I believe right before judgment there will be a Ark evac rapture for the repentant and who do the will of the Father.

Then the Elect and their families come back after Judgment has occurred and it will be an empty planet for the Elect there families and the saved to rebuild. The Elect will have access to the tree of life and will serve the Lord in whatever capacity.

It will take a thousand years to bring the planet to the stage of Light and Life before we received our first translation temple. Many will not pass through death but through the fires of translation.

It will be a large family planet for families to prosper and fill the planet.

After a thousand years, the originals, those who knew the old and built the new can elect to be translated on to there future adventure or they can stay here for a while longer here.

The elect will see the invisible Melchizedek and the Midwayers

However, I'm sure the Melchizedek will be seen by all. The Elect will have vast universal knowledge and understanding, a real uplift for man.

This time now is the testing field of the elect....right now! Faith and sincerity is vital!

Sevens

I have to check this but.....

24 planets in quarantine and still in rebellion

This probably explains the number of the 24 Judges who sit around the Judgment seat.

One sitting for each fallen planet where each sitting in a judgment seat works on a plan of redemption individualized for each planet.

Since they around the judgment seat they combine their plans to make a oneness. Like we see with the ancient places and the Urantia Book where the journey includes the prophets of the bible, old, new and the ones of today all forming a oneness out the jigsaw puzzle as it fits together each day on the run.

The Reserve Corp of Destiny.

Every judge has his plan of operation working on his specific planet and who combines with the other Judges. The plan begins on this planet as it was the bestowal planet of Michael King of Nebadon Universe known as Jesus of Nazareth. The Sevenfold scheme will work throughout all the planets like a domino effect all coming to the same place JESUS!

Praise the Lord for that and what a plan including the journey.

Yea to Jesus!

Sevens

Interesting interview from Glen Greenwald.

http://robertsarmast.blogspot.com/

The more the corrupt, corrupt to hide themselves the more severe judgment will be upon them.

If no one represents the people, the Father will.

http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimp ... ine=33#mfs

are imperative

–adjective 1. absolutely necessary or required; unavoidable: It is imperative that we leave.
2. of the nature of or expressing a command; commanding.
3. Grammar. noting or pertaining to the mood of the verb used in commands, requests, etc., as in Listen! Go! Compare indicative (def. 2), subjunctive (def. 1).


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/imperative

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PS this browser is so unstable at a certain point, if people are going change things Just say so. More of the same limited rubbish nothing different to what we see about us.

This speaks of practically the whole Christian Church Body.....All of them, including the individuals who us God in the grab for money! Every church is organic to economic and social commitments of this system of which will pass. It appears that all churches have to divorce themselves from this entanglement if they are to survive. That means big changes and no one is prepared for this especially the churches and all the pastors and that people like Perry Stone. That's a big challenge for people like that! I'm not sure how they would harmonize with the above in action.

Maybe its all to do with individual religion of Jesus and man and nothing to do with social and economic entanglements which does include the doctrine of tithe with fear in the background.


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From what I'm reading in the above the Prosperity Doctrine linked with tithe (Economic entanglement) is just trash. A church these days not required to get a message across for the individual about God and Jesus. Social entanglements = stuffing around with peoples mind through manipulation and fear in a congregation and doing wrong things behind closed doors.

Why didn't the church foresee this economic collapse in the beforehand and all the while preaching the abomination of the prosperity doctrine.  Why didn't they see this current disaster....eh!

This is precisely why there is high a percentage of so called "backsliding" from the church because people are not fulfilled with all the imposition including economic and social demands/entanglements made upon the people by the church and their leaders justifying imposition with the bible and using Jesus' name in vain.

Where was the Catholic and other churches when the warning needed to be sounded.

Forget the lame message of peace on Earth, that will only come until after judgment.

All the festival are useless if a church cant warn its people in the beforehand without reservation.

No Guts at all and completely useless as a watchtower for the people and as a messenger from God. There not even truthful.

Oh and the UN they are in a worse position with there do nothing Alice Bailey Lucifer sophistry stuff which will not save a single thing. They are in complete denial of the true God of the Universe, Jesus the Sovereign.

Sevens

Im only interested in saving people now.

Forget about this planet its a gonner with its Nodite inspired system, The Babel system is going and including all the war loving people which includes all the terrorists. All of them!!

The only people that will be successful is the Jesus people but many of them will go through the fires of refinement in tribulation.

The easiest path is just do the will of God NOW and that's it and we all know what that is.

Save people and ask nothing of them. Deliver the message and that's it. You cant make a horse drink the water.

This planet has gone bad, it just never worked under the current spiritual climate.  You might as well reset the whole lot.  reset civilization.

The planet is like a rotten apple all of a sudden.  You might as well cut your losses, nothing more can be done.

It was a failure on man behalf where the Father has to intervene.  You can all feel very disappointed about that this includes all mankind including many of the generations of old who did nothing, only for themselves and there family who became irrelevant in universal truth.

Sevens

Sevens

LionandLamb - The Revelation Series. Section 1: The Churches. The Mystery
http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?v ... c85e24b1a9

The Mystery eh! Like the Sevenfold Mystery that comes from the beginning.

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Its an absolute outrage.

Just the other day I checked my balance and took some money out....$4 charge. Outrages and they make billions each year. And yet man bails them out. What hypocrisy is that.

They are evil and will be flattened in Judgment. We put trust ion the banks and again they betray us all...all humanity.

 

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/800 ... -mortgages


Oh The banks and the leaders of the banks will all go, they are destined to be taken off planet to jail for being an evil operation at the end of the day.

Pack Wolves in Sheeps clothing. Sheep clothing = woollen suits ahahahaha...liars and cheats in wool woven suits

The Financial business is all going to go into Judgment.

If there is an EMP from God in the first evac the banks will be destroyed. That's when man becomes Debt free because no record will exist being electronic and there will a real economic collapse.

Its a warning to the banks to correct themselves like I wrote to them before the collapse, that collapse was coming.

The problem is when the last messenger has nothing to loose because of complete rejection and treated like a piece of crap in the whole time, patience runs out and if I feel that, God feels that and he will respond.

Its a dangerous time and banks are evil I have concluded, or better still the leadership of the Banks are rotten to the core.

Sevens

Churches forget about all that social and economic tithe entanglements for as Paradise and Jesus is here. You don't have to worry about all that, the husband comes for his the bride or our friend and master comes for us.

Instead pool in resources for a great study as its more expanded and is related to Eden of Cyprus and proclaim that the End Times is here and for man to be prepared in his soul.

Spread the word. Dont be apprehensive and lazy!

Do the Perry Stone thing. He is doing the will of the Father.

Go all out for the End Times and go out in the great final Sermon of the Ages where victory is had in Jesus Christ Sovereign of the Universe where man has obtained the Glories of Adam. The Glories of the ages.

No man can take that away, the truth is here and Jesus is here for his own who do the will of the Father.

Anyone who reads this and doesn't belong to a church...don't worry about it , if you have faith you're in, as that is an individual experience between you and God alone with all the Sevenfold resources of instruction. The Sevenfold instruction.



Sevens

Any atheist who reads this and has a tugging of truth within him and desires to be part of the operation and who has a flicker of faith.

Reconcile to the Father and learn from Jesus and

Jump on board mate, No worries mate you can have first row seats for the journey. More than anyone the Lord wants to demonstrate the truth to you but the key is faith in the beforehand in Jesus our master.

These are the requirements of Universal admittance of the Kingdom of Heaven.

If you accept this then No worries mate your in.

Were all going on a beautiful journey of mankind throughout the Universe to learn the Universe way, the Jesus Sovereign way....first stage rapture or the Evacuation because the planet will go in either Nuclear devastation or the Wormwood system will arrive and that means havoc. Either way everything will get burnt. This all may happen after the result of an EMP blast from the first rapture when the world is plunged into darkness in the first instance.

Sevens

Such a stupid thing and mockery.

Comic nailed to across.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/slideshow_aj ... ame=safran

Fool, what are we suppose to have a laugh about that. What happened to the 10 inch nails.

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Churches I would even go to the extent of making all truth presentations free

Upload all of the presentation for free for the people.

Give out everything, the whole thing free and to be freely available to every man to every nation.

I would invest heavily in research and expedition to 1stEden for the third time and Dalamatia City and including Vans capital to test the Urantia Book once and for all, A journey in full collaboration of all the willing churches.

Then I would put together the greatest and the biggest presentation ever in the history of mankind looking at the whole of truth from many aspects.

I know it will come up trumps like with the 1stEden expeditions.

I would dump the tithe requirement and let people give what they want to give to the church.

If the sermons are good enough and the Jesus is there in truth people will give to the cause.

I must say the Urantia Book will be the biggest challenge for the churches but blended with bible and in the witness of the journey I think people will see it as safe and the churches will increase if they include all of the truth and no compromise.

Its a simple I read and I see and I know the journey is very easy to demonstrate and has great power in truth, that the atheist cannot combat on any level. Its a completion of unbreakable truth, the Jesus Sovereign truth.

This presentation would bring great blessings to all the churches and would uplift them to the next level. But who has the will? the will of the Father?

Sevens

I thought that was interesting

Jews to Recite Rare Sun Blessing at Masada’s Ancient Synagogue
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/130732

It seems like an acknowledgment to Adam and perhaps the glories of Adam...indirectly refers in a wider metaphor to 1stEden the home of Adam. Interesting that happening this year 09 of all years.

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Just remember there is a warrant out on Bin Laden and his crew that I lodged in the Justice Courts of the Ancients of Days and there is no escape and hiding form that. At this time a case is being built against Bin Laden and the Last Rebel by The Arch Angels and Gabriel and the Judgment Seat of Jerusem would be fully aware of this.

