Incidentally, September 18th 07 is one year and
later day after the two Dilmun/Nodite cities referred in the UB where found
using NASA worldwind software.
Babel/Dilmun and 1st Susa was found on September 16-17th at midnight.
And if we connect "And nothing will prevent
the people who will be in the Garden of Eden
from seeing their Lord except the curtain of
Majesty over His Face"
Could this be a parallel of the above Hadith script in the actual reality and
therefore could it be that September 18th 07 could be a good date for rapture.
I'm not to sure hot on the doctrines of Rapture but I have seen it the
scriptures and in the dead sea scrolls. The Elect and the holy race descending
with Jesus to witness the judgment and Ive seen it in Enoch to.
To me I see much metaphor. Like the Nodite cities where seen in the images one
day before that date and they where the cities built by the fallen (so called)
Gods. To me that has hallmarks of the subject of the discovery looking deeper,
the reason for why we have confusion on this planet. The 2 cities discovered
in the same night has great significants and the day after a prophecy in an
Hadith completes.
Don't you find that totally interesting!! Its the mystery and the truth of the
mystery has been broken and then something executes in the reality and its all
to do with the ancient places as mentioned in metaphor to the 1st Garden of
Eden.
Surely that has to mean something!!
"And nothing will prevent the people
who will be in the Garden of Eden
Thats right, no matter what the reality is out there in the world nothing will
prevent this from occurring. If that happens then I would say that would be a
very obvious sign. That the first stages of Judgment has occurred if a rapture
occurs.
Hey but these are only my thoughts on the matter and personally I'm quite
perplexed about many things that are quite possible. Going by these verses.
I personally think there is truth hidden in all the books just like in this
sharing. I am quite sure that the ancient places will light up all the
relevant and hidden fragments which point to the places. To me this is the
best connection and parallel that Ive seen so far that directly states it and
gives a forecast date in accordance to my own reality of the 40 day test and
its blending and extension with Enoch. Perhaps the Seventh Part is still be in
progress. But for how much longer? Lest we forget Jesus' Birthdate 21st August
07BC. On the 22 August 07 will be the new millennium 2000 Jesus' UB date. You
just never know.
And the nocturnal omen arises in the 2nd Month and completes in seven months
on the Ninth month, Feb 7th - Sept 7th, 07
Anyway, September looks like a very interesting time period within my own
personal research.
The numbers for me just stack up with perfection. There is Seven beforehand
synchronicities with 7 markers or Sevenfold groupings all over this.
I think its the seal, the Seventh Seal, quite possible! To me it has the
Seventh Angel aspect all over it.
I cant help to see and think of all the matches in the beforehand, spontaneous
declarations and then finding it scripture or in the Seven timeline.
Is someone trying to tell us something??
Another thing Lets say that this correct is and actually on the cards. If by
chance a rapture occurs (3 billion to one) and lets say this feed of
information closes and it becomes obvious there is a population that simply
vanishes worldwide. Mind you I have no idea how many but I would think the
Elect would be few. I'm not sure!
I'm contemplating many things in terms of the end times, its quite compelling
from what I see and there is a period in sight that I can see. I was thinking
if this occurs around these dates then I'm sure a tribulation will occur
perhaps. I wonder if people will read these posts? the archive if these feeds
stopped, I wonder if you'll miss me...ahahaha!
Well there is a great archive of info to work with that was given in the in
the spirit of the Holy Spirit I believe. It would be useful to man as he
endures, I reckon and it was probably the purpose of the journey to leave a
testament, like the ark of the testament, without me realizing at the time but
until sometime in the future! Perhaps after an event? Who knows only the
father. But somehow I think the Father is leading us with clues and even date
period...if I'm right!!
Well this is what I think.
If rapture occurs then all will fulfill and then when Jesus comes back with
his Sons, the Elect, the great heavenly gathering in the presence of the
Father in the Kingdom of Heaven and the Ancients of Days and the Most High. it
will be a great time for the remnants that still hold to faith in the Father
in truth, beauty and goodness in the spirit of Lord Jesus.
In revelation it speaks about "all the books being opened including the book
of life"
The thing is, if I kept this back and withheld
this information for price or reward. How utterly useless would it be for the
purposes of the Father?? in the on coming beforehand event. You never know this
journey could be life boat to the final execution of judgment. I can
understand Isaiah in what he meant by that not for price or reward! Given
out of concern for my fellow brother whoever it is.
Whilst this information that I spill forth may seen utterly useless to most and
completely out there. You never know it could quite valuable after the rapture
and will be the testament for those left behind that people might really on to
and which leads to the new book. Thats where it leads and incorporates all the
existing books. The completion. In the time after rapture, this would be one
source or a main source that would provide a safe passage to judgment by
everything that has been spoken about. The ante will have been raised!! When it
becomes obvious and great fear will set in, I'm sure of it. However when
regrouped and the dust settle focus can be given to this knowledge all the
knowledge. If this is the case no doubt somebody will be activated to find the
ancient places. To verify.
This is where the problem arises, I reckon this could be the time of the anti
Christ, the vulnerable period. Where everything is up in the air and there is
great perplexity among everyone. Everyone becomes suddenly spiritual, no doubt
the religions will and then its a matter of interpretation with the evidence in
the beforehand left behind.
This may be the demonstration in this case! Remember he who discovers this will
not taste death which in effect infers rapture for people who do the will of the
Father. Also in Nostradamus he speaks the same where the one is invited to be
immortal which infers translation which again speaks of rapture in the
beforehand of judgment.
sevens
Quote:
The hidden treasures will spill forth
at his command.
He will stay on this Earth for a period of forty days;
Its just like in the above "He will stay on the earth for forty days" So what
happens after 40 days? that person must go somewhere like into "the Kingdom of
Heaven"
This in itself refers to rapture or being taken away or being invited to be
immortal.
Even sharing this I feel a close to this testament where it enters a new phase
of manifestation. It could occur that the places will be verified in the in
between time or it could be reserved exclusively for those after the execution
of judgment. Where this ancient places might be risen from the depths of the
waters, where what is hidden will be reserved post judgment to his people.
They might discover it in part through submersibles and so forth however it
may be verified in full where you could walk around Dalamatia city or 1stEden.
The Ark of the Testament, like a life a lifeboat of truth
that leads somewhere in the in between time.
post rapture - pre judgment. Is this the purpose I ask myself.
Its just like in type to Noah and the ark
and Deluge of 40 days. This journey could be in type and the new book with
all relevant books with the relevant truth that lights up could be the life
boats post rapture and then to judgement. It will establish itself.
However in this case, we are in type to
the animals that entered the ark of life.
They stopped in Jericho on the way up to
Jerusalem and were overtaken by a delegation from Mesopotamia that had come to
confer with Jesus. The apostles had planned to spend but a day here, but when
these truth seekers from the East arrived, Jesus spent three days with them, and
they returned to their various homes along the Euphrates
happy in the knowledge of the new truths of the
kingdom of heaven.
and
Do not strive with men--always
be patient. It is not your kingdom; you are only ambassadors.
Simply go forth proclaiming: This is the kingdom of
heaven--God is your Father and you are his sons, and this good news, if
you wholeheartedly believe it, is your eternal salvation."
and
The second week of the sojourn at Bethany
beyond Jordan, Jesus took Peter, James, and John into the hills across the river
and south of Jericho for a three days' rest. The Master
taught these three many new and advanced truths about the kingdom of heaven. F
and
The apostles were beginning to recognize the
unaffected friendliness of Jesus. Though the Master was easy of approach, he
always lived independent of, and above, all human beings. Not for one moment was
he ever dominated by any purely mortal influence or subject to frail human
judgment. He paid no attention to public opinion, and he was uninfluenced by
praise. He seldom paused to correct misunderstandings or to resent
misrepresentation. He never asked any man for advice; he never made requests for
prayers.
James was astonished at
how Jesus seemed to see the end from the beginning.
The Master rarely appeared to be surprised. He was never excited, vexed, or
disconcerted. He never apologized to any man. He was at times saddened, but
never discouraged.
and
Although Peter, James, and John could not
understand very much of what Jesus said on this occasion, his gracious words
lingered in their hearts, and after the crucifixion and resurrection they
came forth greatly to enrich and gladden their subsequent ministry. No wonder
these apostles did not fully comprehend the Master's words,
for he was projecting to them the plan of a new age.
Greece provided a language and a culture, Rome
built the roads and unified an empire, but the dispersion of the Jews, with
their more than two hundred synagogues and well-organized religious communities
scattered hither and yon throughout the Roman world, provided the cultural
centers in which the new gospel of the kingdom of heaven
found initial reception, and from which it subsequently
spread to the uttermost parts of the world.
and
The Gospel of John, the last of the narratives
of Jesus' earth life, was addressed to the Western peoples and presents its
story much in the light of the viewpoint of the later Alexandrian Christians,
who were also disciples of the teachings of Philo.
At about the time of Christ a
strange reversion of feeling toward the Jews occurred in Alexandria, and from
this former Jewish stronghold there went forth a virulent wave of persecution,
extending even to Rome, from which many thousands were banished. But such a
campaign of misrepresentation was short-lived; very soon the imperial government
fully restored the curtailed liberties of the Jews throughout the empire.
Throughout the whole wide world, no
matter where the Jews found themselves dispersed by commerce or oppression, all
with one accord kept their hearts centered on the holy
temple at Jerusalem. Jewish theology did survive as it was interpreted
and practiced at Jerusalem, notwithstanding that it was
several times saved from oblivion by the timely intervention of certain
Babylonian teachers.
As many as two and one-half million
of these dispersed Jews used to come to Jerusalem for the celebration of their
national religious festivals. And no matter what the theologic or philosophic
differences of the Eastern (Babylonian) and the Western (Hellenic) Jews,
they were all agreed on
Jerusalem as the center of their worship and in
ever looking forward to the coming of the Messiah
and
5. THE GENTILE RELIGIONS
Throughout preceding ages religion had
chiefly been an affair of the tribe or nation; it had not often been a matter of
concern to the individual. Gods were tribal or national, not personal. Such
religious systems afforded little satisfaction for the individual spiritual
longings of the average person.
In the times of Jesus the religions of
the Occident included:
1. The pagan cults. These were a
combination of Hellenic and Latin mythology, patriotism, and tradition.
2. Emperor worship. This
deification of man as the symbol of the state was very seriously resented by the
Jews and the early Christians and led directly to the bitter persecutions of
both churches by the Roman government.
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3. Astrology. This pseudo
science of Babylon developed into a religion throughout the Greco-Roman Empire.
Even in the twentieth century man has not been fully delivered from this
superstitious belief.
4. The mystery religions.
Upon such a spiritually hungry world a flood of mystery cults had broken, new
and strange religions from the Levant, which had enamored the common people and
had promised them individual salvation. These religions rapidly became
the accepted belief of the lower classes of the Greco-Roman world.
And they did much to prepare the way for the rapid spread
of the vastly superior Christian teachings, which presented a majestic
concept of Deity, associated with an intriguing theology
for the intelligent and a profound proffer of salvation for all,
including the ignorant but spiritually hungry average man of those days.
The mystery religions spelled the end
of national beliefs and resulted in the birth of the numerous personal cults.
The mysteries were many but were all characterized by:
1. Some mythical legend, a
mystery--whence their name. As a rule this mystery pertained to the story of
some god's life and death and return to life, as illustrated by the teachings of
Mithraism, which, for a time, were contemporary with,
and a competitor of, Paul's rising cult of Christianity.
2. The mysteries were nonnational and
interracial. They were personal and fraternal, giving rise to religious
brotherhoods and numerous sectarian societies.
3. They were, in their services,
characterized by elaborate ceremonies of initiation and impressive sacraments of
worship. Their secret rites and rituals were sometimes gruesome and revolting.
4. But no matter what the nature of
their ceremonies or the degree of their excesses, these
mysteries invariably promised their devotees salvation,
"deliverance from evil, survival after death, and enduring
life in blissful realms beyond this world of sorrow and slavery."
But do not
make the mistake of confusing the teachings of Jesus with the mysteries.
The popularity of the mysteries reveals man's quest for survival, thus
portraying a real hunger and thirst for personal religion and individual
righteousness. Although the mysteries failed adequately to satisfy this
longing, they did prepare the way for the subsequent
appearance of Jesus, who truly brought to this
world the bread of life and the water thereof.
Paul, in an effort to utilize the
widespread adherence to the better types of the mystery
religions, made certain adaptations of the teachings of Jesus so as
to render them more acceptable to a larger number of
prospective converts. But even Paul's
compromise of Jesus' teachings (Christianity) was superior to the best in the
mysteries in that:
1. Paul taught a moral redemption, an
ethical salvation. Christianity pointed to a new life and proclaimed a new
ideal. Paul forsook magic rites and ceremonial enchantments.
2. Christianity presented a religion
which grappled with final solutions of the human problem, for it not only
offered salvation from sorrow and even from death, but it also promised
deliverance from sin followed by the endowment of a righteous character of
eternal survival qualities.
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3. The mysteries were built upon myths.
Christianity, as Paul preached it, was founded upon a historic fact: the
bestowal of Michael, the Son of God, upon mankind.
Morality among the gentiles was not
necessarily related to either philosophy or religion. Outside of Palestine it
not always occurred to people that a priest of religion was supposed to lead a
moral life. Jewish religion and subsequently the teachings of Jesus and later
the evolving Christianity of Paul were the first European religions to lay one
hand upon morals and the other upon ethics, insisting that religionists pay some
attention to both.
Into such a generation of men,
dominated by such incomplete systems of philosophy and perplexed by such complex
cults of religion, Jesus was born in Palestine. And to this same generation he
subsequently gave his gospel of personal religion--sonship with God.
line 129: The Jewish traditions of heaven and hell and the doctrine of
devils as recorded in the Hebrew scriptures, while founded on the lingering
traditions of Lucifer and Caligastia, were principally derived from the
Zoroastrians during the times when the Jews were under the political and
cultural dominance of the Persians. Zoroaster, like the Egyptians, taught the
"day of judgment," but he connected this event with
the end of the world.
and
line 67: It was only natural that the cult of renunciation and humiliation
should have paid attention to sexual gratification. The continence cult
originated as a ritual among soldiers prior to engaging in battle; in later days
it became the practice of "saints." This cult tolerated marriage only as an evil
lesser than fornication. Many of the world's great religions have been adversely
influenced by this ancient cult, but none more markedly than Christianity. The
Apostle Paul was a devotee of this cult, and his personal views are reflected in
the teachings which he fastened onto Christian theology: "It is good for a man
not to touch a woman." "I would that all men were even as I myself." "I say,
therefore, to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them to abide even as I."
Paul well knew that such teachings were not a part of Jesus' gospel, and his
acknowledgment of this is illustrated by his statement, "I speak this by
permission and not by commandment." But this cult led Paul to look down upon
women. And the pity of it all is that his personal opinions have long influenced
the teachings of a great world religion. If the advice of the tentmaker-teacher
were to be literally and universally obeyed, then would the human race come to a
sudden and inglorious end. Furthermore, the involvement of a religion
with the ancient continence cult leads directly to a war against marriage and
the home, society's veritable foundation and the basic institution of human
progress. And it is not to be wondered at that all such beliefs fostered the
formation of celibate priesthoods in the many religions of various peoples.
line 229: 10. The guarantee of the freedom of religious practices to the
end that all of these other social activities may be exalted by
becoming spiritually motivated.
line 296: If men would maintain their freedom, they must, after having
chosen their charter of liberty, provide for its wise, intelligent, and
fearless interpretation to the end that there may be prevented:
Urantia mortals are entitled to liberty; they
should create their systems of government; they should adopt their constitutions
or other charters of civil authority and administrative procedure. And having
done this, they should select their most competent and worthy fellows as chief
executives. For representatives in the legislative branch they should elect only
those who are qualified intellectually and morally to fulfill such sacred
responsibilities. As judges of their high and supreme tribunals only those who
are endowed with natural ability and who have been made wise by replete
experience should be chosen.
If men would maintain their freedom, they must,
after having chosen their charter of liberty, provide for its wise, intelligent,
and fearless interpretation to the end that there may be prevented:
1. Usurpation of unwarranted power by either the
executive or legislative branches.
2. Machinations of ignorant and superstitious
agitators.
3. Retardation of scientific progress.
4. Stalemate of the dominance of mediocrity.
5. Domination by vicious minorities.
6. Control by ambitious and clever would-be
dictators.
7. Disastrous disruption of panics.
8. Exploitation by the unscrupulous.
9. Taxation enslavement of the citizenry by the
state.
10. Failure of social and economic fairness.
11. Union of church and state.
12. Loss of personal liberty.
These are the purposes and aims of constitutional
tribunals acting as governors upon the engines of representative government on
an evolutionary world.
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Mankind's struggle to perfect government on
Urantia has to do with perfecting channels of administration, with adapting them
to ever-changing current needs, with improving power distribution within
government, and then with selecting such administrative leaders as are truly
wise. While there is a divine and ideal form of government,
such cannot be revealed but must be slowly and
laboriously discovered by the men and women
of each planet throughout the universes of time and space.
[Presented by a Melchizedek of Nebadon.]
and
line 97: "The kingdom of heaven
is also like a treasure hidden in a field, which a
man discovered. In his joy he went forth to sell all he
had that he might have the money to buy the field."
After the people had asked a few questions, Jesus
spoke another parable: "The kingdom of heaven is like a grain of mustard seed
which a man sowed in his field. Now a mustard seed is the least of seeds, but
when it is full
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grown, it becomes the greatest of all herbs and
is like a tree so that the birds of heaven are able to come and rest in the
branches thereof."
"The kingdom of heaven
is also like leaven which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal, and in
this way it came about that all of the meal was leavened."
line 97: "The kingdom of heaven is also
like a treasure hidden in a field,
which a man discovered. In his joy he went forth to sell all he had that he
might have the money to buy the field."
"The kingdom of heaven
is also like a merchant seeking goodly pearls; and having found
one pearl of great price, he went out and sold
everything he possessed that he might be able to buy the extraordinary pearl."
"Again, the kingdom of
heaven is like a sweep net which was cast into the
sea, and it gathered up
every kind of fish. Now, when the net was
filled, the fishermen drew it up on the beach, where
they sat down and sorted out the fish, gathering the good into
vessels while the bad they threw away."
Many other parables spoke Jesus to the
multitudes. In fact, from this time forward he seldom taught the masses except
by this means. After speaking to a public audience in parables, he would, during
the evening classes, more fully and explicitly expound his teachings to the
apostles and the evangelists.
On Sabbath,June 22,
shortly before they went out on their first preaching tour and about ten days
after John's imprisonment, Jesus occupied the synagogue pulpit for the second
time since bringing his apostles to Capernaum.
A few days before the preaching of this sermon on
"The Kingdom," as Jesus was at work in the boatshop, Peter brought him the news
of John's arrest. Jesus laid down his tools once more, removed his apron, and
said to Peter: "The Father's hour has come. Let us make ready to proclaim the
gospel of the kingdom."
Jesus did his last work at the carpenter bench on
this Tuesday, June 18, A.D. 26. Peter rushed out of the shop and by midafternoon
had rounded up all of his associates, and leaving them in a grove by the shore,
he went in quest of Jesus. But he could not find him, for the Master had gone to
a different grove to pray. And they did not see him until late that evening when
he returned to Zebedee's house and asked for food. The next day he sent his
brother James to ask for the privilege of speaking in the synagogue the coming
Sabbath day. And the ruler of the synagogue was much pleased that Jesus was
again willing to conduct the service.
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Before Jesus preached this memorable sermon on
the kingdom of God, the first pretentious effort of his public career, he read
from the Scriptures these passages: "You shall be to me a kingdom of priests, a
holy people. Yahweh is our judge, Yahweh is our lawgiver, Yahweh is our king; he
will save us. Yahweh is my king and my God. He is a great king over all the
earth. Loving-kindness is upon Israel in this kingdom. Blessed be the glory of
the Lord for he is our King."
When he had finished reading, Jesus said:
"I have come to proclaim the establishment of the
Father's kingdom. And this kingdom shall include the worshiping souls of Jew and
gentile, rich and poor, free and bond, for my Father is no respecter of persons;
his love and his mercy are over all.
"The Father in heaven sends his spirit to indwell
the minds of men, and when I shall have finished my work on earth, likewise
shall the Spirit of Truth be poured out upon all flesh. And the spirit of my
Father and the Spirit of Truth shall establish you in the coming kingdom of
spiritual understanding and divine righteousness. My kingdom is not of this
world. The Son of Man will not lead forth armies in battle for the establishment
of a throne of power or a kingdom of worldly glory. When my kingdom shall have
come, you shall know the Son of Man as the Prince of Peace, the revelation of
the everlasting Father. The children of this world fight for the establishment
and enlargement of the kingdoms of this world, but my disciples shall enter the
kingdom of heaven by their moral decisions and by their spirit victories; and
when they once enter therein, they shall find joy, righteousness, and eternal
life.
"Those who first seek to enter the kingdom, thus
beginning to strive for a nobility of character like that of my Father, shall
presently possess all else that is needful. But I say to you in all sincerity:
Unless you seek entrance into the kingdom with the faith and trusting dependence
of a little child, you shall in no wise gain admission.
"Be not deceived by those who come saying here is
the kingdom or there is the kingdom, for my Father's kingdom concerns not things
visible and material. And this kingdom is even now among you, for where the
spirit of God teaches and leads the soul of man, there in reality is the kingdom
of heaven. And this kingdom of God is righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy
Spirit.
"John did indeed baptize you in token of
repentance and for the remission of your sins, but when you enter the heavenly
kingdom, you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.
"In my Father's kingdom there shall be neither
Jew nor gentile, only those who seek perfection through service, for I declare
that he who would be great in my Father's kingdom must first become server of
all. If you are willing to serve your fellows, you shall sit down with me in my
kingdom, even as, by serving in the similitude of the creature, I shall
presently sit down with my Father in his kingdom.
"This new kingdom is like a seed growing in the
good soil of a field. It does not attain full fruit quickly. There is an
interval of time between the establishment of the kingdom in the soul of man and
that hour when the kingdom ripens into the full fruit of
everlasting righteousness and eternal salvation.
"And this kingdom which I declare to you is not a
reign of power and plenty. The kingdom of heaven is not a matter of meat and
drink but rather a life of progressive righteousness and increasing joy in the
perfecting service of my
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Father who is in heaven. For
has not the Father said of his children of the world, `It is my will that they
should eventually be perfect, even as I am perfect.'
"I have come to preach
the glad tidings of the kingdom. I have not come to add to the heavy
burdens of those who would enter this kingdom. I proclaim the new and better
way, and those who are able to enter the coming kingdom
shall enjoy the divine rest. And whatever it shall cost you in the
things of the world, no matter what price you may pay to enter the kingdom of
heaven, you shall receive manyfold more of joy and
spiritual progress in this world, and in the age to come eternal life.
"Entrance into the Father's kingdom waits not
upon marching armies, upon overturned kingdoms of this world, nor upon the
breaking of captive yokes. The kingdom of heaven is at
hand, and all who enter therein shall find abundant liberty and joyous
salvation.
"This kingdom is an everlasting dominion. Those
who enter the kingdom shall ascend to my Father; they will certainly attain the
right hand of his glory in Paradise. And all who enter
the kingdom of heaven shall become the sons of God, and in the age to come so
shall they ascend to the Father. And I have not come to call the
would-be righteous but sinners and all who hunger and thirst for the
righteousness of divine perfection.
"John came preaching repentance to prepare you
for the kingdom; now have I come proclaiming faith, the
gift of God, as the price of entrance into the kingdom of heaven. If
you would but believe that my Father loves you with an infinite love, then you
are in the kingdom of God."
When he had thus spoken, he sat down. All who
heard him were astonished at his words. His disciples marveled. But the people
were not prepared to receive the good news from the lips of this God-man. About
one third who heard him believed the message even though they could not fully
comprehend it; about one third prepared in their hearts to reject such a purely
spiritual concept of the expected kingdom, while the remaining one third could
not grasp his teaching, many truly believing that he "was beside himself."
James was astonished at how
Jesus seemed to see the end from the beginning.
The Master rarely appeared to be surprised. He was never excited, vexed, or
disconcerted. He never apologized to any man. He was at times saddened, but
never discouraged.
and
Quote:
Mankind's struggle to perfect
government on Urantia has to do with perfecting channels of administration,
with adapting them to ever-changing current needs, with improving power
distribution within government, and then with selecting such administrative
leaders as are truly wise. While there is a divine
and ideal form of government, such cannot be revealed but must be
slowly and laboriously discovered by the men and women of each planet
throughout the universes of time and space.
and
Quote:
As many as two and one-half million
of these dispersed Jews used to come to Jerusalem for the celebration of
their national religious festivals. And no matter what the theologic or
philosophic differences of the Eastern (Babylonian) and the Western
(Hellenic) Jews, they were all agreed on
Jerusalem as the center of their worship and in ever looking forward to the
coming of the Messiah
and lastly
Quote:
Do not
strive with men--always be patient. It is not your kingdom; you are
only ambassadors. Simply go forth proclaiming:
This is the kingdom of heaven--God is your Father and you are his
sons, and this good news, if you wholeheartedly believe it, is your eternal
salvation."
8. SERMON ON THE KINGDOM On Sabbath, June 22, shortly before they went out on their
first preaching tour and about ten days after John's imprisonment, Jesus
occupied the synagogue pulpit for the second time since bringing his
apostles to Capernaum.
A few days before the preaching of this sermon on "The Kingdom," as Jesus
was at work in the boatshop, Peter brought him the news of John's arrest.
Jesus laid down his tools once more, removed his apron, and said to Peter:
"The Father's hour has come. Let us make ready to proclaim the gospel of the
kingdom."
Jesus did his last work at the carpenter bench on this Tuesday, June 18,
A.D. 26. Peter rushed out of the shop and by midafternoon had rounded up all
of his associates, and leaving them in a grove by the shore, he went in
quest of Jesus. But he could not find him, for the Master had gone to a
different grove to pray. And they did not see him until late that evening
when he returned to Zebedee's house and asked for food. The next day he sent
his brother James to ask for the privilege of speaking in the synagogue the
coming Sabbath day. And the ruler of the synagogue was much pleased that
Jesus was again willing to conduct the service.
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Before Jesus preached this memorable sermon on the kingdom of God, the first
pretentious effort of his public career, he read from the Scriptures these
passages: "You shall be to me a kingdom of priests, a holy people. Yahweh is
our judge, Yahweh is our lawgiver, Yahweh is our king; he will save us.
Yahweh is my king and my God. He is a great king over all the earth.
Loving-kindness is upon Israel in this kingdom. Blessed be the glory of the
Lord for he is our King."
When he had finished reading, Jesus said:
"I have come to proclaim the establishment of the Father's kingdom. And this
kingdom shall include the worshiping souls of Jew and gentile, rich and
poor, free and bond, for my Father is no respecter of persons;
his love and his mercy are over all.
"The Father in heaven sends his spirit to indwell the minds of men, and when
I shall have finished my work on earth, likewise shall the Spirit of Truth
be poured out upon all flesh. And the
spirit of my Father and the Spirit of Truth shall establish you in the
coming kingdom of spiritual understanding and divine righteousness.
