it pearls get deleted I want to thank those for
participating in this thread. For me this one has been a real blessing and I
have found much just in the short time on this thread and I enjoyed all
responses.
Next Saturday night III be doing a presentation in my land of Sinim to about 50
people on everything about this journey to the ancient places.
This presentation will be in conclusion to when the presentation began 4 years
ago around the same time in 2003.
I must say I am completely impressed with everything that has been discovered
and connected.
I personally believe this presentation will be the be all of everything and will
be the most mightiest presentation ever delivered since Jesus Christs advent.
In faith I believe that everyone is going to be there including all the main
characters will be there be it by remote. The most high and the midwayers will
be present. The presentation through the recorder seraphim will be broadcasting
the presentation direct to the Systems Capital Jerusem and will have the full
support of all the universe and its diverse personalities. The system Fathers
will be here through there omnipotence and I know they will be happy.
After the presentation I would like to bring this project on to the next stage
and raise money for an expedition to Dalamatia City and discover it in the
physical, the city and its triangular subdivision and the circular temple with
the 12 chambers about it and including the Seven Commands if they still lay
there and hopefully it is decipherable. However we are talking about 150,000
ago, if this aspect is not achieved in this location then they must exist of
Babel/Dilmun and Tipura/Dilmun as they where submerged not that long ago in the
timeline.
In total this project has been on the run for 14 years and in the last 4 years
all things has been recorded and copied. I believe the research will come to a
conclusion where the physical drive begins.
I was thinking of a number ways to raise the money. One thought is go to the
world of Nod, the stock market and put together a prospectus and floating it on
the stock Market or maybe through a LLZ method or it could be a direct private
investment. Everyone and their dog would want to see this Grand discovery
that involves the Father "Kingdom of Heaven"
By floating the project, research and the outcome on the stock Market the
Nodites will be aware of the oncoming truth and this may serve as an ark and
witness for them, if there motivation is right, thats if the end time scenario
comes to pass. Remembering they also have the Adamic gene which I believe that
gene aspect within them will arise not to mention all of us with better thoughts
for his fellow brother and with more faith and less fear and doubt.
If I was long on the end time speculation and the physical expedition is
completed, the proceeds will be used to disseminate the UB in all dialects and
languages including the massive production on DVD with all the connecting
research. However, the initial exposure of the project and expedition will hit
the Box office in order to raise the money to fund these stage 2 projects of
dissemination, Discovery, history channel will be the second tier level of
exposure.
Its a completely true story where there is no fluff and bull. This journey will
be successful and all will find conclusion and not be left in the air. Any
untruth or false doctrine goes in the direction of my arm....out the door!! to
the never never, never to return forever!
This will be witness of one mans journey through all the books of religion and
his relationship with the Father in "Kingdom of Heaven" in the guidance of his
mind and hands through the branches(internet)to the world including the
uncovering of truth on the run focalized on the ancient places.
The project after Dalamatia City will still be alive as there are the other
places.
Well this are my thoughts and feeling for the 24th September 07 on the day that
Haggai s prophecy ends which started on 4th July and ended today.
Working on the timeline from 40 day test starting on 4th July 06.
In regards to transition I have a new speculation on the 9th October 07 based on
the Jesus birthday and seven weeks from that mentioned in Enoch. I am using
Jesus Birthday as the new timeline anchor. Baruch in his end time speculation
also connects to the same time period with perfection on the same date.
Baruch from his time of duration of this period in my calculation equals the
same time.
It interesting I remember something in enoch or some script that I cant find
that appears to be a 789 7th turning into an eighth and then a nine.
I have the same situation in these actual dates of the Seventh day which is on
the eighth date and then after the Seventh day passes in Baruch the eighth day
becomes the 9th October.
so in summary you have in prophecy the 7 day which is on the eighth and the day
after the Seventh day falls on the eighth.
I think that piece of 7,8,9 comes from Alister Crowley in Ahah Sevenfold...can
you believe that.
Anyway thats the latest before it gets deleted.
Thinking about it further you have 3 intersecting pieces of information from
differing time periods all connecting on the two dates of the 8th 9th October 07
I found that 7,8,9 piece I was looking for but I think is a little out but
anyway here is the piece from the Book of Toth
quote:
Three, Four, Five, and
Six, Seven, Eight,
each with his mission, each with his powers, guiding, directing the destiny of man.
There sit they, mighty and potent,
free of all time and space.
However upon further looking here is the piece I was thinking about
Formed are not they as the children of men? THREE, FOUR, FIVE AND SIX, SEVEN,
EIGHT, NINE are the titles of the Masters of men. are the titles of the
Masters of men.
There could be something in it.
and now look what the numbers represent and especially notice the ninth.
quote:
FOUR is he who looses the power.
Lord, he, of Life to the children of men.
Light is his body, flame is his countenance;
freer of souls to the children of men.
FIVE is the master, the Lord of all magic -
Key to The Word that resounds among men.
SIX is the Lord of Light, the hidden pathway,
path of the souls of the children of men.
SEVEN is he who is Lord of the vastness,
master of Space and the key of the Times.
EIGHT is he who orders the progress;
weighs and balances the journey of men.
NINE is the father, vast he of countenance, forming and changing
from out of the formless.
To me this gives value and weight to
the numbers based on the Book of Toth and what the numbers represent and its
possible connection to the date.
In my mind there is 3 intersecting prophetical statements made in a different
time periods all connecting on the same subject describing the different levels
falling in parallel time/space dates to the timing of the final mystery.
Also this whole pattern is in perfection in the Sevens pattern of time space
timed from the Jesus birthdate, the beginning of the 21st pylon as described in
the Egyptian Book of the Dead when Ammon comes to town. A fourth connection on
the run.
Also note that Jesus' birthday is 7 weeks from the 4th July which 49 days,
7x7days. From the July 4th timeline to 8th October is 7x7= 49days 98
days from July 4th.
That is the 2 part Seven (49days)/Seven weeks
(49 days) either side of Jesus birthdate August 21st 07bc. as in Baruch which began on
July
4th (beginning of the 40 day test) and 7x7=49 days (2 part Seven)
to August 21st and then Seven weeks from August
21st to October 8th.another (49days Seven weeks)
By the way the day after the Seventh day 9th October is the 99th day.
quote:
Forth were WE formed after our
order: THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT--NINE.
Know ye that these are the numbers of cycles
that WE descend from unto man.
Each having here a duty to fulfill;
each having here a force to control.
The THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN,
EIGHT--NINE sounds like seraphic registration numbers. going on a hunch.
and here is another description of the Sevenfold in my mind.
quote:
Great is the wisdom of the Seven.
Mighty are THEY from beyond. Manifest THEY through their power,
filled by force from beyond.
I know there is a 99 connection some
where.
still digging.
Just reflecting on and some creative imagination.
By the way the day after the Seventh day 9th October which is the 99th day,
then next day
is the 100th day on the 10thOctober 07 a decimal date for the decimal planet
we live on This 100 day falls on the 10th October 07 but really speaking its
2000 so that 10th October 2000 which is the 100th day from August 21st Jesus
Birthdate.
Where the Sevens becomes a 10 on the 100th day.