Bin Laden and the Al Queda Mob is in BIG TROUBLE with the Universal Administration, the more he does and says, the worse it gets for him.

By the way this includes all his associates through out the world including the Taliban for there evil to upon the people guided by error.

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Here is a thread about Bin Laden and his evil crew which has complete relevance to this journey.

http://www.thendtimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=3840&p=59707#p59707

And that guy had 200 million to invest in a journey like this and he spent on stupid war.. a disaster way of a fool and who brought the souls of many people to personality extinction. No different to Hitler, Stalin, and all the rest of the Lucifer follower fools in all there death and destruction they wrought upon the earth and its people.

The normal people of any country are OK but its usually its leaders that are just disaster basket cases for the people.

There is a very heavy penalty for any man tempting the Father through Death and Destruction. This is where Iranian leadership have to be very careful to.

Oh by the way the Sudanese President is also due for a court case in the Justice courts of the ancient of Days lodged by myself...he doesnt escape either.

Gabriel and the angels are at this time building a case for me against the Sudanese President in court.

Another abysmal leader and I notice he is awfully quiet these days he knows his time is up very soon where he will be presented in the Justice Courts of the Ancients of Days to speak of his actions against mankind.

Another disaster case of a man, not even a man just a thug!

International courts...don't worry about mate, if the Bin Ladens and the Sudanese President escapes your court...They will not escape the Justice courts of the Ancients of Days.

In order to escape this they must repent from there sins to Sovereign Jesus and the Father and change there ways and face the court of the planet like a man. Even though they are not men but just animals and spiritual rouges who live in caves hiding in guilt and despair.

Well done fool! That's the level man you have brought man down to by following Bin Laden treachery along with his horde of spiritual criminals who speak and act in complete error.


Sevens

http://www.world-destiny.org/bbg/Urantian.aspx

In other words the return of Jesus refers to the same world crisis. Everything will happen at in the same progressive event.

 

Posted: Today at 04:04

Well there is much happening in Prophecy world that means big changes for this planet.

No worries about the UB, no one needs the UB to be saved, the Bible is good for that and with all the right information.

I agree also that we are All end time messengers

Sometimes I might get carried away with all the last messenger information.

Sevens

No worries Chaparo, about the UB, no one needs the UB to be saved, the Bible is good for that and with all the right information.  although I personally think Jesus wants people to expand themselves but that's just my view point.

I agree also that we are All end time messengers

Sometimes I might get carried away with all the last messenger information with myself and easy to do when your excited in a discovery.

I thing I will say that the UB is completely Monotheistic and is not some new age thing like the abomination of the course of miracles.

One has to test the book out for themselves.

I really Like ArchMichael and his work and I know he works with Jesus. I see Jesus in his work to and he has led me to many further realizations. I am thankful for that.

Plus he was very friendly and kind to me even though there may be some differences in the way I see things but I always respected his input.

If he leaves this forum for good, I think its a real loss for the people here plus he is a fellow brother and a good bloke and I feel flat that he is going.

The last thing the forum needs are prime researchers leaving this place

Sevens

Its like in the following verse.
 

In quite a few posts back I was speaking about the Evacuation of the elect and them going to another planet to learn about civilization in the Universe way of Jesus, learning about a stable civilization and the spiritual realities of there world and of which maybe applied here on Earth when all the raptured come back to rebuild.

When you read the above fragment from the Ub, in the first glance it seems straight forward and you understand as being a personal experience in your future journey. No worries.

But when I read beyond the words of the fragment and relate it my conversation about the destination of the elect you would think that the above could also apply to a band of people or souls evacuated from Urantia/Earth in the 1st stage rapture traveling in the Universe, bound for a stable civilization to learn and understand civilization. When the souls have arrived at the other world, we enter into the spiritual realities of another of the Universe which is not affected by rebellion, to learn the spiritual realties of the divine values of this other world in time and space where we learn about a stable civilization.

 

It also does refer to after death to when we are repersonalised and experience all of this.

From my experience of the UB, it has everything the Bible has and affirms much of the prophecies in the Bible but I feel you have to look deeper behind the words to capture what they are really telling us in the multiple metaphor that expands and confirms the Bible.

Both books are in agreement with each other in many ways concerning the future of things.

One thing for sure for the elect in the time off planet will not just leisure, it will be a time work and learning, there definitely will be some rest and healing but we have to move forward in thinking how we are going to rebuild after judgment.

Looking forward making plans already.

Sevens

The above verse from the Bible has the same duality in metaphor. On the face of it you would think its about Jesus and disciples and there witness of the experience, no worries at all. But looking deeper and relating it to this journey we are witnesses of the beginnings of each epoch in the discovery like with 1steden and its part of the Jesus project of which we are witnesses in documenting of it, right from the beginning which are the ancient places and its journey of the beginning.

Its through these compelling thoughts of the dual metaphor is the reason why I love both the Bible and the Urantia Book and all the other books about religion.

Sevens.

That would be right from the greediest operations in the world.

Rates grab: Banks 'lying' about funding costs
http://money.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=801231

Brighter news, well I hope for the people of the world just to make life a little easier.

US recession easing, Bernanke says

http://money.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=801269

But then Selfish man just cant help himself

Fleeced: 'Maverick' sells out small investors for $4.5 million
http://money.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=801369 )tempted and couldn't help himself eh!

This is precisely why the Wolves in sheep clothing have to go. The planet for the future destiny cannot sustain people like this and operations as in the above articles.

This is why the Judgment of mankind has to come. to prevent such robbery upon mankind.

All these people cannot be in the new world that is to come for this planet. It is a intervention made by the Universal Administration of Jesus, the Sovereign.

Or else mankind will have nothing left and he will be owned by these utterly selfish and greedy Nodite people who have the strong selfish Nodite grip within themselves, these are the Wall street Nodite people of this world today who are throughout the world in there money monopoly.

They own the world and they can do whatever they like to man at will for there own greedy and selfish purpose.

The Banks are not for the people as demonstrated, they are for themselves. This has to be corrected or we will not survive.

The Banks are a complete monopoly unto themselves and they only save there own. They are not for man!

The above articles is the witness of evil wrought upon man by man his own brother.

All documented and witnessed!! before the Lord and all mankind for Judgment Day!


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Sevens

Always be aware that anything can happen at anytime unexpectedly.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30193410/

 

With the Banks...well what can I say, you see there witness.

I have lost faith in the Banks but then again I have never had faith in the Banks for the way they operate.

There is no hope for them currently.

In the new world, money will be non profit and owned by the people and for all the people of the world.

We cannot come back to this junction ever again.

The New Planetary Government of Humanity will run in accordance to the Universal way of Jesus the Sovereign, he is the head of all governments within the New Planetary Government of Humanity. Thus the real New World Order of Jesus the Sovereign and not run by selfish Nodites in the bid for monopoly and power over all things on this planet where man is a slave.

In the future, Money will be a slave for man not the other way around where man is a slave to money.

Here is a description of the New Planetary Government of Humanity as expressed by Jesus himself.

This is guidance for the future of which all current leaders should review with sincerity and honesty.

This is the way of the new future of this planet.

http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper134.html#3.%20THE%20URMIA%20LECTURES

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This is good, don't stop or reverse just keep on moving forward in the talks. This is very good and I encourage all to work of peace and cooperation in the Universe citizen way of Jesus, the Sovereign.

 

I hope the package is good and acceptable where all parties can work together for a good Universe citizen outcome in the Jesus Universe way.

Praise the Lord again. No worries mate!

Like I said all leaders of all countries have to start thinking more expanded as Universe citizens of a very large Universe that form a federation of many sentient inhabited planets or personalities like you and me. All leadership have to expand there thinking.

Off course all is judged and thinking in the Universe Jesus way one will find success.

This Universe is a federation of many planets...just like in Star Trek where Jesus, the Sovereign if the Head and in charge of all things with the Father in Paradise.

Eventually, the Universe Federation will reveal itself and that will be related to 1st stage rapture.

If all people and all nations correct in all attitudes towards one another, the winnowing wont be so bad or severe for Nations following the Universe Jesus way.

I know Jesus will honour that,  no worries at all because Jesus the Sovereign is simply good and loving.

Sevens

Referring to the above article

 

This is probably the reason why the current Iranian leadership has a softer tone.

I saw an interview of this person when he was over here and I was absolutely impressed with this man, Mohammad Khatami.

Governments can work this person.

The current leadership in Iran are realizing that there policies are not consistent to the will of the majority of the people. Its interesting how the people can alter an attitude of Government when there own survival is at stake.

It shows that the aggressive rhetoric simply doesn't work. People naturally prefer and more moderate, workable and acceptable outcome where all prosper in one way or another.

It would of been preferable that the softening of the aggressive tone came from the heart rather than saving ones own political skin!

Remember the Secondary Midwayers originate from the ancient Arattian Kingdom of Adamson and Ratta, the Invisibles or the immortal hero's of the ages and they have a personal interest in the people of Iran and where the country is headed for.  I'm absolutely sure they want Iran to go the peace path and work  with all the nations properly and this would Jesus, the Sovereigns will to.

Its the Will of Jesus that no one wars against each other.

Also the Secondary Midwayers want the political and the religious leadership of Iran if not the world to investigate all things of the Urantia Book completely. The Urantia book for Uran/Iran..

Sevens

I think many many years ago before countries had there borders set by the British, Iran used to be called Uran like with Iraq was called Uraq.

Its like with Urantia Book and then compare that to the word Quran

The "tia" means regalia like in the word Dalamatia where Dala or Daleth means Door...."mat" means Truth and Justice and again tia = regalia.