My kingdom is not of this world. The Son of Man will not lead forth armies
in battle for the establishment of a throne of power or a kingdom of worldly
glory. When my kingdom shall have come, you shall know the Son of
Man as the Prince of Peace, the revelation of the
everlasting Father.The children of this world fight for the
establishment and enlargement of the kingdoms of this world, but
my disciples shall enter the kingdom of heaven by
their moral decisions and by their spirit victories; and when they
once enter therein, they shall find joy, righteousness, and eternal life.
"Those who first seek to enter the kingdom, thus beginning to strive
for a nobility of character like that of my Father, shall presently possess
all else that is needful. But I say to you in all sincerity: Unless you seek
entrance into the kingdom with the faith and trusting dependence of a little
child, you shall in no wise gain admission.
"Be not deceived by those who come saying here is the kingdom or
there is the kingdom, for my Father's kingdom
concerns not things visible and material.
And this kingdom is even now among you,for
where the spirit of God teaches and leads the soul of man, there in reality
is the kingdom of heaven. And this kingdom of God is righteousness,
peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit.
"John did indeed baptize you in token of repentance and for the remission of
your sins, but when you enter the heavenly kingdom, you will be baptized
with the Holy Spirit.
"In my Father's kingdom there shall be neither Jew nor gentile, only those
who seek perfection through service, for I declare that he who would be
great in my Father's kingdom must first become server of all. If you are
willing to serve your fellows, you shall sit down with me in my kingdom,
even as, by serving in the similitude of the creature, I shall presently sit
down with my Father in his kingdom.
"This new kingdom is like a seed growing in the good soil of a field. It
does not attain full fruit quickly. There is an interval of time between the
establishment of the kingdom in the soul of man and that hour when the
kingdom ripens into the full fruit of everlasting righteousness and eternal
salvation.
"And this kingdom which I declare to you is not a reign of power and plenty.
The kingdom of heaven is not a matter of meat and drink but rather a
life of progressive righteousness and increasing
joy in the perfecting service of my
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Father who is in heaven. For has not the Father said of his children of the
world, `It is my will that they should eventually be perfect, even as I am
perfect.'
"I have come to preach the glad tidings of the kingdom. I have not
come to add to the heavy burdens of those who would enter this kingdom. I
proclaim the new and better way, and those who are
able to enter the coming kingdom shall enjoy the divine rest.
And whatever it shall cost you in the things of the world, no matter what
price you may pay to enter the kingdom of heaven, you shall receive manyfold
more of joy and spiritual progress in this world, and in the age to come
eternal life.
"Entrance into the Father's kingdom waits not upon marching armies,
upon overturned kingdoms of this world, nor upon the breaking of captive
yokes. The kingdom of heaven is at hand,
and all who enter therein shall find abundant liberty and joyous salvation.
"This kingdom is an everlasting dominion. Those who enter
the kingdom shall ascend to my Father; they will certainly attain the right
hand of his glory in Paradise. And all who
enter the kingdom of heaven shall become the sons of God,
and in the age
to come so shall they ascend to the Father. And
I have not come to call the would-be righteous but
sinners and all who hunger and thirst for the righteousness of divine
perfection.
"John came preaching repentance to prepare you for the kingdom; now have
I come proclaiming faith, the gift of God, as the
price of entrance into the kingdom of heaven. If you would
but believe that my Father loves you with an infinite love, then you
are in the kingdom of God."
When he had thus spoken, he sat down. All who heard him were astonished at
his words. His disciples marveled. But the people were not prepared to
receive the good news from the lips of this God-man.
About one third who heard him believed
the message even though they could not fully comprehend it; about one third
prepared in their hearts to reject such a purely spiritual concept of the
expected kingdom, while the remaining one third could not grasp his
teaching,many truly believing that he "was beside himself."
(my words Is this percentage of unbelievers the same scenario in this case
of the journey to the ancient places?)
sevens
Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:04 am the end from the beginning
rapture
Quote:
Gospel Thomas 1
And he said, "Whoever discovers the interpretation of these sayings will not
taste death."
and here is another intersecting parallel from the Book of Thomas.
"Tell us how our end will be." Jesus
said, "Have you discovered, then, the beginning, that you look for the end?
For where the beginning is, there will the end be.
Blessed is he who will take his place in the
beginning; he will know the end and will not experience death,"
Again the above refers to Rapture!
No doubt about it! "he will know the end and will not experience death"
Because the elect and faithful will be translated and ascend to the kingdom of
Heaven.
Taken away for rest only to witness the
execution of judgment or some transition or revealing of truth.
Quote:
Isaiah 46:10 Parallel Translations
NASB: Declaring the
end from the beginning,
And from ancient times things which have not been
done, Saying, 'My purpose will be
established, And I will accomplish all My
good pleasure'
and the
urantia book
Quote:
James was astonished at how
Jesus seemed to see
the end from the beginning.
The Master rarely appeared to be surprised. He was never excited, vexed, or
disconcerted. He never apologized to any man. He was at times saddened, but
never discouraged.
sevens
Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:55 am
Quote:
Form the UB
From the Sermon on the Kingdom.
"This kingdom is an everlasting dominion.
Those who enter the kingdom shall ascend to my Father; they will
certainly attain the right hand of his glory
in Paradise. And all who enter the kingdom of heaven shall become the
sons of God, and in the age to comeso shall they ascend to the Father.And I
have not come to call the would-be
righteous but sinners and all who hunger and
thirst for the righteousness of divine perfection.
in the age to come (rapture before the new
Epoch) Rapture!! before the age.
Who knows may be September might be spot on
and be a good time for a rapture!
I feel it
will be a beautiful moment for the elect to meet with Jesus our friend in
Heaven in the beforehand.
It could be
a Architectural sphere, on of the abodes of Heaven. The Elect could be
residing there temporarily only to come back and tell of there witness in
the presence of the The Father, Lord Jesus, The Melchizedeks, the angels and
the tree of Life! perhaps in the temple that descends from Heaven.
Built upon Paradise designs and materials.
Our very own translation temple given by the "kingdom of Heaven" to mankind.
This new world of Jesus will be on another
level and will be an absolute improvement to what we have today. It will be
a real Utopian world with a great improvement in pollution free technologies
where food, clean water and shelter will be all be provided. As we build
this new far reaching inter space community with the help of Paradise.
It will be a real up step where man will be free and respected on all levels
and will not be subject to the harsh will of others and few!
When this begins to arise with a major sign of Rapture there will be many
people that will be set free within their souls knowing that the end of what
know is in sight! Remember nothing will prevent this. When the mystery is
uncovered by man and it could be any one, once it is in the consciousness of
man ...its activated and begins to run where no man can stop it!
It runs its course!
I'm sure where are in the EVENT HORIZON of change, all the numbers
stack up and the events.
I'm sure rapture is the sign that will signify the transition and change.
I sense we are about to enter the Star Trek/Stargate of change in real life
where no man has ever gone to. This is real up step and the real leap for
mankind. In truth!
And this is the testimony of Change where prophecy is fulfilling itself!
Whatever happens in the world today nothing
will prevent this. It will just happen and those who click on to this will
know when it happens or the general timing! They will have a confidence.
I say yea! and Right on!!
Sevens
Sevens
cookie5151
I agree to, I think we are slipping into the Seven years
But there is rapture.
Have confidence! like your forefathers of the union
The Lord Jesus will come through and the union will stand! and that means
everyone!
Jesus the Messiah is on the way, swiftly he approaches to the rescue of the
planet!
C 2
Q 28 The moon in the middle of the night . . .On
that night in the western Pacific on the flight deck of the Adriatic Sea,
drifting with a full moon on a still night inspired to find the ancient
places. Looking yonder in the silvery moon. The young sage
alone with his mind has seen it.(Seen the path, the truth and the
construct) His disciples invite him tobecome immortal . . .(invited to partake
of the tree of life by the angels. become immortal, translation.) His body in the fire.(translation fire
passing through to the next dimension of existence, the Angelic realm.)
The disappearance of the Young Sage could be all
related to Rapture! His rapture would be the sign that tribulation and
judgment is on the way .
If this is the case in this journey to the ancient places and rapture does
occur. I would suggest the whole site
http://www.dalamatiacity.com Hey but if it doesnt happens I will be
here! to whether the storm.
and more on the the younger sage
Quote
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The realm left to two they will hold it very briefly, Three years and seven months passed by they will
make war:
The two Vestals will rebel in opposition, Victor the younger in the land of Brittany.
Land of Brittany could be a colony of Britain in the future. The war could
be a spiritual war and could begin with the Rapture!
and this one...says it all, its about Post
Rapture and judgment
Quote:
82 Through the deserts of the free and wild place,
The nephew of the great Pontiff will come to wander: Felled by
sevenwith a heavy club, By those who afterwards will occupy the
Chalice.
"By those who afterwards will occupy the Chalice" When the elect and
faithful come back
The temple of Heaven coming down, that will
be the true seat!
Rapture!
sevens
Last Edit: Today at 6th Aug
09:44:33 pm by sevens »
posted
08-05-2007 11:34 PM
I believe something is stirring in the
heavens from what I'm finding in the research.
Those with no faith and disbelieve will miss out in the first opportunity.
Rapture will be the great sign!
Everyone's day is approaching soon keep vigilant in the month of September
because the Atlantis Gods are here to bite your asses from your disbelief.
Either you're in or out, no in between! and crappy pitiful spiritual bribery!
only sincerity and truth!
No mucking around this time around, Paradise means business now! The call will
come soon through mass disappearance of the Elect and faithful who are true in
doing the will of the Father. after this obvious sign occurs, the mass planetary
tribulation begins. The Elect are the future leaders that will help to fix this
planet with Jesus. Like it or leave it!
Jesus will have the last laugh in the planetary saga.
ahahahahahahahahah!
Everything looks good and all the
numbers fall into place with perfection, unlike anything on this planet.
Yes and it all came from the 40 day
test that was declared on 4th July 06.
Least the Tuvalans will be happy! they
will get there home back. No thanks to current mankind
So if I disappear, as according to the
scriptures and you don't here from me for perhaps seven years, be rest assured,
I and the elect will be a back with Kingdom of Heaven on Earth to witness the
execution of disbelief, unfaithfulness, disloyalty to the Father without
repentance.
The second opportunity will be the
actual judgment of the rebellion by Paradise with the Ancient Days. If you don't
get your act together by then and respond with your heart, there are no other
chances.
It might as well be as if you were never born. You might as go join the rebels
with no hope of survival.
Anyway we are coming in to the period of change.
Hey! you can mock all you like but no one will prevent this first rapture sign
of happening! After the event all the elect that stablise this planet will be
taken and then the planet is left with the devices of the last rebel Caligastia.
But he will be finally thwarted by Jesus, the King!.
This is the ultimatum to disbelievers and arrogant people within there own
selfish world. It can be anyone and no doctrine is going save no one. This
journey is of the individual soul and of faith and living in accordance to the
10 commandments, no stuffing around.
Your either in or out in the first
opportunity.
sevens
posted
08-05-2007 11:59 PM
Riven
Times is approaching soon, get prepared!
The Gods are coming!!!!!!
Justice, the law, the Maat, is appearing in the great disappearance.
That will be the great sign.]
Its coming soon. The journey to the ancient places is the demonstration of truth
in the beforehand!
Hymn I.
The Pearl-Seven Hymns on the Faith from the Eastern Christian Church of Syria
300BC written by St Ephraim
1. On a certain day a pearl did I take up, my brethren;
I saw in it mysteries pertaining to the Kingdom;
semblances and types of the Majesty; it became a fountain, and I drank
out of it mysteries of the Son.
I put it, my brethren, upon the palm of my hand, that I might examine
it: I went to look at it on one side, and it proved faces on all sides. I
found out that the Son was incomprehensible, since He is wholly Light.
In its brightness I beheld the Bright One Who cannot be clouded, and
in its pureness a great mystery, even the
Body of our Lord which is well-refined: in its
undividedness I saw the Truth which is undivided.
It was so that I saw there its pure conception,-the Church, and the
Son within her. The cloud was the likeness of her that bare Him, and her type
the heaven, since there shone forth from her His gracious Shining.
I saw therein His trophies, and His victories, and His crowns. I saw
His helpful and overflowing graces, and His hidden things with His revealed
things.
2. It was greater to me than the ark,
for I was astonied thereat: I saw therein folds without shadow to them because
it was a daughter of light, types vocal without tongues, utterances of
mysteries without lips, a silent harp that without voice gave out melodies.
(The internet and the information that comes through without the
utterances of lips.)
The trumpet falters and the thunder mutters; be not thou daring then;
leave things hidden, take things revealed.
Thou hast seen in the clear sky a second shower; the
clefts of thine ears, as from the clouds, they are filledwith interpretations.
And as that manna which alone filled the people, in the place of
pleasant meats, with its pleasantnesses, so does
this pearl fill me in the place of books, and the reading thereof, and the
explanations thereof.
And when I asked if there were yet other mysteries, it had no mouth
for me that I might hear from, neither any ears wherewith it might hear me.
O thou thing without senses, whence I have gained
new senses!(sounds like a description of the internet and it
branches with spread of knowledge.)
(Here is the clue to the ancient places an answer to the previous question)
3. It answered
me and said, "The daughter of the sea am I, the
illimitable sea!And from that sea whence
I came up it is that there is a mighty
treasury of mysteriesin my bosom! Search thou out the sea, but
search not out the Lord of the sea!
"I have seen the divers who came down after
me, when astonied, so that from the midst of
the sea they returned to the dry ground; for a few moments they
sustained it not. Who would linger and be searching
on into the depths of the Godhead?
(tells you quite clearly that the God head is submerged under the sea where
Divers come and go and bring the mystery to dry land. Its confounding and they
search the God head for truth. It is the discovery of the 7 commands in my
view)
"The waves of the Son are full of blessings, and with mischiefs too.
Have ye not seen, then, the waves of the sea, which if a ship should struggle
with them would break her to pieces, and if she yield herself to them,
and rebel not against them, then she is preserved?
(the effect of the discovery under the waves of the sea and the effect it has
for the rebellious and some good advice.)
In the sea all the Egyptians were choked, though they scrutinised it
not, and, without prying, the Hebrews too were overcome upon the dry land, and
how shall ye be kept alive? And the men of Sodom
were licked up by the fire, and how shall ye prevail?
(Judgment)
"At these uproars the fish in the sea were
moved,and Leviathan also.Have ye then a heart of stone that ye read these
things and run into these errors?O great
fear that justice also should be so long silent!" (Error and
fear that occurs post rapture up to judgment).
4. "Searching is mingled with thanksgiving, and whether of the two
will prevail? The incense of praise riseth along with the fume of disputation
from the tongue, and unto which shall we hearken? Prayer and prying [come]
from one mouth,and which shall we listen to?
(Looks like there is two people involved in the discoveries of the ancient
places, this represents parting of the ways, which path do you choose!
obstinate mankind! which voice will you listen to, the one disputation or the
voice of truth??)
"For three days was Jonah a neighbour [of mine]
in the sea: the living things that were in the sea were aftrighted, [saying,]
"Who shall flee from God?
Jonah fled, and ye are obstinate at your scrutiny of Him!"
Our Lord had brethren and yet not brethren, since He was an Only-Begotten. O
solitary one, thou type exact of the Only-Begotten!
There is a type of thine in the crown of kings,[wherein]
thou hast brothers and sisters.
Goodly gems are thy brethren, with beryls and unions as thy companions: may
gold be as it were thy kinsman, may there be unto
the King of kings a crown from thy well-beloved ones!When thou camest up from the sea, that living
tomb, thou didst cry out. Let me
have a goodly assemblage of brethren, relatives, and kinsmen.
As the wheat is in the stalk,
so thou art in the crown with princes:and it is
a just restoration to thee, as if of a pledge,that from that depth thou shouldest be exalted to
a goodly eminence.Wheat the stalk bears in the field;thee the head of the king upon his chariot
carries about.
O daughter of the water, who hast left sea, wherein thou wert born, and art
gone up to the dry land, wherein thou art beloved: for men have loved and
seized and adorned themselves with thee, like as they did that Offspring
Whom the Gentiles loved and crowned themselves withal.
It is by the mystery of truththat Leviathan is trodden down of mortals:
the divers put him off, and put on Christ.
In the sacrament of oil did the Apostles steal Thee away, and came up. They
snatched their souls from his mouth, bitter as it was.
Thy Nature is like a silent lamb in its sweetness, of which if a man is to
lay hold, he lifts it in a crucial form by its ears, as it was on Golgotha.
He cast out abundantly all His gleams upon them that looked upon Him.
2. Shadowed forth in thy beauty is the beauty of the Son, Who clothed
Himself with suffering when the nails passed through Him. The awl passed in
thee since they handled thee roughly, as they did His hands; and because He
suffered He reigned, as by thy sufferings thy beauty increased.
And if they showed no pity upon thee, neither did they love thee: still
suffer as thou mightest, thou hast come to reignI Simon Peter showed pity on the Rock;
whoso hath smitten it, is himself thereby overcome; it is by reason of Its
suffering that Its beauty hath adorned the height
and the depth.
and
another fragment
Quote
Thou didst show thy beauty among the abjects to
show whereto thou art like, thou Pearl
that art all faces.The beholders were
astonied and perplexed at thee. The separatists separated thee in two, and
were separated in two by thee, thou that art of one substance throughout.
It seems to me there is division amongst the discovers and the confusion
perhaps amongst the religions.
They saw not thy beauty, because there was not in them the eye of
truth. For the veil of prophecy, full as it was of the mysteries; to them
was a covering of thy glistering faces: they thought that thou wast other
[than thou art], O thou mirror of ours! and therefore these blind
schismatics defiled thy fair beauty.
Exactly right they not the beauty in the beforehand moment because they
never had the eye of truth to see these things as they proclaim, Pride and
Prejudice.
Quote
To-day Godhead sealed itself upon Manhood,
that so with the Godhead's stamp Manhood might
be adorned.
and another fragment from St Ephraim. How instrumental is Enoch in this
journey to the Ancient places!! Here is a direct reference to Enoch which
connects to the part knowledge base of this project which comes from Enoch.
Quote
The soul of just men perceive in the Son a Medicine of life; and so it
felt desires that He might come in its own
days, and then would it taste His sweetness.
Enoch was longing for Him,
Hey a message for the Banks
Quote
Watch not we as usurers, who thinking on money put to interest, watch at
night so oft, to reckon up their capital, and interest.
18. Again, the
diver brings up-out of the sea the pearl.-Be baptized and bring up
from the water-purity that therein is hidden,-the
pearl that is set as a jewel-in the crown of the Godhead.
18. Again, the diver brings up-out of the sea the pearl.-Be baptized
and bring up from the water-purity that therein is hidden,-the pearl that is
set as a jewel-in the crown of the Godhead. The Godhead is the
ancient places from the sea. I mean this is so obvious now.
and
The tower that the many builded,
in mystery
looked for One, who coming down would build
on earth a tower that lifts up to Heaven.
reference to the journey to the ancient places and the discovery of the
circular foundations of the tower of Babel in Dilmun. I have found it through
the books of religion and mystery.
This is direct reference again to Dilmun through Babel like in Isaiah "rising
of the Sun"
sevens
Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:49 pm
Quote:
It is by
the mystery of truth that Leviathan is trodden down of mortals:
the divers put him off, and put on Christ
Mankind finds the mystery, the rebels are defeated by mankind himself through
the uncovering of the mystery, Those divers who discover the 7 commands become
followers of Jesus the King and our friend.
Where does the Leviathan live? in the abyss, from the sea, the truth comes
from the sea, the treasure house.
All from St Ephraim 7 hymns of the pearl.
Here is another fragment. How true is this to the current reality in the
journey to the ancient places.
Quote:
The trumpet falters and the thunder
mutters; be not thou daring then; leave things hidden,
take things revealed. Thou hast seen in the
clear sky a second shower; the clefts of thine
ears, as from the clouds, they are filled
with interpretations..Interesting that this experience is
the second time around, the first time was upon discovery in July 06. But
this time around the research and the discoveries are much deeper and more
defined in the reality and encompasses every submerged place. When I made
the call last year I suppose it did falter but I did find the 2 Nodite
submerged Dilmuns which relates to today.
And as that manna which alone filled the people, in the place of
pleasant meats, with its pleasantnesses, so does
this pearl fill me in the place of books, and the reading thereof, and the
explanations thereof. Well what can I say, the complete journey
to the ancient places has been all through the books and through software
and the Internet. The focalisation was the ancient places and the fragment
which relate to them. I never realized that the journey could lead to
potential rapture of the elect.
Even in
light of the hardship in doing this, the discoveries throughout the books
has been manna from heaven. Everything about this revealing of the ancient
places is just Manna from heaven, from the throne of the Father.
"leave things hidden,
take things revealed."referring to on the run
revealing in following the bidding of the Father in the books. Taking
what is revealed on the run, as we move down the timeline.
sevens
Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:01 pm
FROM THE ESSENE BOOK OF JESUS
THE SEVENFOLD PEACE
recorded by the last teacher of righteousness of the Essenes.
Quote:
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/eden/essene_eden.htm
Yea, I tell thee truly, The paths are seven The
sevenfold truth is all about this place, points to the journey Through the Infinite Garden, To the ancient places, the
submerged treasure houses. And each must be traversed The ancient places is in
parallel to restoration and each of us individually must traverse the path
to the Father. By the body, the heart and the mind As one, To encompass
the whole truth and live the best you can. Lest thou stumble fall in Disbelief and ignore and not
investigate, this could be the problem...consider all things. Into the abyss of emptiness. one could be very disappointed
in this for not believing particularly if this leads to rapture. For as a bird cannot fly with one wing, All knowledge must
be considered, all the books have to examined properly. So doth thy Bird of Wisdom Wisdom has to be searched for.
Need two wings of Power and Love The full array, the full
compilment of truth, complete. simple faith!
Rapture To soar above the abyss Victory through wisdom in the books
and victory through the rapture. The abyss is the post
rapture/tribulation/judgment period of the remnant. To the Holy Tree of Life. The Tree of life is associated,
the destination of the raptured and ultimately the remnant.
The above could be advise and a life boat to the oncoming time. I feel its
good advise now to prepare yourself now and also gives advise of wisdom for
the remnant on how to overcome the post rapture, tribulation and Judgment
period.
When it happens everyone will looking into the books. and the threads left
behind will be the life boats, the real Ark. Like St Ephraim said, it is
greater than the Ark, all this knowledge is the Ark of the Testament of the
Rapture!
Im so sure this research is right and right on the mark!
A demonstration of rapture would prove the research and the journey and
verification of the places in rapture alone! And what if the Seven commands
where discovered post rapture, a double confirmation on the highest level.
Blessed He Who sealed our soul, and adorned it
and espoused it to Himself. Blessed He Who made our Body a tabernacle for His
unseen Nature. Blessed He Who by our tongue interpreted His secret things.
Let us praise that Voice whose glory is hymned with our lute, and His virtue
with our harp. The Gentiles have assembled and have come to hear His strains
Blessed be the Physician Who came down and amputated
without pain, and healed wounds with a medicine that was
not harsh. His Son became a Medicine, that showed sinners mercy.
Blessed be He Who dwelt in the womb, and wrought therein
a perfect Temple, that He might dwell in it, a Throne that He might be in it,
a Garment that He might be arrayed in it, and a Weapon that He might conquer
in it.
The Rapture declaration
to the Ancients of Days Tuesday Aug 07, 2007
8:37 pm
I petition to the Ancients of Days in the
Universal courts of Jerusem in faith to call in Rapture on planet
Earth and invite Jesus to come on behalf of mankind at the earliest possible
convenience of the Father and the Ancients of Days. I invite Jesus to help fix
the planet through his guidance and participation as described in the
scriptures. I make this declaration based on my personal journey to the ancient
places and the truth I feel I have uncovered and discovered. I feel I have
uncovered the Seventh mystery so on the basis of that I make this declaration to
the universal courts of the Ancient of Days that rapture be declared as revealed
in the Scriptures inside and outside the Bible which includes the Urantia Book
and the relevant Hadith. Done!
OK
If I'm wrong, I look like a fool over the timeline slowly the research will
become part of a planetary end time statistic. However, If I am right and
correct in this research and journey there will be a rapture disappearance as
described in the scriptures at some stage in the near future. That will verify
the journey and suddenly initiate the next stage of discovery and act as a life
boat at the same time extending to all the books of religion pertinent to the
journey.
That I am sure its the "Ark of the Testament" that is the life boat post
rapture and its connected to the ancient places as in a real virtual time fight
for the survival of mankind and his destiny! This also refines the scriptures in
all books of all religions where truth is defined through demonstration. Its
very serious business!
Too late to turn back now as the petition is now
lodged in the universal courts ready for reply! Man has to make this petition
himself! Like in a court but this courts is of the heavenly courts of the
universal rulers. The Ancient of Days, its in there realm now of jurisdiction.
Its been placed in a sheer act of faith and confidence in the journey
encompassing the research to the first places of the Sons of Gods right through
to Adam and Eve to our times.
What's done is done! Note that this is a
spontaneous declaration where I have just noticed the date post declaration Aug
07, 2007 8:37 pm,. sevens! amazing! how appropriate! No
premeditation, I just woke up, in my contemplation I felt aroused to do it and
did it! made the declaration..
Its is of Paradise and Universal government
interest.
I feel the time is ripe in the research,
everything has fallen into place, all pieces of the puzzle have come together as
best as possible considering the budget. It needs several expeditions to verify
and recover from all the places, the Seven commands stone slabs. This would have
happen post rapture - pre judgment. This would verify the truth as laid out in
the beforehand to the event of rapture. The ancient places itself would be the
confirmation and another great sign that Jesus is our King and friend is on the
way! with the holy race not to mention all the angels.
Sevens.
posted
08-07-2007 04:08 PM
Orion von Koch
For sure! For sure. Orion Lets got it on. ahahahahahahah Lets go forth where no
man has gone before! ahahah
I made the declaration about an hour ago based on some fragments that I
uncovered in my research and through the personal journey. Because mankind is
going nowhere at this pace!
I made the petition of Rapture to the
Ancient of Days based on some fragments that I uncovered in my research and
through the personal journey to the ancient places. Because mankind is going
nowhere at this pace!
Because Man I'm sick of the crap and the terrorism. Who can do anything about it
and find a real solution...no one! It out of control.
I personally couldn't care if this out or in of doctrine.
This is the journey of Sevens, the instructions of Seven, the Seven doctrine.
ahahahahahahah Im having a laugh!
Either in or out! If you have no faith! ahahah
simple as that!
anyway see what happens on the good ship sevens, I'm telling you if this journey
is right to the ancient places this should not be under estimated. If I'm right
in my research there will be a demonstration and it may be severe and
disappointing for many because they missed the first portal but there is a
second portal. I'm just letting you know in the beforehand and consider
everything!
Something like this could happen at
any time, any hour and we are in the season. People may think religion is some
joke but in this journey its real and virtual and happening. It appears that a
relevant correction may occur where religion maybe the only thing we have left
even though the scriptures will be refined as through the reality.
Living religion at the end of the day might be the only life boat mankind has!!
The parable of the Sower would define this beforehand of the reality.
C 2
Q 28 The moon in the middle of the night . . . The young sage
alone
with his mind has seen it. (Seen the path, the truth and the
construct) His disciples invite him tobecome immortal . . . (invited to partake
of the tree of life by the angels. become immortal, translation.) His body in the fire. (translation fire
passing through to the next dimension of existence, the Angelic realm.)