Where 2 parts Seven plus Seven weeks where the Seven becomes a 10 on a 100 So
looking at the 10 and the 100 relationship we see a two parts and 10
That my result in the digging into the scripts and find patterns that intersect
in the timeline and prophecy.
But I recall a eight in one one in eight are the keys in Sevenfold aha isn't
that similar relationship but working on a eight?
Here it is out of this
"There are seven keys to the great gate,
Being eight in one and one in eight ...."
He is working on a 1:8 ratio while I'm on 1:10 ratio ratio
connection on the Seventh Key which opens the great gate!
He may have been on to something but maybe the next evolution of the eighth key
is in the Sevens and TENS, the decimal signature!
Perhaps! interesting thought.
Ok moving on following the lead of Aleister Crowley I find this interesting
following from the eight in one an incredible instruction of preparation for
some rapturous event.
You know what amazing is that in the back of mind for some days, the thought had
occurred to me about the preparation of rapture. I know from the Urantia Book
there is a period that mortals go through were they are prepared for
translation, we are no different.
Reading the above link just seems to reflect that preparation and the connection
of the mind and the Father.
Regardless what people think of of the Author of Sevenfold aha maybe the the
existence of the author could of been to record those fragments that would fill
a piece of the final mystery.
I think he is the author of the Book of Toth and honestly in many things there I
am impressed with some of the thoughts there. If Aleister is the author of both
Books he must reflecting much planetary truth in his own way and expression for
times in those days. I think personally he fills much of the puzzle.
still digging
Further more to this piece is a clear
description in metaphor of the perhaps an global event and personal signs of it
within your mind where the truth begins to emanate of this event in the actual
moment. I already booked marked this in a previous search looking for
description of rapture but to me the following is like a preparation.
In the following is a fragment of a summary of this work.
"There are
seven keys to the great gate,
Being eight in one and one in eight ...."
And ends with:
quote:
"....... I leave thee here;
thou art the Master. I revere
Thy radiance that rolls afar,
O Brother of the Silver Star!"
This followed by some descriptions of
the early phases of
magical practice, particularly that called in the Golden Dawn
"skrying in the spirit vision," which, pursued properly to its
logical end, may lead to higher mystical states:
quote:
"The first
true sights. Bright images
Throng the clear mind at first, a crowd
Of Gods, lights, armies, landscapes; loud
Reververations of the Light.
but these are dreams, things in the
mind,
No rest therein. Thou shalt find
No rest therein. The former three
(Lightning, moon, sun) are royally
Liminal to the Hall of Truth.
Also there be with them in sooth,
Their brethren,
There's the
vision called
the Lion of the Light, a brand
Of ruby flame and emerald
Waved by the Hermeneutic Hand.
There is the Chalice,
whence the flood
Of God's beatitude of Blood
Flames .
O to sing
those starry tunes!
O colder than a million moons!
O vestal waters! Wine of love
Wan as the lyric soul thereof!
There is the Wind, a
whirling sword,
Rapture 15 bookmark.
quote:
The savage rapture of the air
tossed beyond space and time. My Lord,
My Lord, even now I see Thee there
In infinite Motion! And beyond
There is the Disk, the wheel of things;
Like a black boundless deamond
Whirring with millions of wings!"
And here is another piece that just says it all and confirms the basis of this journey and the discoveries
"The sevenfold mystery of the ineffable
love:the coming of the Lord in the Air as King and Judge of this corrupted world .
Still digging a little further and Look what I found
It must have been about a year or so following this desert
experience that he set to work on the poetic clarification of what
he finally stood for. There are some references to the Sahara
episode in this poem, since it resulted in his second crossing of
the Abyss, the critical event in his spiritual life. It was then
that he chose the magical motto of V.V.V.V.V. , which I familiarly
call five Vees
This is the same signature as found in Dalamatia City as in the triangles and
the same symbol is found in Jesus' family tomb.
PS have you ever considered October
9th is the 99th day ( from Jesus Birthdate which makes it the 999th day
PS that the 40 day test is 98 days
long in total 7x7 plus 7x7 49/49 = 98days. 4th July + 98 days = 8thOct 07, after
the Seventh day(in Baruch) (of the Seventh week) its 9thOct = 99th day the 10thOct = 100th
day.
Looking at the numbers by first the date and the number days from 4th July07 to
8,9 and 10thOct
(date)6(day)96(month)10
7,97,10
8,98,10
9,99,10 10,100,10 perfect tens
October is the 10th month
Remember Aleister Crowleys 8 to 1 and 1 to 8
If we look at the Crowley matrix on the 8th 8,98,10 its like an 8 ends
with 10 or close to 8 to 1, eight to a decimal! on the 98th day 2 days from a
decimal date in the fullest.
and note
the 7th week is in October 1-8th 07
and after the Seventh day as in Baruch,
falls on the 9th Oct.
It was a great study and I think there is heaps more information. I personally
think Hindu is the religion of Van that has perpetuated for thousands of years.
I thought it was a great thread as there is so much more to it.
Its very exciting and stimulating to find great threads of truth in the books of
Hindu. I personally am impressed.
Hey Ive been digging looking into Aleister Crowley which I must admit is very
bizarre as he was into worshiping the last rebel as he evolved his truth from
his prospective.
Incredibly I found much connecting truth there to. However I feel because he had
pride and prejudice against the church from his upbringing he had ended up
worshiping the last rebel I think by his various invocations.
Its hard to say what happening in this part of the study.
I feel that perhaps earlier in Aleisters spiritual life he connected onto
something which relates to truth, however as he moved through his life his
prejudice took control and went in total rebellion to Christianity.
I'm not sure whether he was fully connected to spirit of Jesus in his endeavours.
Its pity that he developed many rituals to invoke the Gods when all is required
is simple faith and sincerity and to simply ask in prayer with right motives.
I think the biggest blowout for me when he was in the Egypt during his travels
he was in the desert and at that time he chose the emblem of the 5 Veeees VVVVV
which is also the same signature in design as the Veees or WWW that lay there
submerged.
How would he of known that. Was it coincidence or was he shown something??
I suppose in the UB its says that if a person really desires to suffer the
sophistries of Cal one can be successful in reaching that goal.
Its hard to know as there are truths there that connect.
If you want to have a look at what I found III send you a link as this link
maybe really beyond the scope of this forum and maybe uncomfortable.
Obviously there is no risk in the digging as we all know we are secure in the
Jesus Christ but truth has to be dug out and revealed and investigated since
everything is on the table. But something tells me that he did behold some of
the keys to last mystery in the most bizarre way.
Perhaps something where revealed to him but by whom it could of been a loyal
midwayer or it could of been the last rebel in his plans.
Or maybe in the beginning much was revealed to him but because of his pride and
prejudice against the church he was receiving sustenance from the last rebel at
some stages in his life.
I don't know just guessing
He also speaks of rapture and transition and speaks of Jesus being involved. He
also connects with the Hindu religion to. He indicates that transition will be
severe with a rapture connection. He even shows a technique in preparation to
rapture or translation.
Strange but is consistent with the general view in the scriptures.
I think he was a combination of many things.