I think the revelators are telling us something in the word.

Dalamatia City is the Door to truth and Justice and that means Judgment. Dalamatia city points to judgment in name for this day!

The Dala Symbol is a triangle like the Dalamatia City, the Triangle city with a circle temple of the Father in the middle.

It seems like the literal symbol of Judgment.

Also Dalamatia city is where Primary Midwayers were born and also the place where the Urantia administration came down from Heaven down to Earth as in Sumerian text and where The Sons of God built the city, precisely in this location submerged in the Persian Gulf and they have a personal interest in this city for our day.

The City from where the Judgment begins, the Judgment city, the first of the Beginning! The Beginning!

The Fathers and Mothers of the Primary Midwayers are the Sons of God who came from Heaven to Earth. supping of the tree of life. The physical Immortals.

The rebellion occurred approximately 200,000 years later in this city and this is precisely the place where The Father has unfinished business with the Last remaining rebel, used for judgment and demonstration for all to see in the final outcome.

Without even realizing it at the time, The Universal Administration of Jesus and the Father acknowledge the discovery of Dalamatia City through the light without heat magnetar that flashed us in the same month of the discovery of the first city.

June 2007, Light without heat magnetar represents the spiritual luminosity of the universe administrators as written in the Urantia Book.

So as far as I'm concerned Judgment is ON...

Sevens

Today, 12:46 AM

Resonance
Can I see a list of these 'so-called' prophets of old?
........

For a list of prophets, you have to go through to forum replies that I copy each time I post something within my research website. The Forum replies are spread over 35 long pages of line upon line and precept upon precept as written in Isaiah.

If you want to find out about the prophets and who says what, you will have to read and study the whole document and that will test your faith and sincerity of the truth.

If you want to know anything concerning the end time journey of this planetary system you will have to work, like I had to, like we all have to in order to overcome ignorance in truth.

Sevens
 

ahahahaha I just have to have a laugh at that one.

The Holy Spirit wont let you depart from here because you are Jesus brother and instrumental to the End Times.

I thought that was funny, cant get away from here.

Because we all love ya brother, fellow Jesus brother.

Where else you going to go, this is where the action is!

The brotherhood of Jesus is way beyond interpretations of the scripts, it incorporates the soul of man in brotherhood with his fellows. Its the thing that keeps us together no matter how varied our thoughts are.

Praise the Lord for a good laugh and his beauty within fellow brothers!

Sevens

That was a good one Lobo, Sun Worship.

For me, everyday seems like a Sabbath in full dedication even at my financial peril which is staring me in the face. Oh well its all worth it.

ahahahah

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Apparently there were a number of Earthquake that swarmed on this day Easter Friday Julian.

 

and Israel

 

I think this is the same earthquake reported

 

and another Earthquake of Chile

 

and TWO Earthquakes in Indonesia

 

Seven Earthquakes on the beginning of the 6th Shabbes reported on Easter Friday 17th 09 based on the Julian Calendar.

Interesting pattern and Ominous!

Sevens

Hi Lobo

Apparently according the Julian calendar the 17th is Easter Friday, Shabbes.

I was wondering do the Jewish people celebrate this day the 17th for this year?

From what I understand  this 17th is Passover day this year of which the Jewish culture celebrate.

Is that right?

If it is, I just recorded Seven Earthquakes reported on this day.

Seven earthquakes on the Sabbath,

In the way I see things in my journey, that is HUGE and for me its a GIANT sign that things are on track that we are in the flow with the Universal Administration of the Kingdom of Heaven in consummation of things.

Also I must admit there is much Mithra blended doctrine within Christianity that was adopted as part of Paul's compromise to make Christianity attractive to the Pagan in those early days. We still have that unfortunate legacy today.

Pastors should wake up to this and accept this and move to identify and expel this rubbish. I believe this Mithra stuff is the great weakness of Christianity and makes it vulnerable to the Atheist who can capitalize on this in there criticism which does behold many points that Christianity cannot combat as that is truth to.

See how it proves a weakness in the End Times where the message is watered down because of this early major compromise.


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That's a big development

It seems to me that the only way to serve God fully is by being an individual religionist working on his own with all the books without going or subscribing to a church.

That will be the way he Father works with man in full truth and no compromise as opposed to the UN sophistry who is making an attempt to standardize religion based on there Lucifer ridden standards of religion.

Its all becoming upside dawn, Now the UN wants to control and water down religion by aligning it with the UN Lucifer sophistry that will never work being a man made driven thing.

I think its a subtle attempt to take Jesus and the full message out of religion, and an attempt by the UN to make religion questionable to them and not the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven.

I have a hunch that this legislation was crafted by the UN Lucifer sophistry people who have the untruthful sophistry and a sophistry that will never work regarding the Kingdom of Heaven is concerned.

Its all subtle and insidious!

I hate to say it, but in the future your better not going to church and begin cell groups, like in the early days of Christianity or just simply work on your own with Jesus.

This lays the platform for the persecution as foreseen.



Sevens

Thanks for the reply. I learnt something.

I like the scriptures, I started to see things and patterns in the verses you posted.

They are great cases.

 

I heard that the Baal religion sacrificed babies as a convenient way of getting rid of unwanted babies.

That's what I read, It seems logical to me that barbarous Lucifer/Last Rebel cult would do that.


Sevens

Im curious about these scriptures that Lobo put up on another thread.

 

Pure speculation and creative imagination according and applied to the Shabbes Timeline.

17th April 09 (Friday Sabbath Passover Julian Calendar) to 1st May 09 = 14 days
 

It seems that a complete is made and rest can ensue.

Sevens

Two other Earthquakes reports on the 14th and 16th Arpil 09 in the same area

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/rec ... 09fma2.php

 

and in the same location on

 

Sevens

Two other Earthquakes reports on the 14th and 16th Arpil 09 in the same area

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/rec ... 09fma2.php

 

and in the same location on

 

That's 5 Earthquakes in Indonesia over 2 days, all over 5 on the Richter scale.

And 2 Earthquakes on the same day in Afghanistan.

Incredible earthquake swarms

Sevens

Earthquakes throughout the world over 5 mag in recent days.

It also appears I'm a day out. some occurred on the 16th but reported on the 17th May 09 (Julian Sabbath Passover)

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/rec ... es_big.php


 

That's 5 Earthquakes in Indonesia over 2 days, all over 5 on the Richter scale.

And 2 Earthquakes on the same day in Afghanistan.

Incredible earthquake swarms

On the 16th and 17th April the virgin Island had 18 earthquakes above 3 Richter scale.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/rec ... es_all.php

Sevens

Hi

I went to my friends place to read the Urantia Book. We read through the JOTAPATA Section where I read fragments that I feel serves as a correction for myself on many levels.

Recently I have been saying that because I believe Jesus is all mercifull, I believe there would be a second rapture of the repentant but as I read through this more, Im thinking that is not the case.

 

It is wholy possible and Im starting to think that if there is an evacuation of the elect, doers of Gods will and believers in the beforehand, evacuation will only happen once.

When people realise the error of there way after Heaven has revealed itself in rapture there will not be a second chance as the journey then is not a journey of faith because all is revealed.

From what I read, when people then call upon the Lord after the physcial revealing, God will not hear.

Im thinking rapture could perhaps be a once only event and not twice. The rapture event would have to be based on faith in the beforehand not after.

After which the believers, then after rapture only enter the kingdom of Heaven through the death process in faith of redemption and salvation.

Here is Jesus' Jatapota disemmination which I think makes excellent reading and direction for any believer in the Father.

I would recommend all to read this as I feel this is excellent information from our Master Jesus for all man, regardless.

 

All I must admit I have been to judgmental on people and I feel I have to correct myself here. Sorry if I have been judgmental on everyone.

Sevens

Thanks Lobo for the links and post, there is much reading but it looks interesting.

I just find it interesting that God expressed the 14th of Nisan....Why that date, does that signify something that points to the final resolve in all things in the future. Is it some something remembered that will realize itself in truth and 14 and 15 is significant in the End times.

Why and what was in Gods mind to select that particular date.

Sevens

Thanks Petra for your reply.

There is so many variations in all the body that claim Jesus. That's why I feel the essence of brotherhood is important to maintain a spiritual solidarity through the spirit of Jesus.

Sevens

I never realized there was an Enochian year which the half year is 150 days


http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=d ... en&tab=wv#

Im just thinking about the Shabbes time when its 150 day timeline is Mayday, May 1st 09

From Dec 3rd 09 upon realisation of Light without heat from Magnetar, Spiritual Luminosity of the Universe Deities according the UB which flashed in June 07, the Month I discovered the location of Dalamatia City in the images with all its matched anomalies.

I just wonder if there is an event on May 1st 09 on the Shabbes 150 day timeline or something that leads to the next stage.

Its interesting that this Sevenfold outpost was shaken on 18th March 09 one day after the beginning of Enoch's year March 17th 09 running on a timeline that does include a 150 day period and does concern matters of Heaven and Earth.

Sevens

A thought came to mind whilst watching this

In Ezekiel he sees in a vision of a valley of bones coming to life. Many interpret that as Israel being resurrected.

But the same could very well apply to the journey to the ancient places where the bones or the truth of the cities of the Generations of Old whose complete truth are resurrected from Dalamatia City, 1stEden, Vans Highland capital, the Dilmuns, Jiroft, 1st Susa and the great Pyramid to the present! All in the revealing the Sevenfold Apocalypse in the End Times. The resurrection of the past Epochs in the reading of the Urantia Book and in the discovery in all the books on a very long and enlarged journey!