The disappearance of the Young Sage could be all related to Rapture! His
rapture would be the sign that tribulation and judgment is on the way .
If this is the case in this journey to the ancient places and rapture does
occur. I would suggest download the whole site
http://www.dalamatiacity.com Hey but if it doesn't happens I will be
here! to whether the storm.
and more on the the young sage
Quote
95
The realm left to two they will hold it very briefly, Three years and seven months passed by they will
make war:
The two Vestals will rebel in opposition, Victor the younger in the land of Brittany.
Land of Brittany could be a colony of Britain in the future. The war could be
a spiritual war and could begin with the Rapture!
and this one...says it all, its about Post Rapture and judment
Quote
82
Through the deserts of the free and wild place,
The nephew of the great Pontiff will come to wander: Felled by seven with a heavy club, By those who afterwards will occupy the Chalice.
"By those who afterwards will occupy the Chalice" When the elect and faithful
come back
and
Quote
99
Through the power of three temporal kings, the sacred seat will be put in another place,
where the substance of the body and the spirit will be restored and received as the true seat
The temple of Heaven coming down, that will be the true seat!
Perhaps this could be about Victor the Young or Younger achieves the ultimate
victory and is quite happy with the title Victor!!!!
Quote
Chief of the world will the great Chyren be,
World ruler, the victor. Plus Ultra behind, loved, feared,
dreaded: (According to mythology the pillars bore the warning Nec Plus
Ultra) Perhaps in metaphor going beyond the Pillars of Hercules to find
truth with respect to the search and proclamations in the journey to the
submerged ancient first places. Also the demonstration of Plus Ultra behind
this journey is "loved, feared, dreaded" His fame and praise will go beyond the
heavens, It could be that if this project is 100% successful as I
see it in the Plus Ultra, going beyond the pillars. This huge project will
be recognized throughout the "Kingdom of Heaven" even to Paradise. Also the
Holy world ruler seems like Melchizedek. And with the sole title of Victor will he be
quite satisfied. It appears that great accomplishment is adorned
with the title Victor Sounds like this world ruler has made a great victory
and is recognized in Heaven. It sounds like this world ruler is very happy
with the title. I wonder if that "The Young/er.
Quote
PLUS ULTRA Wikipedia
Nec Plus Ultra
Earl Rosenthal, author of The Palace of Charles V in Granada (1985), has
researched the origin of the of the motto. It is
closely associated with the Pillars of Hercules, which according to
Roman mythology were built by Hercules, near the
Straits of Gibraltar, marking the edge of the then known world.
According to mythology the pillars bore the warning Nec Plus Ultra (also Non
Plus Ultra,"nothing further beyond"), serving as a warning to sailors and
navigators to go no further.
Its interesting that Plus Ultra is related in the Straits of Gibraltar.
Interesting that the Gibraltar dam is a main focus in the Discovery of
Atlantis project and related to the destruction of 1stEden as well.
Here is some more thoughts on Nostradamus in relation to the reality of the
ancient palaces.
In the following is research from other researchers regarding "Chyren" (do a
page search to get to the spot).
However the above could very well be a reflection of Melchizedek in the new
Kingdom.
In the following sounds like a very large humbling and to me could be a
reflection of the end time outcome after rapture. Even this research and
proposal vexes the rebels.
Quote
"The sacred pomp will come to lower its wings, Through the coming of the great legislator:
He will raise the humble, he will vex the rebels,
He will be born on earth none his emulator." (C.5:79)
In the following in my mind is all about the Judgment process of the Ancient
of Days. a time period after rapture.
Quote
"The present times with the past, The
present reality and things of the past is adjudged by the Ancients of Days. Will be judgedby the great Jovialist: The world too late will be tired of him, Its too late for the world
to click on a current religions are tired and cant deal with this event??
perhaps? And disloyal through the clergy jurist." (C.10:73)
Speaks for it self disloyalty in the clergy, it
appears there is a falling away from traditional religion by there own
clergymen.
In the following I find an interesting one. Mind you I am interpreting these
in relation to the journey to the ancient paces.
Quote
"Comets without tails, move silently
Like an event or something unusual in the heavens Panic abounds. An offering rejected, a tailed
comet Panic at first seems like a proposal is made, a deal but is
rejected. I can see that happening in the post rapture/prejudgment
scenario. Also the comet seems to change its characteristics. Glides among the bees, dies, and heads of state This Im not sure?? Nonplused.
Signatures in the sand ignored by all." Sounds like a proposal is
ignored based on fluid foundations like sand and governments conspire.
Nonplused at the failure
Well it is speculation see what turns up next.
The following appears to have characteristics of the judgment period.
Quote:
"A salver flies, comes to rest in the
New City(A salver is a flat tray of silver, perhaps a UFO looking
thing.) Hate flourishes for the entity within. Battle lines Battle
lines are drawn, Government response Drawn. Fears of disease mask truth while three There is
great fear and trepidation, fear of chemical warfare. Leaders in secret, unite against a false threat. sound's
like there is rejection to the offer and the leaders hatch a plan against a
non threatening gesture by the representatives. Typical mankind government!
No faith! The bees sting amid thunderclaps and lightning bolts, Looks
like there is a response and some confrontation. Confusion. Fear. Awe. The fish trembles, Great concern and
confusion in Battle. Governments are strangely silent while the heavens
Flash ominous messages to the populace. East and West darken.
Physical planetary government is physically overcome and does not know what
do or what to say. Revolution without bloodshed, without strife Conflict
finishes, Great change occurs without war without any conflict. Men in unhappy confusion strive for perfections Man great
changes his ways and strives for personal perfection, its truly a spiritual
experience. Beyond their ken. Failure, then elation. Earth's forces give way to a new power above the clouds.
Earth forces gives way to the "Kingdom of Heaven" and the will of The Father
in Paradise.
Twenty plus two times six will see the lore of the heavens
132?? or 2012 Visit the planet in great elation. Disease, pestilence, Famine dies. Rome rejoices for souls saved. The Learned The
Church is happy Smile in awe. Astrology confirmed. For science, a new beginning."
Exactly right! Everyone is happy and just smiles in awe, In addition, it
seems to happen where Science harmonized with Religion makes the big
discoveries of the ancient places, the first places. Everything forms a
conjunction.
Hey Look at this last line in the
following Quatrain, its reference of Babel to the Romans (perhaps Church)
Quote:
"One whom the gods of infernal Hannibal ( not
sure, sounds like the Gods and a conqueror. Will bear to be reborn, terror of humans Does this mean
rebirth of the past becomes a perplexing experience if you ignorant. Never more of horror nor worse days Seems like change for
the better In the past than will come by
Babel to Romans."
Does that mean to say that the past will come through Babel, directly
relating the Babel in the journey to the ancient places.
"The trembling of land at Mortara
Cassiterides St. George half sunk to the
bottom
Drowsy peace the war
will awaken
In the
temple at Easter abysses ripped open."
"The aimless army of
Europe will depart
Collecting itself
near the submerged isle:
The weak fleet
will bend the phalanx
At the navel of
the world a greater voice substituted."
There you have it Babel directly mentioned the past facing us.
Sevens
Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:03 am
Ive been thinking about this parable in the past
few days.
I thought it was completely appropriate piece from the UB considering the
times we are in. I really sense there is a marriage feast about to happen. I'm
so sure this marriage feast is very soon, I also sense we will be caught for
that marriage feast where we can be with our friend Jesus in a really heavenly
environment. All very interesting.
Quote:
5. PARABLE OF THE MARRIAGE FEAST
After the scribes and rulers had withdrawn, Jesus addressed himself
again to the assembled crowd and spoke the parable of the wedding feast. He
said:
"The kingdom of heaven may be likened to a
certain king who made a marriage feast for his son and dispatched messengers
to call those who had previously been invited to the feast to come, saying,
`Everything is ready for the marriage supper at
the king's palace.' Now, many of those who
had once promised to attend, at this time refused to come. When the
king heard of these rejections of his invitation, he sent other servants and
messengers, saying: `Tell all those who were bidden, to come, for, behold,
my dinner is ready. My oxen and my fatlings Page 1895 are killed, and all is
in readiness for the celebration of the forthcoming marriage of my son.'
But again did the thoughtless make light of this
call of their king, and they went their ways, one to the farm, another to
the pottery, and others to their merchandise. Still others were not
content thus to slight the king's call, but in open rebellion they laid
hands on the king's messengers and shamefully mistreated them,
even killing some of them. And when the
king perceived that his chosen guests, even those who had accepted his
preliminary invitation and had promised to attend the wedding feast,
had finally rejected his call and in rebellion had
assaulted and slain his chosen messengers, he was exceedingly wroth.And then this insulted king ordered out his
armies and the armies of his allies and instructed them to destroy these
rebellious murderers and to burn down their city.
"And when he had punished those who spurned his
invitation, he appointed yet another day for the wedding feast and said to
his messengers:`They who were first bidden
to the wedding were not worthy; so go now into the parting of the
ways and into the highways and even beyond the borders of the city, and as
many as you shall find, bid even these strangers to come in and attend this
wedding feast.' And then these servants went out
into the highways and the out-of-the-way places, and they gathered together
as many as they found, good and bad, rich and poor, so that at last the
wedding chamber was filled with willing guests. When all was ready,
the king came in to view his guests, and much to his surprise he saw there a
man without a wedding garment. The king, since he had freely provided
wedding garments for all his guests, addressing this man, said:
`Friend, how is it that you come into my guest
chamber on this occasion without a wedding garment?' And this
unprepared man was speechless. Then said the king to his servants: `Cast
out this thoughtless guest from my house to share the lot of all the others
who have spurned my hospitality and rejected my call.I will have none here except those who delight to
accept my invitation, and who do me the honor to wear those guest garments
so freely provided for all.'"
After speaking this parable, Jesus was about to dismiss the multitude when a
sympathetic believer, making his way through the crowds toward him, asked:
"But, Master, how shall we know about these
things? how shall we be ready for the king's invitation? what sign will you
give us whereby we shall know that you are the Son of God?" And when the
Master heard this, he said, "Only one sign
shall be given you." And then, pointing to his own body, he
continued, "Destroy this temple, and in three days
I will raise it up." But they did not understand him, and as they
dispersed, they talked among themselves, saying, "Almost fifty years has
this temple been in building, and yet he says he will destroy it and raise
it up in three days." Even his own apostles did
not comprehend the significance of this utterance, but subsequently, after
his resurrection, they recalled what he had said.
There is many warnings in this one and I would really study this. This is like
a basis for Rapture to be with Jesus at the wedding feast with his people
only. Faith people!
This is very exciting how this parable has been in mind for the last 2 days
and reading through it completely impresses me.
I for one would like to hand out invites to the wedding of Jesus and his
people. Open to all no matter what or where! No matter who.
Any takers before the boat leaves!
Lets go to see our friend we have in Jesus.
Anyway I believe this is a very real thing and keep in mind and be prepared at
any time any place, it will just happen.
Thinking on the Logistics I would say that the Seventh Angel will announce the
completion of the Seventh mystery will the recording is still in process.
Therefore it could happen at anytime as I feel I have discovered the main bulk
and all the knowledge form all over the place is forming a oneness. I feel the
Seventh Angel will declare the earth belongs to Jesus and then Rapture occurs
to be with Jesus for all his people of faith, a mustard seed is fine.
Thats when we vanish and nothing else happens for a period of time. The world
will be in shock and everyone will experience a general quickening to the
matter before them. Then perhaps the prophecies will begin...maybe in the way
as described or perhaps with some slight variation.
But there will always be that unknown in the back of everyones mind in this
period, all I say is have faith in the demonstration and where it leads to. In
the, in between time, most people will become more spiritual and will look for
the knowledge of what occurred. Well if this occurs, I'm glad I was helpful in
someway to help people on the Path as mankind goes through the Abyss to the
judgment of the last rebel and the return of us all.
All the while we will be in the Kingdom of Heaven having real rest and
revitalization in a new body that would respond to the tree of life of
immortality. In this time I believe that Jesus will be planning for the new
planet where we will be all involved and participate in building a new world.
Everyone will have there role in the new world with Jesus and Melchizedek but
I think Jesus eventually will do other things in his universe as this planet
stabilizes. But his Holy Spirit will always be with us which is Jesus thinking
on the trinity level.
Sevens
posted
08-10-2007 03:52 AM
Absolutely Tom and I think the ancient places
of former things of old are directly related to these places as found in
Isaiah and other books that parallel.. Mind I have discovered 3 areas that
fits the UB description in addition to all the knowledge and clues about this
time.
In order for Christians to understand the logistics and the main point they
will have to extend themselves and read other books besides the Bible.
They maybe forced to do this just by a mass disappearance of the Elect and
faith followers.
This would be the confirmation and the great sign in my view that this
research actually leads to somewhere solid and measurable in both religion and
science.
The Universe is not interested in the current political leaders that lie and
spin and actually strengthen the bondage mankind is under. Mainly through life
time debt and fear. Paradise rejects this unequivocally
If rapture happens in this timeline there will be massive stock market crash,
there already seems to be signs that mortgage market is unsustainable. The
reason for the breakdown in the mortgage market is because everyone is living
of the backs of others, mainly the financial institutions.
Who just couldn't damn only if there is money in it, regardless of the
consequences to mankind.
They will be routed out of there positions and more than likely Banks will be
non profit organization dealing with money in the future.
Understanding that usury is completely illegal in the Universe of the "kingdom
of Heaven" and thats part of the reason Paradise is here to deal with this
problem including dealing with the past mistakes of the Sons of God, it all
comes back to first places like Babel/Dilmun.
Banks in the future will never be a money making venture again. It will all
belong to the people because it is something that is common to all man and
should never be for profit, like pharmaceutical companies , same thing but
different day.
When the Bible talks about the captives being set free, in one aspect this
relates to the banks ..All debt will be forgiven by the "Kingdom of Heaven"
because lifetime debt for profit is completely and utterly illegal in the
universe courts.
Everyone will be corrected and given something to think about in this
demonstration by the "Kingdom of Heaven"
regards
Sevens
Posted:
Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:16 am Post subject:
Hey no worries Iris, I
enjoyed that .
However I feel it is related to the submerged place considering the 4 first
places were two temples of the Father, 1stEden and Dalamatia with artifacts
(Contents, Utensils, Gold) and the lesser two gardens are the 2 Nodite cities
Artifacts (Contents, Silver, utensils) the 7 commands in two cities? Then the
reference to the 1st Garden of Eden and his people seeing his face in majesty
which to me is a description of a rapture or caught up in heaven, the lect and
is connected to 1st Eden where the journey began, really speaking 1Eden led me
to the Persian Gulf earlier Civilizations of the Gods and man. In metaphor and
in actual virtual reality it could very well be related to seeing Jesus or Isa
in the Garden of Eden related to object of the search but in Metaphor relates
to the time of rapture of the Elect and faithful in Heaven post rapture/pre
judgment or transition where we all see the face of our friend Isa or Jesus in
majesty and it related by extension of the experience to all the ancient
places.
That to me that was the main point and also many of the other things related,
Its about being in Heaven not on this planet in this particular case, I think.
Anyway that's what I saw in this, relating to the personal journey to the
ancient places, the first places.
Like for example in this Nostradamus quatrain.
Quote:
"One whom the gods of infernal Hannibal
( not sure, sounds like the Gods and a conquerer. Will bear to be reborn, terror of humans
Does this mean rebirth of the past becomes a perplexing experience if your
ignorant to matter. Never more of horror nor worse days
Seems like change for the better In the past
than will come byBabelto
Romans." Does that mean to say that the past will come
through Babel to perhaps the Church in Rome, directly relating submerged
Babel in the journey to the ancient places.
The truth will arise from Babel, the source of the problems of the planet and
it will be dealt with in Babel/Dilmun and the word will spread to Rome, the
Church.
Plus Ultra means there is something beyond the pillars like is journey to the
ancient places a real Plus Ultra experience.
Sevens
Posted:
Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:44 am Post subject:
Gosh Iris!
I know exactly what your talking about.
I don't have to be reminded its a individual journey and relationship with the
Father in Heaven who resides within you through the thought adjuster. Through
the personal experience.
But if course most people don't even think this way and therefore other
measures may come to pass that will make man think about his destiny with the
Father within and without.
Also most people these days need some viable and measurable evidence directly
and indirectly where they read and see. I think that is quite fair thing and
in this journey it would be something that would build faith. I feel this
could be a good thing and its guided by the great Urantia Book thank to the
petitions of the midwayers, that the Father provided a great Book. Thats
exactly what is the great true book written in the hands of angels.
That essentially provided the path for the greatest in earth for the benefit
of all mankind if wishes to get on board. As far as Im concerned these first
are the events that Jesus referred to in many of the books.
Anyway here is a thread where you can read the latest thread on what I think
in the journey to the ancient first places that began with the journey to 1st
Garden which began for me along time ago, 14 years from first desire within
myself to discover the places. Thats where Robert Sarmast was very helpful in
the journey to the first places as he went out there in faith and confirmed
the wall of the 1st Garden spoken about in the Urantia Book. Whilst my
individual journey has been somewhat different the gravity of it has just been
immense and it does involve Paradise and direction.
Why I feel this way is because I can see reflections in all the scriptures
inside and outside the bible including the Quran, the UB and all the books I
can get my hands on. There is a definite thread of mystery and intrigue to the
ancient places that does tell a foreword story in destiny.
Here is a link on my latest focalisation using pieces here and there making
the connections with my soul as the guide.
End times or transition!! Enters a new phase
http://atlantisonline.smfforfree2.com/index.php/topic,2615.0.html
you might have to join up but its in the Urantia Book thread then under the
thread title. "End times or transition!! Enters a new phase" Its the only
place where I don't get deleted.
If you want to look into it further here is a link with all my little
discoveries since November 2003 on the day Discovery of Atlantis hit the news.
It was a very interesting period.
In the website are personal thoughts of the scriptures which I believe has
some connection where I am focalised on the ancient places and the reflections
that it presents to me at the time.
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/
Note this is an on the run and beforehand
journey of having with unusual time space discoveries and experiences in a
read about them later on in the future. Like the 40 day test I proclaimed in
July 4th 2006 only to read about it
and its conclusion only just recently. It is a 40 day period that was on the
earth and it extended itself to 439 days
which is Sept 18th 07.
Being alerted to the time frame of that particular personal proclamation to
the Ancients of Days made in a spontaneous way on July 4th 06, of course
alerted me to that fact when reading about it recently. Also consider the many
metaphors of forty days in the Bible. Like 40 days in the wilderness, for
Jesus, 40 years, Thats why I actually chose a 40 day test as I used the 40
days as the time period for the test, The Jesus Test or the Israelite test.
And where did take the Israelites to, the Promised land, in this case the
promise land of the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven.
There are many other references to the this test like in the Dead Sea Scrolls
and other areas of the Quran. The you start reading about rapture events and
metaphors of that all over the place still within the time being led in the
scriptures without pride or prejudice. Thats the key to last Seventh Mystery.
Just the fact I those this name because of the website name and then to find
it all over, all of the books of religion even in Nostradamus, speaking of
which uses a surname that I'm familiar with.
All I try to do is embrace the commonalities of all religious culture
focalised on the first places which leads to a unity in spirit and in simple
truth which is the truth of Jesus our lord and personal friend though the
thought adjuster who is the Father not the mention the function of the Holy
Spirit. Its the ultimate all in one, in one that finds unity similar to the
unity I find in the journey to the ancient places in discovery in the areas
that they are supposed to be.
I rejoice in the Lord and to the Most High to bring this about for mankind.
all the best
sevens
Last edited by sevens on Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:15 am; edited 1 time in total
Sorry I forgot to say that in regards to Son of
Man Enoch and Jesus, it is in the Urantia Book which I subscribe to. Whether
you want to accept that or not is up to you.
But I accept it the Urantia Book as the new Book from Paradise for the new
Epoch we are about to enter in.
I love this excerpt out of Enoch
Quote:
1Enoch 46:2
He answered and said to me: This is the Son of man, to whom
righteousness belongs; with whom righteousness has dwelt; and who will reveal all
the treasures of that which is concealed;
for the
Lord of spirits has chosen him; and his portion has surpassed all
before the Lord of spirits in everlasting uprightness.
and
Quote:
1Enoch 58 5 And after this it shall
be said to the holy in heaven That they should seek out the secrets of
righteousness, the heritage of faith:
For it has become bright as the sun upon earth,
And the darkness is past.
and
Quote:
15 And he said unto me: He proclaims unto thee peace in the name of the
world to come;
For from hence has proceeded peace since the
creation of the world,
And so shall it be unto thee for ever and for ever and ever.
Jesus as he studied Enoch could see himself in the scriptures, that why he
used the Son of Man according to the UB. If you don't like it. I would suggest
petition your objection to the Ancient of Days.
sevens
Hi Iris and Fatboy 2
Absolutely, to both of your posts, they where nice to read and I really
appreciated your thoughts. I loved the fragment out of Rodan. How true is
that.
I'm inspired that I would like to study Rodan more and find more of his truth
in life. Beautiful words of wisdom.
Thanks for your words I feel blessed.
sevens
For Sure Geo
I agree with you, it makes sense to me what your saying and I can see the same
logic .
It funny I was watching the News and this financial commentator was speaking and
the condition of the Stock Market. I could see real perplexity in his face about
the situation, something like I haven't seen before quite in that way. The
problem is the Stock Market is underpinned by fear and uncertainty with the hope
prosperity and yet based on faith in a way. Faith in the rise of prosperity
through a world wide system. Anything that resembles change would bring
perplexity into the market also the prices on things is outrages like housing
and lifetime debt for the majority and that would play a factor, the
unaffordability of things for most.
Like rapture that would bring about an unconditional change to the stock market.
Sometimes I wonder whether this conversation does has an effect in the markets,
through an impending change beyond mans control.
All I know that the Union will stand and it will stand tall, brothers of the
Union. I believe the forefathers that layed the platform of the Union did have
the Father in mind with the ultimate conclusion of "The Kingdom of Heaven: on
earth in mind. They where people who did love the Father in there own personal
way and really wanted to do the will of the Father in creating the Union of the
USA. The Union was viechle that kept man together in crisis. In the
greater sense, on the spiritual level we will all stand tall in the union of the
Fatherhood of the Father and brotherhood of mankind.
We will all stand tall, the elect in the "Kingdom of Heaven" everyone here is
this forum. Because we had faith and we continued to be vigilant and shared our
thoughts and personal discoveries with fellow mankind and with Jesus our brother
and friend and with the Universe.
Well I praise the Lord that we are in his Ark of the Testament of Rapture even
in the beforehand. I also believe the Seventh mystery has power and might and
the word of the Lord is true and ultimately is the last word and that would
ripple through the fabric of mans thoughts including his institutions. We are
all like Noah's family, building the Ark of truth that will one day set sail in
the infinite sea of peace.
Well Hallelujah for that! for that great gift as given by Jesus our friend and
brother. A great friend we have in Jesus our true Saviour.
Sevens
Also consider
According to my UB research Jesus birthday is on the 21 August 21st 07, in
actual fact this year 07 is actually 00 we are in 2000 AD (Jesus Date UB). Well
I think that is a special year and like in the parables of the Feast, I think
would be a good time to have a feast with the bridegroom the elect and faithful
ones. Jesus was human and birthdays was special to him on earth with his family.
I believe that day his birthday on earth in this turn of the millennium would be
very symbolic and would make all logic and sense.
That could be a preferred date but AAh! you know, its all speculation at the
same time but I feel its worth considering! It could be a normal as the same
time too.
But then again the scriptures and the greater scriptures does say that will come
and will not tarry. So again we have that great chasm of perplexity but then
again I suppose we have to let that go and have faith in each day.
Sevens
UFO Over O’Hare Airport: New Report Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:48 am
Quote:
UFO Over O’Hare Airport: New Report
Author Leonard David
The National Aviation Reporting Center on Anomalous Phenomena (NARCAP),
based in Vallejo, California, has investigated that November 7 incident
allegedly involving an unidentified aerial object that violated controlled
airspace at Chicago’s O’Hare International Airport.
As viewed by airline and airport employees at O’Hare, the object was round
and revolving, gray in color and metallic. It hovered at an altitude less
than 1,900 feet above ground level.
“The identity of the UAP [unidentified aerial phenomenon] remains unknown,”
notes the over 100 page NARCAP report.
The group has called for an official government inquiry into the matter,
noting that their analysis suggests that a “significant air safety problem
existed at O’Hare International Airport” given the UAP incident. The NARCAP
assessment of the sighting states further inquiry should be carried out “to
evaluate whether or not current sensing technologies are adequate to insure
against a future incident such as this.”
The report in its entirety can be viewed at
www.NARCAP.org
Meanwhile, the Chicago airport sighting — and a host of other UFO-related
insights — are to take center stage at the Mutual UFO Network’s (MUFON) 38th
International UFO Symposium, to be held August 10-12 in Denver, Colorado.
Drop by the event in the travel convenience of choice, be it car, airplane,
or UFO - but first teleport yourself via Internet to the MUFON site at:
http://mufon.com/symposia.htm
sevens
Posted:
Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject: Stone Age
Settlement Found Under English Channel
Heather Whipps
Special to LiveScience
LiveScience.com Fri Aug 10, 10:05 AM ET
Erosion on the floor of the English Channel is revealing the remains of a
busy Stone Age settlement, from a time when Europe and Britain were still
linked by land, a team of archaeologists says.
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The site, just off the Isle of Wight, dates back 8,000 years, not long
before melting glaciers filled in the Channel and likely drove the
settlement's last occupants north to higher ground.
"This is the only site of its kind in the United Kingdom," said Garry Momber,
director of the Hampshire and Wight Trust for Maritime Archaeology, which
led the recent excavations. "It is important because this is the period when
modern people were blossoming, just coming out of the end of the Ice Age,
living more like we do today in the valleys and lowlands."
End of Ice Age caused channel flood
Lobsters mucking around the seabed at the site about 10 years ago revealed a
cache of Mesolithic flints, prompting further excavations that uncovered two
hearths (ancient ovens) dangling precariously from the edge of an underwater
cliff.
Burnt wood fragments gouged with cut marks and a layer of wood chippings
were found lying under 35 feet of water during the latest dig. Divers
brought the material to the surface still embedded in slabs of the sea floor
that were carried up in specially-designed boxes, which were then pieced
back together and examined and dated in the lab.
"We now have unequivocal evidence of human activity at the site," Momber
told LiveScience. "There were people here actively making stuff and being
quite industrious."
At 8,000-years-old, the settlement is the only underwater Mesolithic site in
Britain, though it is probably part of a much larger area of occupation yet
to be uncovered, Momber said.
As the climate began to warm up near the end of the Ice Age about 10,000
years ago, people were moving into Northern Europe and settling down in the
many river valleys left behind by melting glaciers, Momber explained. Many
of the valleys, such as the ones now beneath the English Channel, were
eventually inundated completely when temperatures returned to normal.
"A good chunk of the material left behind from this cultural period is
eventually going to be found underwater," Momber said.
Underwater sites better preserved
Despite the logistical problems of underwater archaeology, the Isle of Wight
site and others like it are usually better preserved than their counterparts
on land, Momber said.
When the floodwater rose slowly in the English Channel, it deposited layers
of silt atop the settlement, encasing it in an oxygen-free environment that
preserves even organic materials such as wood and food.