Don't know but there is stuff there to be honest I wasn't quite comfortable in
reading something the verses as there is mention of the Beast and all that jazz.
all the best
sevens
Posted:
Wed Sep 26, 2007 12:54 am
Post subject:
Hi everyone,
Someone sent me an email to say that Crowley was not a devil worshipper, Phew I
was hoping for that as I really do connect to his written material.
I just cant see how he could be a devil worshipper and yet embrace the truth as
I can see and how it relates to this search.
I was thinking because he was in unorthodox raiment he was adjudged accordingly
and because he held certain criticisms of Christianity at that time in defence
Christianity would label him a devil worshipper. Because he was different.
Anyway with the post on the above. aaah just disregard all that. I was just
unsure at the time.
I was a little confused and personally I think Crowley did some fine work that I
can relate to looking at it from the Jesus point of view including the "Kingdom
of Heaven"
I must say with out thinking in fear I was impressed with the Book of Toth and
The Sevenfold AHA. I thought it was good work and to me had many confirming
benefits.
Looking at the information my decision is that I don't think the last rebel
would of revealed this information to him if it would have potential benefit for
man particularly in relation to the last mystery which points to his demise of
the last rebel.
III drop my concerns in faith and study his material further with interest.
Also those 5 V's are amazing. How would Crowley know that and why would the last
rebel tell him this information? Does not make sense, like suicide. I thought
the 5v's connection was the greatest connection to Dalamatia City. Its a
confirmation to me that he was being led of which his work would find
confirmation at future date through his symbol.
blessings and thanks for the tip I must say I was a little unsure.
"There are
seven keys to the
great gate,
Being eight in one and one in eight ....
and note the time line is in the Seven
week as expressed in Enoch and anchored by Jesus' birthdate.
the 7th week in October 1-8th
07 the 8th being the Seventh day then after the
Seventh day its the 9thOct 07
1 Enoch 92:l2
Afterwards, in the
seventh week a perverse generation shall arise; abundant shall be its
deeds, and all its deeds perverse. During its
completion, the righteous shall be selected from the plant of
everlasting righteousness; and to them shall be given the sevenfold
doctrine respecting every part of his
whole creation,
and
Baruch
Quote:
76
1 And He answered and said unto me: ['Inasmuch as the revelation of this
vision has been interpreted to thee as thou besoughtest],
hear the word of the Most High that thou mayst know
what 2 is to befall thee after these things. For
thou shalt surely depart from this earth,
nevertheless not 3 unto death,
but thou
shalt be
preserved unto the consummation of the times.
Go up therefore to the top of that mountain,
and there shall pass before thee all the regions of that land, and the figure
of the inhabited world, and the top(s) of the mountains, and the depth(s) of
the valleys, and the depths of the seas, and the number
of the rivers, that thou
mayst see what thou art leaving, and 4 whither thou art going.
Now
this shall befall after forty days.Go now therefore during these days and instruct the
people so far as thou art able, that they
may learn so as not to die at the last time,
but may learn in order that
they may live at the last times.'
and more clues in Baruch
Quote:
48 1
And it came to pass
after the seventh day,(9thOct
07) that I prayed before the Mighty One and said 2 'O
my Lord, Thou
summonest the advent of the
times, And they stand
before Thee; Thou causest the power of the ages
to pass away, And they do not resist Thee;
Thou arrangest the method of the seasons, And they obey Thee. 3 Thou alone
knowest the duration of the generations, And
Thou revealest not Thy mysteries to many.4 Thou makest known the multitude of the fire,
And Thou weighest the lightness of the wind.
5 Thou explorest the limit of
the heights, And Thou
scrutinizest the
depths of the darkness.
6 Thou carest for the number which
pass away that they may be preserved
And Thou preparest an abode for
those that are to be.
7 Thou rememberest the beginning which Thou hast
made, And the destruction that is to be Thou
forgettest not.
81 1, 2 But
regarding consolation, hear ye the word. For I was
mourning regarding Zion, and I prayed for mercy from the Most High, and
I said: 3 'How long will these things endure for us? And will these evils come
upon us always?' 4 And the Mighty One did according to the multitude of His
mercies, And the Most High according to the greatness of His compassion,
And He revealed unto me the word, that I might
receive consolation, And He showed me visions that I should not again endure
anguish, And He made known to me the mystery
of the times.And the advent of the hours
he showed me.
sevens
Here is something that Ive been working on,
I find it quite interesting but it maybe out side the scope of this forum.
Have a look if you like I only reveal this in case there is something to it in
these calculations.
As you know its speculation and calculation in faith, I like the next guy wants
the "Kingdom of Heaven" to descend.
In this post I express a few dreams and desires don't worry about that too much
but then interesting part is that I get side tracked in this study in Aleister
Crowley regarding Sevenfold and I find links to Dalamatia City as in the VVVVV's
or the WWW or MMM shapes that you see at the submerged city.
Quite bizarre and a little concerning but we have to dig truth up as we are in a
time of revealing.
Just know this is an objective search I walk in
the light of the Holy Spirit in order to find truth, real truth and nothing but
the truth for mankind.
all the best
Sevens
Posted:
Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:26 am
Post subject: Ernest Moyers Papers
1 He who brought me down from on high, also brought me up from the
regions below; 2 And He who gathers together the things that are betwixt is
He also who cast me down: 3 He who scattered my enemies had existed from
ancient and my adversaries: 4 He who gave me authority over bonds that I
might loose them; 5 He that overthrew by my hands
the dragon with seven heads: and thou hast set me over his roots that
I might destroy his seed.6 Thou wast there and didst help me, and in every place thy name was
a rampart to me. 7 Thy right hand destroyed his Wicked poison; and thy hand
levelled the way for those who believe in thee. 8 And thou didst choose them
from the graves and didst separate them from the dead. 9 Thou didst take
dead bones
and didst cover them with bodies. 10 They were motionless, and thou didst
give them energy for life. 11 Thy way was without corruption and thy face;
thou didst bring thy world to corruption: that
everything might be dissolved, and then renewed, 12
And that the foundation for everything might be
thy rock: and on it thou didst build thy
kingdom; and it became the dwelling place of the saints.
Hallelujah.
I am using Jesus' birthdate
as the Rock of all the prophecies in the timeline, In metaphor its the rock
or the anchor point of the how I see things in the timeline.
Sevens
This post is from a background of
Research emanating from the stand point of religion. Concerning transition and
revealing through discoveries in both text and through worldwind software.
Hi I discovered ancient submerged cities, the first places of all civilization
in the Persian Gulf.
These discoveries were made by an individual religionist working on his own
finding the truth and the arising truth of everything.
This research concerns the current reality that is developing in The Persian
Gulf.
All the discovered fragments of truth pertaining to the transition of truth seem
to be pointing to the submerged cities.
Fragments pertaining to the ancient places emanate from all the books of
religion and is spread evenly throughout all the books. The fragments of truth
connecting to the first cities are unifying themselves like pieces of a
puzzle/mystery forming a conjunction into the final reality. I see this
developing right now! In this journey of truth and discovery.
There are relevant messages for the nations that are in conflict.
It might be a good time for all nations to really seek a peaceful path to solve
the current problems we have and all nations really must co-operate and do there
best to find peaceful solutions as there may be a greater government that may
reveal part of there hand, in demonstration which I believe is relevant to the
current time and scenario we find ourselves in.