I believe this is a Bones in all the valleys coming to life from the beginning. The end comes from the Beginnings of the Generations of Old.

Sevens
 

Astronaut warns of 'alien cover-up'
14:00 AEST Fri Apr 24 2009

By ninemsn staff

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/805819/astronaut-warns-of-alien-cover-up

 

Very interesting that this comes out now in the timeline.

I praise the Lord Father for this and timing is perfect, in perfection!

The Headquarters of the this local system Federation of Planets is located here.


http://www.dalamatiacity.com/UniverseCentre7.htm

In regards to the Shabbes timeline this news release fell on the beginning of the 7th Shabbes, 24th April 09


http://www.dalamatiacity.com/MagnetarSabbath.htm

Oh Hail King Jesus mighty Sovereign of this Universe.


Sevens

Perhaps the investigators should consider in light of new and enlarged facts of where they come from and where they are going to.

In the case of the journey to the ancient places, what they can simply do is launch secret expeditions to the locations and verify the truth.

All I know, is that dont think the Father is interested in saving this system as its all to corrupted. Even the religions are to corrupted by commerce and politics, the whole thing has become a disaster.

The true messenger of Jesus has nothing to worry about in the Fathers bidding of the truth...Simply "What is the enlarged truth?" and lets verify it. No one has to be violent about anything. In fact all of us can depart from any violence as the Father in Heaven will action the bidding of his servants in truth and consistent to the spiritual mandates of the realm of eternity in its operation for this planet, which are through the pathways ways of research, study, contemplation, realization and most importantly verification in relation with the Father in Heaven and his actions... But no one seems to want to do that! Oh well!

For all investigators representative of government, this is a fine opportunity to seek the mystery, research it and know where you come from and where you are going in ultimate truth and no one has to be violent about it.

There is great opportunity to uplift Government in truth which is way beyond the current perception and understanding of current religion and government.

This planet is about to be enjoined to the Universal Federation of Planets and therefore those who know and live the truth as best as one can become part of the Universal citizenry. We are all Universal citizens and member of the Kingdom of Heaven under the Sovereignty and rule of Jesus our Lord.

Personally, I welcome investigation and maybe help from Government to verify the truth of the Kingdom of Heaven on this planet through the verification of the ancient cities that points directly to Jesus and his enlarged teachings for this planet, the New/Enlarged Gospel of Jesus Christ in 2009 spread all over the world through Internet.

This enlarged Jesus truth, with a blue print expressed by Jesus in formation of the New World Planetary Government of Jesus for the New World just defeats the Lucifer sophistry hands down.

The Jesus enlarged truth is the unbreakable truth! and many countries are viewing this information currently because its is for there survival when Judgment comes only the nations that supports this drive by the Kingdom of Heaven and Jesus Sovereign will survive and that does include the great Land of George Washington where his visions for the USA will come to pass.

George Washington will have the last say in this for the USA.

His prophecy will be honored by the Kingdom of Heaven for the people of the USA and the world who follow Jesus Sovereign.

George Washington words will protect the USA in the fulfillment during judgment process. But then the people have to support Jesus in this drive for the completed truth.

This applies for the great Land of the South/Sinim too because we are great friends and Allies of the great people of the USA.

I would like to include all of Britain to in this drive because this country of Sinim came out of Britain and they are mighty fine people to and who are our brothers and allies to.

Without the these countries including New Zealand and its people we would be still in the Dark ages under the rule by absolute imposition without any regard to the citizen and you know exactly what I mean!

We even see that today don't we.

Sevens

Praise the Lord!

Most middle East countries are sadly misinformed and deceived by the religious rhetoric come politics, that's why Church and State was separated. Actually, society made its biggest progress under this condition.

The so called church looks after the spiritual only in truth (not commerce and politics) and the State looks after the admin of a healthy society only. The two should only mix in truth that is harmonized with a clean heart and mind, in other words uncorrupted with right motives.

The Church should only be concerned with the soul and purity of the truth and where the State looks after the belly of man to make sure he doesn't get to skinny.

Why for this, because the Church is still to immature in the rebellion and so is the state for it to become one with Church. There is is too much imposition from the church being a head of state.

The last time that happen Church head of state we were in the Dark Ages and we still see that today in the Vatican. Behind the times of change and cannot speak for Jesus in this time of the end times.

They are all constrained by power and materialism.

Jesus cannot rely on these people to bring out the truth of the end times because it is against there material interests. They are all too compromised in truth and have lost the true Jesus message long ago.

In my opinion all churches involved in commerce, like the tithe trip me out guilt concept and politics are all compromised and corrupted. All of them, your better off being an individual religionist working directly with Jesus and the Father and with full backing of the Kingdom of Heaven and you have all the resources available.

If the church is good enough in truth that can be demonstrated, then people will give freely without guilt or selfish driven compulsion which is an abomination especially for those pastors who demand all the material of an individual.

Abomination = spiritual scam or using the spiritual to obtain material emotively to feather your bed as many do. Like the prosperity doctrine and then give me all of it or a big slice of it!.....such abomination! and completely unworthy in the Kingdom of Heaven!


Sevens

No the Urantia Book is Monotheistic book on the planet and many things have been demonstrated in the physical like the 2 expeditions to Eden and verified with what is written.

Obviously, there is much more to research than some quick scroll through.

Can you demonstrate anything? I mean really demonstrate something and harmonize it with current knowledge?

The Urantia Book is the Sevenfold instruction found in the Book of Enoch...Have you read that book or are you the one book only person that still has to be completed!! as I was taught in 2 bible colleges.

According the UB the Jesus is Sovereign of the Universe....What does the Bible Say concerning the Sovereignty of Jesus...Eh!

If you read the UB properly you will find the UB is very severe, more so than the Bible and confirms much in the bible especially the rapture and those filled with pride and prejudice will stay here to learn and murmur about new doctrine of Jesus they will have to learn as mentioned in Isaiah.  And what of those who claim the name of Jesus and don't enter....eh! Obviously there is more for Christianity and its members to learn.

Have you read the Dead Sea Scrolls fully about the end time construct??? eh!

Have you read even St Ephraim of the Eastern Christian church 300AD concerning the end times??? Eh!

Have you read anything of the scripts of the prophets of old excluded out of the CATHOLIC bible in 300AD. EH!

All unworthy opinions based on pride and absolute prejudice that will go no where in the end times.

Essentially, according to UB its either Jesus and follow his path or desist in personality extinction. That's the choices of the Urantia Book....No NEW AGE Lucifer sophistry there and there is only one God and that is the Father and his son Jesus, the Sovereign.


Sevens

and this

 

the bible Michael search

http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=michael&ver=kjv

and then the Ub

 

sevens

Feb 7, 2007

http://www.relijournal.com/Religion/Dionysus-and-Jesus.15449

The parallels between the biographies and life stories between the pagan god Dionysus and the Christian Jesus.

 Dionysus is the Greek pagan god of ancient Greece of wine and beer. Latest research has shown that there are many parallels between the lives of Dionysus and Jesus Christ of Christianity. Where the Vatican now stands in Rome, Italy there once stood a pagan temple and now where the Pope says mass there were pagan rituals where pagan priests would practice pagan ceremonies. There are many parallels and connections between paganism and Christianity. But here is a list of parallels between Dionysus and Jesus that are the most shocking:

1. Dionysus comes down to earth as god made flesh as a savior and is the son of God.

2. His Father is a god and his mother is a mortal virgin.

3. His born in a humble stable on December 25 before three shepherds.

4. He dies at Easter time for the sins of the world.

5. After he dies he descends into hell and rises again on the third day.

6. He preaches about a Holy communion of his sacred body and blood for the forgiveness of sins.

This is just a tip of the iceberg of the parallels between Christianity and paganism. I will talk about many more in other articles soon to come. But for right now just think about it. The main question that arises, Was Jesus a real man who really existed and was really the Son of God or was he just a simple fictional character who was a rewritten story of Greek and Roman Mythology.

sevens

Connection 27 April 09

Dionysus has been coming into my mind lately and I thought I would investigate Dionysus further to see how it relates to this journey of the ancient places in the revealing of characters or a character.

Interesting thought, Dionysus = Servant of Dionysus in Greek Mythology and it connects with the Discovery of Atlantis/1stEden  project  where it connects directly to PLATO which the story of ATLANTIS comes from, Apparently Plato taught Dionysus the younger and consider today, the 2 Atlantis'  Atlantis in the Med and Dalamatia City in the Persian gulf. I believe there is a connection from the Beginnings and its related to the end times!
 

Here is run through of what the name Dionysus means and its relationship to a character of this journey.

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Dionysius

Dionysius means Dennis

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Dionysius

The Graeco-Roman name Dionysius, deriving from the name of the Thracian

Thrace

Thrace is a historical and geographic area in southeast Europe. Today the name Thrace designates a region spread over southern Bulgaria , northeastern Greece , and European Turkey ....
 god

God (male deity)

God, as a male deity, contrasts with female deities, or "goddesses". While the term 'goddess' specifically refers to a female deity, words like 'gods' and 'deities' can be applied to all gods collectively, regardless of gender....
 Dionysus

Dionysus

In classical mythology, Dionysus or Dionysos , is the God of wine, the inspirer of ritual madness and ecstasy, and a major figure of Greek mythology, and one of the twelve Olympians, among whom Greek mythology treated Dionysus as a late arrival....
, was exceedingly common, and many ancient people, famous and otherwise, bore it. It remains a common name today in the form Dennis

Dennis

Dennis or Denis is a male given name derived from the Greco-Roman name Dionysius meaning "servant of Dionysus", the Thracian god of wine, which is ultimately derived from the Greek Dios combined with Nysa , where the young god was raised....
 (Denys, Denis, Denise).