"With underwater sites, all the trappings of a society are going to remain,
not just the stone," Momber said. The trade-off is an environment that can
carry away the precious remains at any time—a real concern at the Isle of
Wight settlement.
"The erosion of this site would be a loss of information to humanity, not
just the washing away of a bit of material," he said. "There is the
potential to find so much more there; there is so much to learn."
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sevens
Posted:
Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:16 pm
Hi Iris
Sounds pretty good to me, what would be good is a unity of all things that which
(the every day bloke on the streets) man can comprehend that will lead them to
the Father. I feel even if the unifying force of the Father which can embraces
art and science without exclusivity, pride and prejudice would definitely have
positive effects in leading man by faith to the Father in "The Kingdom of
Heaven"
I feel that Rodan was right and that was to "seek first the realities of heaven"
which is defiantly part of the path that reaches unification, a oneness on all
levels of every part of truth and that sets the captives of fear.... free,
through truth and enlightenment through discoveries, I feel that is essential
for man to overcome and to have certainty in ways that includes discovery, even
of the first places. That would be an ultimate revelation for man to be shared
with all brothers and sisters with no pride or prejudice only invitation to
enjoin and expand in support of the fathers truth.
I also feel that "in all of man's efforts to stabilize society and facilitate
the solution of its material problems." is so true. Society has to reduce the
fear level through certainty and with truth, which can be demonstrated for the
purpose of the Father. This may have been foreseen and documented by precious
books and is also part of the great mystery. I believe that such a demonstration
of the Father through the enlargement of religion gives man a perfect
opportunity for his ultimate destiny.
A more enhanced and fear reduced society with less fear through a fair and high
level demonstration would bring about more brotherhood and mutual prosperity for
all which would fix all our problems.
I feel, we are at a time where all this possible and can be an actuality of the
potential of the highest degree.
On another note, if the prophecies actualizes but with variation, are correct we
could witness Jesus coming again which maybe first example of Infinite and
finite living in the Ultimate situation.
The future Epoch could be the first example of Ultimacy that will be the basis
of the extending universes of the ultimate beyond the finite time/space reality.
It would be like finite and eternity living side by side completely conscious of
each other. The Absolute and the Ultimacy living side by side. This planet could
be the first example through the improved ascension process that Jesus our
friend and brother brought to this planet.
Quite possible thought and potential but its a matter actualizing the greatest
potential and that is my aim in this journey. To actualize the reality directly
to Paradise in my personal journey to the ancient places.
Plus its great fun and affords great journey.
Personally, I just cant help proclaim this beautiful experience because I'm just
inspired in the Father and his works which really includes the great Urantia
Book.
Quote:
One basic conception of the
absolute level involves a postulate of three phases:
1. The Original. The unqualified
concept of the First Source and Center, that source manifestation of the
I AM from which all reality takes origin.
2. The Actual. The union of the
three Absolutes of actuality, the Second, Third, and Paradise Sources and
Centers. This triodity of the Eternal Son,
the Infinite Spirit, and the Paradise Isle constitutes the actual
revelation of the originality of the First Source and Center.
3. The Potential. The union of the
three Absolutes of potentiality, the Deity, Unqualified, and Universal
Absolutes. This triodity of existential
potentiality constitutes the potential revelation of the originality of the
First Source and Center.
The interassociation of the Original, the Actual, and the Potential yields
the tensions within infinity which result in the possibility for all
universe growth; and growth is the nature
of the Sevenfold, the Supreme, and the Ultimate.
In the association of the Deity, Universal, and Unqualified Absolutes,
potentiality is absolute while actuality is emergent; in the association of
the Second, Third, and Paradise Sources and Centers, actuality is absolute
while potentiality is emergent; in
the originality of the First Source
and Center, we cannot say that either actuality or potentiality is either
existent or emergent--the
Father is.
and this one I just found..fantastic
Quote:
While the
Seven Master Spirits are hardly
expressive of threefold Deity, they are the
eternal portrayal of sevenfold Deity,
the active and associative functions of the three ever-existent persons of
Deity. By and in and through these
Seven Spirits, the Universal Father, the Eternal
Son, or the Infinite Spirit, or any dual association, is able to
function as such. When the Father, the Son, and
the Spirit act together, they can and do function through Master
Spirit Number Seven, but not as the
Trinity. The Master Spirits singly and
collectively represent any and all possible Deity functions, single
and several, but not collective, not the Trinity.
Master Spirit Number
Seven is personally nonfunctional
with regard to the Paradise Trinity, and that is just why he can
function personally for
the Supreme Being.
I'm just thinking the Sevenfold scheme and the Supreme Being breaking new ground
into the Ultimacy, the first time ever to happen through a rebellion torn and
hardened planet in the finite. Where the infinite and finite co join in ultimacy!
The Ultimate revelation!
Could this be the New Heaven and Earth!
continuing
Quote:
But when
the Seven Master Spirits vacate
their individual seats of personal power and superuniverse authority and
assemble about the Conjoint Actor in the
triune presence of Paradise Deity then and there are they collectively
representative of the functional power, wisdom, and authority of undivided
Deity--the Trinity--to and in the evolving universes., Such a
Paradise union of the primal
sevenfold expression of Deity does
actually embrace, literally encompass, all
of every attribute and attitude of the three eternal Deities in
Supremacy and in Ultimacy.
To all practical intents and purposes
the Seven Master Spirits do, then and
there, encompass the functional domain of
the Supreme-Ultimate to and in the master
universe.
As far as we can discern, these
Seven Spirits are associated with
the divine activities of the three eternal
persons of Deity; we detect no evidence of direct association with
the functioning presences of the three eternal phases of the Absolute.
When associated,
the Master Spirits represent the Paradise
Deities in what may be roughly conceived as the
finite domain of action. It might
embrace much that is ultimate but not
absolute.
just brilliant. The Supreme being in the world stage of action.
Remember Enoch and the Sevenfold instruction and a new heaven and new earth, the
ultimate. finite and infinite in Union.!
Quote:
Quote: Excerpts from the book
of Enoch 300 B.C. A mystery that is unfolding in the current planetary
timeline.
1 Enoch 104:10 Another mystery also I point
out. To the righteous and the wise shall be given
books of joy, of integrity, and of great wisdom. To them
shall books be given, in which they shall
believe;
1 Enoch l04:ll And in which they shall rejoice. And all the righteous shall
be rewarded, who from these shall acquire the knowledge of every upright
path.
1 Enoch 92:l2 Afterwards, in the seventh week
a perverse generation shall arise; abundant shall be its deeds, and
all its deeds perverse. During its completion,the righteous shall be selected from the plant of
everlasting righteousness; and to them shall be given
the sevenfold doctrine respecting every
part of his whole creation,
1 Enoch 92:17 The former heaven shall depart and
pass away; a new heaven shall appear; and
all the celestial powers shine with
sevenfold splendor for ever. Afterwards likewise shall there be many
weeks, which shall externally exist in goodness and in righteousness.
1Enoch 1:8 Then shall all belong to God; be happy and blessed; and the
splendor of the Godhead shall illuminate them.
Ultimate/Finite/Evolution
but not absolute.
sevens
No worries,
Thats OK we all have our own views.
I just believe there is something really special about the book and I'm really
inspired and with all the books of religion. They are just great from every
culture.
As to the
chances of mortal survival, let it be made forever clear:All souls of every possible phase of mortal
existencewill surviveprovided they manifest willingness to co-operate
with their indwelling Adjusters and exhibit a desire to find God and to
attain divine perfection, even though these desires be but thefirst faint flickers of the
primitive comprehension of that
"true light which lights every man who comes
into the world."
Quote:
6. THE FAITH SONS OF GOD
The mortal races stand as the representatives of the lowest order of
intelligent and personal creation. You mortals are divinely beloved, and
every one of you may choose to accept the certain destiny of a glorious
experience, but you are not yet by nature of the divine order; you are
wholly mortal. You will be reckoned as ascending
sonsthe instant fusion takes place,
but the status of the mortals of time and space is that of faith sons
prior to the event of the final
Page 448 amalgamation of the surviving mortal soul with some type of
eternal and immortal spirit.
It is a solemn and supernal fact that such lowly
and material creatures as Urantia human beings are the sons of God, faith
children of the Highest."Behold,
what manner of love the Father has bestowed upon us that we should be
called the sons of God." "As many as received him, to them gave he the
power to recognize that they are the sons of God." While "it does not yet
appear what you shall be," even now "you are the faith sons of God"; "for
you have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you have
received the spirit of sonship, whereby you cry, `our Father.'" Spoke the
prophet of old in the name of the eternal God: "Even to them will I give
in my house a place and a name better than sons; I will give them an
everlasting name, one that shall not be cut off." "And because you are
sons, God has sent forth the spirit of his Son into your hearts."
All evolutionary worlds of mortal habitation harbor these faith sons of
God, sons of grace and mercy, mortal beings belonging to the divine family
and accordingly called the sons of God. Urantia
mortals are entitled to regard themselves as being the sons of God
because:
1. You are sons of spiritual promise,
faith sons; you have accepted the status of sonship. You believe in the
reality of your sonship, and thus does your sonship with God become
eternally real.
2. A Creator Son of God became one of you; he is your elder brother in
fact; and if in spirit you become truly related brothers of Christ, the
victorious
Michael, then in spirit must you also be sons of that Father
which you have in common--even the Universal Father of all.
3. You are sons because the spirit of a Son has been poured out upon
you, has been freely and certainly bestowed upon all Urantia races. This
spirit ever draws you toward the divine Son, who is its source, and
toward the Paradise Father, who is the source of that divine Son.
4. Of his divine free-willness, the Universal Father has given you your
creature personalities. You have been endowed with a measure of that
divine spontaneity of freewill action which God shares with all who may
become his sons.
5. There dwells within you a fragment of the Universal Father, and you
are thus directly related to the divine Father of all the Sons of God
One box had an inscription Joshua Ben Joseph the exact name of Jesus in
the Urantia Book.
more to add to the mystery, however I believe the UB account that his bones
where dissolved using a time/space technique.
However I felt the symbolism was fascinating and points to the Bible and its
secret relating to the pyramid which connects to the first submerged places.
Much on the movie I do discount and is speculation. I believe the UB account
more accurate. But that's my view.
Here is the circles in a triangle symbol the very same found on the plug of
the shaft in the great pyramid.
The temples in Dilmun where triangles with a hole in the middle of the roof of
the temple.
But the symbolism goes back even further to Dalamatia which was built on the
design of Jerusem, the Jerusem Triangles that are 100 of them divided in 10
triangles in each subdivision.
Dalamatia City was built this design, a smaller version of the Jerusem circles
The researchers saw the 3 mmm' but in actual fact
they were probably a depiction of the Dalamatia city triangles in metaphor to
the Jerusem triangles as spoken about by Jesus perhaps in a intimate way with
his followers.
and now look at the triangle and circle chevron
in the Van highland headquarters the home of the Adamson civilisation as
mentioned in the Urantia Book.
In the following is speculation
about this structure close to near 5 pointed pyramid.
Perhaps it has all to do with the
fifth planet that exploded due to its orbit close by another planet.
Perhaps the explosion of the the 5 planet affected Mars along time ago.
Perhaps this may symbolize this.
According to the book the Bethlehem
report, if the fifth planet was still orbiting according to his calculations
at the birth of Jesus in 7BC the fifth planet in accordance to alignment with
other planets at 12 noon would form a perfect 5 pointed star. Bob feels
Ceres might be the remains of this fifth planet.
Also there is a quatrain in Nostradamus of to
watch out the initials D & M III have to dig it out but I found the perhaps
connection interesting.
Here is Quatrain, I wonder if this
has anything to do with it, I just find it interesting how it related to the
naming of this pyramid which may symbolism to Jesus' birth confirming the
fifth plant Cres and it demise and signified in the missing planet which makes
up a 5 pointed star. Ceres may have been responsible for great damage on
Mars where perhaps the inhabitants lived above ground.
66 When the inscription D.M. is found
in the ancient cave, revealed by a lamp.
Law, the King and Prince Ulpian tried,
the Queen and Duke in the pavilion under cover.
In relation to the above quatrain I am
interested in the first 2 sentences
We obviously see the D.M. naming and of the
pyramid and we see the 5 edge missing which may have supposed to signify Ceres
which was destroyed. The exact birth of Jesus 12.00 noon at 21st August
07 was reflected in the 5 star alignment if Ceres was never destroyed.
However, bear in mind we are talking about 4.0
billion years ago very interesting.
Here is the Urantia Book reflection of the
Fifth planet.
line 141: Shooting stars occur in swarms because they are
the fragments of larger bodies of matter which have been disrupted by
tidal gravity exerted by near-by and still larger space bodies. Saturn's
rings are the fragments of a disrupted satellite. One of the moons of
Jupiter is now approaching dangerously near the critical zone of tidal
disruption and, within a few million years, will either be claimed by
the planet or will undergo gravity-tidal disruption.
The fifth planet of the solar system of long,
long ago traversed an irregular orbit, periodically making
closer and closer approach to Jupiter until it entered the critical zone
of gravity-tidal disruption, was swiftly fragmentized, and became the
present-day cluster of asteroids.
Law, the King and Prince Ulpian tried,
the Queen and Duke in the pavilion under cover.
The Last two sentences in
Metaphor seems to imply judgement where all the rulers run under cover of
there fortresses. Its seems the leaders are in hiding.
When the inscription D.M. is found
in the ancient cave, revealed by a lamp.
The lamp seems to imply
discovery of something significant that can be identified as D.M. like in
the naming of the 5 star pyramid. The ancient cave is all the places
and Jesus is revealing all even in Mars. Its incredible that it came
out of the tomb. Also consider the name of the first place Dalamatia
especially the first syllables Dala Matia DM
and Babel/Dilmun
again the circle in the triangle. These are the foundation of the
circular tower of Babel, the circle in a triangle.
The Baby Tomb in the tomb was Judah, Son of
Jeshua, Jesus was head of the family after Jesus' death and Mary was pregnant
with Amos from the Urantia Book. Unfortunately Amos died of flu at a
young age.. It could be that Amos was nicknamed Judah as Amos the
prophet and came from the Southern Hills of Judah. I wonder if Amos was
nicknamed Judah in a kingly form. Nicknames seem to be common in those days.
It possible! Interesting connection
In Jeremiah 13 is a connection to Amos
and Judah Jer
1:3-6 -- "In the thirteenth year of Josias,
son of Amos, king of Judah,
than the rest of
the verses
even until this day for three-and twenty
years, I have spoken persistently to you, rising early and speaking, and even
though the LORD sent to you his servants the prophets, sending them early;
(but you hearkened not, and listened not with your ears;) saying, 'Turn you
every one from his evil way, and from your evil practices, and you shall dwell
in the land which I gave to you and your fathers, of old and for ever. Go you
not after strange gods, to serve them, and to worship them, that you provoke
me not by the works of your hands, to do you hurt. But you hearkened not to
me.'
In the following is a complete description of
the Jerusem.
Quote
8.
THE JERUSEM TRIANGLES
The purely local and routine affairs of Jerusem
are directed from the one hundred triangles. These units are clustered
around the ten marvelous structures domiciling the local administration of
Jerusem. The triangles are surrounded by the panoramic depiction of
the system headquarters history. At present there is an erasure of over two
standard miles in this circular story. This sector will be restored upon the
readmission of Satania into the constellation family.
Every provision for this event has been made by
the decrees of Michael,
but the tribunal of the Ancients of Days has
not yet finished the adjudication of the affairs of the Lucifer rebellion.
Satania may not come back into the full fellowship of Norlatiadek so long as
it harbors archrebels, high created beings who have fallen from light into
darkness.
When Satania can return to the constellation fold, then will come up for
consideration the readmission of the isolated worlds into the system family
of inhabited planets, accompanied by their restoration to the spiritual
communion of the realms. But even if Urantia were restored to the system
circuits, you would still be embarrassed by the fact that your whole system
rests under a Norlatiadek quarantine partially segregating it from all other
systems.
But ere long, the adjudication of Lucifer and his associates will restore
the Satania system to the Norlatiadek constellation, and subsequently,
Urantia and the other isolated spheres will be
restored to the Satania circuits, and again will such worlds enjoy the
privileges of interplanetary communication and intersystem communion.
There will come an end for rebels and rebellion.
The Supreme Rulers are merciful and patient, but the law of deliberately
nourished evil is universally and unerringly executed. "The wages of sin is
death"--eternal obliteration.
The Jerusem Circles
Quote
5.
THE JERUSEM CIRCLES
The residential reservations assigned to the major groups of universe life
are designated the Jerusem circles. Those circle groups which find mention
in these narratives are the following:
1. The circles of the Sons of God.
2. The circles of the angels and higher spirits.
3. The circles of the Universe Aids, including the creature-trinitized sons
not assigned to the Trinity Teacher Sons.
4. The circles of the Master Physical Controllers.
5. The circles of the assigned ascending mortals, including the midway
creatures.
6. The circles of the courtesy colonies.
7. The circles of the Corps of the Finality.
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Each of these residential groupings consists of seven concentric and successively elevated circles. They are all
constructed along the same lines but are of different sizes and are
fashioned of differing materials. They are all
surrounded by far-reaching enclosures, which mount up to form extensive
promenades entirely encompassing every group of seven concentric circles.
Page 524 1. Circles of the Sons of God. Though the Sons of God possess a
social planet of their own, one of the transitional-culture worlds, they
also occupy these extensive domains on Jerusem. On their
transitional-culture world the ascending mortals freely mingle with all
orders of divine sonship. There you will personally know and love these
Sons, but their social life is largely confined to this special world and
its satellites. In the Jerusem circles, however, these various groups of
sonship may be observed at work. And since morontia vision is of enormous
range, you can walk about on the Sons' promenades and overlook the
intriguing activities of their numerous orders.
These seven circles of the Sons are concentric
and successively elevated so that each of the outer and larger circles
overlooks the inner and smaller ones, each being surrounded by a public
promenade wall. These walls are constructed of crystal gems of gleaming
brightness and are so elevated as to overlook all of their respective
residential circles. The many gates--from fifty to one hundred and fifty
thousand--which penetrate each of these
walls consist of single pearly crystals.
The first circle of the domain of the Sons is
occupied by the Magisterial Sons and their personal staffs. Here
center all of the plans and immediate activities
of the bestowal and adjudicational services of these juridical Sons. It is
also through this center that the Avonals of the system maintain contact
with the universe.
The second circle is occupied by the Trinity Teacher Sons. In this sacred
domain the Daynals and their associates carry forward the training of the
newly arrived primary Teacher Sons. And in all of this work they are ably
assisted by a division of certain co-ordinates of the Brilliant Evening
Stars. The creature-trinitized sons occupy a sector of the Daynal circle.
The Trinity Teacher Sons come the nearest to being
the personal representatives of the Universal Father in a local system;
they are at least Trinity-origin beings. This
second circle is a domain of extraordinary interest to all the peoples of
Jerusem.
The third circle is devoted to the Melchizedeks. Here the system chiefs
reside and supervise the almost endless activities of these versatile Sons.
From the first of the mansion worlds on through all the Jerusem career of
ascending mortals, the Melchizedeks are foster fathers and ever-present
advisers. It would not be amiss to say that they are the dominant influence
on Jerusem aside from the ever-present activities of the Material Sons and
Daughters.
The fourth circle is the home of the Vorondadeks and all other orders of the
visiting and observer Sons who are not otherwise provided for. The Most High
Constellation Fathers take up their abode in this circle when on visits of
inspection to the local system. Perfectors of Wisdom, Divine Counselors, and
Universal Censors all reside in this circle when on duty in the system.
The fifth circle is the abode of the Lanonandeks,
the sonship order of the System Sovereigns andthe Planetary Princes. The three groups
mingle as one when at home in this domain. The system reserves are held in
this circle, while the System Sovereign has a
temple situatedat the center of the
governing group of structures on administration hill.
The sixth circle is the tarrying place of the system Life Carriers. All
orders of these Sons are here assembled, and from here they go forth on
their world assignments.
The seventh circle is the rendezvous of the
ascending sons, those assigned mortals who may be temporarily functioning on
the system headquarters, together Page 525 with their seraphic consorts.
All ex-mortals above the status of Jerusem citizens and below that of
finaliters are reckoned as belonging to the group having its headquarters in
this circle.
These circular reservations of the Sons occupy an enormous area,
and until nineteen hundred years ago there
existed a great open space at its center.
This central region is now occupied by the
Michael
memorial, completed some five hundred years ago. Four hundred and
ninety-five years ago, when this temple was dedicated, Michael was present
in person,and all Jerusem heard the
touching story of the Master Son's bestowal on Urantia, the least of Satania.The Michael memorial is now the center of all activities embraced in
the modified management of the system
occasioned by Michael's bestowal, including most of the more recently
transplanted Salvington activities. The memorial
staff consists of over one million personalities.
2. The circles of the angels. Like the residential area of the Sons,
these circles of the angels consist of seven
concentric and successively elevated circles, each overlooking the inner
areas.
The first circle of the angels is occupied by the Higher Personalities of
the Infinite Spirit who may be stationed on the headquarters world--Solitary
Messengers and their associates. The second circle is dedicated to the
messenger hosts, Technical Advisers, companions, inspectors, and recorders
as they may chance to function on Jerusem from time to time. The third
circle is held by the ministering spirits of the higher orders and
groupings.
The fourth circle is held by the administrator seraphim, and the seraphim
serving in a local system like Satania are an "innumerable host of angels."
The fifth circle is occupied by the planetary seraphim, while the sixth is
the home of the transition ministers. The seventh
circle is the tarrying sphere of certain unrevealed orders of seraphim.
The recorders of all these groups of angels do not sojourn with their
fellows, being domiciled in the Jerusem temple of records. All records are
preserved in triplicate in this threefold hall of archives. On a system
headquarters, records are always preserved in material, in morontia, and in
spirit form.
These seven circles are surrounded by the
exhibit panorama of Jerusem, five thousand standard miles in circumference,
which is devoted to the presentation of the advancing status of the peopled
worlds of Satania and is constantly revised so as
to truly represent up-to-date conditions on the individual planets. I
doubt not that this vast promenade overlooking the circles of the angels
will be the first sight of Jerusem to claim your attention when you are
permitted extended leisure on your earlier visits.
These exhibits are in charge of the native life of Jerusem, but they are
assisted by the ascenders from the various Satania worlds who are tarrying
on Jerusem en route to Edentia. The portrayal of planetary conditions and
world progress is effected by many methods, some known to you,
but mostly by techniques unknown on Urantia.
These exhibits occupy the outer edge of this vast wall. The remainder of the
promenade is almost entirely open, being highly and magnificently
embellished.
3. The circles of the Universe Aids have the headquarters of the Evening
Stars situated in the enormous central space. Here is located the system
headquarters of Galantia, the associate head of this powerful group of
superangels, Page 526 being the first commissioned of all the ascendant
Evening Stars. This is one of the most magnificent of all the administrative
sectors of Jerusem, even though it is among the more recent constructions.
This center is fifty miles in diameter. The
Galantia headquarters is a monolithic cast crystal, wholly transparent.
These material-morontia crystals are greatly appreciated by both morontia
and material beings. The created Evening Stars exert their influence all
over Jerusem, being possessed of such extrapersonality attributes. The
entire world has been rendered spiritually fragrant since so many of their
activities were transferred here from Salvington.
4. The circles of the Master Physical Controllers. The various orders of the
Master Physical Controllers are concentrically arranged around the vast
temple of power, wherein presides the power chief of the system in
association with the chief of the Morontia Power Supervisors. This temple of
power is one of two sectors on Jerusem where ascending mortals and midway
creatures are not permitted. The other one is the dematerializing sector in
the area of the Material Sons, a series of laboratories wherein the
transport seraphim transform material beings into a state quite like that of
the morontia order of existence.
5. The circles of the ascending mortals. The central area of the circles of
the ascending mortals is occupied by a group of 619 planetary memorials
representative of the inhabited worlds of the system, and these structures
periodically undergo extensive changes. It is the
privilege of the mortals from each world to agree, from time to time, upon
certain of the alterations or additions to their planetary memorials. Many changes are even now being made in the
Urantia structures.The center of these 619 temples is occupied by a working
model of Edentia and its many worlds of ascendant culture.
This model is
fortymiles in diameter and is an actual
reproduction of the Edentia system, true to the original in every detail.
Ascenders enjoy their Jerusem services and take pleasure in observing the
techniques of other groups. Everything done in these various circles is open
to the full observation of all Jerusem.
The activities of such a world are of three distinct varieties:
work, progress, and play. Stated otherwise,
they are: service, study, and relaxation.
The composite activities consist of social intercourse, group entertainment,
and divine worship. There is great educational value in mingling with
diverse groups of personalities, orders very different from one's own
fellows.
6. The circles of the courtesy colonies. The seven circles of the courtesy
colonies are graced by three enormous structures: the vast astronomic
observatory of Jerusem, the gigantic art gallery of Satania, and the immense
assembly hall of the reversion directors, the theater of morontia activities
devoted to rest and recreation.
The celestial artisans direct the spornagia and provide the
host of creative decorations and monumental
memorials which abound in every place of public assembly. The studios
of these artisans are among the largest and most beautiful of all the
matchless structures of this wonderful world. The other courtesy colonies
maintain extensive and beautiful headquarters.
Many of these buildings are constructed wholly of crystal gems. All
the architectural worlds abound in crystals and
the so-called precious metals.
Page 527 7. The circles of the finaliters have a
unique structure at the center. And this same vacant temple is found
on every system headquarters world throughout Nebadon.
This edifice on Jerusem is sealed with the
insignia of Michael, and it bears this inscription:
"Undedicated to the seventh stage of spirit--to
the eternal assignment." Gabriel placed the
seal on this temple of mystery,and none but
Michael can or may break the seal of sovereignty affixed
by the Bright and Morning Star.
Some day you shall look upon this silent temple,
even though you may not penetrate its mystery.
Other Jerusem circles: In addition to these residential circles there are on
Jerusem numerous additional designated abodes.
Urantia Book search on the Seventh stage of
Spirit.
The seventh jubilee marks entrance into the
mortal finaliter corps and the beginning of the
eternity service. The attainment of the seventh stage of spirit
realization by a finaliter will probably signalize the celebration of
the first of the jubilees of eternity.
and
Quote
One
of us holds the opinion that this vacant place in the corps will be filled
by some type of being of origin in the new universe of their future service;
the other inclines to the belief that this place will be occupied by some
type of Paradise personality not yet created, eventuated, or trinitized. But
we will most likely await the entrance of the
finaliters upon their seventh stage of spirit attainment before we
really know.
and more
Quote
The
Perfectors of Wisdom will always require this complement of experiential
wisdom for the completion of their administrative sagacity.
But it has been postulated that a high and
hitherto unattained level of wisdom may possibly be achieved by the Paradise
finaliters after they are sometime inducted into the seventh stage of spirit
existence. If this inference is correct, then
would such perfected beings of evolutionary ascent
undoubtedly become the most effective universe administrators ever to be
known in all creation. I believe that such is the high destiny of finaliters
and more and more
Quote
Within the completed power-personality synthesis of the Supreme Being there
will be associated all of the absoluteness of the several triodities which
could be so associated, and this majestic
personality of evolution will be experientially attainable and
understandable by all finite personalities. When ascenders attain the
postulated seventh stage of spirit existence,
they will therein experience the realization of a
new meaning-value of the absoluteness and infinity of the triodities as such
is revealed on subabsolute levels in the Supreme Being,who is experiencible. But the attainment
of these stages of maximum development will probably
await the co-ordinate settling of the entire grand
universe in light and life.
there is much in the seventh stage of spirit search in the urantia Book link
in the above
sevens
posted
08-12-2007 09:29 AM
Hey Riven
where are you!!!
