The City and Rising of the Sun Study
A group of posts that look at certain aspect
legend giving us clues as to the location of Dilmun to the East. Also Im
trying to find value and weight in the journey to the ancient places.
Upon further
analysis of the above and this particular verse
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"6 And they shall go up and tread under foot
the land of His elect ones
And the land of His elect ones shall be before
them a threshing-floor and a highway
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It really sounds like in the moment stuff as those who can go and explore the
ancient foundations may very well go to the lost cities and discover the seven
commands.
The land of the elect from my prospective is the ancient foundations
namely Dalamatia. Its is the land that the elect is relying on to bring out the
ultimate truth of the matter. Its is the land of the elect who look for as the
path to the unfolding the final mystery. It is also the land that the Elect look
for in having total faith in the Father that he will being everything to it
ultimate conclusion as seen beforehand.
All I can say is that by those who go there to discover its mystery are actually
laying a path towards the places are entering the threshing place
where truth with Paradise endorsement happens. The ultimate mystery of mankind
for his destiny.
The following Nostradamus quatrain could relate to Enoch extracts.
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81
The royal bird over the city
of the Sun,
(Dalamatia image or it might be about Dilmun )
Seven months in advance it will deliver a
nocturnal omen: (7 months in the beforehand experience to the event?
or in the Seven month in the relevant year where judgment will occur, the
sleeping Omen arises)
The Eastern wall will fall lightning
thunder, (A shift will occurs through revealment and knowledge.)
Seven days the enemies directly to the
gates. |
Below is what I think.
The royal bird over the city of the Sun,
The Royal bird I see seems to reflect Dilmun.
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia/Dalamatia2.jpg
By the way "the city of
the Sun" is Equated to Dilmun. Nostradamus must be referring to one of these
ancient foundations. Dilmun was the home of the fallen angels that began the
race of the Nodites. Understanding that Dilmun imported there myths and
legends of the glory of the Gods from Dalamatia. When you read the
descriptions of Dilmun, they are in essence really describing Dalamatia by
proxy, the first place when the times were good.
In the following is a
link of the the following descriptions of Dilmun found on Sumerian texts.
http://www.piney.com/BabEpicParad2.html
"From the bright covering of thy great heaven
may the waters flow,
May the city be refreshed with water, may it
drink,
May Dilmun be refreshed with water, may it
drink,
May the deep of bitter water flow as a deep of
sweet water.
May the city be a resting, an abode of the
people,
May Dilmun be a resting, an abode of the
people.
Now, O sun-god, shine forth,
O sun-god, stand in heaven;
Bring open water from the womb of the land!
[And] fish, O moon-god, from the water.
In the water-course on the face of the land, O
earth's sweet water come!
That from the bright covering of the great
heavens water may flow,
Its city be refreshed, may drink,
Dilmun be refreshed, may drink,
The deep of bitter water flow as a deep of
sweet water,
The fields and meadows....
The city be a house for the multitutes of the
land,
Dilmun be a house for the multitudes of the
land.
To shine may the sun-god come forth--let it be
so.
He who alone is wise (i.e. Enki)
To Nintu, mother of the land....
Dilmun is one of the
Ancient places that Nostradamus is directly referring to.
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/babel/gallery/index.htm
Seven months in advance it will deliver a
nocturnal omen: I see this as the message and the images where revealed
beforehand . Perhaps in Seven months time the Omen or message attached to the
places comes to light,
The Eastern wall will fall lightning thunder,
Perhaps when the sleeping Omen awakes, major changes happen particularly in the
East within there religion. Perhaps all those killing in the name of God through
erroneous doctrine see Paradise respond.
Seven days the enemies directly to the gates.
Maybe Dalamatia is the snare which captures the enemy its a trap!! A trap that
is set to be sprung
I thought the following Nostradamus quatrain was interesting as well.
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C1 Q 56
The great amount of silver of Diana and
Mercury
The images will be seen in the lake
(1st Susa the
confirmation. This is exactly what we have seen The city in a lake as
speculated before finding this quatrain, another beforehand experience only
to find it late written about.)
The sculptor looking for new clay.
(New truth and enlightenment through discovery of the ancient places
pointing to all the books.)
He and his followers will be soaked in gold.
(the path of truth, beauty and goodness will be blessed and rewarded.)
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Anyway its all interesting
Amazing that the Sumerian
tablets were found in the 1800's which refers to the "The City of the Sun" as
being Dilmun and Nostradamus is referring to the same "City of the Sun" and its
purpose in the 1500s. Incredible, surely this must provide authenticity of
Nostradamus experience?
here is another view of
the Elysian fields
http://www.crystalinks.com/elysium.html
The tower that the many builded,
in mystery
looked for One, who coming down would build
on earth a tower that lifts up to Heaven.