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In the following large highlight is my name but in saying this, it is still hidden as this Young is in a different language that comes from the flatlands of Europe.  Note:  I'm only checking for commonality in name as it is related to birth from where the last message comes....from the ancient places, the journey to the ancient places, the beginnings.  Remember, its the metaphor or spiritual metaphor parallel in the physical that I seek to find confirmation that this journey is right and how it directly relates to the ancient places connected to the Urantia Book.

This journey was seen and written about in the beforehand and its truth was spread over all the ancient religions including Christianity only to be brought together in oneness at the end with a new book from Heaven, The Urantia Book.

Praise the Lord Father in Heaven and Jesus our friend and Sovereign!

Dionysius the Younger or Dionysius II  (ca. 397 BC – 343 BC) ruled Syracuse

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Dionysius_II_of_Syracuse

break

Young = Javan = Greeks = Javan = Van   Van incorporates the Arattian Kingdom that has connection the Van Highland headquarters near the Kopet Daugh and has relationship to 1stEden right back through to Dalamatia City. I praise the Lord!

continuing...

Syracuse, Italy

Syracuse is a historic city in southern Italy, the Capital of the province of Syracuse. The city is noted for its rich Greek history, culture, amphitheatres, architecture and association to Archimedes, playing an important role in ancient times as one of the top powers of the Mediterranean world; it is over 2,700 years old....
, Sicily

Sicily

Sicily is an Autonomous regions with special statute of Italy. Of all the regions of Italy, Sicily covers the largest land area at 25,708 km? and currently has just over five million inhabitants....
 from 367 BC to 357 BC and again from 346 BC to 344 BC.

He was the son of Dionysius the Elder

Dionysius I of Syracuse

Dionysius I or Dionysius the Elder , tyrant of Syracuse, Italy, conquered several cities in Sicily and southern Italy, opposed Carthage's influence in Sicily and made Syracuse the most powerful of the Western Ancient Greece colonies....
. When his father died in 367 BC, Dionysius assumed rule under supervision of his uncle, the philosopher Dion

Dion of Syracuse

Dion , tyrant of Syracuse, Italy in Sicily, was the son of Hipparinus, and brother-in-law of Dionysius I of Syracuse....
. Dion's disapproval of the young Dionysius' lavishly dissolute lifestyle compelled him to invite his teacher Plato

Plato

Plato , was a Classical Greece Greeks philosopher, mathematician, writer of philosophical dialogues, and founder of the Platonic Academy in Ancient Athens, the first institution of higher learning in the western world....
 to visit Syracuse. Together they attempted to restructure the government as more moderate, with Dionysius as the archetypal philosopher-king (see the Seventh Letter of Plato

Plato

Plato , was a Classical Greece Greeks philosopher, mathematician, writer of philosophical dialogues, and founder of the Platonic Academy in Ancient Athens, the first institution of higher learning in the western world....
).

Angered by the philosophers' attempt, Dionysius conspired with the historian Philistus

Philistus

Philistus, son of Archomenidas, was Greek historian of Sicily. Philistus was born at Syracuse, Italy about the beginning of the Peloponnesian War....
 and banished his uncle, taking complete rule in 366 BC. Without Dion, Dionysius' rule became increasingly unpopular, as he was mostly incompetent in governing men and commanding soldiers. When Plato appealed for Dion's return, the irritated Dionysius interfered with Dion's property and finances and gave his wife to another man. Before this, Dion had lived comfortably and unmolested in Athens

Athens

Athens , the Capital and largest city of Greece, dominates the Attica periphery; as one of the List of cities by time of continuous habitation, its recorded history spans around 3,400 years....
, but Dionysius' last offence spurred him into action.

Dion formed a small army at Zacynthus, and returned to Sicily in 357 BC, much to the delight of the Syracusans. As Dionysius was in Caulonia

Caulonia

Caulonia is a comune in the Province of Reggio Calabria in the Italy region Calabria, located about 60 km southwest of Catanzaro and about 70 km northeast of Reggio Calabria....
, Italy

Italy

Italy , officially the Italian Republic , is a country located on the Italian Peninsula in Southern Europe and on the two largest islands in the Mediterranean Sea, Sicily and Sardinia....
 at the time, Dion easily took all but Syracuse's island citadel. Dionysius sailed back to Syracuse immediately, and upon his return he attempted attacks from the citadel and tried to negotiate peace treaties. When he was unsuccessful in all attempts, he sailed away to Locri

Locri

Locri is a town and comune in the province of Reggio Calabria, Calabria, southern Italy. The name derives from the ancient Greek "Locris" ....
, Italy and left the citadel in the hands of his son Apollocrates

Apollocrates

Apollocrates was the son of Dionysius_II_of_Syracuse.Two years after Dion_of_Syracuse and Heraclides conquered Syracuse in 357 BC, Dion maintained control of the fortress of Ortygia....
.

In exile, Dionysius took advantage of the friendly citizens of Locri and became the city's tyrant, treating the locals with great cruelty. He did not return to Syracuse until 346 BC, eight years after Dion's assassination. Soon after he left Locri, the locals drove out the remaining troops and took their revenge on Dionysius' wife and daughters. Dionysius was able to regain power in Syracuse due only to its great political instability, as he was still very unpopular among the Syracusans. In the preceding several years, many other cities on Sicily had split from Syracuse to become ruled by more localized tyrants. Several of these cities joined the Syracusans in an attack against Dionysius, which proved to be quite successful and Dionysius was forced back into the citadel. At this time, 344 BC, Timoleon

Timoleon

Timoleon , son of Timodemus, of Corinth was a Greek statesman and general.As the champion of Greece against Carthage he is closely connected with the history of Sicily, especially Syracuse, Italy....
 arrived and began his invasion of Sicily. Dionysius, out of respect for Timoleon and quite aware he no longer had a chance at victory, arranged the surrender of the citadel and was given safe passage to Corinth

Corinth

Corinth, or Korinth Corinth is now the capital of the Prefectures of Greece of Corinthia. The city is surrounded by the coastal townlets of Lechaio, Isthmia, Kechries, and the inland townlets of Examilia and the archaeological site....
, Greece

Ancient Greece

The term Ancient Greece refers to the period of History of Greece lasting from the Greek Dark Ages ca. 1100 BC and the Dorian invasion, to 146 BC and the Roman Republic conquest of Greece after the Battle of Corinth ....
. For the next year until his death, Dionysius lived privately in Corinth in an increasingly miserable state.

sevens

I know what you mean about the food thing, but I cant stock food and I am relying on Evac for me personally. There are days that I just go hungry, awaiting work with the system demanding its cut simultaneously. I rely on the angels to network work for me, as little work openings appear to take me to the next step. I'm not on the dole either as I hate all that government imposition into everything of my life.

I feel stocking food are for those who intend on staying here post evac. Failing rapture my goose would be cooked in a short time, I wouldn't last that long, that's for sure.

sevens

Stockpiling food and the essentials just takes so much money, that's the problem.

For people who don't have much what a disaster rapture would be if left behind especially without electricity. You might as well dig up roots in the garden and try that.

Yeah I reckon Christians will be hunted down and blamed for rapture/evac. The rebel will be angry because he knows then he end draws near. When that is confirmed he will try and destroy this planet and all the people...If I go down, you come with me will be his manifesto.

sevens

I feel the left behind will be bewildered and be blamed from those who have no idea what occurred. Who else can an world atheist blame apart from some false story, it would have to point to those who knew what happened and who still remain.

And what about the resentment of the congregation to the leaders of the churches still left behind. They are going to vent there anger at someone and that may mean great changes in the church if it survives.

Why would some Christians be left behind in the first place?

For the left behind it almost sounds like a scenario that something was presented and rejected, this explains why Jesus even reject some that claimed and healed in his name. What happened there, it would have to relate to some rejection of a final message.

I believe or reckon, the Seventh Mystery was solved, presented and rejected by many of the Christian churches and individuals who speak in the name of Jesus.

Im sure it would have to be related to rejection!


Sevens

The above thought leads me to question.

What is the Seventh mystery if its not the ancient places?

Does anyone know with evidence to back up?

Sevens

You know in revelation or is it daniel, the book of the Seven seals.

The seal that lion of Judah breaks.

I think its this

 

or is it related to this

 

.

It appears that something is declared and opened relating to the Seventh or the Sevenfold. John told not to write it as it is reserved for the end for the test of man and his faith.

It appears that whatever is declared is about everything, the truth of everything revealed.

 

http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q= ... 10&ver=kjv

Whatever the angels is declaring is related to a little book or another book with the truth of everything and its a book opened in the end times.

 

And we are instructed to speak about this little book and prophecy.

Its a last book in the end times speaking of the truth of everything.

The fact it is in the hand of the angel infers that it was written by the Seventh angel.

The book is challenging and tests man faith.


Sevens

So there is a period of time that this book is revealed

 

Would that mean servants and prophets who attend these forums? and could the seventh angel be a type of a human go between of the book and humanity being seen like an angel from heavens view? Remembering the Human subject has to eat the book which means live and study the book which is challenging and yet its truth is very beautiful and complete!

"as he hath declared to his servants the prophets"

It appears that book is declared to all and the Seventh people begin to sound but the message is rejected and therefore means that the mystery exposed is cut short in the delivery as there is no point proceeding further in rejection.

Whatever the little Seventh book is it would have to be related to the Seven/Seventh/Sevenfold mystery. It would have to demonstrate this relationship in alignment with the full truth of everything relating to all things and demonstrated.

I wonder what that Seventh Book relating to a mystery is?????

sevens

If this Seventh book is the UB.