I'm making big connections, the symbolism, a circle in a triangle.
I'm making big connections, the symbolism is all pointing from Jesus' so called
tomb to the great Pyramid to the Dilmun triangular temples to the triangles and
diamonds divisions in Dalamatia city all the way to the Jerusem circles and
triangles, the universal capital of this system.
Man I think we are getting close and think years ago when we met the conversion
and look at it know, the evolution of it to a great prospect and I think will be
a great new reality provided by the Atlantis Gods, so to speak.
I believe this the standard of attitude The Kingdom of Heaven requires for
rapture!
I think this includes quite a number of people and seems like a very simple
attitude. I'm mean we all do that here in our own way.
And here is a study on the family tomb of Jesus.
I was interested in the triangle and circle symbol but does lead to the
ancient places and all the way up to the Universe Capital of the Universe of
Jesus.
Rest assured the Family of
Jesus is probably in the capital with Jesus.
How interesting the whole journey. Completely and utterly compelling and totally
inspiring! The prospect of it. in virtual reality in this time!
Quote:
The seventh jubilee marks entrance into the
mortal finaliter corps and the beginning of the eternity service. The
attainment of the seventh stage of spirit realization
by a finaliter will probably signalize the
celebration of the first of the jubilees of eternity.
Like I said in a end time forum all it takes is for one guy to work the last
mystery out and make the right connections to the plan and path and then
Suddenly!
Just one person, that all its takes to enter transition as foreseen in part by
all the prophets.
Like for the finaliters in
Paradise.
sevens
Posted:
Sun Aug 12, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject:
absolutely 100%, yeah but
what about the Ultimacy stage of existence...Wow! What a prospect, of a new
heaven and earth in Ultimacy for the first time through unlocking of the mystery
of the temple of Michael here in Urantia.
or something like that. Ahh its fun to contemplate.
Although here is another view point. Ahh
it interesting but I feel more convinced with this research through the
books.
I don't think the Maitreya is the anti
Christ. But I don't the
www.Reel.org leader is the New Maitreya either. I prefer the
biblical and Urantia account.
Although I see the same Triangle symbolism.
Maitreya From The West
Here is another view
Maitreya Project
A link into more about the triangle symbols and
how they have perpetuated over the years and what meaning the symbol derived
over time.
EYE OF HORUS:
A favorite crafts project in schools, it represents
the eye of Egyptian sun-god Horus who lost an eye battling Set. Pagans use it as
a charm to ward off evil. (See
All-Seeing Eye)
Notice that the picture shows a compound symbol -
several symbols joined together to give a more complex meaning. It includes an
unbiblical cross and, at the bottom, part of a face inside the rays of the sun.
(See Sun)
and look at this Kabbalistic triangle. Look
at the triangle with the circle in the middle of it.
The Eye of Providence or the all-seeing
eye is a symbol showing an eye surrounded by
rays of
light or a
glory, and usually enclosed by a
triangle. It is sometimes interpreted as representing the eye of
God keeping watch on
humankind (see
Divine Providence). Though more commonly interpreted by many as an
enlightened few, seperated from the base of the pyramid, which is the rest of
human kind.
Posted:
Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:51 pm Post subject: Fossils Could
Force Rethink of Human Evolution
Long before humans and Neanderthals lived side by side in Europe, two other
species of early humans were coexisting in Africa, a controversial new study
claims.
Researchers working in Kenya have found evidence that Homo habilis survived
hundreds of thousands of years longer than previously thought and coexisted
with another early human species, Homo erectus.
"There was more than one species of early man for an extended period of time
in East Africa," said study team member Frank Brown of the University of
Utah.
Ian Tattersall, a paleoanthropologist at the American Museum of Natural
History in New York City, said the new fossils support existing evidence
that more than one species of Homo, the genus to which our species belong,
inhabited Africa about 1.5 million years ago.
"This is definitely evidence for two coexisting lineages," said Tattersall,
who was not involved in the study.
The discoveries, detailed in the Aug. 9 issue of the journal Nature, could
force scientists to rethink the evolutionary relationship between the two
species. But some scientists are skeptical of the new claims.
Sister species
H. habilis is the earliest known member of the genus Homo. And H. erectus
was the first human ancestor to resemble modern humans. Due to the many
overlaps in their anatomy, it was previously thought that H. erectus was
descended from H. habilis. While that might still be the case, the new
findings open the possibility that the H. habilis and H. erectus once shared
a common ancestor from whom they split.
The researchers identified one of the fossils as a 1.44 million-year-old
partial jawbone belonging to H. habilis. Prior to the discovery, the most
recent H. habilis fossil was a 1.6 million-year-old specimen discovered by
paleoanthropologist Richard Leakey and his team in 1984 and dubbed "Turkana
Boy."
The other fossil uncovered at the site is a 1.55 million-year-old skullcap
undoubtedly belonging to H. erectus. Its small size compared to other known
H. erectus skulls indicates the species might have been sexually dimorphic,
with males physically larger than females. Most sexually dimorphic primates,
such as gorillas and baboons, tend to mate with multiple partners, so it's
possible H. erectus did as well, the researchers say.
The two fossils were discovered in 2000 in eons-old volcanic ash in the
Illeret region of Kenya, just east of Lake Turkana where Richard Leakey made
his discovery.
According to standard theory, H. erectus evolved from H. habilis, perhaps by
way of an intermediate known as H. ergaster. The relationship between H.
erectus and us, Homo sapiens, is murky and controversial. According to the
"Out of Africa" human migration model, H. erectus was the first early human
to leave Africa in substantial numbers, but it was later replaced by members
of H. sapiens, which made the same journey.
According to an alternative idea of our species' origin, the scattered bands
of H. erectus that originally left Africa simultaneously evolved into H.
sapiens in different parts of the world.
Peaceful coexistence
Scientists think Neanderthals and modern humans competed with each other,
with the end effect being that our species is the only members of Homo left
on the planet. In contrast, H. habilis and H. erectus, appear to have
avoided clashing with one another.
"The fact that they stayed separate as individual species for a long time
suggests that they had their own ecological niches, thus avoiding direct
competition," said study team member Meave Leakey, Richard Leakey's wife.
Based on the shape of their jaws and teeth, scientists think the diet of H.
habilis included more vegetation and less meat than H. erectus. This is
similar to the situation between gorillas and chimps today: Both apes live
in the same habitats, but gorillas eat more tough vegetables than chimps,
who are expert hunters.
Not fully convinced
The new findings raise the possibility that H. erectus and H. habilis are
actually sister species descended from a common ancestor who lived 2 to 3
million years ago. "Their co-existence makes it unlikely that H. erectus
evolved from H. habilis," Leakey said.
However, it's also possible that H. erectus evolved from a small band of
isolated H. habilis and the two species continued to live side by side for
several hundreds of thousands of years afterwards, said Tim White, a
paleoanthropologist at the University of California, Berkeley.
White, who was not involved in the study, said he is not fully convinced the
unearthed jawbone does indeed belong to H. habilis, and he thinks many of
his colleagues will be skeptical as well.
"It's going to be quite a controversial claim," White told LiveScience.
"There's a great deal of overlap in not only size but also shape between H.
erectus and H. habilis, so their claim that this is H. habilis is likely to
be viewed very skeptically by the community"
"The question that people are going to be asking is very simple: How do you
know this is not the upper jaw of H. erectus? Since the two are so similar
in their jaw and teeth," White added. "And the other thing about H. habilis
is that it is not a particularly well defined or well known species even
after almost 50 years after its discovery."
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By the way I found a symbolic link out of Jesus' family tomb to the Great
Pyramid, Dilmun, Dalamatia City and points to Mars just slight North of
the Face of Mars.
The same symbol from Jesus' family tomb.
Another sign on top of all the others that we are very close.
The sign of the great pyramid is inside the shaft on the plug. The symbol then
points to Dilmun to there triangle temples with circular hole on the too. The
Pyramids is a 3d rendition of these earlier temples. Unreal man to find the
great pointer in the Pyramid that has direct connection to Jesus and bible
prophecy.
Everything will accelerate as we close to solving the complete mystery on the
run and by the way this is a very big piece of puzzle forming a coherent
oneness.
Ive inserted the Mars triangles or the 3 mmm's image
The connections in this journey are inter intergalactic reaching to the
triangles of the universe capital from Jesus' family tomb to Mars to the capital
of this Universe and through all the ancient first places in symbolism, the
triangle and the circle inside. The greater universe are very interested in the
uncovering of the great mystery and all are observing with great expectation.
Probably not because its most likely a fairly new word adopted.
But there are other references using other words that speak similar things and
parables that point to it. Like the Parables of the Feast, the wedding feast and
the bridegroom. When they both comeback.
Also I haven't just looked in the Bible but in Enoch and the UB and St Ephraim
and other sources, a spread.
Its spread across the books in the most subtle ways and clues in my view.
I agree with you, it seems so out there that it almost seems incomprehensible
for such a thing to happen.
Yes I also agree there has been many people saying the same things but nothing
happens.
However I feel there is path for this to happen has to be unlocked by ourselves.
Angels will help but man has to work out the final mystery himself so he can see
for himself. I feel in my own personal research in all the things we are getting
awfully close.
Smiley, I think there are many references where the Elect and faithful ones will
be taken by the bridegroom for a feast, Also there seems to be texts posted that
seem to support this without mentioning rapture or trinity. The UB Parable of
the feast is all about rapture and also about the sower.
But its not only in the bible, the scenario but in all the books. Logically
speaking I think a rapture or being caught up would be a perfect non violent way
of getting mans attention, to make him think and consider things that normally
he couldn't give a damn about. Man is simply self centered and selfish and full
of pride and prejudice to even listen. Something has to jolt him into thinking,
real thinking about his destiny!
Thats what I think Rapture is all about to make man think.
I know I mention dates and so forth in my research but those dates are from the
research which fits like a glove which also reflects my personal experience.
"This kingdom is an everlasting
dominion. Those who enter the kingdom shall attain the right hand of his glory
in Paradise. And all who enter the kingdom of heaven shall become the sons of
God, and in the age to come so shall they ascend to the Father. And I
have not come to call the would-be righteous but sinners and all who hunger
and thirst for the righteousness of divine perfection.
I feel the highlight in the above
related to ascend which can cover rapture.
Here is the standard of Rapture or personality survival. Whether it be through
translation or through death.
quote:
As to the chances of mortal
survival, let it be made forever clear: All souls of every possible phase of
mortal existence will survive provided they manifest willingness to co-operate
with their indwelling Adjusters and exhibit a desire to find God and to attain
divine perfection,even though these desires be but thefirst faint flickers of
the primitive comprehension of that "true light which lights every man who
comes into the world."
and here is a piece from St Ephraim
who tells us to look into the sea for the Godhead, which includes the ancient
places and tells of the effect of the discoveries in physical, like in this
journey.
quote:
3.It answered me and said, "The
daughter of the sea am I, the illimitable sea! And from that sea whence I came
up it is that there is a mighty treasury of mysteries in my bosom! Search thou
out the sea, but search not out the Lord of the sea!
"I have seen the divers who came down after me, when astonied, so that from
the midst of the sea they returned to the dry ground; for a few moments they
sustained it not. Who would linger and be searching on into the depths of
the Godhead?
Again tells us the key to the mystery
is in the sea and describes the lone researcher looking for the truth in the sea
and also infers that he is successful.
18. Again, the diver brings up-out of the sea the pearl.-Be baptized and
bring up from the water-purity that therein is hidden,-the pearl that is set
as a jewel-in the crown of the Godhead. (The Godhead is the ancient places
from the sea. I mean this is so obvious now.)
and in the following in my mind is about the Tower of Babel submerged and is
the subject of great change and seems confirmed here. In mystery looked for
one, that is true in this journey.
The tower that the many builded, in mystery looked for One, who coming down
would build on earth a tower that lifts up to Heaven.
In the Quran it describes the 40 days
test that extended itself that I declared on this very forum on July4th 06 and
clearly describes the characteristics of the research to a tee.
quote:
The hidden treasures will spill
forth at his command.
He will stay on this Earth for a period of forty days; the length of the
first day will be one year, the second day will be equal to one month, the
third day will be equal to a week and the remaining days will be normal
In calculation this period equals 439
days, the full length of the 40 day test, which started on 4th July 06
and finishes on September 18th 07. Also Enoch was born in the first week
of the Seventh month.
OIn the following is again from a Hadith from the Quran
quote:
He will be unable to enter Makkah
because the Malaikah will be guarding the Holy City and nor will he be able to
enter Madina because there will be Malaikah guarding each of the seven
entrances to Madina; From Madina he will proceed towards Shaam where Imaam
Mahdi will be stationed.
Finally Isa (Isa is Jesus) will descend from the heavens and pursue him and
eventually kill him at present day Lydda (Baad Lud). I think Babel ludd or
simply Babel related to the submerged places.
Well this exactly what I have saying
that great change will happen in Babel/Dilmun because essentially thats where
most of our problems occurred so it will finish there. The end is at the
beginning!!!
Again from the Hadith is an exact overview of the whole project and the
discovery of all the relevant to truth submerged places, they have all been
located.
Allah's Apostle said, "Two gardens, the utensils and the contents of which
are of silver, and two other gardens, the utensils and contents of which are
of gold.
And nothing will prevent the people who will be in the Garden of Eden from
seeing their Lord except the curtain of Majesty over His Face."
4 submerged cities 2 of them previous
temples of the Father have been located in the NASA images and we have been to
the 1stGatrden of Eden twice as in the Urantia Book. This little piece "And
nothing will prevent the people who will be in the Garden of Eden from seeing
their Lord except the curtain of Majesty over His Face"
Just says it all. The ancient places by extension through the Garden of Eden is
all mentioned in the above and and just recently discovered in confirmation
within this time frame.
"And nothing will prevent the people who will be in the Garden of Eden from
seeing their Lord except the curtain of Majesty over His Face"
RAPTURE or being caught up! So all 4 places have been discovered and all that
seems left is rapture where we will see the Face of Lord Jesus.
He is the true God not the deceptive mob that rule the system, currently.
Anyway there is loads more but as you can see I feel this journey to the ancient
places is all related to discovery of the mystery and rapture before correction
and transition.
Here is warning about this time, I
would keep an open mind and check things out. The worst thing in all of this is
Pride and Prejudice.
quote:
Jesus said, as ye go, preach,
saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.And whosoever shall not receive you,
nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the
dust of your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for
the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise
as serpents, and harmless as doves.
This is the difference with all the
other dudes claiming rapture, this project is a working project on the run and
is all about real discovery of real places of our past its not just about
scripture, there is a physical element to it.
With respect to the 3M triangles of
Mars north of the Face of Mars.
Is any one interested in coming with me to Mars to verify the ruins????
aghahahahahahah
having a laugh.
someone must be interested in an expedition to Mars.
Its amazing that out of Jesus family tomb it took me to mars and the capital of
the this Universe.
Jesus family tomb actually held a very big mystery that unlocked many things in
this journey to the ancient places and unlocked a journey to the galactic
heavens like Mars and Jerusem.
What a story and an accomplishment for the glory of the Father, fantastic Jesus
and the angels. He is so alive in this full life project.
There are no dead works here in this one.
Well if rapture happens as expected. I
would like an angel to take me to Mars to check it out the 3M triangles,
personally. See what happens but I believe its possible and I cant see any
reason why it cant happen in that time.
sevens
posted
08-14-2007 03:47 A
Nostradamus inferring rapture.
quote:
C 2 Q 28 The moon in the middle of the night . . .point of inception, I know what
this refers to. The young sage alone with his mind has seen it.(Seen the path, the
truth and the construct) His disciples invite him to become immortal . . . (invited to partake
of the tree of life by the angels. become immortal, translation.) His body in the fire. (translation fire passing through to the next
dimension of existence, the Angelic realm.)
But you never know about anything these days, as two realms come closer
together, day by day no matter how cuckoo it sounds. Many magical things could
happen and I believe are happening.
Hey Seek you coming on this adventure in the yellow submarine?
I really appreciate you research and post and thoughts on the matter.
There seems to be vast view on Rapture or physical ascension.
From all the main parables I read of Jesus Like the feast and Sower I find is
all about physical ascension, an ascension that I believe will part of the
demonstration and those with faith even of a mustard seed will ascend.
This is the standard of physical ascension translation.
quote:
As to the chances of mortal
survival, let it be made forever clear: All souls of every possible phase
of mortal existence will survive provided they manifest willingness to
co-operate with their indwelling Adjusters and exhibit a desire to find God
and to attain divine perfection, even though these desires be but the
first faint flickers of the primitive comprehension of that "true light which
lights every man who comes into the world."
I suppose at the end of the day it
comes down to what you accept in information. By shutting down people who
endeavor to help others and who may prophecy along the way as in the way of
Cayce is a bit harsh.
You say you read the bible 7 times, what is that a ritual where we say OH wow! I
was wondering have you read the Urantia Book and made the cross links. Or have
you read St Ephraim particularly the mystery of Solomon. That's is a real
reflection of many things that I'm familiar with in the journey to the ancient
places which is the CROWN like the 3MMM triangles found in the family tomb of
Jesus and all the ancient places.
But because Christians are taught to never except anything other than the bible
I feel is a system which is doomed for failure and rebuke for failure to seek
their heritage of ages! Failure to see and recognize because of pride and
prejudice. This is going to be a real problem for the individual and could lead
to disappointment.
By the way Smiley how do you propose the end times finish?? Whats your step by
step proposal for the end times? And would that be based on your personal
experience and journey or what you read in speculation.
Also Atlantis Gods where the first Kings of Atlantis. Dalamatia City is
Atlantis, it is the first place where the Sons of gods were together and
civilized man. Dalamatia City in the Persian Gulf is the Atlantis and relates to
the great Pyramid directly.
Anywhere else for Atlantis you are dreaming and treading soil with loose
foundation.
I think degrading this post to misc is just an insult to the Atlantis Gods who
wish to reveal themselves in this time, actually another word Atlantis is
Paradise. If you read your bible.
I was wondering Smiley Are the book burner who razed all the good threads on
this forum including "Discovery of Atlantis" where we are left is the same ole
conversation with same ole self vain gloriousness of some that leads no where
near a great discovery. Just chatter and going around in circles.
Sevens
posted
08-15-2007 05:27 AM
quote:
MYSTERY BABYLONTHE GREAT THE
MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
I agree with you Tom. Here is
something Ive been thinking and contemplating about. Its just a thought.
The circular foundations of the
Tower of Babel.
quote:
MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREATTHE
MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Is Babylon the same as Babel? Does the
end happen in Babel rather than on Baghdad or near Baghdad Iraq?
Could it Babel as in the submerged City? in the North Eastern Persian Gulf?
Its all to do with a mystery is the mystery related to the end of the Mystery of
Babylon or Babel.
There is the Seventh Mystery and there is the Mystery of Babylon/Babel 2 mystery
one ends the other.
Could it be related to this location.
http://dalamatiacity.com/babel/ Is this part of the journey part of the
breaking of Babel through truth and realization.
Babel is exactly where the NODITE system came from as we know it today, it began
from here and so it will end there. From what I understand in Bible Babylon or
Babel will be destroyed, does that mean that the NODITE system as we know it is
destroyed. I feel this points to the NODITE system foundation and could includes
the architects and followers of the System of Babel.
I believe this has many ramifications to the actual system that we live under. I
believe this is a accurate interpretation regarding the Babel system. I wouldn't
invest in the Stock Market because its influenced by fear. What about if the fat
lady really sings? What happens to the Stock Market then, being underpinned by
greed and fear?? Perhaps Gold would be better to have through the tribulation,
money wont have the same worth. Part of the wake up call and to redefining with
the Father in mind.
Whats happens then when the Father has the last say through Jesus.
sevens
Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:10 am
sissco wrote:
I'm raging at this because I am a Brit! I'm
not surprised though...we've got stupid politicans who only listen to what
their advisors tell them rather than listen to the people! I've no trust in
our useless politicians and quite frankly have very little time for them
just be grateful you're all Americans and not living here in a Dump called
Britain!
SISSCO
I completely agree most politicians if not all, are just spin doctors and
liars. They don't have even enough individuality to make decisions on there
own.
I tell you the terrorist guided by the Sharia spiritual domination, just
couldn't give a crapper for human rights and life. Where ever the Sharia law
domination goes only spells death and destruction and failed states.
Sharia law is hardly a standard of Paradise, its a domination of ones will
over another and that's all it is, it has nothing to do with God in real
truth. It is doomed for failure like many other things on this planet that is
wayward. Its is a failure doctrine, one of many in the final analysis.
'The truth will rip all the false doctrines apart, However man, the spiritual
coward that he is will deny and run to the hills like the failure he is for
not seeking the heritage of the ages.
Sharia doctrine and other doctrines which take ones personal sovereignty away
through force and imposition are all marked for destruction. Bel has failed
and will fail more so, he is also marked for destruction by the Ancients of
Days and those who promote his adjenda of rule by force, they will most likely
not be here.
All false doctrine where ever it may lay will be kicked of the planet
including there supporters.
Thats my beef for the day.
sevens
Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:10 am
Quote:
The movement said that the establishment of a
Caliphate, a global Muslim empire, is the only way to liberate Muslims from
"racism," "degradation," and "occupation." Hizb Ut-Tahrir leader
Ata Khalil Abu Al-Rashtha said that the Ramallah gathering was the first of
its kind in the PA. Al-Rashta is a civil engineer from Hevron region.
I'm not sure what they are on about as they are very racist themselves against
Non Muslims.
Its funny because in there book it says that Isa (Jesus) is coming to shut
down Satan in Babellud. What I cant understand if they respect Jesus why don't
even venture to love one another even there enemies.
Anyway, I don't think they will be successful at all as Paradise has different
intentions rather than all this death and destruction through terrorism. For a
people that basically supports terrorism they really fall into a situation
where the Father cant help them, because again they are full of pride and
prejudice and studying limitation with error in the interpretation in all
things without any objectivity. They are the victims of the last rebel and
they don't know it. The last rebel has infiltrated there ranks through
division with self vain gloriousness ideas in error.
In the Quran it does prophecy that Islam will end with the world, well I know
Islam will finish in the form that we know it because it simply promotes death
and destruction of even there own people, quite willingly.
I am not impressed with the fruits of there religion that causes death and
destruction and failed states and will imposition over others. It will not
work and its doomed to failure by Paradise.
From what I see in my research and in the journey and discovery of the first
places with all the messages they are on the losing end because of there
attitude. They will not make the standard of Paradise which is truth, beauty
and goodness and everything that Jesus mentions.
The ones supporting terrorism will not make it to Paradise because they
willingly sin with there teachers teaching error for there own political
purpose.
This may seem a little far fetched but it the new book supported by the
discoveries that might have chance to break through the death and destruction
crap that we see.
The origins of Islam evolved out of Judaism and Christianity of the Eastern
branch which got absorbed. It just simple as that. Its is not the new
revelation and is full spiritual bondage and denigration of women as third
rate citizens. Its is a religion that is devolving into the lowest level with
very little intellect and power. Ive been apart of there forums which
ultimately I got banned. Believe me there is nothing there, not like we have
here. Its all bankrupt, morally.
They will come into a great shock and rebuke from Paradise if they don't get
there act together. I am not confident of that they can, because they have
been dumbed down with outworn rituals which are not relevant to Paradise nor
in todays world.
I have no faith in those terrible misguided leaders, there all bad and use
religion as an excuse for political purpose, thats why Church and State does
have its problems like we see in Islam and in the failed states of barbarism,
Sudan a clear example. I tell you they are in great sin at the moment and they
are dragging the whole world with them.
I believe through the UB and the ancient places it can counter all the crap.
By simple truth in your face!
The Quran is compilation of Eastern Christian and Judaism ideas mixed with no
doubt, a few of there own limited ideas by the fruits.
The Quran is not written in the hands of angels like the Urantia Book and it cannot
demonstrate like the Urantia Book and the ancient first places and if it does
demonstrate something it will come against them as I can see in my personal
research and journey. But they will run to the hills running from truth.
Thats my second beef for the day. Gee I must really pissed off at the world
currently.
I really want this second coming to happen now soon because man is going no
where and I want to go somewhere positive.
By putting all the books on the table like in the ancient places I challenge
them in truth but they will not win through there intellect! There only
alternative for them is death and destruction if they cant overcome truth.
That's how useless it is and that's why Jesus our Lord has to come back to
correct this problem because we cannot do this feat, it needs Paradise to
bring out the truth of things.
sevens
Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:10 am
As far as I'm concerned "The Union" will stand and
everyone here will stand tall in confidence in the "The Union of the
Kingdom of Heaven"
Like I saw the members of congress "Together" standing at the steps of
Congress singing that great olden American hymn right after 911 so shall we
all stand in "The kingdom of Heaven"
The Union will stand by the might and power of the Father in heaven and as
Jesus our lord and Saviour, our best friend and good brother.
Praise the Lord for that great blessing.
The vision of George Washington will stand and be victorious!
We do have a friend in Jesus. Our only hope!
sevens
Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:10 am
Quote:
Emergency workers and grieving relatives in
northern Iraq, meanwhile, pressed ahead with recovery efforts two days after
a quadruple suicide truck bombing in the village of Qahataniya near the
Syrian border. The attacks - the deadliest of the Iraq war -
targeted Yazidis, a small Kurdish-speaking sect whose members are considered
to be blasphemers by Muslim extremists.
Dakhil Qassim, the mayor of the nearby Sinjar town, said reports by other
local officials that the casualty toll had risen to 500 dead and more than
375 wounded were true.
How these perpetrators survive, they will not see the Face of God nor
Paradise.
This is the kind of evil that Father will destroy and those people.
and now I come back to those famous words of the misguided that misleading
those in Indonesia.
Quote:
The movement said that the establishment of a
Caliphate, a global Muslim empire, is the only way to liberate Muslims from
"racism," "degradation," and "occupation." Hizb Ut-Tahrir leader
Ata Khalil Abu Al-Rashtha said that the Ramallah gathering was the first of
its kind in the PA. Al-Rashta is a civil engineer from Hevron region.
Such fruits of hypocrisy and clear example of evil and self vain gloriousness
coupled with murder, straight, flat out murder.
They will not survive the perpetrators and will never see the face of the
Father.
Did they ever spare a thought for the widows and orphan's they crate in a
cruel evil world. So that action is in the name of Allah eh!!! Well Allah
would be highly insulted by this act of evil.
They the perpetrators of evil will never achieve there ego and misguided goals
for world domination.
Paradise and Allah and the 12 Imam will come against them with fury.
They really sinned with this one.
sevens
Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:10 am
Quote:
Emergency workers and grieving relatives in
northern Iraq, meanwhile, pressed ahead with recovery efforts two days after
a quadruple suicide truck bombing in the village of Qahataniya near the
Syrian border. The attacks - the deadliest of the Iraq war -
targeted Yazidis, a small Kurdish-speaking sect whose members are considered
to be blasphemers by Muslim extremists.