Like the mystery in the ancient places which
include Babel, 1st Susa and Dalamatia.
Blessings
sevens
Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:06
am Post subject:
Consider the
following reference to the Elysian fields which Parallels Dilmun as being
connected to the Elysian fields.
In the following is another Nostradamus quatrain.
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97
The forces of the sea divided into three
parts, 3 locations of the ancient foundations.
The second one will run out of supplies,
The 2nd expedition runs out of supplies.
In despair looking for the Elysian Fields,
(Elysian fields is directly related to Dilmun direct but is in metaphor to
1stEden as the places are all the Elysian fields in real truth.)
The first ones to enter the breach will
obtain the victory. "The Breach of Dilmun" Isaiah connection.
(This above appears to be describing the expeditions to the ancient places
(the Elysian fields) Dilmun is directly related to the Elysian fields and
the term Elysian fields can be found in Greek mythology as the land of the
Gods) The Elysian fields could also mean all the ancient submerged locations
relating to the land of the Gods) |
So maybe Dilmun where the Tower of Babel maybe the place where everything
unfolds?? Nostradamus and the books seem to pointing to the location!
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia/dilmun.jpg
Dilmun could be were
the Saga may unfold!! Could very well be.
Here is the Dilmun Link to the Elysian fields in the Wikipedia, Note that the
general description is a land of the Gods.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elysian
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| The Elysian Fields lay
on the western margin of the earth, by the encircling stream of Oceanus, and
there the mortal relatives of the king of the gods were transported,
without tasting death, to enjoy an
immortality of bliss (the land of the Gods
Dalamatia City in truth but adopted by the Nodites through there own cities.
The Dilmuns, reflections of the tree of life in Dalamatia City The true land
of immortality back then.) (Odyssey 4.563). Lesser spirits were less
fortunate: an eerie passage describes the twittering bat-like ghosts of
Penelope's slain suitors, led by Hermes:
"down the dank
moldering paths and past the Ocean's streams
(could be the the
divided channels outside the
headwaters of the Persian Gulf when the rivers flowed parallel to the outer
coastlines and then (Berbian Shelf) eventually flowed into the sea) they went
and past the White Rock
(the beacon) and the
Sun's Western Gates (The heads)
and past
the
Land of Dreams,
(reflections of submerged
Dalamatia city represented by Dilmun) and soon they
reached the fields of asphodel where the dead, the burnt-out wraiths of mortals make their home"
(Odyssey 24.5-9, translation by Robert Fagles)
3rd November
insert
The above seems to be also clues to the location of Dilmun to the East
The possible location of
Dilmun to the East
another image of the area of
ancient Persian Gulf
Hesiod refers to the Isles of the Blessed
(makarôn nêsoi) in the Western Ocean (Works and Days). Pindar makes it a
single island. Walter
Burkert notes the connection with
the motif of far-off Dilmun:
"Thus Achilles is transported to the White Isle and becomes the Ruler of the
Black Sea, and Diomedes becomes the divine lord of an Adriatic island."[3]
In Elysium were fields of the pale liliaceous
asphodel, and poplars grew. There stood the gates that led to the house
of Ais (in Attic dialect "Hades"). The place of Judgement?
Elysium in Literature
Among the poets to interpret Elysium is
Virgil, who describes an encounter there between Aeneas and his father
Anchises. Virgil's Elysium knows perpetual spring and shady groves, with its
own sun and lit by its own stars solemque suum, sua sidera norunt (Aeneid
book vi:541).
In the Renaissance, the heroic population of
the Elysian Fields tended to outshine its formerly dreary pagan reputation;
the Elysian Fields borrowed some of the bright allure of paradise.
In Paris, the Champs-Elysees retain their
name of the Elysian Fields, first applied in the late 16th century to a
formerly rural outlier beyond the formal parterre gardens behind the royal
French palace of the Tuileries.
After the Renaissance, as popular poets
became less influenced by reading Greek and Latin literature, and images of
Valhalla entered the popular European imagination, an even cheerier Elysium
evolved for some poets. Sometimes it is imagined as a place where heroes
have continued their interests from their lives. Others suppose it is a
location filled with feasting, sport, song; Joy is the "daughter of Elysium"
in Friedrich Schiller's Ode to Joy.