We have verified 1stEden, the truth but the journey was cut short because of absolutely no interest.

All I have been doing in between is keeping the vigil or watchtower open as man has abandoned this project and has no interest in it despite what he he says about his faith.

In other words the Mystery was sounded and then cut short and who cares right!

Its only now there appears to be some reactivation but only in writing of the main parts.

This is a Father project that just simply cant be abandoned in my view, not caring what anyone thinks. It must come to pass through thick and thin. In my view the Lords words will prevail!

Anyway, the Seventh Seal is related to the Seventh Mystery relating to a little book written by God himself.

The end is now!


Sevens

Who is worthy...general invitation/challenge to all to open the book and loose the Seven Seals of the book, a Sevenfold book!
and

http://www.williambranhamhomepage.org/lseals.htm
 

sevens

In the first report, apparently the virus just popped up out of nowhere and then shortly after later, it was linked to a four year old girl.

How do you put together a four in one virus?


Sevens

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/lion.htm

The author of the book wears his crown and has the paws of the Lion, the Lion of Judah.
 

I believe wholeheartedly that the journey to the ancient places is a contender in the fulfillment of the above with the left behind document of the journey to Eden and the all the ancient places, the trees of Eden. Part of the Seventh Mystery or mystery of the Seven Seals.

Sevens

I like the Name Metaphor in the following pointing to Dalamatia city in this journey and its connection to the metaphor of the message regarding this place in this day.

 

Titus unto Dalmatia. Dalmatia was a part of Illyricum, on the gulf of Venice, or the Adriatic sea. On the situation of Illyricum, See Barnes "Ro 15:19".

Paul does not mention the reason why Titus had gone there: but it is not improbable that he had gone to preach the gospel, or to visit the churches which Paul had planted in that region. The apostle does not suggest that he was deserving of blame for having gone, and it can hardly be supposed that Titus would have left him at this time without his concurrence. Perhaps when he permitted him to go, he did not know how soon events would come to a crisis with him; and as a letter would more readily reach Timothy at Ephesus than Titus in Dalmatia, he requested him to come to him, instead of directing Titus to return.

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/barnes/ntnotes.xvii.iv.x.html?highlight=dalmatia#highlight

¹⁹in the power of signs and wonders, in the power of the Holy Spirit; so that from Jerusalem, and round about even unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ; ²⁰yea, making it my aim so to preach the gospel, not where Christ was already named, that I might not build upon another man's foundation; ²¹but, as it is written,

They shall see, to whom no tidings of him came,

And they who have not heard shall understand

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/bible/asv.Rom.15.html?scrBook=Rom&scrCh=15-15&scrV=19-19

and

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/barnes/ntnotes.ix.xv.xix.html?highlight=dalmatia#highlight

It comprehended the modern Croatia and Dalmatia. So that, taking Jerusalem as a centre, Paul preached not only in Damascus and Arabia, but in Syria, in Asia Minor, in all Greece, in the Grecian Islands, and in Thessaly and Macedonia. This comprehended no small part of the then known world; all of which had heard the gospel by the labours of one indefatigable man. There is nowhere in the Acts express mention of Paul's going into Illyricum; nor does the expression imply that he preached the gospel within it, but only unto its borders. It may have been, however, that when in Macedonia, he crossed over into that country; and this is rendered somewhat probable from the fact that Titus is mentioned as having gone into Dalmatia, (2 Ti 4:10) which was a part of Illyricum.

I have fully preached. The word here used means, properly, to fill up, (peplhrwkenai), to complete, and here is used in the sense of diffusing abroad, or of filling up all that region with the gospel. Comp. 2 Ti 4:17. It means, that he had faithfully diffused the knowledge of the gospel in all that immense country.

{a} "signs and wonders" Ac 19:11 {b} "I have fully preached" Ro 1:14-16

sevens

I know like a real Lead balloon so where do I go.

I like the people here.

I tried starting my own forum but its read only as I got sick and tired of the spam but even then no one participates.

Maybe III join the outcast forum where all the outcasts go.

Or maybe there should be a thread called the outcast thread where the rejected go ahahahah. That would be a thread where the outcasts of the bible/UB researchers can go.

sevens

I agree but the problem is that I tried to be part of the UB community but they don't like what I write because I include the Bible in the research and therefore they shy away.

Its like between a rock and a hard place where ever I go...seriously! I believe both the Bible and the UB work together hand in hand in my view and I believe the end times will come from the bible and God will honour the prophets. I believe the Bible will shine in this day and manifest entirely!

Sevens

Well I don't think III last here as I'm a different Christian who have different views on things.

Oh well maybe III ramp up the forum I have already.

Its will be lonely but it seems like the only place I can go.

You can have all the pearl info I have left here but don't think about making money out of it as the End will come soon and the winnowing is already begun in the process.

In the meantime III will venture into new paths to bring this research about in the physical, I think I have spent enough time, energy and resources on these forums without price and reward like people here who happen to morn over lost income.

All the best and great blessings for the End Times.
everyone.

have a cheer ahahahahahah

Sevens

Hi Petra

Thanks for the suggestion but I don't think its a not the desire of the leaders of the forum to have a UB/bible person here and I think it could be a waste of time.

Everyone has there belief were everyone thinks they are right like me and that's reason for argument because everyone is passionate about there research.

Unfortunately the UB working with the bible is a lead balloon and it will remain that way for a long time unless evac occurs.

But hey Petra thanks for your care and concern and good suggestions I appreciate that.

I just feel there is a reversal going on but all the best to the leaders, no worries and there is always my research that is still accessible and I know there are some beautiful pearls there Your quite welcome to it for edification or even study or perhaps even expand it as there are paths there that can be investigated.

No worries Petra, no worries at all!

I am absolutely sure the last rebel was thwarted many times and hated this research. I say Good, lift the deception.

Anyway keep tabs on the research and see where it leads to. Keep an eye on it you never know where it leads to. To know whether this research is right is to see what manifests.

Sevens.

Baruch

 

sevens

Wow very powerful, from what I understand there will be persecution from people who think they are doing the service of God in the End Times but are not.

God has forgiveness considering Saul/Paul was there killing Stephen and God honored Stephens last words as we can se in history.

Obviously they were told things that the Pharisees or representatives of God didn't like.

The same will happen these days but I reckon after evac. People will not like it that they are wrong and will persecute the truth as it will be a little different but yet demonstrated in fact!

Its the facts that they don't like.

Even Saul/Paul was absolutely wrong thinking he was right and even murdered Stephen in Paul misplaced faith. Paul was even capable of murdering others for his misplaced faith which was wrong.

As we know the Christian church are capable of this error even in this day, in light of something different that comes from God seen in pride and prejudice without proper due diligence in research and study...that's what happens in judging others on a shallow base.

It all becomes skewed and pear shaped!

How can we judge people in light of our own error in things, we are not all prefect or even right in some cases and yet we judge not knowing better in many cases.

This judging not others is a hard thing to do.

I have that same problem to and that's why I try to demonstrate the truth and let people judge the facts in discovery as written like in the ancient places from the beginning...

That's why Christianity has to go to the ancient places and verify the facts for there own survival, to know the facts in truth as written. Anything short of that is unacceptable...this is pressure being born on the Christian Church from above....Know the facts as written, I read I see...very simple but who has the guts without the glory in ego.

Really know where you come from and KNOW where you are really going in the expansion.

I'm telling you, the more the Christian Church avoids this the worse it will get.


Sevens

If Christianity does not live up to its responsibility to research and go out to the ancient places it will not look good in light of Paradise/Kingdom of Heaven truth. This is Gods Secret.

Its the responsibility of the Leaders of the Churches for the congregation to go out there and verify to make sure its either right or wrong.

To pull the finger out and live up to your standards in truth and no cowering like a coward running away in denial like weakling with all the judgment.

Be a man and face and arise to the challenge and be a real witness to the world that can be demonstrated in truth and verification.

This is the time for religion to KICK GOALS for God in truth and demonstration rather than all this weakling running away stuff in denial.

Sevens

In real truth this journey to the ancient places for mankind was supposed be fun for the people of God. Its supposed to be an enjoyable journey for all mankind.

Not some laborious experience full of judgment and do nothing finding reversal in truth as demonstrated.

The Churches have to loosen up a bit and get some discovery and verification going on. Make this journey fun and a good experience for people in bringing them to Father in Heaven.

Its supposed to be beautiful experience for man in his quest for truth without all the divide and rule because it doesn't suit me thing attitude and hail my power and woe is me at the same time.

Its a worldwide Family Journey for the Families of the world having fun and being amazed at the same time where the Father touches every person in truth.

This is the will of the Father for us all this day concerning the beginnings.

This is loving secret and presentation of the Father that is unfolding on the run as foreseen in the Dead Sea Scrolls and Jesus is right here gently pushing us all along the journey.

There is one action on planet earth and that is the journey to the ancient places the beginning. This is where the full Universe Government is concentrating its energy but it all based faith and verification.

Its the test of mankind and his faith which cuts through borders and races and religion to the heart, the truth of the matter!

Its the wheel that comes from above from head to toe and mows everything down in truth. Universal Government, the Local Government System Wheel.

The Sevenfold Stargate!

Sevens

Yeah I just read that to

The Appointment of the Seven
http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Acts+6&ver=kjv

 

Perhaps in typeof the End Times and maybe pointing to the birth of the Seven End Time Church, perhaps the one that gets all the persecution from the other parts of the body as they are compromised in truth and who desire to stay that way.


The Seven men who take charge of the business of the Fathers in this Day. Today! NOW!

 

Sevens

The results of the Seven Men of today!