Dakhil Qassim, the mayor of the nearby Sinjar town, said reports by other
local officials that the casualty toll had risen to 500 dead and more than
375 wounded were true.
How these perpetrators survive, they will not see the Face of God nor
Paradise.
This is the kind of evil that Father will destroy and those people.
and now I come back to those famous words of the misguided that misleading
those in Indonesia.
Quote:
The movement said that the establishment of a
Caliphate, a global Muslim empire, is the only way to liberate Muslims from
"racism," "degradation," and "occupation." Hizb Ut-Tahrir leader
Ata Khalil Abu Al-Rashtha said that the Ramallah gathering was the first of
its kind in the PA. Al-Rashta is a civil engineer from Hevron region.
Such fruits of hypocrisy and clear example of evil and self vain gloriousness
coupled with murder, straight, flat out murder.
They will not survive the perpetrators and will never see the face of the
Father.
Did they ever spare a thought for the widows and orphan's they create to live
in this cruel evil world. So that action is in the name of Allah eh!!! Well
Allah would be highly insulted by this act of evil.
They the perpetrators of evil will never achieve there ego and misguided goals
for world domination.
Paradise and Allah and the 12 Imam will come against them with fury.
They really sinned with this one and with all the other crimes against
mankind!
Its so true what Petra posted, this is see as the current reality. Petra
posted a spot on verse for this scenario.
Quote:
Quote:
(Isa 9:16) For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and
they that are led of them are destroyed.
(Isa 9:17) Therefore the Lord shall have no joy in their young men,
neither shall have mercy on their fatherless and
widows: for every one is an hypocrite and an evildoer, and every
mouth speaketh folly. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his
hand is stretched out still.
So this mass destruction in Northern Iraq is representative of the so called
great Sharia law eh! Is this what Sharia law does to mankind. Is this the
ultimate conclusion to Sharia law, death and destruction upon innocent people
going about there normal lives. Sharia Law, deemed by Paradise is doomed for
failure and rebuke from Paradise and from the 12th Imam.
Paradise including the 12 Imam is Not happy about this at
all! They will put a final stop to this evil behavior!
95 The realm left to two they will hold it very briefly,
(Inserted August 17th 07) The treasure houses of the planet is given to two,
in the great discoveries of the ancient places. 1st Eden by Robert Sarmast
November 2004 and Dalamatia, Babel/Dilmun and 1st
Susa and Adamson
civilisation by Sevens throughout the timeline since 2004. The Adamson
Civilisation was discovered due to a quest, Robert Sarmast put forward, an open
quest of discovery.
also
The two could be the very same two mentioned in
the following post from St Ephraim about the discovery of the ancient places.
Here is an excerpt "4. "Searching is mingled with thanksgiving, and
whether of the two will prevail?" Its from the hymns of the Seven
Pearls by St Ephraim (Eastern Christian Church, The Church of Philadelphia,
Abner's headquarters.. Brilliant. A major connection and parallel.
continuing... Three years and seven months passed by they
will make war: Inserted 17 August 07, Inserted 17
August 07, November 2003 A presentation was made by myself at a UB
conference, it was a great presentation. Simultaneously the release of the book
Discovery of Atlantis by Robert Sarmast was released, 3 years and seven
months later which arises on June 07. It was in the month of June on
June 28th Discovery of Dalamatia was made by Sevens and 6 days later we
begin the second season of the 4th of July test declared to the ancients
of Days in 06. The test has extended itself as reflected in an Hadith and has
turned into a 439 day test ending on September 18th 07.. It was in
the month of June on June 28th 07 Discovery of
Dalamatiawas made by Sevens. This
seems to fulfill the above verse in the quatrain.
The two Vestals will rebel in opposition,
Keepers of the sacred fire in metaphor of truth. Perhaps the two want
things to change for the positive and use this place for man to wake up to him
himself. In opposition to death and destruction together in opposition.
Victor the younger in the land of Brittany.
The Younger Sage who is victorious from the great land of Sinim in the future.
Land of Brittany could be a colony of Britain in the future, like the great
Southern sunburnt land of Sinim in the far east. The source of the journey
mentioned in Job. The war could be a spiritual war and could begin with the
Rapture!
Information on the Vestals Virgins
Vestal Virgin
From Wikipedia, the free
encyclopedia
Image of a Roman Vestal Virgin
In
Ancient Rome, the Vestal Virgins (sacerdos Vestalis), were the
virgin holypriestesses
of
Vesta, the
goddess of the
hearth. Their
primary task was to maintain the
sacred fire of Vesta. The Vestal duty brought great honor and afforded
greater privileges to women who served in that role. They were the only female
priests within the Roman religious system.
I appreciate the posts, seek, they
where very interesting and I saw much in much of the fragments, thanks for that.
In my case for me, At the end of the day I said what I wanted to say and I'm not
arguing or debating this any longer. This what I think in accordance to a
journey to the ancient places with the discoveries and messages along the way
appearing in the timeline of the journey throughout all the books for myself.
I will know around Sept 30 07 whether this 3 years seven month research was
right.
If I'm right, it will be interesting. If I'm wrong no big deal.
A time line riddle . How I entered into
the mystery of the ancient places. I declared the 40 day test on
July4th 06 . I extended my 40 day test to cover a 70 day period which
ended September 11th adapting it to Enochs 10 week end time judgement process
ends since it started in the same month and fisrt week as I found out later. .
In the Seventh Part I discovered the two Nodite Dilmun cities.
Babel/Dilmun and1st Susa on September 16-17 at 12.00am 06.
6 days after the end
of the 10 week Enoch test. second stage of the test.
On June 28th 07 I discovered Dalamatia City
as described in the Urantia Book on 6 days before the
second season of the 40 day test. Like a perfection in the timeline
of discovery that have order in time and in prophecy I just feel into
through this discovery journey.
I see in the following the characteristics in
Jesus' words that describe the timing of the discoveries 6 days before, at the
beginning of the 40 day test or Enoch's 10 week judgement and the discovery of
the first city Dalamatia 6 days before the great test.
Just looking at the numbers 6 days before
then 70day prophecy period and 6 days at the end another discovery earlier
at the beginning.
So the numbers separated by discovery and days
and prophecy is
6 - 70 - 6
The number of our planet is 606 and I see a 7
which could mean Sevenfold in the timeline. Quiet possible.
6 discovery 70 prophecy Enoch judgment
period and 6 days day
and what did Jesus say to Thomas
and here is another intersecting parallel from the Book of Thomas.
"Tell us how our end will be." Jesus
said, "Have you discovered, then, the beginning, that you look for the end?
For where the beginning is, there will the end be.
Blessed is he who will take his place in the
beginning; he will know the end and will not experience death,"
I see parallels
in this mystery
Remember Thomas
did have his doubt about Jesus' resurrection, this could be the same situation.
In this journey
Dalamatia is the Beginning,you have to look at the end of the
prophecy timeline to find the beginning at Dalamatia
which is the beginning when discovered,
the beginning was discovered at the end of the journey in the complete
timeline. This is the confirmation of
the condition and stipulated by the Lord Jesus. In perfection of
discoveries and timelines in prophecy.
earlier
Im amazed.
Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:43 pm
A time line riddle. Little out there but could be
important for the future. Who knows!
How I entered into the mystery of the ancient places. I declared the 40 day
test on July4th 06 . I extended my 40 day test to cover a 70 day period which
ended September 11th adapting it to Enoch's 10 week end time judgment process,
since it started in the same month and first week as I found out later.. In
the Seventh Part I discovered the two Nodite Dilmun cities.
Babel/Dilmun and 1st Susa
on September 16-17 at 12.00am 06. 6 days after
the end of the 10 week Enoch test. second stage of the test.
On June 28th 07 I discovered Dalamatia City as described in the
Urantia Book on 6 days before the second season of the 40 day test.
Like a perfection in the timeline of discovery that have order in time and in
prophecy I just feel into through this discovery journey.
I see in the following the characteristics in Jesus' words that describe the
timing of the discoveries 6 days before, at the beginning of the 40 day test
or Enoch's 10 week judgment and the discovery of the first city Dalamatia 6
days before the the second season the the 40 day test Enoch timeline in a
literal sense.
Just looking at the numbers 6 days before then 70day prophecy period and 6
days at the end another discovery earlier at the beginning.
So the numbers separated by discovery and days and prophecy is
6 - 70 - 6
The number of our planet is 606 UB) and I see a 7 which could mean Sevenfold
in the timeline. Quiet possible.
6days discovery 70days prophecy Enoch judgment period and 6 days after another
discovery but at the end according to the Hadith which says the test extends
to 439 days which September 18th 07 One day after the the Dilmuns was discovered
in 06. I find that quite symbolic.
and what did Jesus say to Thomas
and here is another intersecting parallel from the Book of Thomas.
Quote:
"Tell us how our end will be." Jesus
said, "Have you discovered, then, the beginning,
that you look for the end? For where the beginning is, there will the end be.
[b]Blessed is he who will take his place in the beginning; he will know the
end and will not experience death,"[/b]
I see parallels in this mystery
Remember Thomas did have his doubt about Jesus' resurrection, this could be
the same situation.
In this journey
Dalamatia is the Beginning, you have to look at the
end of the prophecy timeline to find the beginning at Dalamatia which
is the beginning when discovered, the beginning was discovered at the end of
the journey within the complete timeline. This is the confirmation of the
condition and stipulated by the Lord Jesus. In perfection of discoveries and
timelines in prophecy.
In the following is some thoughts I
had last night considering timeline in discovery and in prophecy periods. Like
in this journey.
I post this for Seeks benefit and for his investigation because I think he is
one guy that perhaps sees similar things and seems wide and deep. I thought
this may be worth investigating.
If this is the key that activates a process that been dormant in prophecy,
well so be it.
If the "kingdom of Heaven" has to deal with things on this planet then
the knowledge and truth of Babel and the first places has to come out to be
dealt with. Thats why the treasure houses that have been preserved with
purpose has to come out.
If this research is right then it would have to prove itself. As fas as I know
the closest approach Paradise of its self can make from the eternal to Finite
is through the timeline of things and the pattern it shapes. Its marker!
The following is only based on my personal journey. Remember that in these
things, all it takes is for one human to see it and then it runs. There
appears to be two mysteries in the end time scenario, The mystery of Babel
which is the mystery that has to be revealed in truth as this forms the reason
of the adjudication. Then you have the Seventh Mystery which is the Mystery
that embraces the first places of the whole journey.
The Seventh angel is representative of the Sevenfold Teaching Mission. There
is corp of very large Seraphims that run this outpost on this planet. The run
operations for the cause of truth and righteousness. I believe its them that,
The Sevenfold angels that call the end of the mystery of Mankind. However the
Sevenfold mystery deals directly with the Mystery of Babel or the events of
the first default of the Sons of Gods who fell from there first estate.
Well I can see that we are close through my journey in the ancient places.
Here is some calculations of the journey in discovery and prophecy.
----------------------------------------- A time line riddle. Little out there but could be important for the
future. Who knows! Thats why its here. This could verification of the journey.
How I entered into the mystery of the ancient places. I declared the 40 day
test on July4th 06 . I extended my 40 day test to cover a 70 day period which
ended September 11th adapting it to Enoch's 10 week end time judgment process,
since it started in the same month and first week as I found out later.. In
the Seventh Part I discovered the two Nodite Dilmun cities. Babel/Dilmun
and 1st Susa on September 16-17 at 12.00am 06. 6 days after the end of
the 10 week Enoch test in the 06 literal season 07 is the second season of
the test!
On June 28th 07 I discovered Dalamatia City as described in the Urantia
Book on 6 days before the second season of the 40 day test, 4th July Like
a perfection in the timeline of discovery that have order in time and in
prophecy I just feel into through this discovery journey.
I see in the following the characteristics in Jesus' words that describe the
timing of the discoveries 6 days before, at the beginning of the 40 day test
or Enoch's 10 week judgment and the discovery of the first city Dalamatia 6
days before the the second season the the 40 day test Enoch timeline in a
literal sense.
Just looking at the numbers 6 days before then 70 day prophecy period and 6
days at the end another discovery earlier at the beginning.
So the numbers separated by discovery and days and prophecy is
The number of our planet is 606 (UB) and I see a 7 which could mean Sevenfold
in the timeline. Quiet possible.
6days discovery 70days prophecy Enoch judgment period and 6 days after another
discovery but at the end according to the Hadith which says the test extends
to 439 days which September 18th 07 One day after the date but a year later
when the Dilmuns was discovered in 06. I find that quite symbolic.
"Tell us how our end will be."
Jesus said, "Have you discovered, then, [color=red]the beginning, that you
look for the end? For where the beginning is, there will the end be[/color].
[color=blue]Blessed is he who will take his place in the beginning; he will
know the end and will not experience death,"[/color]
I see parallels in this mystery
Remember Thomas did have his doubt about Jesus' resurrection, this could be
the same situation.
In this journey
Dalamatia is the Beginning, you have to look at the end of the
prophecy timeline to find the beginning at Dalamatia which is the
beginning when discovered, the beginning was discovered at the end of the
journey within the complete timeline. This is the confirmation of the
condition and stipulated by the Lord Jesus. In perfection of discoveries and
timelines in prophecy.
-----------------------------------
Two events, two locations, two mysteries unfolding, two discoveries in the
images.
In my personal view it seems that a platform is layed out for verification. If
this journey is true then it should come to pass. Remembering the 40 days test
was a test for all things, The books, mankind which included the "Kingdom of
Heaven" A test of faith! The faith of mankind but a precondition has to be met
or discovered then it runs. This would be the mystery of the "Kingdom of
Heaven" It would make all logical sense that would happen in this way.
Rapture or adjuster translation fusion would have to be a met precursor for
this thought process to have any merit.
If that occurs then its authentic and mankind better get his together for a
final end of the mystery and that wont happen for years.
Rapture would be the only way for man to recognize something. I don't think
there is any other way.
Everything is being tested.
Its funny Isaiah said they would learn and re study doctrine and murmur while
I suppose the elect would be learning other things with some rest.
I like to find out for myself whether time is linear or cyclical.
thank you. I appreciate your help.
UB p 97 the UB
quote:
The scribe of Deuteronomy had
portrayed the Great Choice --as between the good and the evil, the
blessing and the curse. Isaiah the first had preached a beneficent
king-deliverer
just checking some stuff out, The
great choice eh!
Thanks to proliferation of the wildly popular (and wildly problematic) Left
Behind books, many Christians, including some Catholics, believe in the
rapture.
The rapture theory holds that Christ will come silently, in a hidden way, to
remove “born-again believers” from this world just before the “Great
Tribulation,” when the Anti-Christ (cf. Mt 24:12) and the Beast (cf. Rev
13-17) rise to cause global havoc and bloodshed.
The Rapture theory first appeared toward the end of the 19th century among
some American Protestants who were fixated on the end-times. Prior to the 19th
century, the rapture theory, as it’s commonly understood, was unheard of.
So is rapture an 19th century doctrine that was inserted or something?
Eheheheh! whats up?
Well if there is no rapture and we are wrong! then we are headlong for judgment
and tribulation.
At the end of the day all these verses where the doctrines comes from seems like
a matter of interpretation.
However, for my own reasons and because I feel Ive seen reflections of rapture
in other BC books. I think Rapture would be the most logical thing in the
purposes of the Kingdom of Heaven on earth to happen. I feel if the "kingdom of
Heaven wanted to make a point i think now would be a good time and rapture would
be a good start.
Rapture was always a faith thing but I do see reflections else which seems
support the case and in with the timeline I'm working with. Another thing, I'm
not sure if there would be very many people and I wondering if it would be
noticed. I don't think so and if it did, it would forgotten very quickly.
As far as I'm concerned there is beautiful window of opportunity for the
"Kingdom of Heaven" in this timeline right now!
sevens
Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:32 am
Well looks like 21 August 07 is just a normal day,
no doubt a day full of death and destruction somewhere in the world based on
false doctrine.
My next date of interest is 7th September 07, this is a date
derived from my personal experience in the journey to the ancient places and
is based on the declaration on the Quest of the Seven commands made 7 months
prior (Feb 7th 07)without premeditiation. This is based on one of Nostradamus
quatrain "Seven months in advance it will deliver a nocturnal omen:"
This quatrain seems to match the timeline of this certain this proclamation of
mine regarding the "Quest for the Seven commands" made in Feb 7th 07.
Note that this date is speculation and is purely based on my thoughts and
experience in this journey.
all the best see what happens, perhaps a nocturnal omen will deliver itself
and arise in the month of September, 7 months in the beforehand!
While Im here here is another huge quatrain which speaks of the ancient first
places and the reality we are in currently.
Quote:
He will
come to expose the false topography, This refers to the NASA
artificial 3d images of submerged Dalamatia City and the two Nodite cities
to the North.
the urns of the tombs will be opened.
The urns or the artifacts of all the cities will be opened/discovered and
recovered and will change everything of history and what we know. One day??
when man pulls his finger out and gets on to it!!!! Thats when man gets over
his doctrine to see for himself!
Sect and holy philosophy to thrive,
This adventure to the submerged first places is all to do with truth and
nothing but truth, that will affect Religion, philosophy and science. This
rids the planet of crappy false doctrine with reliable expanded information
with discoveries and recoveries to back the beforehand in faith information.
You read it and you see it.
black for white and the new for the old.
Thats right, like in the bible, Old useless information for this day, like
false crappy doctrine will be replaced with new expanded knowledge and truth
which harmonises on all levels of science and religion, its an harmonisation,
a oneness. Not the ridiculous division we have in science and religion
today, not to mention all the stupidity in the analysis because of pride and
stupid prejudice and no research with a biased heart.
Sevens
Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:16 am
No worries Trophy of Grace
I appreciate your reply, Im still looking into the Babel/Babylon to see if its
the same thing.
The following reply is from Seek which I thought mentioned a few interesting
things concerning revision.
Quote:
PS, prior to the revision mandated by
the Papacy and subsequint approval of those revisons by the same, the word
"Babel" was often times replaced by the word "Babylon".
Just as God's "Holy One's" were later revised to be the..."Saint's",
having now a distinctly Roman flavor, born of the habit of the Roman Church
making many of its own..."saints".
Prior to the 1881 AD mandated revison of all Christian text/Bible's...the
He-Goat had SIX, not five, but SIX horns and the first horn was called the
horn of sight (sight ie prophecy) and the last horn (the tail of the dragon,
the tail of the Chimaera) was called the little horn of sight, as well there
were verses about that last little horn of sight which were totally removed
as a consequence of that He-Goat revision done in the Book of Daniel.
Before the 1881 AD revision, the Bible told us WHO that HORN of sight THAT
WAS..."WAS", it was that first Grecian HORN of the chimaera/He-goat's
mountain/kingdom.
(PS there are two more son's, one that IS not, he is the prince of the 7th
terrible beast kingdom.
And then there is that last heir or last one the tail of this dragon image
kingdom, and he IS the -ONE-that "IS", he is the one of the 8th kingdom yet
he came by way of the former ie the 7th.....
SEVEN TIMES MUST PASS OVER said Daniel before the the golden
head/King/ONE/human Sun of Babel will be restored....
The seventh must end, must passover (See Daniel), he is slain and ariseth
not as many say he will, but one of the prince of the seventh head/age)
blood shall take the throne of this 7th head prince, and through flatteries
shall he be seated as KING, (I believe we are talking borthers here)but
though he is of the 7th which will passover, he never the less is not of the
royal bloodline of that THRONE which he takes by FLATERIES, that is why at
his seating as KING an entirely NEW KINGDOM emerges as a result.
Even though he is of the 7th he yet is not a true heir to it, only of it by
flatteries and his (Blood?) conncetion to the seventh head prince...does he
(this 8th one)succeed to the the throne of the 7th head prince's
dominion/throne.)
The harlot couldn't keep us like a hen under her wings in the days of
inquisition, later her power for doing inquisition was removed, so she found
another way to alter our faith and perceptions of the Word of God and his
many holy ones...what she did was mix lies with truth onto the table of God.
What she did was try to hide information regarding the God given prophecy
from our eyes.
creating a state of confussion...which is afterall exactly what "Babel"
means.
It has other far reaching effects, it has effectively scattered the lambs
and sheeps in many directions, to now we (sometimes) heatedly debate what is
truth and what is not, what is false teaching and what is not etc, we point
fingers at each other, and let loose our arrows upon one another as a
result, divided we have not the strength to stand upright, we fall instead
as the devoured prey.
(PS, the above statements are not directed at people's here but at us as
peoples in general, though I must confess the peoples here are less
aggressive than most I have encountered elsewhere, for this I am most
grateful)
This seems to be the state for all those of Abraham's house, from the sons
to the bondservants etc.
The attack as it were, is or seems to be upon and directed at destroying
this house utterly and all that dwell within its walls under it's God.
This being the the real dark shadow that hovers over us all, this NWO
conspiracy, which many think has no bases what so ever, a conspiracy of
world leaders under a religious world leader ...all seen in Revelations
fornicating (acts of rebellion by those onced upon a time whom were born of
of the breath of God's spirit/wisdom, acts of rejection etc against God and
acts of adultery against God whom is the Bridegroom) those that left us and
God, found there way here in the great Harlot mother's scarlet bed.
I thought it was interesting considering there appears to be some revision of
the word Babel to Babylon from what I read in the above. Im not so interested
in the conspiracy theory but only in the revision and what was revised.
I was thinking does anyone know about these revisions.
I certainly brings to light some of the revisions that have been done to the
bible in fairly recent times.
all the best
sevens
Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:56 am
I think that since there appears to be evidence of
revision to the Bible by the Papacy, I think one should be very careful about
the book of revelations.
I feel Revelations has been tampered through out its history. I'm not sure
what the Papacy has changed but I'm sure there would be a few other things
than Babel/Babylon.
Who knows what's been altered by the Papacy.
That's why when Jesus comes again, it will be in his own time, in his own way.
Not the Pope's way nor the Churches way as suggested in the revelations. How
do we know what is true and what has been tampered with ??????? I am not
against any one at all. I want to know is the truth behind the matter, not
rubbish and I do understand why man would alter things to suit himself. Its
just in his nature concerning power.
Also about the rapture, even though I would like it to happen and in full
support of it. Once again how do we not know if this has been added doctrine
in a fairly recent time.
I'm just being objective here.
Believe me the credibility of my research rests on Rapture and verification of
the places. If neither happens well then my research will become another end
time statistic. I think Rapture is necessary for mankind to wake up to
himself. Unless something like this happens mankind will go his way destroying
the planet and its people for the next 1000 years.
Without Rapture things wont change for a thousand years. It will be some ole
death and destruction cycle through out the planet. The people will be saying
where is GOD! The more we go through this cycle of predicting Rapture and the
more it doesn't happen, the more loss of credibility the Bible and the
churches go through and that would be directly related to the false addition
at the whim of some papacy. See the effect of adding doctrine where it should
not be!
As far as I'm concerned regarding Rapture.... Bring it on!!! Bring on
Rapture!!...I hope that doctrine concerning Rapture is true because if it is
not true happen there will be many disappointed people squarely because of
wrong doctrine and mans additions along the way.
If the Father wanted to bring in a new truth or an expansion of the current
truth. Without rapture and verification it will take 1000 years for a new
revelation to click on!! There is no way man on global scale will click on to
a expanded truth he is to dumb and stupid and full of his garbage to be useful
in the "Kingdom of Heaven"
Another another note I was told about a doco about Christianity and its
commercial/materialism appearance which included Pastor Haggard. If this is
where Christianity is going. Man and Christianity is in trouble, big trouble,
if man relies on these self vain glorious soothsayers he has very little
chance of getting to the truth of everything. If you guys rely on these people
for truth YOU are in trouble of not finding the truth behind the whole
matter!!! I'm glad I'm a small lone humble SEVENFOLD operation on a
fantastic mission of truth and righteousness, the great Seraphic mission of
the Sevenfold scheme, direct of the Ancient of Days operation, You bet
brother!! . I'd rather have this poor operation than all the money, glory and
churches in the world. Money and power and spirituality in the Father is a
hard thing to handle for any man, that is a real test of faith! to handle
money, wealth, and a following of people who idolizes the leader. I wouldn't
want that for me, its better to stay in the background, small and humble
concerning these things only glorying in the real truth of the matter!!
It maybe very well the case that the Father will highlight inconsistency in
all our books first so we see the truth of the matter, in real truth and then
bring on some rapture to demonstrate his faithfulness to mankind. But I'm sure
there are few lessons we all have to go through first! Perhaps! Im like trying
to read the mind of the Father concerning this rapture case.
Trying to dig out the truth of everything! Also everything about Babel, the
source root of the problems of the planet is all going to come out and be
exposed to ultimate truth of Judgement of the rebel Sons of God.
regards
sevens
Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:16 am
No worries Trophy of Grace
I appreciate your reply, Im still looking into the Babel/Babylon to see if its
the same thing.
The following reply is from Seek which I thought mentioned a few interesting
things concerning revision.
Quote:
PS, prior to the revision mandated by
the Papacy and subsequint approval of those revisons by the same, the word
"Babel" was often times replaced by the word "Babylon".
Just as God's "Holy One's" were later revised to be the..."Saint's",
having now a distinctly Roman flavor, born of the habit of the Roman Church
making many of its own..."saints".
Prior to the 1881 AD mandated revison of all Christian text/Bible's...the
He-Goat had SIX, not five, but SIX horns and the first horn was called the
horn of sight (sight ie prophecy) and the last horn (the tail of the dragon,
the tail of the Chimaera) was called the little horn of sight, as well there
were verses about that last little horn of sight which were totally removed
as a consequence of that He-Goat revision done in the Book of Daniel.
Before the 1881 AD revision, the Bible told us WHO that HORN of sight THAT
WAS..."WAS", it was that first Grecian HORN of the chimaera/He-goat's
mountain/kingdom.
(PS there are two more son's, one that IS not, he is the prince of the 7th
terrible beast kingdom.
And then there is that last heir or last one the tail of this dragon image
kingdom, and he IS the -ONE-that "IS", he is the one of the 8th kingdom yet
he came by way of the former ie the 7th.....
SEVEN TIMES MUST PASS OVER said Daniel before the the golden
head/King/ONE/human Sun of Babel will be restored....
The seventh must end, must passover (See Daniel), he is slain and ariseth
not as many say he will, but one of the prince of the seventh head/age)
blood shall take the throne of this 7th head prince, and through flatteries
shall he be seated as KING, (I believe we are talking borthers here)but
though he is of the 7th which will passover, he never the less is not of the
royal bloodline of that THRONE which he takes by FLATERIES, that is why at
his seating as KING an entirely NEW KINGDOM emerges as a result.
Even though he is of the 7th he yet is not a true heir to it, only of it by
flatteries and his (Blood?) conncetion to the seventh head prince...does he
(this 8th one)succeed to the the throne of the 7th head prince's
dominion/throne.)
The harlot couldn't keep us like a hen under her wings in the days of
inquisition, later her power for doing inquisition was removed, so she found
another way to alter our faith and perceptions of the Word of God and his
many holy ones...what she did was mix lies with truth onto the table of God.
What she did was try to hide information regarding the God given prophecy
from our eyes.
creating a state of confussion...which is afterall exactly what "Babel"
means.