Dante had a very different idea of the
Elysian Fields - he described them as the very upper level of hell, a place
of peace that the unbaptized and the non-believers who lived virtuous lives
go. It is a place of happiness, but it is closed off from God and thus
remains as hell.
Elysium in Neopaganism
Many Neopagans today, particularly Hellenic
neopagans in the United States, have what most would consider a new-age view
of Elysium. Elysium is seen as a multi-layered paradise, or Heaven, to many
modern neopagans. Some believe that the outer layer of Elysium is
composed of great and beautiful fields, often envisioned in imaginative
descriptions as having green glowing blades of grass and bubbling springs of
glowing water and wine, often made from the nectar of Ambrosia.
Beyond the fields of Elysium, reserved only for the
most righteous and virtuous, is the Golden City
where spirits exist in a state of constant euphoria. Whether or
not such beliefs are based in actual mythology often seems rather
unimportant to many neopagans. Most claim that old myths are simply mortal
accounts and interpretations of the divine, but the same could be argued
about any current beliefs regarding Elysium. Much of what many modern
neopagans believe today regarding Elysium seems to be borrowed from popular
Christian imagery of Heaven.
more in the wikipedia
In the
Renaissance, the heroic population of the Elysian Fields tended to
outshine its formerly dreary pagan reputation; the Elysian Fields borrowed
some of the bright allure of
paradise.
In Paris, the
Champs-Élysées retain their name of the Elysian Fields, first applied in
the late
16th century to a formerly rural outlier beyond the formal
parterre
gardens behind the royal French palace of the
Tuileries. |
This may explain Nostradamus reflection with the
Elysian fields but I do feel its points to the current discussion of Dilmun.
The Elysian fields are directly connected to
Paradise.
Dilmun, Nostradamus and the current Saga all connect.
Here is another view
http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Mythology/Elysium.html
All essentially says the same thing.
Here is another view of
the Elysian fields before the fall. However it appears to be a description of
Dalamatia.
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The Latin world perpetuated most of the
same themes. Ovid, in the Metamorphoses, points to some of the bad things
people did not have to worry about: "Golden was
that first age which ... without a law of its own will
kept faith and did the right. There was no fear of punishment. No
threatening words were to be read on brazen tablets; no suppliant throng
gazed fearfully on its judge's face, but without judges lived secure. ...
There was no need at all of armed men, for
nations, secure from war's alarms, passed the years in gentle
ease. |
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1141/is_n44_v31/ai_17634103
Here is another
remarkable extract from the
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1141/is_n44_v31/ai_17634103/pg_2
This is a very big confirmation!!!! and confirms what I been saying the whole
time
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A persistent
theory for many centuries suggested that in this Paradise the just awaited
the resurrection and final judgment -- which early believers
generally thought was closer at hand than we seem to think.
One such view was that Paradise (or ex-paradise)
was in some remote part of the earth, preserved in its original state but
inaccessible except to those possessing a special passport and an angelic
guide. This was connected to the wide belief in the early centuries
that when Jesus made his promise to the good
thief, he was technically reopening the earthly Paradise out of which
God had booted Adam and Eve. |
and this
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Gham / ghomeh’ (above, in
that order), and ghan g | ? (below left), in
symbol and metaphor, encompass the sacred garden of eternity, the
rich soil and breasts of life, the fluid humus of anticipation, the river of
sustenance, sustainment, and nurture.
Ghan (to the left) represents the fertile fields of the Crown of Creation,
the eternal fields of the heavens, the Elysian
fields of those blessed by LOVE: living
blossoms opening beneath the ETERNAL SUN of ’ELOHIM* ’AH_VAH, the ONE TRUE
GOD of LOVE |
from this
http://www.messiah.org/messiah-torah-3.htm
Here is some
Sumerian and Persian Tablets with familiar ensigns to seen in the images of
Dalamatia and possibly Dilmun.
Aquatic - Enki - Sumer - Zoroaster above Tree of Life - Persia
The above tablet seems to have a message that I feel reveals the purpose of the
Gods and this place as depicted. I notice the tree of life where the
fruits are gathered for the Gods, it must be Dalamatia, the first place, I
notice that a Ostrich is snared by a solider, perhaps adjudication, I also
notice another solider with a sword. The place must be submerged as
depicted by the Fish priests, the angels preserving the place for the final
message.
The above seal could
be a prophecy in the making, the message might come from Iran as indicated by
the ancient Seal where everything is dealt with in final for the next thousand
years!