I really believe we are in the moment and the discovery of these ancient places
guided by the books of all religion is really emanating a message which I
believe comes from the Universal Government from the levels of beyond space-time
relevant to the Eternal Government.
In other words Paradise/Kingdom of Heaven may very well reveal themselves in
accordance to the timeline of prophecy and its relationship to the ancient
places which also includes the Discovery of 1stEden off Cyprus.
Even though the discoveries of the first cities are in the images using NASA
worldwind software, the first places have to be verified through various
expeditions.
I figure since and I no resources to go out there and just survive to do this
work for Paradise Government.
I cant go out there and it would take long for me to raise the money to explore
these places and plus I don't have the money, power nor influence on any human
level.
I simply cant do it at this time now. I have to pass it on who has the right
spirit in the name of truth, beauty and goodness to get this happening quickly!
I figure the US fleet that are in the Persian Gulf and the Iranian Government
they have the infrastructure, equipment and accessibility to thoroughly research
these places and verify these ancient cities in the here and now!.
What I propose is that on the basis of truth which has to be verified in the
physical is a joint venture between the US Government perhaps through the
military in joint cooperation with the Government of Iran, an expedition to
Dalamatia City to verify truth and the attached information.
If that come to pass and Dalamatia City was verified as an ancient lost city as
described, then I would like to propose a further expedition in joint venture
with Iran to the Location of Dilmun/Babel, off the coast of Iran in the North
Eastern Persian Gulf which lay in Iranian waters to verify the location of the
Tower of Babel and the Seven Commands that many lay there inscribed on Stone
Slabs. If all looks good and everything is verified, the expedition could be
extended to the other Dilmun city that lay in the West which I named
Tipura/Dilmun after the lead that I was following which led to its discovery, in
the images.
Dalamatia City lays submerged in the Southern Persian Gulf, hidden in the middle
of Persian Gulf in no mans land. The multiple sites include the circular temple
with the 12 surrounding chambers, the various cross sections of the 40 ft walls,
the circular junction and the triangular and diamond shaped subdivisions.
What's more, there may lay the Seven commands which are the first laws of
civilization given to man inscribed on stone slabs, these stone slabs lay
submerged of the coast of Iran and Mesopotamia.
The discovery of these tablets would verify the truth of all things that pertain
to all truth in all the books of region including the new book. This would
verify the opening of all the Books including the new book, the Book of Life
written by the finger of God as verified in the book of Baruch and many other
books.
The source book which led to the discovery of the first places in the images,
will signify the beginning of the opening of the Book of Life which I believe
will be endorsed by the Ancients of Days, the Universal Fathers.
The discoveries of these places and the Seven Commands which I believe lay there
would be the path of the Ancients of Days where they may respond.
I believe the ancient first places is the great key to the Seventh Mystery which
embraces all religions in unification through a major conjunction in each book
of religion, it will bring a new understanding of everything which pertain to
eternal values.
I'm sure its the great mystery of the planet and both Iran and the US government
and all governments, the UN, could play a major role in this journey of true
self discovery of universal government on the physical and in inner spiritual
levels which I believe will lead to planetary enlightenment on a universality
level in conjunction to the higher powers of the Universe as in Government and
governance including personal spirituality consistent with the revealment and
truth.
I believe this moment in planetary reality was foreseen by the prophets and is
fulfilling itself, I think the discoveries of the cities and the artifacts, the
Seven commands will be significant in the expansion of all knowledge which will
form a oneness.
Well that's it for me, I wish all governments and departments from all countries
the best in this endeavour for peace I believe that this proposal could pave the
way to universal peace as this planet might very well enter into a new level of
preparation for light and life which will take a thousand years from this point
of transitional change that will led to that next level which are the Utopian
Ages.
Always remember the Most High who is mentioned in the books knows all that is
said including the motives of everyone. He is no fool to nothing. For man to
find success in this journey through the abyss in the flight in the sea of peace
has to be honest, sincere in truth, beauty and goodness showing faith and
goodness. This does not include death and destruction. Really speaking from what
I found any death and destruction is really in violation to Paradise and they
specifically point to terrorism. Governments working in honesty together and
with the right motive can work things out and avoid war but terrorism is
specifically mentioned in the scriptures where there is no reward and no Angel
can help people who are involved in such terror activities.
Paradise and the messages in the Books are very specific. Its just what I found.
Its for the benefit of mankind and for his civilisation in total.
The real civilization is the unity of the family. Anything that divides family
divides civilization and the Paradise progression.
I also want to say that I believe this fulfilment is coming close, the George
Washington prophecy that began in 1777 may beginning to find fulfilment in this
year.
From what I see there will be divine assistance at the end of the third peril.
Where the Union and the greater union of the truth beauty and goodness including
the ideals of the forefathers of personal liberty and spiritual self regulation
by truth and displaying the new ideals set 2000 years ago will STAND!
The Greater Union that will stand and will be based on these above ideals.
However, the opposite to those ideals I don't think will stand and it will due
to there motives in error.
If there is deception coupled with death and destruction upon the other through
untruth there will be severe penalty that will be meted out by the Ancients of
Days.
It appears to be a test of man and his leadership. To see what qualities man has
accrued worthy of Paradise acceptance, to see how much faith he has accumulated
through his forefathers. To see what is true and what is corrupted, to see the
fibre of man and where his true heart lays in his motivation. It could very well
be the sorting of the seed.
This could be a warning for all man on all levels.
The simple answer to this test is just simple faith which is the bridge across
the abyss, in light of the voice coming from the Abyss.
All the best everyone in all your decisions, all this is in your personal hands.
I shall now illustrate with the passage cited by Penner, Column XI:
19–36 of the Thanksgiving Hymns. I offer the Hebrew text for the
interested reader to follow.
vacat 19אודכה אדוני כי פדיתה נפשי משחת ומשאול אבדון
20העליתני לרום עולם ואתהלכה במישור לאין חקר ואדעה כיא יש מקוה לאשר
21יצרתה מעפר לסוד עולם ורוח נעוה טהרתה מפשע רב להתיצב במעמד עם
22צבא קדושים ולבוא ביחד עם עדת בני שמים ותפל לאיש גורל עולם עם רוחות
23דעת להלל שמכה ביחד רנה ולספר נפלאותיכה לנגד כול מעשיכה ואני יצר
24החמר מה אני מגבל במים ולמי נחשבתי ומה כוח לי כיא התיצבתי בגבול רשעה
25ועם חלכאים בגורל ותגור נפש אביון עם מהומות רבה והוות מדהבה עם מצעדי
26בהפתח כל פחי שחת ויפרשו כול מצודות רשעה ומכמרת חלכאים על פני מים
27בהתעופף כול חצי שחת לאין השב ויורו לאין תקוה בנפול קו על משפט וגורל אף
28על נעזבים ומתך חמה על נעלמים וקץ חרון לכול בליעל וחבלי מות אפפו לאין פלט
29וילכו נחלי בליעל על כול אגפי רום כאש אוכלת בכול שנאביהם להתם כול עץ לח
I compared all the translations, listing them side-by-side, in order to
understand where each was different, or where they might have failed. I then
examined the text above, word by word, to determine the best translation,
giving regard for the heartfelt purpose of the passage. I offer my translation
here:19. I give thanks unto Thee, O Lord, for Thou hast redeemed my soul from
destruction and from Sheol Abaddon.