It has other far reaching effects, it has effectively scattered the lambs
and sheeps in many directions, to now we (sometimes) heatedly debate what is
truth and what is not, what is false teaching and what is not etc, we point
fingers at each other, and let loose our arrows upon one another as a
result, divided we have not the strength to stand upright, we fall instead
as the devoured prey.
(PS, the above statements are not directed at people's here but at us as
peoples in general, though I must confess the peoples here are less
agressive than most I have encountered elsewhere, for this I am most
grateful)
This seems to be the state for all those of Abraham's house, from the sons
to the bondservants etc.
The attack as it were, is or seems to be upon and directed at destroying
this house utterly and all that dwell within its walls under it's God.
This being the the real dark shadow that hovers over us all, this NWO
conspiracy, which many think has no bases what so ever, a conspiracy of
world leaders under a religious world leader ...all seen in Revelations
fornicating (acts of rebellion by those onced upon a time whom were born of
of the breath of God's spirit/wisdom, acts of rejection etc against God and
acts of adultery against God whom is the Bridegroom) those that left us and
God, found there way here in the great Harlot mother's scarlet bed.
I thought it was interesting considering there appears to be some revision of
the word Babel to Babylon from what I read in the above. Im not so interested
in the conspiracy theory but only in the revision and what was revised.
I was thinking does anyone know about these revisions.
I certainly brings to light some of the revisions that have been done to the
bible in fairly recent times.
all the best
sevens
Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:19 am
Hi Arch Michael,
You could be right, to be honest I don't know to much about Nostradamus', all
I'm doing is attempting to read into his quatrain based on my personal
experience to these submerged places. To see if there are some relevant
characteristics in the beforehand and in the recent past in the journey.
You could be right he could be all wrong. We have to see what occurs in the
future.
For all we know he could be proven right or wrong. Lets see what happens.
He could of been drugged up and documented what he felt he saw, I'm not sure
but I am sure it was a pure faith thing on his behalf. I'm sure he did this
for the benefit of mankind in the future. A benefit we could reap in todays
times.....maybe!
Although from what I heard, Nostradamus did good things in his life time,
apparently he helped to find the answer to the black plaque in Paris or some
work similar to that.
Its all speculation in faith until the cows come home and deliver what they
have for mankind. Thanks for you reply .
all the best
sevens
Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:19 am
Hi Arch Michael,
You could be right, to be honest I don't know to much about Nostradamus', all
I'm doing is attempting to read into his quatrain based on my personal
experience to these submerged places. To see if there are some relevant
characteristics in the beforehand and in the recent past in the journey.
You could be right he could be all wrong. We have to see what occurs in the
future.
For all we know he could be proven right or wrong. Lets see what happens.
He could of been drugged up and documented what he felt he saw, I'm not sure
but I am sure it was a pure faith thing on his behalf. I'm sure he did this
for the benefit of mankind in the future. A benefit we could reap in today's
times.....maybe!
Although from what I heard, Nostradamus did good things in his life time,
apparently he helped to find the answer to the black plaque in Paris or some
work similar to that. However I can relate to Nostradamus in sacrificing his
career to do what he thought was the will of the Father in his life, I suppose
it is a personal choice that all should respect. Like the choice we make in
our own life in what we sacrifice in doing the Will of the Father in our own
lives. It could be career or other things what ever the person feel is the
thing for him.
No man!! on second thoughts. Nostradamus was a Good guy, he loved his fellow
brother and compromised himself in risk to bring this information to the
future, in this day. His fruits bore good things for mankind. I can relate to
him in the way that when you discover a great planetary mystery of the past,
present and future that is linked to the Most High and Destiny. That's all you
want to do, that is persist in finding out the ultimate in the things of the
Father. In the journey as you feel you're being led and lock into the path and
when you start finding things at particular points you are just inspired to
walk more into the journey. In the journey of the Father things of the world
seem quite secondary including career and money because all you want to do is
find out more about the Father.
I am absolutely sure that Nostradamus went through the same experience where
things of the world seemed very secondary to him compared to the blessing he
received from his own personal journey, doing the will of the Father in his
life which I believe encompasses this journey to the ancient submerged cities,
from what I read and see in this path.
Funny thing, it could be in today's journey that we could see the full impact
of his Quatrains.
Its all speculation in faith until the cows come home and deliver what they
have for mankind. Thanks for you reply .
regards
Sevens
Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:12 am
Hi
Here is a study I did on the video I saw called the "The Jesus Tomb"
As usual I probably got carried away. I definitely have my own views on this
which is influenced by the UB rendition and does have interesting connections.
I relate and focalise it on the current journey to see if I can find
connections.
A little tidbit, The little child's tomb Judah, Son of Jeshua" From what I
know, Joseph dies in an accident while Mary was pregnant with Amos, according
to the UB. When Joseph died, Jesus became the head of the Family. He had to
become the Father figure. Unfortunately the Baby died at a young age. I'm
speculating that Little Amos was also nicknamed Judah as Amos the prophet came
from the "Southern Hill of Judah" So therefore you have Judah nicknamed for
Judah Son of Jeshua. No son of Mary Magdalene! It was not Jesus calling to
have family in the way of DNA.
This could be proven if the DNA of the child and Mary's bones matched.
With the research, the images is focused on symbolism but it interesting!
Note the thread to Jerusem, then to Dalamatia City to "an interesting place"
and the Capital of this Universe! Jerusem in description, common design and in
symbolism.
I am absolutely surprised with your post, completely amazed by those numbers
606. Ive used dj606 as a nickname for some time before I used sevens because
of
http://www.dalamatiacity.com which basically is a record of this journey.
I must admit its text and scripts everywhere and needs more work. However its
a journey which started 3 years and seven months on the run compiling the
research live as it happens. The reason I used 606 is from The Urantia Book
Here are some excerpts on search on "Planet 606" in the
Urantia Book
Quote:
PAPER 74 - ADAM AND EVE, Oct 19 2000
* line 39: This Jerusem pair left
behind them on the capital of Satania and elsewhere, one hundred
offspring--fifty sons and fifty daughters--magnificent creatures who had
escaped the pitfalls of progression, and who were all in commission as
faithful stewards of universe trust at the time of their parents' departure
for Urantia. And they were all present in the beautiful temple of the
Material Sons attendant upon the farewell exercises associated with the last
ceremonies of the bestowal acceptance. These children accompanied their
parents to the dematerialization headquarters of their order and were the
last to bid them farewell and divine speed as they fell asleep in the
personality lapse of consciousness which precedes the preparation for
seraphic transport. The children spent some time together at the family
rendezvous rejoicing that their parents were soon to become the visible
heads, in reality the sole rulers, of planet 606
in the system of Satania.
and
PAPER 62 - THE DAWN RACES OF EARLY MAN, Oct 19 2000
* line 129: It is just 993,408 years ago (from the year A.D. 1934)
that Urantia was formally recognized as a planet of human habitation in the
universe of Nebadon. Biologic evolution had once again achieved the human
levels of will dignity; man had arrived on planet
606 of Satania.
Incredible find and discovery in this time and the use 606 from an independent
source is quite intriguing.
But thats not the number of the Anti Christ..No way! This planet is the 606th
inhabited planet of this Universe Nebadon.
This interesting time space experience in truth in the journey
In this part of the journey I felt I saw 606 reflected in equal segments of
the discoveries of the ancient places and with a Seven in the middle. I made
up a timeline link to see it graphically, its in complete as there is still
Haggai end time prophecy to come in which is on the 24th September I think.
Maybe as we venture forth in the future more, connections in discovery may
occur.
I also want to say that at times I seem a little off tap, yeah well thats part
of it I suppose! I hope I haven't upset to many along the way. But I have put
a dead line with this, at around the end of September. and Seven days for good
measure!
Whatever the truth is in the matter I really want this to work for all mankind
and for us all. I'm not the expert in Doctrine, really. With Rapture see what
happens.
But I have all faith and thats the main thing and not matter how diverse we
are, we are all brothers in the sight of the living Father in the "Kingdom of
Heaven"
I'm just so inspired with the discovery and the multiple/multilevel
connections. But I am absolutely sure this is not the work of the Anti Christ,
No way everyone. This is a Jesus and The Father in Heaven project with all the
angels. Surely you can see this in the posts in all the connections a desire
to find the truth not to mention the discoveries along the way in the
timeline.. I really think this work could be for the future in case something
like Rapture happens. Least there is record left behind that I think would be
relevant and useful, thats if prophecy fulfills itself.
This is like the "III be back" but just read this!
in the meantime.
However, it would be good to follow up on the 606 element and see what other
connections may arise that is relevant. If we clicked on this in our own way
in the books we know best, thinking of the Jewish books theology, we could
come up some interesting stuff. I am so sure that there is much to be
uncovered in the books and also in the Catholic Vaults with other records very
first churches.
Even my email has 606 in it, what a laugh that one is! Amazing!
Here is a search on "Symbol 606" Interesting how technology relies on the
symbol 606.
"O'er the Distant Mountains Breaking"
by John S. B. Monsell, 1811-1875
1. O'er the distant mountains breaking
Comes the redd'ning dawn of day,
Rise, my soul, from sleep awaking;
Rise and sing and watch and pray.
'Tis thy Savior,
'Tis thy Savior, On His bright returning way.
2. O Thou Long-expected, weary
Waits my anxious soul for Thee;
Life is dark, and earth is dreary,
Where Thy light I do not see.
O my Savior,
O my Savior,
When wilt Thou return to me?
3. Nearer is my soul's salvation;
Spent the night, the day at hand.
Keep me in my lowly station,
Watching for Thee till I stand,
O my Savior,
O my Savior,
In Thy bright, Thy promised land.
4. With my lamp well trimmed and burning,
Swift to hear and slow to roam, Watching for Thy glad returning
To restore me to my home.
Come, my Savior,
Come, my Savior,
O my Savior, quickly come.
Hymn #606
The Lutheran Hymnal
Text: Matthew 24:42
Author: John S.B. Monsell, 1863, ab.
Composer: Johann G. Stoerl, 1711
Tune: "O Jerusalem, du Schoene"
and
Quote:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/poly/h3606.htm
H3606
כּל
כּוֹל kôl
kole
(Chaldee); corresponding to 3605 - all, any, + (forasmuch) as, + be- (for
this) cause, every, + no (manner, -ne), + there (where) -fore, + though,
what (where, who) -soever, (the) whole.
and
H3605
כּול כּל o
כּוֹל כּוֹל kôl kôl
kole, kole
From 3634 properly the whole; hence all, any or every (in the singular only,
but often in a plural sense): - (in) all (manner, [ye]), altogether, any
(manner), enough, every (one, place, thing), howsoever, as many as, [no-]
thing, ought, whatsoever, (the) whole, whoso (-ever).
Here is another interesting study on Rapture
Quote:
http://www.world-destiny.org/liftoff.htm
From the Urantia Papers, page 568:
"Techniques of terrestrial escape.
There is fundamentally only one way in which individual human life can be
initiated on the inhabited worlds, and that is through creature procreation
and natural birth; but there are numerous
techniques whereby man escapes his terrestrial status and gains access to
theinward moving stream of Paradise
ascenders
also
p.582
"While there is this dematerializing technique for preparing the
Adams for transit from Jerusem to the evolutionary worlds,
there is no equivalent method for taking them
away from such worlds unless the entire planet is to be emptied, in which
event emergency installation of the dematerialization technique is made for
the entire salvable population. If some
physical catastrophe should doom the planetary residence of an evolving
race,the Melchizedeks and the Life
Carriers would install the technique of dematerialization for all survivors,
and by seraphic transport these beings would be carried away to the new
world prepared for their continuing existence. The evolution of a
human race, once initiated on a world of space, must proceed quite
independently of the physical survival of that planet,
but during the evolutionary ages it is not
otherwise intended that a Planetary Adam or Eve shall leave their chosen
world."
spot on Rapture
Deut 30:1-6:
"And when all these things come upon you, the blessing and the curse, which
I have set before you, and you call them to mind among all the nations where
Yahweh your God has driven you, and return to Yahweh your God, you and your
children, and obey his voice in all that I command you this day, with all
your heart and with all your soul; then Yahweh your God will restore your
fortunes, and have compassion upon you, and he will gather you again from
all the peoples where Yahweh your God has scattered you. If your outcasts
are in the uttermost parts of heaven, from there Yahweh your God will gather
you, and from there he will fetch you; and Yahweh your God will bring
you into the land which your fathers possessed, that you may possess it; and
he will make you more prosperous and numerous than your fathers. And Yahweh
your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your offspring, so that
you will love Yahweh your God with all your heart and with all your soul,
that you may live.
I thought that was a spot on study.
interesting reading considering it was before 2000 and here we are in 2007, I
like some of things author is saying considering it was a while back where the
journey is more defined..
25:27 -- Then you shall say to them, Thus says Yahweh of hosts, the
God of Israel: Drink, be drunk and vomit, fall and rise no more, because of
the sword which I am sending among you.
25:28 -- And if they refuse to accept the cup
from your hand to drink, then you shall say to them, Thus says Yahweh of
hosts: You must drink!
25:29 -- For behold, I begin to work evil at the
city which is called by my name, and shall you go unpunished? You
shall not go unpunished, for I am summoning a sword against all the
inhabitants of the earth.
25:30 -- You, therefore, shall prophesy against them all these words, and
say to them: Yahweh will roar from on high, and
from his holy habitation utter his voice; he will roar mightily against his
fold, and shout, like those who tread grapes, against all the inhabitants of
the earth.
Jer 25:31-38 -- The clamor will resound to the ends of the earth, for Yahweh
has an indictment against the nations; he is
entering into judgment with all flesh, and the
wicked he will put to the sword.
Thus says Yahweh of hosts: Behold, evil is going forth from nation to
nation, and a great tempest is stirring from thefarthest parts of the earth! And those
slain by Yahweh on that day shall extend from one end of the earth to the
other. They shall not be lamented, or gathered, or buried; they shall be
dung on the surface of the ground.
Wail, you shepherds, and cry, and roll in ashes,
you lords of the flock, for the days of your slaughter and dispersion have
come, and you shall fall like choice rams. No refuge will remain for the
shepherds, nor escape for the lords of the flock.
Hark, the cry of the shepherds, and the wail of the lords of the flock! For
Yahweh is despoiling their pasture, and the
peaceful folds are devastated, because of his fierce anger. Like a
lion he has left his covert, for their land has become a waste because of
the sword of the oppressor, and because of his fierce anger.
think about it! and consider the current conversations in this timeline. I
would BRACE!
Quote:
Jer 25:12
MT: Then after seventy years are completed, I will punish the
king of Babylon and that nation, the land of the
Chaldeans, for their iniquity, says Yahweh, making the land an
everlasting waste.
LXX: And when the seventy years are fulfilled, I will take vengeance on that
nation, and will make them a perpetual desolation.
Is that The King of Babel in metaphor taken from Babylon and his main
follower? Is the "the land of the Chaldeans," Iran??
sevens
Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:12 am
Hi
Here is a study I did on the video I saw called the "The Tomb of Jesus "
As usual I probably got carried away. I definitely have my own views on this
which is influenced by the UB rendition and does have interesting connections.
I relate and focalise it on the current journey to see if I can find
connections.
A little tidbit, The little child's tomb Judah, Son of Jeshua" From what I
know, Joseph dies in an accident while Mary was pregnant with Amos, according
to the UB. When Joseph died, Jesus became the head of the Family. He had to
become the Father figure. Unfortunately the Baby died at a young age. I'm
speculating that Little Amos was also nicknamed Judah as Amos the prophet came
from the "Southern Hills of Judah" So therefore you have Amos nicknamed for
Judah Son of Jeshua. No son of Mary Magdalene! It was not Jesus calling to
have family in the way of DNA.
This could be proven if the DNA of the child and Mary's bones matched.
With the research, the images is focused on symbolism but it interesting!
Note the thread to Jerusem, then to Dalamatia City to "an interesting place"
and the Capital of this Universe! Jerusem in description, common design and in
symbolism.
And then I discovered this last night in reference to Judah and Amos. Maybe
the child was named Amos after the following verse but nicknamed Judah. So at
the end of the Day Amos nicknamed Judah, Son of Jeshua who was the father
figure and head of the Family after Joseph died in an accident.
Quote:
In Jeremiah 13 is a connection to Amos and
Judah Jer 1:3-6 -- "In the thirteenth year of Josias, son of Amos, king of
Judah,
the rest of the verses
even until this day for three-and twenty years, I have spoken
persistently to you,
rising early and speaking, and even though the LORD sent to you his
servants the prophets, sending them early;
(but you hearkened not, and listened not with your ears;) saying, 'Turn you
every one from his evil way, and from your evil practices, and you shall
dwell in the land which I gave to you and your
fathers, of old and for ever. Go you not after strange gods, to serve
them, and to worship them, that you provoke me not by the works of your
hands, to do you hurt. But you hearkened not to
me.'
Digging a little deeper in speculation.
Josias, son of Amos, king of Judah
Judah, son of Jesus (as on the bone box)
Amos, son of Jesus, King of Judah (UB Amos was the child name that died but
was probably named after the above verse, Jesus was head of the family then.)
Judah/Amos, son of Jesus.
Perhaps Amos was nicknamed Judah similar to how Jose was regarded as a
nickname, same principle.
Also the above verse appears to related to kingship "King of Judah" and maybe
through this child a little puzzle is created by the naming of the child. Who
does that? the head of the Family? Its really needs DNA testing, all the
bones. I'm thinking that even young Amos seems significant in this journey to
the places considering what the rest of verse reveals. Maybe this is another
message from the so called family tomb of Jesus.
Sevens
Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:39 pm
No man!! on second thoughts. Nostradamus was a
Good guy,
yes I'm for Nostradamus.
I would like to see for myself whether there is something in his quatrains.
Has anyone met Nostradamus to flame his behind?
I'm sure there are a few pastors these days that have used drugs. I wonder
about that.
Im sure that no ones perfect!
Also Mike
Quote:
Don't waste your precious time and energy on
such foolishness. Rather, spend that time studying something of
substance....like The Bible....
Mike without the Bible and the Urantia Book and other books, this journey
would not of been possible.
what's with the above, read the bible business, inflexible, uncompromising,
yet no one shows anything that convinces me otherwise, until someone can
demonstrate like with the ancient first places, I will keep on going on the
path.
All Ive seen is doctrine and more doctrine without any demonstration. Why
should I believe you, without seeing it for myself, why should I believe any
man with his doctrine!! ideas and speculation Knowing it came from an
organisation of man of some sort.
Im not going to believe anyone of there theories until they can demonstrate to
me and I can see it for myself with completion.
Thats what this test is all about putting up everything on the table to test
it as against the path of the first places, If you cant demostrate or what is
demonstrated fails.
Then, See ya later buddy! and that's is exactly what I think. Man is sick of
Junk doctrine that leads to death and plays in the hands of the Rebel through
division. Where no one demonstrates a thing.
I think mankind has had enough of junk doctrine and junk man that ultimately
leads to death and destruction through division. These first places and the
"Kingdom of Heaven" is going to rid of junk doctrine and the junk people that
promotes untested information that never goes beyond speculation but has a
devastating effect on man in some cases. Like these failed religions and
states where great massacres happen in the name of God but is really a money
making venture at the end of the day.
Im not talking about Iraq. Even though I feel Iran sees Iraq as an ultimate
prize.
sevens
Hey No worries Mike.
I look forward to the person your speaking about. That would be a God send.
I wish that person comes soon, if I can make his job easier I would be happy
to do so!
But hey we walk in faith and trusting in the Lord that he is guiding us and
sure we all have our individual thoughts and all of us are doing there best in
the personal journey.
Hey if the expected person to clarify the truth is around, I invite
wholeheartedly to join in and help us.
I thought the test of everything in relation to first ancient places was
perfect in the sense that books say its there or make subtle references to it,
so why not test it out to see the truth for itself. Mind you in doing this I'm
testing the Urantia Book mainly. In all honesty its the Urantia Book that is
being tested to its fullest extent in the physical.
So really I say lets test the UB in by doing an expedition to Dalamatia City
and test all the information about this place. Lets put the UB on the firing
line since its the most recent revelation in this time and speaks of these
places. By doing this we are also inviting the Father since its his books in
essence!
Actually I offer an invitation to the Father, Jesus, the Melchizedeks and all
the Seraphim's and other angels and the star students to be part of this
testing of the books in the journey to the ancient places. I want the Father
to be part of this!
I invite everyone! I really want the universe to be part of this great story
in every aspect as seen in prophecy! If this is the true story of the planet
then I feel rapture will occur and be honored. Its part of the 7th Mystery I'm
sure it is! I'm sure we are really close!!! I feel it in my heart!
Since I found reflections in all the other Books including the Bible lets put
them up for testing as well. Personally from what I see and from what I
experienced in this journey. I am 100% all books with relevance will pass the
test, all of them capture the great moment but in parts. But when gathered
together, combined and harmonized paints a very beautiful picture worthy of
rapture occurs. Regardless of doctrine agree or not I think this journey to
the ancient places combined with all the messages is worthy of rapture!
Just a thought.
I was thinking something like this in this journey could be a very beautiful
opportunity for the faith sons of normal folk to be part of history that will
sustain itself forever. The great blessings of Paradise are open for normal
folk as like in the parable of the feast.
This could be on coming of the feast you know!
I feel the doors of Paradise are open with this most gracious invitation to
the faith sons the elect whoever they are.
all the best Mike.
sevens
Well
If rapture from my own observations is part of this journey. Well I sign
standing tall and confident and I know that anyone that even halfheartedly has
faith will enjoin in the feast!
I know it a bold thing to say but I feel rapture would be the second stage of
this 40 day test that was on the earth!. Where heaven abodes would be prepared.
The third part would coming back as the elect and the the witnesses.
Regardless of doctrine agree of not this rapture would be the most logical part
in the lifting the ante in the greater message to mankind in the journey to the
ancient places. It just makes sense to me and I can see it happening. It might
occur to wake man up because I don't think man is awakening to the what has been
activated in the search for the ancient places.
It just makes me think that the voice of God will come from the abyss. I would
suggest the ancient first places that contain the real history of this planet
with a message for us and rapture might very well part of the message and what
is to come!
If all is correct, it is good that a record is left behind so it could be
studied of what was in the beforehand but in future case looking back to the
beforehand that is past. I'm not sure for how long the website might be up
though. I personally think if such was the case, divine translation would be the
true confirmation of all the information and would stand tall, solid and
unbreakable.
I think Rapture is a sure option and really speaking I think this journey and
the ancient places is the only thing on the planet that is closest to rapture in
the research, discovery and journey.
Sevens
Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:00 pm
In the following is from Enoch Chapter 10 and
looking at it in metaphor to this times. I see similar characteristics of this
journey. Also I see curious thing that I feel points to a rapture where the
earth is goes through earth changes. Read the end of Chapter 10. It describes
this journey.
Dont mind links and earlier thoughts in between.
Quote:
Chapter 10
1 Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spake, and sent Uriel to
the son of Lamech, 2 and said to him: 'Go to Noah and tell him in my name
"Hide thyself!" and reveal to him the end that is
approaching: that the whole earth will be
destroyed, and a deluge is about to come 3 upon the whole earth, and will
destroy all that is on it.
I believe this thesis of the Noah story
An interesting thesis on the relationship of the Noah Story, The Bible and
the Eastern Mediterranean deluge
Additional research
Plato's description of Atlantis in point form.
And now instruct him that he may escape 4 and his seed may be
preserved for all the generations of the world.' And again the Lord said to
Raphael: 'Bind Azazel hand and foot, and cast him into the darkness: and
make an opening 5 in the desert, which is in
Dudael, and cast him therein. And place upon him rough and jagged
rocks, and cover him with darkness, and let him abide there for ever, and
cover his face that he may 6,7 not see light. And
on the day of the great judgement he shall be cast into the fire.
And heal the earth which the angels have corrupted, and proclaim the healing
of the earth, that they may heal the plague, and that all the children of
men may not perish through all the secret things that the
8 Watchers have disclosed and have taught their sons. And the whole earth
has been corrupted 9 through the works that were taught by Azazel: to him
ascribe all sin.'
The call, Judgment of the latter days in essence given over 2300 years ago
And to Gabriel said the Lord: 'Proceed against the bastards and the
reprobates, and against the children of fornication: and destroy [the
children of fornication and] the children of the Watchers from amongst men
[and cause them to go forth]: send them one against the other that they may
destroy each other in 10 battle: for length of days shall they not have. And
no request that they (i.e. their fathers) make of thee shall be granted unto
their fathers on their behalf; for they hope to live an eternal life, and 11
that each one of them will live five hundred years.' And the Lord said unto
Michael: 'Go, bind Semjaza and his associates who have united themselves
with women so as to have defiled themselves
12 with them in all their uncleanness. And when their sons have slain one
another, and they have seen the destruction of their beloved ones, bind them
fast for seventy generations in the valleys
of the earth, till the day of their judgement and of their consummation,
till the judgement that is
13 for ever and ever is consummated.
In those days they shall beled
off to the abyss
of fire: and 14 to
the torment and the prison in which they shall be confined for ever.
And whosoever shall be condemned and destroyed will from thenceforth be
bound together with them to the end of all 15 generations. And destroy all
the spirits of the reprobate and the children of the Watchers, because 16
they have wronged mankind. Destroy all wrong from the face of the earth and
let every evil work come to an end:
In the following is information concerning the tree of life at the end of
the epoch.
and let the plant of
righteousness and
truth appear:
("tree of life" Jesus prophecy) and
it shall prove
a blessing; the works of righteousness and truth'
shall be planted in truth and joy for evermore.
17 And then shall
all the righteous escape,
And shall live till they beget thousands of
children,And all the days of their youth
and their old age Shall they complete in peace. 18
And then shall the whole earth be tilled in
righteousness, and shall all be planted with trees and 19 be full of
blessing. And all desirable trees shall be planted on it, and they
shall plant vines on it: and the vine which they plant thereon shall yield
wine in abundance, and as for all the seed which is sown thereon each
measure (of it) shall bear a thousand, and each measure of olives shall
yield 20 ten presses of oil. And cleanse thou the earth from all oppression,
and from all unrighteousness, and from all sin, and from all godlessness:
and all the uncleanness that is wrought upon the earth 21 destroy from off
the earth. And all the children of men shall become righteous, and all
nations 22 shall offer adoration and shall praise Me, and all shall worship
Me. And the earth shall be cleansed from all defilement, and from all sin,
and from all punishment, and from all torment, and I will never again send
(them) upon it from generation to generation and
for ever.
Is this prophecy currently being fulfilled?? revelation 10 20 Daniel 2 Jesus
prophecy 1st Eden/Atlantis discovery The Urantia Papers new books
Chapter 11
1 And in those days
I will open the store chambers of blessing which are in the heaven,
so as to send 2 them down upon the earth over the
work and labour of the children of men. And
truth and peace shall be
associated together throughout
all the days of the world and throughout
all the generations of men.'
It seems to me that something from the realms of Paradise is presented that
proves itself. Then the righteousness will escape which points to this exact
point in time in the flow and ebb of the conversation and in the discoveries
and the images.
Really speaking an expedition has to be performed to prove this research, it
appears to me its proven in the images as we view the anomalies. However
Nostradamus specifically points to the artificial images and in another area
points to 2 expedition that went to 1stEden where the second one ran out of
supplies, meaning money. He also makes reference to the Elysian fields which
involves Dilmun but could involve Dalamatia City and the massive structures.
http://dalamatiacity.com/eden/book_of_enoch.htm
all the best
sevens
posted
08-25-2007 06:15 PM
Also here is knowledge from the
Urantia Book regarding terrestial escape. Its an option and does relate to
translation which is rapture in the other dimension.