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Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:06 am Post subject:
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Here is the meaning of the Persian faravahar which is the Seal in the above
tablet, its not to far from what I have found previously about the Persian
connection to the ancient places which is connected to the "Ahura Mazda" the
secondary midwayers mentioned in the Urantia Book who are directly related
to the progeny of the eldest Son of Adam, here is the vestiges of the
Adamson civilisation in North Eastern Iran.
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/Adamsons/index.html
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Scholars disagree about just what the
symbolism of the Persian faravahar indicates. Is it
a symbolic image of Ahura Mazda,
the Zoroastrian name for the One God, the
"Wise Lord?" If it represented Assur for the Assyrians, is it
Ahura Mazda for the Persians? Many scholarly writings on the image still
identify it as such. But in the Zoroastrian faith, Ahura Mazda is
abstract and transcendent. God has no image and so cannot be represented
in any form. |
taken from here
http://www.crystalinks.com/faravahar.html
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Ea stands in his watery home the Apsu.
Yes, ready for the final judgment of man and angels, Ea or better still Jesus
will arise with the message from the past.
All seems to be the same story.
Either Dalamatia or Dilmun.
another image from Egypt
Z as Thoth holding
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The image above could be a
link to the mystery to the Great Pyramid
and a description of the
bird headed Gods, the first ones in Dalamatia who gave knowledge to man.
images taken from this
link
http://www.crystalinks.com/dilmun.html
Here is a link to the
History of the Faravahar, I
think it has connection to current mystery and originates through Dilmun.
http://www.crystalinks.com/faravahar.html
Extract
History of the Faravahar
The history of the Faravahar
design begins in ancient Egypt, with a stylized bird pattern which is known
as the spread-eagle.
A spread-eagle as it
is called in heraldry - features a flying bird shown from below, with its
wings, tail, and legs outstretched.
Such designs have been used
in cultures throughout history, including American, where the seal of the
U.S. Government features a spread-eagle.
An Egyptian spread-eagledevice
is featured in the treasure of Tut-ankh-amoun which has a bird's body with a
human head, and in which hieroglyphic symbols are held in the outstretched
talons. These features will later re- appear, transformed, in the Faravahar.
Closer still to the Faravahar
are Egyptian designs which feature a sun-disc with wings. This winged
sun-disc represents Horus, the hawk-god believed by the ancient Egyptians to
be incarnate in Pharaoh, the god-king.
The winged disc was from the
beginning a symbol of divine kingship, or the divine favor upon a king.
Very early on (second
millennium B.C.) this design had migrated from Egypt to the ancient Near
East. It appears above the carved figure of a Hittite king, (The Hittites
flourished from about 1400-1200 B.C.) symbolizing a god's favor in the
spread-eagle form.
In Syria it is shown on a
seal from the Mitanni civilization (c.1450-1360 BC).
The proto-Faravahar symbol
may also have a native Mesopotamian origin, which was combined with the
Egyptian symbol in ancient Assyria.
Assyrian art also associates
the winged disc with divinity and divine protection of the king and people.
It appears both with and
without a human figure.
Without the human figure, it
is a symbol of the sun-god Shamash, but with the human figure, it is the
symbol of the Assyrian national god Assur. This appears on many carvings and
seals. The Assyrian versions of the winged disc sometimes have the kingly
figure inside the disc, and others have him arising from within the disc in
a design that is very close to the Faravahar as it appears in Persian art.
The graphic evolution from the spread-eagle is evident in the
stylized Assyrian version of the design, where the bird's legs are
abstracted into wavy streamers on either side of the disc which end either
in claws or in scrolls, as they do in the Persian design.
By the time of the Achaemenid
kings (dynasty flourished from about 600 B.C. to 330 B.C.), then, the design
that would become the Faravahar had already been in use for at least 1000
years, from Egypt to Syria and then to Assyria. The early Achaemenids
conquered Mesopotamian lands in the 6th century B.C., and re-patriated all
the peoples subject to Babylonian rule, the Jews among them. These same
Achaemenids also adopted Assyrian and Babylonian motifs for their monumental
art, including the winged disc.
The Persian Faravahar is
carved on the rock-cut tombs of the Achaemenid kings at Bisetoon in Iran,
and varies from one carving to the other. In one it is very much like the
Assyrian version, with squared-off wavy wings. But it is in the carvings of
Persepolis, center of the Achaemenid dynasty, that the Faravahar reaches its
most elaborate and finely wrought perfection. The Faravahar of Persepolis is
the one that has been adopted by Zoroastrians as their symbol.