20. Thou hast lifted me up to an everlasting height, so walk I on
unsearchable uplands, and know that there is hope for that which
21. Thou created from the dust for the eternal (secret) council.
This staggering spirit Thou hast cleansed from many transgressions so that he
might take his stand with
22. the host of the holy beings, and enter in union
with the congregation of the sons of heaven. A mere man has everlasting
destiny with the Spirits
23. of Knowledge, to praise Thy name in their chorus, and to declare
Thy wonders before all Thy works. But I,
molded of
24. clay, what am I? Kneaded with water, with whom shall I be counted? What is
my strength? Surely I have taken my stand in the domain of the ungodly
25. and with the unfortunate is my lot. Strife is with this destitute soul.
Amid great tumult and calamity is the portion of my steps.
26. When unstopped are all destructions snares, and dispersed are all the nets
of wickedness, and the hapless set their drags on the face of the waters.
27. When fly off all the arrows of destruction without returning. They burst
forth without hope. The line falls upon judgment, the lot of anger
28. upon the forsaken, the outpouring of wrath upon the dissemblers, and the
end of (burning) anger nourished by Belial. The ropes of death surround with
no escape.
29. The torrents of Belial run upon all his arrogant hordes as a fire
that devours all --------- so as to destroy every green tree
30. and dry. From channels travels a flame that is a blazing fire, until there
comes an end to all who drink. It devours
clay foundations,
31. and solid bedrock. The foundations of the mountains are set to burning.
Granite roots turn to streams of pitch, and it devours down
to the great abyss.
32. The torrents of Belial multiply and burst through unto Abaddon, and the
plotters from the deep in great uproar cast up mire. The earth
33. cries out over the calamity: Lo, the world and all the cunning plotters
quiver as if mad and all those upon it faint.
34. They melt away in the great disaster.
For God will roar in thunderous power from his holy
dwelling in glorious truth.
35. The heavenly host shall add their voice, and the
world's foundations shall shudder and melt - when warfare waged by
the soldiers of heaven
36. shall sweep through the world and shall not turn back
until the decreed destruction, as it were, an everlasting end.
Sevens
Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:38 pm
Hi
I think there is something brewing in the "Kingdom of Heaven" I think we are
the path of the Advent of great change. A conjunction of everything is forming
a oneness. I know people are reluctant to talk to me but I share this to you
as my friends. In the hope that it will help all of us in this grand quest of
truth.
I really believe that Jesus is with us and we are in the presence of him as we
journey through this.
Quote:
Isaiah 10:22-23
For though your people Israel be as the sand of the sea, only a remnant of
them will return. Destruction is decreed, overflowing with righteousness.
For the Lord, Yahweh of hosts, will make a full end, as decreed, in the
midst of all the earth.
Joel 2:30-32
And I will give portents in the heavens and on the earth, blood and fire and
columns of smoke. The sun shall be turned to darkness, and the moon to
blood, when the great and terrible day of Yahweh comes. And it shall come to
pass that all who call upon the name of Yahweh shall be delivered; for in
Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there shall be those who escape, as Yahweh has
said, and among the survivors shall be those whom Yahweh calls.
Enoch 84: 5-6
And now, O God and Lord and Great King,
I implore and beseech Thee to fulfill my prayer,
To leave me a posterity on earth,
And not destroy all the flesh of man,
And make the earth without inhabitant,
So that there should be an eternal destruction.
And now, my Lord, destroy from the earth the flesh which has aroused Thy
wrath,
But the flesh of righteousness and uprightness establish as a plant of the
eternal seed,
And hide not Thy face from the prayer of Thy servant, O Lord.
Matthew 24:22
If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake
of the elect those days will be shortened.
John 5:26
For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to
have life in himself, and has given him authority to execute judgment,
because he is the Son of Man.
John 12:30
Now is the judgment of this world, now shall the ruler of this world be cast
out.
Rev 14:7
And (the angel) said with a loud voice, "Fear God and give him glory, for
the hour of his judgment has come."
Sevens
Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:45 am
Well today, on the 2nd Oct 07
I, in faith, opened the office of the Messiah, the great office of the
Lord Jesus Christ within the Sevenfold building or framework in the Land of
Sinim.
Even though its only email contact, I feel absolutely proud.
Yea! I was completely inspired by the Zadokite Document
http://dalamatiacity.com/zadokite.htm#messiah, I really praise the
Lord for the Essenes and particularly the last teacher of righteousness and his
great works for the future. I feel completely happy and proud that I could
reopen the last teachers of righteousness' office as in office of the Messiah
office and dedicate the heritage of the ages and its various dedications to its
care.
I just felt so sentimental about the Essenes when they closed the last office
soon after Jesus' death only for it to be reopened today through the inspiration
of the great Dead Sea Scrolls and through the promises of Jesus Christ our Lord.
7 7 111
------------------------------------- 8 8 1000(2 to the 3rd power)
9 9 1001 10 A 1 010
going beyond to the 11s 11 B 1011
seems to be have similarities in the matrix Ive been working on regarding the 8
to 1 and 1 to 8.
(date)6(day)96(month)10
7,97,10
8 ,98,10
9,99,10 10, 100,10 perfect tens
going beyond to the 11s in this matrix 11, 101, 10
still looking.
The matrix from the 11:11 prospective and the Aha Sevenfold Matrix seem to match
and yet from different paths. Maybe they are all connected as in the 1 to 8 and
8 to 1 leading to the 1 to 10 and the 11's matrix.
Even you you take the B out of the 11:11 Matrix you get perfection
11 B 1011 and now with out the B
11 1011
then match the Aha Sevenfold, Baruch, Enoch Timing and you get 11, 101, 10
put the numbers together on the 11's
111011
111011
You have perfection on the Eleventh day where the Matrix of 11:11, the Aha
Sevenfold Matrix and the Baruch,and the Enoch time period come into conjunction
in oneness in perfect match on the 11th October 07.
Also Enoch's Seventh week from Jesus UB birthdate is 1-8th Oct 07 another 1 to 8
with the 8th being at the end of Enoch's 7th week. All anchored on the Rock on
Jesus Birthdate 21st August 07.
Its like on the 3rd day, the resurrection in perfection on the 3rd day starting
from the 8th, the Perfect day of Perfection, the 11th Oct 07.
The element in the center represents a human. The element on the left (in the
image) indicates the average height of a person: 1764 mm. This corresponds to
the horizontally written binary 14 multiplied by the wavelength of the message
(126 mm). The element on the right depicts the size of human population in
1974, around 4.2 billion. In this case, the number is oriented horizontally
rather than vertically, with the least-significant-digit marker to the upper
left in the image.
and the reply from the message sent to space through a crop circle.
The Arecibo reply was the name given to a crop circle that appeared in
farmland next to the Chilbolton radio telescope; home to the Search for
Extraterrestrial Intelligence Institute (SETI) in Hampshire, UK, on 19 August
2001. It was 75 feet wide and 120 feet long. The design is so named because it
appears to be a response to the Arecibo message, which SETI transmitted into
space in 1974.