 

http://www.christnotes.org/bible.php?q=Acts+6&ver=kjv

 

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All the same characteristics and metaphor we find today in light of this presentation of the Seven Men.

Resistance of the truth of the matter is futile, pitting against the presentation of the Fathers little secret is Futile in the end times.

sevens

My prophecy for this day is that the Sevenfold team of the Seven Men will be born out of the truth hosted by the Seven which I think is an individual. The Seven church comes out of the old church.

Its the Sevenfold team that is blessed by the Father in truth and demonstration.

Many I feel will come from the congregation and swing over to the Seven church. The Sevenfold team is part of the Seventh Mystery, the Church of the Seventh Mystery which all about the beginnings and all the sources to be studied. and researched and presented.

I say now and declare in this moment before the Ancients of Days on this forum the Opening of the Seven Church of the Seventh Mystery.

I proclaim before the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven

The Sevenfold team of the Seventh Mystery!

Praise the Lord in the Kingdom of Heaven for all his beautiful blessings and Jesus my master and friend.

Sevens

The Seven Church of the Seventh Mystery is attached and aligned with the Sevenfold Seraphic Mission Urantia/Earth connected to the Sevenfold Scheme with its main goal to foster truth and righteousness within the hearts of mankind for mankind in truth, beauty and goodness.

The Seven Church of the Seven Mystery is part of the offices of the Most High and of the Ancients of Days and its first project to is verify all the ancient places on Earth in the testing of the Urantia Book combined with the Bible and all other associated books that contain part of the Seventh Mystery and its journey.

Its a truth and verification church of the Seven looking forward to the New World of Jesus on Earth.

Sevens

No worries for sure

All Im going to do now is foster The Seven Church of the Seventh Mystery! with a fresh new message of the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven for mankind on behalf of Jesus, my friend and the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven!

That's it! Done! I know what I must do! I have direction!

Praise the Lord!

Sevens

Today is a great day for victory! the day that The Seven Church of the Seventh Mystery was Born in realization.

Which occurred on May 1st 09, the 50th day, at the end of the 7th day of 7th Shabbes in the first period of the Shabbes timeline and on the 150th day in the Magnetar timeline.

Praise the Lord!

Sevens

D you don't even know what your talking about
Just non relevant waffle.

What's the point of having a closed study group when you all agree on the same thing.
Studying the agreed on the agreement...going in circles.

sevens

It has all the characteristics of the journey to the ancient places and the scoffers that abound from all levels including religion. It seems to be a match to the current reality.

Its the same reality today that Book of Jasher speaks of, its the same metaphor that matches the reality.

Sevens

Surprisingly there is are no forums set aside for this combining books of the end times, unfortunately I cant find a forum suited to this thing.

Regarding Satan he was defeated at Pentecost, I don't know what you talking about.

You haven't demonstrated anything only for a mere opinion.

You got to watch out accusing people of being Satan minions and particularly in your judgment upon others as you will judged accordingly. You know this from the Bible ....you should take it a little easy.

You will be Judged in your judgment upon others and as far as I'm concerned you are ripe to stay here and murmur about the truth you will have to learn.

That will be the case for those who judge others and especially where you show no demonstration except for pastor parroting without evidence. It appears to be all to shallow and on shallow ground in your judgment with pride and prejudice.

Hey I was curious, Have you ever thought what this means in the End Times

 

What would be the mystery of the Seven Churches for this day? and who is the Seven Churches for this day in the end times.

Does anyone know? Can someone interpret this for this day? What is the Mystery of the Seven Churches for this day where the Seven church is associated with the Jesus, the first and the last like the Beginning and the End or the man that comes from the beginning.

Note there are 1000s of churches today. What is the Seven Churches for this day?

Its not about winning and loosing its about the VICTORY we always had in Jesus and this journey signifies the Victory in Jesus Christ Sovereign in the realization harmonizing on all levels of knowledge.

Sevens

From the above verses

 

There is instruction to write, no doubt speaking to John. In the end times does that mean also another document written for a witness of the end times. This document written could it be another document written at the end times of the actual activation and from where it comes from in greater details where it actually manifests.

What Im saying could the above be a type for this day as another document that compliments and verifies?

sevens

Well note that I'm using bible scripture.

Also I'm thinking out loud and posing questions that no one answers.

With the UB just read it, its up to you no one compels you.

I cant see how wrong my investigation is especially when I have posted normal questions and no replies. I'm not talking about Judgment replies!

I'm not waiting for replies because I am moving forward not stopping waiting for people to reply.

Man there are all these questions and no one can answer them and in my opinion the Christian Church has no idea what the Mystery is for our day.

What is it? the mystery. We are supposed to know everything right! that there is to be known right! Everyone claims to know everything in there judgment.

Well what is the Seventh Mystery or the Seven Seals or the mystery of the Seven Churches and everything else that relates to Seven.

Obviously its still a mystery and hidden according to John and that will be revealed at the end but who knows what it is in detail.

This topic would be a good study group thing of the Seventh Mystery for the end times.



Sevens

Sinner bro, I'm looking man ahahaha, is there something that you see that I have overlooked? or am I looking into the right verses where there is a big point to be made.

If there is I would be interested in your view point of what you discovered.
I'm sure it would be good.

III have a another look at those chapters of Acts. Great chapters and and is nothing different to what we see today in spirit.

Something new out of the old and judged and persecuted instantly where they close there ears and eyes from the truth of the matter. Essentially cowards trying to save there shallow skins in the reply in light of truth.

I have no doubt the same persecution/judgment cycle will ensue for this day of the end times. It just seems to me like a typical human trait. Everyone protecting there class house at there level of knowledge and who will not look into anything else related to the same subject with due diligence.
 

I believe we have a Noah scenario on our hands as expressed by Jasher.

Sevens

Honestly you have to read cover to cover and look at the evidence already available and make your own assessment. That's all I can say.

However, for me knowing and living the UB, I love the Bible more than ever before and I really appreciate all the prophets in and out of the bible who were pointing to this time.

My understanding of things have increased.

But that is my experience everyone is different or varied in the way they see things.

The whole thing UB and the books need a good going over with a fine tooth come and see how it harmonizes in the evidence and verification.

Whatever the last mystery is, it will be unbreakable and which will be mans defense in tribulation, in truth.

The UB needs a panel of people from Christianity to review and go out there and verify.

Personally, I believe it has been designed that Bible and the UB work together in the commonality to bring out the truth of the matter in order to strengthen Christianity going through test. The Test of the truth! the test of mans faith in transition. To bring about correction of false views and attitudes.

Sevens

D I think you are off target with limited range.

I'm not even using the UB just biblical script and making moves. Not wasting time with petty views.

sevens

D, I think you wasting yourself time in your attitude.


What's so deceitful about a book that speaks of Eden of Cyprus and we did 2 expeditions there and verified the wall as spoken about not to mention the Mount of Adoration and Jesus is attached to this book in the record.

It was written and we where there in our own way and verified the stone wall, the mount of Adoration and many more things that needs to verified in a 3rd expedition.

Nothing wrong with that and quite normal. We just simply read the book went there and it was there.

Nothing deceitful about that. I think your just simply paranoid.

I think its great that all the books point to 1stEden and the journey to the ancient places, the beginnings of mankind in the whole story and we can go there NOW! and change history and elevate Christianity to great plains of truth and understanding.

With out fear!

I think Christianity is quivering on the brink of a major uplift and a great completion in the spiritual journey to our origins.

Its this kind of revelatory uplift that man will respect in the future because he can read and see and go by faith in complete truth.

It will be very good for man and he will benefit greatly and increase in truth and have more peace within himself knowing that his future is assured in the paths of Jesus our Lord. Once and for all in final demonstration on truth!


Sevens

I just read your post, very interesting, Moloch is Baalim today and from my research its related to property ownership and fertility.

The Pharisees, did they sacrifice babies?? in the name of Moloch...I would find that strange!

"Today the Pharisees are called Zionists and the star is called "The Star of David"

My feeling is the Pharisees had much to loose with Jesus around and more to loose with the apostles converting people to early Christianity, Jesus full well knowing they would be persecuted and most put to death. I'm sure the Jewish religious leaders are different today than in those days and the star would have a more evolved meaning.

The same persecution can happen today, especially through a tribulation and in the same way as in Jesus' time, the new out of the old.

Have you ever thought the "Star of David" for our day in the End Times is the Local System Government Headquarters from where the only Light without Heat Magnetar came from?? And Zion is the uplifted Church of Jesus and ministry of the Holy Spirit within man in full knowledge as being the real temple of the Father in Heaven in full relationship with him? Not a building! Perhaps Zion comes as a major revelation that is unbreakable!

Actually, if you draw lines between the attendant spheres that surround a dark space body near the Local System Government Headquarters the shape is a star of David. That was the first symbol I noticed in the discovery.

Sevens



Sevens

I think I'm right and there is nothing you can demonstrate to me that I am wrong.

I could be so wrong in your prejudice and rebellion and you wouldn't even know it or it wouldn't even occur to you in your runaway blindness in limitation and failure to research all things entirely.

Sevens

I think I'm right and there is nothing you can demonstrate to me that I am wrong.

You could be so wrong in your prejudice and rebellion and you wouldn't even know it or it wouldn't even occur to you in your runaway blindness in limitation and failure to research all things entirely.

 

People I'm not familiar with. Who are they?

Paths path. Jesus path OK.

Try this PATH

 

What garden would that be on Earth that leads to Heaven??

Wouldnt be 1stEden by any chance?? and the Seven is the activator in the document which could be the testimony of the Ark? Its a possibility from where I sit.