"Techniques of terrestrial escape. There is fundamentally only one way in which
individual human life can be initiated on the inhabited worlds, and that is
through creature procreation and natural birth; but there are numerous
techniques whereby man escapes his terrestrial status and gains access to the
inward moving stream of Paradise ascenders
also
p.582
"While there is this dematerializing technique for preparing the Adams for
transit from Jerusem to the evolutionary worlds, there is no equivalent method
for taking them away from such worlds unless the entire planet is to be emptied,
in which event emergency installation of the dematerialization technique is
made for the entire salvable population.
If some physical catastrophe should doom the planetary residence of an evolving
race, the Melchizedeks and the Life Carriers would install the technique of
dematerialization for all survivors, and by seraphic transport these beings
would be carried away to the new world prepared for their continuing existence.
The evolution of a human race, once initiated on a world of space, must proceed
quite independently of the physical survival of that planet, but during the
evolutionary ages it is not otherwise intended that a Planetary Adam or Eve
shall leave their chosen world."
spot on RAPTURE
Deut 30:1-6:
"And when all these things come upon you, the blessing and the curse, which I
have set before you, and you call them to mind among all the nations where
Yahweh your God has driven you, and return to Yahweh your God, you and your
children, and obey his voice in all that I command you this day, with all your
heart and with all your soul; then Yahweh your God will restore your fortunes,
and have compassion upon you, and he will gather you again from all the peoples
where Yahweh your God has scattered you. If your outcasts are in the uttermost
parts of heaven, from there Yahweh your God will gather you, and from there
he will fetch you; and Yahweh your God will bring you into the land which
your fathers possessed, that you may possess it; and he will make you more
prosperous and numerous than your fathers. And Yahweh your God will circumcise
your heart and the heart of your offspring, so that you will love Yahweh your
God with all your heart and with all your soul, that you may live.
posted
08-25-2007 06:15 PM
Also here is knowledge from the
Urantia Book regarding terrestial escape. Its an option and does relate to
translation which is rapture in the other dimension.
quote:
From the Urantia Papers, page 568:
"Techniques of terrestrial escape. There is fundamentally only one way in
which individual human life can be initiated on the inhabited worlds, and that
is through creature procreation and natural birth; but there are numerous
techniques whereby man escapes his terrestrial status and gains access to the
inward moving stream of Paradise ascenders
also
quote:
p.582
"While there is this dematerializing technique for preparing the Adams for
transit from Jerusem to the evolutionary worlds, there is no equivalent method
for taking them away from such worlds unless the entire planet is to be
emptied, in which event emergency installation of the dematerialization
technique is made for the entire salvable population.
If some physical catastrophe should doom the planetary residence of an
evolving race, the Melchizedeks and the Life Carriers would install the
technique of dematerialization for all survivors, and by seraphic transport
these beings would be carried away to the new world prepared for their
continuing existence.
The evolution of a human race, once initiated on a world of space, must
proceed quite independently of the physical survival of that planet, but
during the evolutionary ages it is not otherwise intended that a Planetary
Adam or Eve shall leave their chosen world."
spot on RAPTURE
In the following I see in metaphor to the journey to the ancient places in the
Persian Gulf and in terms of rapture and the promises of the Father in the
"Kingdom of Heaven"
quote:
Deut 30:1-6:
"And when all these things come upon you, the blessing and the curse, which
I have set before you, and you call them to mind among all the nations
where Yahweh your God has driven you, and return to Yahweh your God, you
and your children, and obey his voice in all that I command you this day, with
all your heart and with all your soul; then Yahweh your God will restore your
fortunes, and have compassion upon you, and he will gather you again from
all the peoples where Yahweh your God has scattered you. If your outcasts are
in the uttermost parts of heaven, from there Yahweh your God will gather you,
and from there he will fetch you; (Rapture in metaphor) and Yahweh your
God will bring you into the land which your fathers possessed, that you may
possess it; and he will make you more prosperous and numerous than your
fathers. And Yahweh your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of
your offspring, so that you will love Yahweh your God with all your heart and
with all your soul, that you may live.
I see much in the authors research considering he was not aware of the ancient
places and its significants to the planetary mystery.
the blessing and the curse, which I have set before you A reflection of
the current test of mankind?? In this time.
In this case we are not talking about a looming catastrophe of the planet. We
are talking about judgment and adjudication of the rebels and there seed. I
don't think Paradise is interesting in the Seed of the rebels and the damage
they have caused .
I seriously think that the salvable population in this case of Urantia is people
of Faith, simple faith and who love for one another and follow the 10
commandment or the Seven commands.
That I think its the standard.
Here is the Urantia Book standard of personality survival for this time of
oncoming crisis.
As to the chances of mortal survival, let it be made forever clear: All souls
of every possible phase of mortal existence will survive provided they manifest
willingness to co-operate with their indwelling Adjusters and exhibit a desire
to find God and to attain divine perfection, even though these desires be but
the first faint flickers of the primitive comprehension of that "true light
which lights every man who comes into the world."
and the following is also a very
strong probability of Jesus being involved in this journey to the ancient
places. I know from the Urantia Book Jesus was very interested in Archeology and
history whereby he extended his stay in Ur for 2 weeks of Ur. Jesus in this case
would be very very interested in the ruins we see and this journey. I have no
doubt of that.
quote:
PAPER 170 - THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN,
Oct 19 2000
* line 128: Although Jesus referred one phase of the kingdom to the future
and did, on numerous occasions, intimate that such an event might appear as
a part of a world crisis ; and though he did likewise most certainly, on
several occasions, definitely promise sometime to return to Urantia, it
should be recorded that he never positively linked these two ideas together.
He promised a new revelation of the kingdom on earth and at some future
time; he also promised sometime to come back to this world in person;
but he did not say that these two events were synonymous.From all we
know these promises may, or may not, refer to the same event
PA new revelation which has been
fulfilled and world crisis. I they are synonymous and connected because it has
all to do with adjudication and the correction. It would all have to be
connected. Totaly! I cant imagine it not!
It seems to me that many movie seem to
have subtle reflections to the changes and the things that are occurring.
In the journey to the ancient places I feel rapture is a viable option and the
most logical thing to happen.
Here is something I rediscovered and posted last night out of Enoch.
In the following is from Enoch Chapter 10 and looking at it in metaphor to this
times. I see similar characteristics of this journey. Also I see curious thing
that I feel points to a rapture where the earth is goes through earth changes.
Read the end of Chapter 10. It describes this journey.
Dont mind links and earlier thoughts in between.
quote:
Chapter 10
1 Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spake, and sent Uriel to
the son of Lamech, 2 and said to him: 'Go to Noah and tell him in my name
"Hide thyself!" and reveal to him the end that is approaching: that the
whole earth will be destroyed, and a deluge is about to come 3 upon the whole
earth, and will destroy all that is on it.
I believe this thesis of the Noah story
An interesting thesis on the relationship of the Noah Story, The Bible and the
Eastern Mediterranean deluge
Additional research
Plato's description of Atlantis in point form.
And now instruct him that he may ""escape"" 4
and his seed may be preserved for all the generations of the world.' And
again the Lord said to Raphael: 'Bind Azazel hand and foot, and cast him into
the darkness: and make an opening 5 in the desert, which is in Dudael, and
cast him therein. And place upon him rough and jagged rocks, and cover him
with darkness, and let him abide there for ever, and cover his face that he
may 6,7 not see light. And on the day of the great
judgement he shall be cast into the fire.
And heal the earth which the angels have corrupted, and proclaim the healing
of the earth, that they may heal the plague, and that all the children of men
may not perish through all the secret things that the
8 Watchers have disclosed and have taught their sons. And the whole earth has
been corrupted 9 through the works that were taught by Azazel: to him ascribe
all sin.'
The call, Judgment of the latter days in essence given over 2300 years ago
And to Gabriel said the Lord: 'Proceed against the bastards and the
reprobates, and against the children of fornication: and destroy [the children
of fornication and] the children of the Watchers from amongst men [and cause
them to go forth]: send them one against the other that they may destroy each
other in 10 battle: for length of days shall they not have. And no request
that they (i.e. their fathers) make of thee shall be granted unto their
fathers on their behalf; for they hope to live an eternal life, and 11 that
each one of them will live five hundred years.' And the Lord said
unto Michael: 'Go, bind Semjaza and his
associates who have united themselves with women so as to have defiled
themselves
12 with them in all their uncleanness. And when their sons have slain one
another, and they have seen the destruction of their beloved ones, bind them
fast for seventy generations in the valleys of the earth, till the day of
their judgement and of their consummation, till the judgement that is
13 for ever and ever is consummated. In those days they shall be ""led
off"" to ""the abyss"" of fire: and 14
to the torment and the prison in which they shall be confined for ever. (the
test ?? and rejecting it perhaps!)
And whosoever shall be condemned and destroyed will from thenceforth be bound
together with them to the end of all 15 generations. And destroy all the
spirits of the reprobate and the children of the Watchers, because 16 they
have wronged mankind. Destroy all wrong from the face of the earth and let
every evil work come to an end:
In the following is information concerning the tree of life at the end of the
epoch.
and let the plant of righteousness and
truth appear: ("tree of life" Jesus prophecy)
and it shall prove a blessing; the
works of righteousness and truth'
shall be planted in truth and joy for evermore.
17 And then shall all ""the righteous escape""
And shall live till they beget thousands of children, And all the days of
their youth and their old age Shall they complete in peace. 18 ]And then shall
the whole earth be tilled in righteousness, and shall all be planted with
trees and 19 be full of blessing. And all desirable trees shall be planted on
it, and they shall plant vines on it: and the vine which they plant thereon
shall yield wine in abundance, and as for all the seed which is sown thereon
each measure (of it) shall bear a thousand, and each measure of olives shall
yield 20 ten presses of oil. And cleanse thou the earth from all oppression,
and from all unrighteousness, and from all sin, and from all godlessness: and
all the uncleanness that is wrought upon the earth 21 destroy from off the
earth. And all the children of men shall become righteous, and all nations 22
shall offer adoration and shall praise Me, and all shall worship Me. And the
earth shall be cleansed from all defilement, and from all sin, and from all
punishment, and from all torment, and I will never again send (them) upon it
from generation to generation and for ever.
Is this prophecy currently being fulfilled?? revelation 10 20 Daniel 2 Jesus
prophecy 1st Eden/Atlantis discovery The Urantia Papers new books
Chapter 11
1 And in those days I will open the store chambers of blessing which are in
the heaven, so as to send 2 them down upon the earth over the work and labour
of the children of men. And truth and peace shall be associated together
throughout all the days of the world and throughout all the generations of
men.'
It seems to me that something from the
realms of Paradise is presented that proves itself. Then the righteousness will
escape which points to this exact point in time in the flow and ebb of the
conversation and in the discoveries and the images.
Really speaking an expedition has to be performed to prove this research, it
appears to me its proven in the images as we view the anomalies. However
Nostradamus specifically points to the artificial images and in another area
points to 2 expedition that went to 1stEden where the second one ran out of
supplies, meaning money. He also makes reference to the Elysian fields which
involves Dilmun but could involve Dalamatia City and the massive structures.
1 Before these things Enoch was hidden, and no one of the children of men
knew where he was 2 hidden, and where he abode, and what had become of him
and
and let every evil work come to an end: and let the plant of righteousness
and truth appear:
The exact reflections of the journey to the ancient places, these temples of the
Father 1stEden and Dalamatia are a direct connection to the knowledge of the
tree of life. Truth Appears, which is exactly what has happened in this journey
and discoveries where the truth just appears out of nowhere and comes to a final
construct at the end and thats the end.
The truth just appears.
This is also related to a thing of a work of truth and righteousness. Where what
is set before man will prove itself.
and it shall prove a blessing;
For many but it may prove to be a curse for some.
It will prove itself in Truth and Righteousness where the truth will appear and
will prove itself.
I suggest the ancient places and the journey and the discoveries along the way
which has direct connection to the Urantia Book and all the books of religion
that is relevant and that includes quite a number from numerous cultures.
all the best
sevens
The Land of the Rising Sun, reflections of
Babel/Dilmun in the North or Dilmun of the East
Quote:
Rev 7:217
2 Then I saw another angel ascend from the rising of
the sun, with the seal of the
living God, and he called with a loud voice to the four angels who
had been given power to harm earth and sea,
3 saying, "Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, till we
have sealed the servants of our God upon their foreheads."
4 And I heard the number of the sealed, a hundred and forty four
thousand sealed, out of every tribe of the sons of Israel,
Could the above be directly connected with this Journey and discovery of the
Ancient places in the connection of "another angel ascend from the
rising of the sun" particularly the term "rising of the sun"
Could this term be linked to the references to Dilmun in its relation to "the
rising of the sun". Could this journey and what is uncovered as in the cities
of the rising sun, the seal, and its through the test of faith, that the elect
of 144,000 as mentioned in the Revelations that are selected and caught up
with God ready for the new world.
References "to the rising sun" seal which I think is the
seventh mystery and the submerged cities.
Another reference
Quote:
"Isaiah 42 25 I have raised up one from the
north, and he shall come: from the rising of the sun shall he
call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon morter, and as the
potter treadeth clay."
another from Isaiah
Quote:
6 That they may know from
the rising of the sun, and from the west,
that there is none beside me. I am the Lord, and there is none else
Here is another from an unexpected source
Quote:
Abu Hurairah said,
"The Prophet (sal-Allaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) said, 'There are three
things which, when they appear, no good will it do a soul to believe in
them then, if it believed not before nor earned righteousness through its
Faith. They are: The Dajjaal, the Beast, and the rising of the sun from the west.'
that was interesting
Malachi 1 11 For from the rising of the sun
even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the
Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure
offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the Lord of
hosts
nostradamus
Quote:
The royal bird over the city of the
Sun, (Dalamatia image) Seven months in advance it will deliver a nocturnal omen:
The Sumerian's about Dilmun
Dilmun, sometimes described as "the place where the sun rises"
and "the Land of the Living" is the scene of a Sumerian
creation myth and the place where the deified Sumerian hero of the flood,
Ziusudra (Utnapishtim), was taken by the gods to live for ever.
Note the connection Sumerian Noah, Babel was built in Dilmun. The seal is
connected to these cities that are arising in truth.
sevens
Hey from my research I think we are in this
moment.
Not scare mongering or anything like that. But the discovery of the first cities
are part of this and the indictment is originating from these places.
No crap
THE TERMINAL EVENTS
25:27 -- Then you shall say to them, Thus says Yahweh of hosts, the God of
Israel: Drink, be drunk and vomit, fall and rise no more, because of the sword
which I am sending among you.
25:28 -- And if they refuse to accept the cup from your hand to drink, then you
shall say to them, Thus says Yahweh of hosts: You must drink!
25:29 -- For behold, I begin to work evil at the city which is called by my
name, and shall you go unpunished? You shall not go unpunished, for I am
summoning a sword against all the inhabitants of the earth.
25:30 -- You, therefore, shall prophesy against them all these words, and say to
them: Yahweh will roar from on high, and from his holy habitation utter his
voice; he will roar mightily against his fold, and shout, like those who tread
grapes, against all the inhabitants of the earth.
Jer 25:31-38 -- The clamor will resound to the ends of the earth, for Yahweh has
an indictment against the nations; he is entering into judgment with all flesh,
and the wicked he will put to the sword.
Thus says Yahweh of hosts: Behold, evil is going forth from nation to nation,
and a great tempest is stirring from the farthest parts of the earth! And those
slain by Yahweh on that day shall extend from one end of the earth to the other.
They shall not be lamented, or gathered, or buried; they shall be dung on the
surface of the ground.
Wail, you shepherds, and cry, and roll in ashes, you lords of the flock, for the
days of your slaughter and dispersion have come, and you shall fall like choice
rams. No refuge will remain for the shepherds, nor escape for the lords of the
flock.
Hark, the cry of the shepherds, and the wail of the lords of the flock! For
Yahweh is despoiling their pasture, and the peaceful folds are devastated,
because of his fierce anger. Like a lion he has left his covert, for their land
has become a waste because of the sword of the oppressor, and because of his
fierce anger.
I think the second stage is translation and those left behind will really feel
it, in there souls and the fire within ones soul will be very evident. Everyone
will miss everyone and there will be much sorrow in this event.
Unfortunately, the last rebel may be given more rope, that means a change I
think for the worse. I think the world will make some false alliance in light of
the event but will be broken and may lead to war. But then thats the interesting
part, thats when a great return is predicted and the great judgment occurs.
Those who haven't reconciled themselves see ya later. That was the last train to
Paradise on earth and then great earth changes occur.
There could be variation but this what I feel at the moment.
good luck all!
I want to add that.
Ive been thinking about all those UFOs you see in the skies I believe are they
seraphic transports that can enter in and escape out of this dimension into the
Angelic realm of existence. I am absolutely sure they here on mass for a
purpose. perhaps even rapture in the first stage. Thinking about these
transports, they are made of a different material similar to Paul's description
of another greater substance. In the other realm there are more elements that
make up wider selection of materials. Thats why the metals that have been
recovered are not found in this dimension and are not recognized.
Rapture or translation is necessary for humans for space travel to an
architectural world in the other dimension reality. It is a world that is
prepared for the elect of this planet. Faith Sons of the Father, that can be
anyone who has faith no matter who. The Paradise invitation is open to all who
has faith. Simple faith, faith of a child that is teachable and spiritually
coherent and has desire through inspiration of truth, setting you free.
If this happens in this timing those left behind who never had faith are left
here to deal with everything thats pretty well bad on all accounts with every
nation.
Thats largely due to false sophistry sought after by man given by Caligastia the
last remaining rebel in the spiritual realm. Thats why he was left on the planet
solely to see his final outcome and so that man can see the rebel for himself
and know the truth, for his eyes only.
Some societies in past maybe connected to this and gained knowledge and used the
knowledge for self gain and we see the results like in the state of the planet
and rumors of war going around not to mention all the suicide terrorism.
But then everything comes good for the Father in the end, and everything returns
to him in truth.
Here is some research by a UB researcher about
Seraphic transports and perhaps may give more of an idea about the Seraphic
transports we see or UFOs man sees in the sky.
If you look in the tomb of Jesus' family ?? you the same shape www or mmm shape
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/tomb5.jpg
Then if you look at this Sumerian Seal you see the same effect
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/uranti3.jpg
then if you look above the face of Mars you see a similar effect
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/mars_triangles.jpg
All this shape and design goes back to Jerusem the Capital of the Universe.
Re: Do You Believe There
Is Massive Impending Doom For Humanity?Quote
I research this because I really enjoy it and leads to something very solid as
in real discoveries in the prophetical timeline and its just something that is
beyond this realm.
Plus in this journey I leave the shores mediocrity, small mindedness and shallow
thoughts into something quite phenomenal that is planetary and quite deep in
greater understanding. If this affect my fellow man, III tell him if it may
effect him.
all found in all the books of religion in all the cultures.
Everyone had a piece of the end time.
Like a puzzle completed.
posted
08-28-2007 03:20 AM
Hey seek
No worries about the Urantia Book. I would be happy to share this book with you.
I read it 15 or 14 years ago, it took me 5 weeks uninterrupted reading 6-7 hours
a day. It was the most inspiring read for me especially when I read about 1st
Garden of Eden, that was when I really had a desire to find the lost Garden.
However, some years later down the track I was really inspired to see that
Robert Sarmast was heading directly towards the Garden in a Book called
Discovery of Atlantis coupled with an expedition a year later. After 2
expeditions he verified the wall that was described in The Urantia Book.
Even the journey right from the beginning that led to the book and the journey
towards 1stEden was amazing and how things manifested through faith.
However, after the 2nd Expedition the journey continued on. The path of the
journey then took an amazing turn into the scriptures by myself to see if I
could find reflections of the ancient places in the Bible and all the books of
religion I could find even the Quran.
Going through journey and being led the whole way in the books focalising on the
ancient places only I found the most amazing connections and parallels.
That just made all sense to me, The journey went all over the place on many
levels. Finding connections and parallel completely and utterly inspired deep
within my soul. The Holy Spirit has sustained me all the way as I was going
through a major crisis because of a loss of a relationship and someone whom I
loved very much. That took about 10 years to get over that whilst doing the
research simultaneously to the ancient places was my salvation.
I can truly say that in all my hardship through the journey, The Father has
sustained me the whole through inspiration, discovery and finding great secrets,
mysteries and connections, he was truly faithful to me even when I made mistakes
in my life and ventured to change my ways as best as I could he helped me
through the books of religion and through the inward experience. The Father and
all the angels where truly faithful and blessed beyond my wildest dreams.
I feel all is arising even as I write this testimony. I am very thankful to the
Father and Jesus and Holy Spirit for helping me out in my time of personal
crisis and depression and I can truly say that I love him much in all aspect.
The Father is truly a great friend. Right on!
Thanks God.
It was 3 years and Seven months that I truly began to document my little finds,
it was slow because I had to pick up threads which relates to the point of
realization of the significants of a discovery.
In the beginning they were little finds and discoveries mainly of location,
description of the area, to see if there where parallels and after a while I
started to find purpose and meaning whilst finding more about the background as
reflected in the books.
That has always continued and has never stopped and now the research tells me
that we are at crucial stage in the journey. Like in rapture.
Most of the time I'm on forums copying everything that I write. I find realizing
on the run has been very fruitful as it makes you study and find things to back
up your thoughts and hunches.
Its when you discover parallels and connections that you are just in awe and in
real joy.
Anyway thats what the urantia Book has done for me
Re: Affirmation: NESARA
and First Contact Updates.Quote
Here is a timeline that Ive been working with in my research.
My research also shows me that September of this year 07 is the Month of another
phase in this transition. I believe it will be decision time based on faith and
is directly connected to the submerged first places. It could be time mass
translation.
The Image is yet incomplete Malachi is involved in this and his prophecy
finishes in September 24th.
The difference is the Sun is fusion rather different to our current technology.
Would fusion be the positive alternative to destruction. Where we fuse energy
rather than separate it. Even by manipulating the radial spin of the ultimaton
does approach anti matter. Maybe that is the key increasing the radial spin and
shortening the radius of the 3 rings of ultimatons that cluster and orbit the
nucleus.
Ultimatons is what makes an electron.
There are 3 distinct orbits from the heaviest to the lightest. In the center the
spin nears the speed of light and is where Paradise exists. In the central part.
I believe the new energy source for the planet is anti matter by the varying of
radial spin and radius of these ultimatons that make up the electron.
By increasing the spin would accelerate the general spin of the ultimaton and
then by varying the radius of the orbit would speed the electron and therefore
give off energy tapping into antimatter. The reverse to matter, this would
therefore give out energy through the loss of matter.
Anyway I reckon that's where the answer lays digging into the antimatter section
of the electron and trading matter for energy through the variation of spin and
radius, like spinning off energy from a spinning top. In this case we speed the
top to the point of antimatter peeling of energy as a spin off.
All you would be doing is applying a technique that would add to the momentum of
the spin of the ultimaton that would alone increase the spin, with increased
spin of the ultimaton which would affect the radius of its orbit. The heavy
elements would give of energy peeling of one layer after another when you come
to the paradise section, the antimatter part, the eternal part, the timeless
part. Taping into the eternal, never ending streaming of energy of antimatter
direct from Paradise.
Anyway I thought that sounded cool where much of it has been inspired by the UB.
Sevens
posted
08-29-2007 07:31 PM
I was thinking ultimaton.
Apparently in its evolution its pussiant energy ultimately changes where
ultimatons form. As the spin rate of these ultimatons slow down and huddle
together they form matter.
So matter is related to the radial spin rate of the ultimatons increase the spin
rate and you have antimatter. Perhaps if you slow down the spin rate matter gets
heavier and therefore may disrupt energy. Its like peeling of energy as said
before in the way of harnessing it. If a technique of this could developed we
could be living of antimatter by increasing the momentum of matter or may be the
trick is in by speeding up spin to the antimatter elements.
There all thoughts for energy harnessing from Paradise in the new world of the
"Kingdom of Heaven of earth"
All ideas are welcome for new energy for the new world.
I found this Gem in Ezra, I'm not sure of the
chapter, I found in my research. To me it describes everything about this
journey. to a tee.
Quote:
[22] If then I have found favor before thee, send the Holy Spirit
into me, and I will write everything that has
happened in the world from the beginning, the things which were written in
thy law, that men may be able to find the
path, and that those who wish to live in
the last days may live."
Well thats is exactly the case in this journey, for sure 100%. This is a
definite thread or path to investigate. I reckon!
Its quite astonishing how it reflects everything in the journey. It amazing
rediscovering something from the past that fulfills everything that has
happened.
sevens
Posted:
Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:14 am Post subject:
maybe the one pointing the
finger should observe oneself from a third party point of view rather than the
superior and above than thou attitude.
Or is that to much and prejudice to see that??
or was that he without attitude cast the first stone?? say what? haha
sevens
Posted:
Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:31 am Post subject:
Quote:
humanity still needs rules and
rule enforcement to prevent us from hurting each other.
pity about that when the UB speaks of self regulation.
and
Quote:
That Charges $$$ Money for
Spiritual Advice .
its interesting that Jesus speaks rather firm about combining spiritual and
obtaining money through the spiritual. I suppose its a kin to receiving
commission on a sale. People have a tendency to compromise there trust to the
client for best deal because of the fat commissions, its a similar situation we
have with the sub prime market, the drive for extra commission, the self drive
that brought the industry to its knees and will get worse.
Because man went for the jugular in his efforts to reap as much as he could get
there compromising the client.
Is suppose big money and the influence of people through the spiritual would be
like a drug that a leader could get addicted to. Money, power and influence with
a motive a self sustainment but at a severe cost for the client.
That's why I'm sure that Jesus forbade religion and economics because he knew
how man can be vulnerable to spiritual compromise.
sevens
Posted:
Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:46 am
Nup its a whole lot of rubbish and purely mans fear
driven imagination.
It amazes me that I get deleted and edited and then you see crazy non relevant
threads like this and no worries they are kept.
must be a relative.
sevens
Posted:
Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:58 am Post subject:
The problem is, people put energy and feeling into
there thread and then they see it all dismantled from there own point of view.
Off course people get upset and react and how do you know they are right in
dismantling threads in the scheme of things.
What are we some child with no experience in this spiritual walk. Just about all
the UB readers are ex Christians who were treated like children. So what I'm
saying they are not new born spiritual persons, many people here do have past
experience and are not stupid for some person to come around and just delete way
in accordance to his own limitations in his view point and research. I think its
insulting to say the least particularly when you don't even know the person nor
ever have conversed with him. Why should I respect that. How can I respect that!
No one is baby around here. People here can think for themselves and be able to
express themselves fully.
Did Jesus ever delete anyone or suppressed a persons thoughts. No! because he
believes in freedom of speech or expression..
Re:
End times or transition!! Enters a new phase
Although here is another view point. Ahh it interesting but I feel more convinced with this research through the books.
I don't think the Maitreya is the anti Christ. But I don't the www.Reel.org leader is the New Maitreya either. I prefer the biblical and Urantia account.
Although I see the same Triangle symbolism.
Maitreya From The West
Here is another view
Maitreya Project