The crop circle design features two images. The first is a pixelated halftone
image of a face resembling either a grey or the Face on Mars. The second image
resembles the original Arecibo message though changed in a number of key
elements, said by Ufologists to be a reply sent to Earth by an alien
species.[1]
As with all crop circles, the origin of the Arecibo reply is highly debated.
Known crop circle designers have not replicated the image at this stage.
Binary Indices
The binary index of a line is the decimal
equivalent of the line considered as a binary number.
For example, the binary index for 00111011 is 59 .
The combination of a line’s length and binary
index uniquely characterizes the line. The line
length is needed because leading zeros are lost in
computing binary indices. For example, 00111011, 111011, and 000000111011 have the same binary
The line at the beginning of this section is
uniquely identified by 8:59
I think Ive went as far as I could go. I tried to
give it some value along with the numbers through the scripts and through
general links that contained the numbers in other research.
To me it feels right and really comes together in accordance to a timeline I'm
working on.
Its seems to actually intersect with the date October 11th the 10th month which
is the 101th day from 4thJuly a timeline I'm working on.
Also I feel the 8 to 1 mentioned by Crowley had relevance as the 98 day from the
4thJuly is intersected by an even 49 days (7x7) either side of Jesus Birthdate
Aug21st. The 98th day (49+49) which ends on the 8th Oct 07 then you have 3 day
until the 11thOct the Elevens day. ha elevens day almost sounds like Sevens day.
So we have period that begins on an 8 then goes to 0ne or an eleven. I don't
think I can make it easier than that, its a continual thing. I'm trying to work
it out as I post.
Anyway, it was a good thread to look into I enjoyed the study.
In the following may going a little far and
may loose relevance. going by faith
I also notice that in the red pyramid you a 2
14 fourteens and 2 Sevens breaking the 14's down you have 4 sevens plus
the 2 other Sevens........ 6 Sevens all together. Also you have 4 one's a
11:11 feature and you have 2 threes and one 9 a multiple of 3, breaking the nine
down you have 3....three's + two 3's...all together you 6 three's.
Also you have one 2.
With the 29 add the 2 and the 9 and you have 11,
an 11 feature. Now with the 59 just add the 5+9 and you have another 14
which is another 2 ...7's
In summary of the red Pyramid after the final
breakdown you have after all that creative imagination.
8 Sevens
(including the breakdown of the 3 fourteens into sevens + the existing 2 Sevens)
5 threes
(breaking down of the 9 into multiples of 3 + the existing 3's)
4 ones, (a 1111 feature)
1 two
1 Eleven (addition of the 2 and 9 = 11)
The 8 Sevens to one 11 or to the ones
8: 1 ratio is like a long rod.
posted
10-02-2007 05:32 PM
Just going from the last post in the other thread about the Iching, this is what
I found
quote:
The I Ching has fascinated the
Western mind ever since a copy was sent to Leibniz from China by the Jesuit
priest Bouvet in 1689. The ebook The Tao of the I Ching is a refreshing new
look at the very basis of the I Ching’s Hexagrams. The underlying or inner
structure of the Hexagrams has beentao_in_trigrams03 reviewed by the author
with the use of zero within the binary and the Base 8 system of numbering.
What has been discovered is unique and will not only challenge the Western
mind yet again but the Eastern mind as well.
Hey thanks for the encouragement and tips but I
think III rest on this one, If I go further it may get really weird and non
relevant why it could be already. I wouldn't know but it was quite inspiring
having a bash at the combination of prophecy in the Binary timeline and the Base
8 system, the foundation systems we use today.
This system is an amazing rediscovery and it wide ranging application.
Everything rests on the Base 8 system.
Amazing.
I thought Maybe you might be able to take it further wirelessguru as its your
area.
For me, as combination multiple prophecies forming multiple conjunctions in a
timeline and which is I feel is reflected in some sort of Binary intersect make
me quite satisfied.
It was good and rewarding search, However I suppose we have to see the
prophetical relevance in timeline.
Certainly more interesting than watching bad quality, jerky gross pixeltion
movies with the stupid spin that they are reptilians morphing and linking them
some world conspiracy.
Sevens
Posted:
Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:10 am
Post subject:
I think I would love
to see a 5 part 10 hour series on the life and teachings of Jesus including the
piece of the young man that was afraid.
That to me would be more touching and much closer to the real reality.
I think what is on offer just creates a different spin on the Urantia Revelation
which is unrealistic and quite shallow.
Sorry but thats my gut feel.
I also think a massive production to the ancient places would be another great
production particularly if all was verified undeniably like the recovery of the
7 commands inscribed on stone slabs.
That to would last the complete distance and would have a desired expansion in
truth.
What I see in the trailer is just Hollywood and a love for the transformers.
However, I suppose I would see the movie if it came out.
I saw something about Echelon last night on Google.
Apparently its a few paranoid people concerned about an reptilian conspiracy.
its a perpetuation of reptilian theory. A David Icke extension.
I saw a video of a really bad pixalated cell phone movies made in bad light
examining the morphing features of people. Thinking they where demon possessed
people with reptilian side effects but actually In my opinion it was only the
product of poor quality videos in bad light.
Its just an example of spreading fear and paranoid feelings based on bad quality
cell videos. I mean to say everyone has a good side and bad side in there
physical profile and coupled with pixelation and fast jerky actions it can
construe anything.
Echelon this and Echelon just a lot of Garbage. Mans crap in seeking stupid
things that have nothing to do with the real realities going on.
Also in my journey Ive never come across any conspiracy at all from any
government that I have sent my thoughts to with images.
Nothing. no Echelon, no reptiles. Nothing!
Its just man and his bull crap!
Anyway how do you know that those videos on Google are manipulated to suit a
purpose. You know one guy watches some guy say Echelon on Google video and away
man goes thinking this guy is correct and knows nothing about the guy.
Also haven't you heard of the person going green before he feels sick. What now
thats a reptilian thing now, its just bull.
Echelon only exists in someone paranoid mind.
I reckon man should get prepared for revealing of the Messiah more so than seek
Echelon, as that means the creator of all beings including sub breathers like
ourselves and Non breathers according to the UB revelation that probably evolved
on the Moon way before us.
The Echelon is way of the mark.
Look, I do acknowledge there is a non breather race living close by and they
inhabit both the Moon and Mars. I believe thy are different to us and are the 3
brain hemisphere type and can communicate through the mind.
I believe these Mortals are different to us but are the same in the spirit and
have the same desires for God as we do, I believe they live more so the life of
Jesus than we do.
These beings are different and yet physical, they die like we do and I believe
they are of the Fusion series while we are of the Adjuster series. Being on a
Life experimental planet we are completely unique.
Now these Non breather brothers of ours are more advanced than we are as they
have mastered the art of AntiGravity coupled with AntiMatter and you see the
demonstration in the flying ships that can hop in and out of different
dimensions. The UB gives the clue. They are closer to the Master Physical
Controllers than what we will ever be because they are more spiritual and they
needed this extra level of connection to survive the meteorites early in there
evolution.
If we had that technology in this world in its current form...God
Forbid...However I believe in the new world we will have this technology
available as the elect and those who survive can be trusted.