Sevens

D

What is New Age? you seem to know more than me, lost ignorance. I don't follow New Age teachings.


Petra that sounds like a good idea.

sevens

Here is a video on the effects of Magnetar on our Earth.

I believe its possible for Magnetar to effect a EMP blackout of the earth and could be consistent to what might happen on the Earth regarding evacuation and from where the problems come from. From Magnetar!

This video backs my hunches about Magnetar about its devastating effects.

I think this is news worthy.

Sudden Cosmic Global Warming
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgcd3diP ... re=related

Sevens

Well, you can see the effect on planet earth from the Magnetar blast and it recorded by science. If there was a more severe blast I'm sure it would have a further effect on the planet.

Surely this is logical and something to look out for. I'm sure its happened before and who knows what the effects where then particularly with freak weather changes.

Here are a few links that could be of interest and consider these we have an electrical society and therefore makes us vulnerable to this kind of thing.

curious

Magnetosphere March 23 & 24 - 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwiKt3KW ... re=related

what's going on.

Significant Magnetic Field Angle Dip March 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyFAoMfV ... re=related

UBtheNEWS: Inner Ionosphere Discovered
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jFjnhVW ... re=related

Magnetosphere April 8-9 2009 Confirmed GRB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1xyg4xM ... re=related

Comet C/2009 G1 ~ Total Crossing April 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7ucPrJh ... re=related

4 19 2009 Magnetosphere Confirmed GRB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uW_g5Jh ... re=related

Mysterious Phenomenon In Tovoturinskaya In Russia, Lights Up An Area Of 400 Square Kilometers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgyWAety ... re=related


Sevens

No worries,

I agree I think its something to look out for and just keep it in the back of your mind.

You can actually see a magnetar and its blasts does effect our planet.

Speaking religiously, personally its a contender for it be LIKE the Star of David in metaphor and its blast that we encounter for this day. Obviously, it can broadcast an effect on this planet in directionalised gamma rays.

I'm just saying its a contender in the description and the star could be a type for these magnetars and its effects.

Just a thought on that one.

In the way I see things, it all matches.

One thing for sure if there was a whopper blast from a close by Magnetar it would most likely shut down the planet along with the sudden weather changes and we would be burnt by its gamma, XRay and IR rays with no protection.

If that did happen it would like the Star of David in Metaphor of Judgment.

If it was really BAD another Magnetar Blast where the evolution of Man is endangered, this would give grounds for rapture or Evacuation of the Salvable!

It has also been demonstrated that these Magnetar Blasts can happen suddenly! in a flash!


Sevens

I know I might cop a bagging but this is related to the journey of the ancient places the beginnings and connects with space on all levels and it started from the Month Dalamatia City was located.

I reckon Judgment is coming from the beginnings and Space and both will work in Parallel along the path in the timeline.

I got this strong feeling man! I don't think these little discoveries and realizations happen for nothing and especially in the sequence of the timeline and the conversation. I believe manifestation is very possible and can be very real for us in this time of the end times.

It seems that weird things have been happening to our Magnetosphere in this timeline.

What did Jesus say about looking up!

Magnetar irradiation I believe is the fires of Judgment and if one of those directionalised flashes was on us for 15 seconds and were powerful it would mean literally,  Hell of Earth along with the Roar of God from Space.

I wonder what the Lord says about beacons. Like beacons that also have the power of destruction through its flashes!

Its alot bigger than the politics of mankind and its wars of doctrine its literally about the survival of the best of the species based on the Universal Spiritual standards of Jesus Sovereign, Ruler of the Universe.

 

Here is an article I found on another forum which I believe points to havoc that comes from Space and supports the above posts.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/fo ... =0&start=0

 

Sevens

That article I posted in legitimate article I cant see what's so nutter about it. We have also seen evidence of the effect of a GRB magnetar on Earth from light years away in its directionalised Gamma rays.

What if eh! What if NASA is right in there predictions?
Sevens

No Worries, I see what your saying about past predictions and the evidence seems to back that to. But these Magnetars could be different and very active and they do affect the planet in an instant which has been demonstrated.

Oh Well we just have to see what occurs in this case.

Although, I do feel a little quickened from my own experience and journey and therefore I'm on watch alert for me that is. Everyone is different in the way they see things on this matter.

Ahh see what happens but I understand there has been many false predictions and 2012 could be a real flop but you never know until we are there.

Sevens

I thought this was interesting

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2009/05/neutr ... eel-2.html

 

sevens

Hi I was wondering if anyone had any idea what the Seven Seals are.

Im interested to know what other people think of the loosened Sevens Seals that revelation speaks of.

What is the actual Sevens Seals?

Any interpretation to offer?

Sevens

Hi Petra,

Its awfully compelling, both verses seem to have relevance considering the effect of such a thing.

 

Maybe the moon reflects this massive directionalised light from the Sevenfold source and its unique. In the way I see things perhaps this light comes from the Sevenfold headquarters or the Local System Government headquarters from its Stargate.

What I call the Sevenfold Stargate based on my journey or our journey.

Maybe light from the judgment seat. Maybe its the Sevenfold light from the Judgment seat?? It shall come in one day and it will verify the story and heal the wounds of those evacuated. Maybe?

or maybe its the actual judgment. It appears to shine at night with the moon lit up Seven times.

It seems to run in parallel to the Sevenfold journey.

The sevenfold is definitely mentioned.

Is this another sun that is being described? other than our own Sun? The Sevenfold Light????
"the light of the sun shall be sevenfold"
but it appears to be speaking of the light of the sun. Food for thought.


"breach of his people"
Would the above mean the division amongst his people?

sevens

I wouldn't know how the Sun would get hotter by Seven times unless it was dying.

I'm thinking, it would be something else which would have more power and luminosity  than the Sun by Seven. Unless its light without heat light that is seven times more bright.

Whatever it is, our Earth could not stand it and the Earth would be scorched and where people are saved at the same time perhaps.

Sevens

No worries,

Do you think the events in heaven have relevance on Earth? Why speak it if there is no relevance! It would be just a waste of time wouldn't it.

On Earth as it is in Heaven would be just Sophistry wouldn't it?

Sevens

Like I said, where ever the Taliban and Al Qaeda walk and touch through there last rebel backed sophistry they become a walking curse where ever they go.

What ever they touch, brings about death and destruction.

Where ever there feet go they bring about death to many a family. The are completely ROGUE

They are an accursed people on this planet through there actions and sophistry alone. Death and destruction follow them and nothing good comes from these people.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/811543 ... extremists

Sharia Islamic Law will never ever rule this planet, if anything it will be destroyed by the Kingdom of Heaven along with the Last Rebel.

We can see the witness of Sharia and how it brings death and destruction to families who are innocent and drives people to war where they should be building a family to add to civilization.

Even countries ruled by Sharia law have there drug problems to like any other system. Sharia does not deliver people from drugs and does not bring peace to a person in a normal mind.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/811683 ... ug-addicts

It will be and has been demonstrated that Sharia is not connected to the Kingdom of Heaven in truth, its a far cry from the truth of all things. It will never last in its current form. Its to unintelligent and belligerent in arrogance to God.

All these so called religions are going and will be destroyed because the witness is very poor and really is an apostasy.

I think God is not going to help Islam except for individuals in the religion who sincerely seek the truth of everything. The rest will be dropped.

All the rituals to seek Gods approval have no effect and is not heard by God as they walk in death and destruction.

Islam is a failed religion like a failed state. Paradise will not go the Islam way in death and destruction.

It does not even live up to the basic tenets of Paradise. I know the religion of Islam is in big trouble with the Father and a death blow will be meted out to Islam.

The only people that will survive are the children of Jesus, the Sovereign and that is it!
 

Sevens

Do you really believe the Pope has this deep respect for Islam.

I doubt it!

Pope stresses 'deep respect' for Islam
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=811445

It sounds like a marketing plan.

But then again he is attempting to mend a bridge and you have to respect that but I think its futile. Islam is already on a runaway course to its own death and destruction, according to its own witness in its pride, prejudice, imposition in ignorance, death and destruction brought upon families.

Personally, I see no future for Islam. The US Government and its people has far more future than Islam simply because they are smarter and more intelligent and do know God (deep down) and the consequences of being outside the will of God .

On the survival ladder Islam does not rate and Muhammad was not and is not the last messenger and the Quran is wrong in many aspects as that book has been really fiddled by man in his pride and prejudice in hatred of the other guy in response. All its information about Jesus is completely wrong, purposely and emotively written and is false and can never be relied upon. The only way out for Islam is the Urantia Book as the base line and the Bible that would fix up the religion but as we all know that will never happen because of much pride, prejudice, ignorance tied with arrogance.

To me the Quran was inspired by the same thing that inspired the book, course of miracles. I don't believe it came from Gabriel because Gabriel does not communicate through silly trances and possessions of the last rebel.

Gabriel communicates normally, like in the case of Elizabeth and Mary. Just appears, delivers the message and departs.

Moses was never possessed by some thing, the Lord spoke to him in the same way as Mary and Elizabeth, appeared in Light without Heat glory delivered the message and departed.


Sevens

As far as I'm concerned there is an open invitation to all religion to the ancient places and all its truth and if no one responds to the party then God does not come to the party when they expect.

sevens

You don't think we should be concerned about the Seven Seals?? you don't think its significant to the end times?

Why is that? What's you rationale on that?

By the way what's your opinion on the book that the Seven seals loosened. Why is it a man that loosens the seals. If its a book from heaven why does a man loosen the seals of the book?

Must have relevance to this planet in the end times as expressed by Daniel and John.

Come on man. Its heavenly core business relating to the business of man on this planet at the end.

Sevens