Being more advanced than us if they were hostile they could over power us. No
doubt about it but instead they observe and whats more I believe they know the
the Creator of this universe is coming or is here already. Guiding many things.
I believe the Non Breather brothers are here to help us through this transition.
Like I embrace my brother here in this work I embrace them to in the path of
truth, beauty and Goodness.
Jesus did say that all that is hidden will be revealed!!
posted
10-02-2007 05:25 PM
Yes, its interesting, I can across a link
about the I ching magic squares and I saw the same Binary code that I was
working on contained within.
Do you know much about the Iching magic squares? and what they do, it was a
little late last night, been going all day on this.
sevens
Wed Oct 03, 2007 3:12 am
Quote:
Matt 24:9-14
"Then they will deliver you up to tribulation, and put you to death; and you
will be hated by all nations for my name's sake. And then many will fall away, and betray one
another, and hate one another. And many false prophets will arise
and lead many astray. And because wickedness is multiplied, most men's love
will grow cold.
But he
who
endures to
the end
will be saved. And this
gospel of the
kingdomwill be preached
throughout the
whole world, as
a testimony
to all nations; and
then the
end will come.
The way I see it.
I just get the feeling that the Gospel of Jesus has been preached throughout
the world for the last 2000 years, However the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven
hasn't been preached in the fullest extent and is a little different where the
Gospel speaks specifically about the Wider Kingdom including Jesus and his
role in the Grand Kingdom. I find that the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven
will expand the Gospel of Jesus that will incorporate the whole "Kingdom of
Heaven and its workings fully. In this journey the message speaks of Jesus and
the Kingdom of Heaven specifically in the widest viewpoint. Being on the
Internet as an on the run journey to the first places, it has been released to
all the nations where everyone can read it and emails have been sent to
governments in conflict with little result.
In addition to this journey, it does include a testimony, a spiritual journey
in the search for the ancient places, discovered in the images and spoken
about by the prophets in part. The journey is the testimony to the nations and
individuals. He who has faith and endures to the end through the abyss will
make it. It does say that many will fall away, it also speaks of a voice
coming from the abyss.
I wouldn't be surprised if this journey fulfills the above Matthew prophecy.
Its is exactly how I see it in this journey all linking to a testimony that
will change Science, religion, and everything else forever.
The Ub
Quote:
And when
the kingdom shall have come to
its full fruition
be assured that the Father in heaven will
not fail to visit you with an
enlarged
revelation of truth and an
enhanced
demonstration of righteousness,
To me that means a new revelation with the Kingdom of Heaven expanded and a
demonstration as in the testimony to the ancient places, a journey of faith and
nothing but. testimony = Test in the
demonstration, in the beforehand.
In other words all the historical information
like this journey to the ancient places will be completely successful and will
documented in the Ages to come, this is another victory for Jesus and the
"Kingdom of Heaven" I believe this is the endorsement of the journey and its
destined success.
All in the beforehand before its destined time and its is all related and
connected to the "Heritage of the Ages" which is ours.
From the Office of the Messiah! right on!!!!! From the best Boss and friend in
the world! Jesus the Messiah or from the Melchizedek he is like the
Messiah in these times to.
sevens
Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:15 am
Quote:
the
historic facts and religious truths
of this series of revelatory presentations will
stand on the records of the ages to come,
I am just fascinated when I look at this piece. It is the mirror of the
foundations that underpin this adventure to the first places of this planet.
It has all to do with historic facts and its is paralleled by religious truths
that led to the discovery of the places in the images.
These places and the whole journey is the crown as spoken about by St Ephraim
. Its a real throne construct that will be with us in all the ages. I am so
sure it is the journey to the places of our origins and dealing of truth about
them.
I just think of anything of this magnitude.
all the best
sevens
Wed Oct 03, 2007 1:11 pm
'm just thinking about the last teacher of
Righteousness before the the community of Qumran was disbanded from the
Roman Advance.
From what I understand Jesus lived close to the Essenes, I'm not sure if he
had contact with them but I wouldn't be surprised if he did, as there is a
copy of the Sevenfold Peace sermon given by Jesus recorded by the Last
teacher of righteousness.
The ESSENE GOSPEL OF PEACE
including the THE SEVENFOLD PEACE
And seeing the multitudes, Jesus went up into a mountain, and his disciples
came unto him, and all those who hungered for his words. And seeing them
gathered, he opened his mouth and taught them, saying:
"Peace I bring to thee, my children,
I feel the Last teacher of righteousness was revising all the scriptures in
light of the truth he was receiving within himself about the end times , he
knew that his office was to finish only to arise in a latter time as seen in
the Zadokite document, the time was close that the office would close. I
feel that during the time of Jesus ' ministry the Last teacher of
righteousness was already getting the construct of the end times and I feel
Jesus was in touch with the Essenes in one form or another.
I feel that when Jesus went up to the mountain and deliver the
Sevenfoldpeace Jesus delivered a sermon which was in essence the construct
and the brining together of the last construct in the future latter times.
Jesus was delivering the final picture, the final reality image of all the
components and the teacher of righteousness was recording it for the benefit
of the future, completing the picture of the end times. I'm not actually
sure if it was the last teacher of righteousness who recorded the Jesus,
Sevenfold peace. However, I'm sure the Essenes took heed of Jesus' prophecy
of the end times of the temple in Jerusalem as they hid there scrolls in the
caves near the dead sea only to be revealed at another time at a time of
real relevance.
The last teacher of righteousness who studied the Zadokite Document could
see that teacher of righteousness would close his office, the last teacher
of righteousness before the closure of the office revealed his thoughts on
who the Melchizedek was in the scriptures and also corrected some of the
wrong notions. He was correct from what I can see respecting the Sage of
Salem and his identity including the Fathers in the scriptures.
Just to think the office of the Messiah would be opened in which fulfils
the teacher of righteousness prophecy of the Zadokite document, only to be
reopened some 2000 years later just amazes me, at a time of great relevance
in the current direction of the planet. Upon realizing the following text in
the Zadokite document, I was inspired that the office of the Messiah can be
reopened today for planetary business in along the journey to the cities and
also in accordance to the foresight of the last teacher of righteousness
which I believe leads back ultimately to the Melchizedek.
Here is the following scripture I used to reopen the office of the Messiah
in this day in the current journey to the ancient places.
It just amazes me the Dead Sea scrolls is the heart and soul of the Essenes
and it came through in the end with flying colours in total in harmony with
Jesus. The Dead Sea scrolls arose for a purpose and fulfilled it purpose and
I'm sure the Angel of the gate protected the scrolls like Enoch for this
event we see arising.
Quote:
All those that entered into the new
covenant in 'the land of Damascus' but subsequently relapsed and played
false and turned away from the well of living
waters shall not be reckoned as of the
communion of the peoplenor inscribed in
the roster of it throughout the period
from the time the teacher of the community is
gathered to his rest until that in which the lay and
the priestly messiah [anointed] assume their
office.
To me above is loaded about the End times. turned away from the well of living waters
shall not be reckonedI believe this the ever lasting well
spring of truth arising from the depths of the abyss, the lost submerged
cities and all the truth about them including the journey also i\mentions
that those who turn away from the well spring of truth will not be
considered or be listed on the roster of the cummunity which in essence
means will not enter the "Kingdom of Heaven". inscribed in the roster
To me that has reflections in metaphor of the current quest for the Seven
commands that they lay submerged in the Persian Gulf. More so its what they
represent and the attitudes of people I feel will be accounted for. The
Seven commands I'm sure its part of the test. Inscribed on the roster, who
is inscribed on a roster, those with faith. Hopw enters the "Kingdom of
Heaven" That I feel is like in the Book of life in revelations, the people
of faith in Jesus and his personal guidance in the path of truth.
the period from
the time the teacher of the community is gathered
to his rest It appears to me that there is a period set for
when this event may occur. The period of time seem to represent the time
when the office of the last Teacher of righteousness' office will close and
the time when the Messiahs office is to opened in the future when the
Messiahs assumes his office. By my opening the physical office of the
Messiah on this website could especially be, in light of this journey an
activation point and could be another piece in the puzzle.
the lay and
the priestly messiah [anointed] assume their
office. The Office of the Messiah is an office opened by the
lay, the normal humble followers of Jesus and the Father in the Kingdom of
Heaven. The Messiahs office just opened in the physical and realized is just
another another piece in this mystery and fulfills the Zadokite prophecy and
could be point of real movement and rest, a Sevenfold time of realization.
the priestly messiah [anointed] assume their
office This could be the actual revealing of Jesus and
Melchizedek in bright light assuming there office or the opening of there
physical office could be the beginning of the revealing. We could be in the
very moment of realization as we are on the greatest and most epic journey
ever in the annals of mankind and Jesus is the guiding Light.
I feel completely inspired that I have opened this office for the Messiah. I
feel its a absolute privilege to do this and I'm completely inspired by the
idea of it and especially being on this journey to the Crowns of the planet,
the treasure houses of truth, beauty and goodness worthy of Paradise ascent
and descent.
and here is what I feel are reflections of the 7 commands, the ancestral
covenant to all the forefathers including the 10 commandments, the Seven
commands and its discovery would also endorse the 10 commands by virtue.
Quote:
Howbeit, what Moses said of old, 'Not for
thy righteousness nor for the uprightness of thy heart art thou going in
to possess these nations but because of His
love wherewith He loved thy forefathers
and because He would keep the oath' [cf.
Deut. 9.5],85 applies equally to those in Israel
who in those latter days show repentance and
eschew the way of the rabble. The same
love which God showed to the men of old
who pledged themselves to follow Him
will He
show also to their successors. The ancestral Covenant shall stand good
for them.
That ancestral covenant could very refer to the Seven Commands that lay
submerged in the Gulf ready for discovery.
That is an ancestral covenant made to the races from Dalamatia City, the
first place, thats where the first Seven commands where handed down to man
by the Sons of Gods but unfortunately they lost there first estate, most of
them.
Only to be rediscovered today in the physical through books of religion
adding life to the scriptures, opening the books to the great discovery.
Sevens
And this huge piece from the Zadokite Document
that I feel in metaphor points to the uncovering of the truth and the Seven
commands that are to be digged as a demonstration of the guidance in this
journey of the "Kingdom of Heaven"
Quote:
God still remembered
the Covenant which He had made
with their forbears and raised from
the priesthood men of discernment and from
the laity men of wisdom, and He
made them hearken to Him.
And these men 'dug the well'-that well whereof it
is written, 'Princes digged it, nobles of the people delved it, with
the aid of a mehoqeq' [Num. 21.18]. The 'well' in question is the Law. They
that 'digged' are those of Israel who repented and departed from the land of
Judah to sojourn in the land of Damascus'. *
the Covenant The covenant in
relation toan ancient promise to there forebears and of old and reflects the
Seven commands in relation to the journey to the ancient places, they also
reflect the Noahide 7 commands. and raised from the priesthood men of
discernment and from the laity men of wisdom,
The Father in this situation is raising up men of discernment as they venture
through books of all religion without pride and prejudice and who can go by
there inner leadings on the journey. This new priesthood comes from normal
people of the world who humble and have faith in there inner guidance of the
truth.
'dug the well'-that well whereof it is
This to me has reflections of the Well or a dig where a great discovery is made,
it infers a well so the object of the search is submerged and underwater, It
appears to been discovered beforehand in the books that leads them to the well
where they have beforehand knowledge.
The 'well' in question is the Law. They that 'digged' Now in
metaphor this piece seems to reflect the object of the underwater dig, the
object is related to law and I would say the Seven commands and the discovery of
it.
The discovery of the Seven Commands from the well of truth is the all to do with
the law, the first law of the father or the law of Noah in the Seven commands
which in metaphor reflects the situation we have in the test or judgment
process.
So the the above has all the components we see n th\is journey,
Its all to do with an underwater discovery seen in the beforehand, the discovery
was the Seven commands and it had all to do with law of God.. It also reveals
that children of the Father discovered this and those who repented and had faith
in the journey.
Also its all to do with a covenant made to the forebears and a fulfillment of an
ancient promise to the children of Israel in the rediscovery of them submerged.
Its also where the books are opened in association with a new book.
Sevenfold peace of the Essenes For only in movement
Doth it reveal its purpose
Quote:
David, however, had never read
the Book of Law, for it was
sealed up in the ark and remained unopened in
Israel from the day when Eleazar and Joshua and the Elders were gathered to
their rest. The
people worshiped Ashtoreth, while the ark
remained hidden and
unopened
until indeed
a Zadokite
entered into office
The Office and the Kingdom of Heaven is a
spiritual office, its services is of a spiritual nature representative of
Paradise. The Kingdom of Heaven is a spiritual Kingdom, the office of the
Messiah was opened this week in faith, to me this fulfills the above and the Ark
of the Covenant will begin to open and reveal itself in movement, the promises
of the Lord will come to pass.
Its amazing that by pure inspiration in the Zadokite document, the Office of the
Messiah was opened only then to see it and realized as found spoken about in the
document only later to see this action reflected in the proclamation of faith.
That to me was a beforehand experience only to realize it after the fact.
I just praise the Father in The Kingdom of Heaven" Glory be to the Father. We
all stand tall in his Love for his children.
Sevens
Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:37 pm
Here is something I did on Noahs Ark in relation
to the journey, I feel it could be a type to today's scenario regarding the
ancient places
Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:18 am The opening of
the office
Ive been thinking about this lately and in faith.
I claim for the Father and Paradise, Dalamatia City the first capital, 1stEden
the second capitol and the 2 Dilmuns to the possession of the Father and the
office of the Messiah unto his purposes in the use of these places. The ancient
cities and the messages in scripture based on the Urantia Book fragments
including all the books of religion.
Just staking the claim for Jesus, the ancient places for his purposes in the
Planetary administration of this planet for Paradise purpose.
As far as I'm concerned the Father in Paradise
owns these places. I'm sure the Angel of the Gate stands at the ready, ever
ready. I'm sure the holy ones stand there gilded in light of the Father from
within. I believe he takes possession of all the ancient places and therefore
creates a legal basis of the places for paradise purpose.
Essentially he takes back what was his especially the 1st and 2nd temples of the
Father from eras unknown to man.