More can be found here
http://www.crystalinks.com/faravahar.html
and
The revelation of Zarathushtra from the
beginning has been associated with light. The Gathas are filled with light
and sun imagery; light is not only physical, but metaphysical, the prime
symbol for Goodness and God. Thus the khvarenah in Zoroastrian
teaching, though specified to the glory of the King, also
has a much more universal meaning.
According to Zoroastrian scholar Dr.
Farhang Mehr, the khvarenah is granted to
those human beings who are great benefactors of the world: good kings
and rulers, prophets like Zarathushtra, or heroes. In the Gathas, these
benefactors are called saoshyant, an Avestan word which means "saviour."
In later Zoroastrianism the term
saoshyant acquires a messianic, mythical meaning, and this Saoshyant
also enjoys the blessing of the khvarenah. Thus khvarenah
also has the meaning of God's Grace. But is this grace only for the Great
Ones of the World, or do we lesser folk have - khvarenah, too?
As Mehr has written, the khvarenah is
enfolded within everyone. With those who are great in virtue, it is
more radiant and powerful. Our work on this Earth is
to grow in goodness and thus show forth our own God-given khvarenah,
which is the light of our excellence. This, then, is what the Winged Disc
signifies both for the ancients and for us: the
shining khvarenah, or "farr."
and
Zoroaster Prophecy - Saoshyant
Saoshyant refers to one who will "make
existence brilliant" in the Zoroastrian religion. Literally, the term
means "one who brings benefit."
In common usage, this term refers to a future
savior or Messiah-figure, who will spread divine truth and lead humanity in
the final battle against the forces of evil.
In Zoroaster's own writings, the Gathas, the
term is used to refer to his own prophetic mission and to the community of
his followers, who 'bring benefit' to humanity.
In later Zoroastrian doctrine it is envisaged
that there will be three future Saoshyants, who will restore order
when the world has fallen into chaos. These will be born of virgins from the
miraculously preserved seed of the prophet Zoroaster himself.
The last Saoshyant will bring about the
final judgement of humanity and will
secure the harmony of the world.
Since He is (the One) to be chosen by the
world therefore the judgment emanating from truth
itself (to be passed) on the deeds of good thought of the world,
as well as the power, is committed to Mazda Ahura
whom (people) assign as a shepherd to the poor."
--Yasna 27:13, the Ahuna Vairya prayer
In some cases, this term is used as a plural,
saoshyans, to refer to religious leaders.
In Iran and India Zoroastrians and others,
still use this name for males.
It is speculated that this Zoroastrian belief
in a Saoshyant influenced the Jewish belief in a Messiah.
http://www.crystalinks.com/zsaoshyant.html
Here are some scenarios of the end times in
different cultures that we are in.
http://www.crystalinks.com/eschatology.html
Sevens
More can be found in this
thread in this end time forum
Dalamatia, the original home of the Gods
http://www.thendtimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=950&start=120
You might have to join.
More on the go information
can found here
Quote:
Rev 7:217
2 Then I saw another angel ascend from
the rising of
the sun, with the seal of the
living God, and he called with a loud voice to the four angels who
had been given power to harm earth and sea,
3 saying, "Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, till we
have sealed the servants of our God upon their foreheads."
4 And I heard the number of the sealed, a hundred and forty four
thousand sealed, out of every tribe of the sons of Israel,
Could the above be directly connected with this Journey and discovery of the
Ancient places in the connection of "another angel ascend from the
rising of the sun" particularly the term "rising of the sun"
Could this term be linked to the references to Dilmun in its relation to "the
rising of the sun". Could this journey and what is uncovered as in the cities
of the rising sun, the seal, and its through the test of faith, that the elect
of 144,000 as mentioned in the Revelations that are selected and caught up
with God ready for the new world.
References "to the rising sun" seal which I think is the
seventh mystery and the submerged cities.
Another reference
Quote:
"Isaiah 42 25 I have raised up one from the
north, and he shall come: from
the rising of the sun shall he
call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon morter, and as the
potter treadeth clay."
another from Isaiah
Quote:
6 That they may know from
the rising of the sun, and from the west,
that there is none beside me. I am the Lord, and there is none else
Here is another from an unexpected source
Quote:
Abu Hurairah said,
"The Prophet (sal-Allaahu 'alayhe wa sallam) said, 'There are three
things which, when they appear, no good will it do a soul to believe in
them then, if it believed not before nor earned righteousness through its
Faith. They are: The Dajjaal, the Beast, and
the rising of the sun from the
west.'
that was interesting
Malachi 1 11 For from the
rising of the sun
even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the
Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure
offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the Lord of
hosts
nostradamus
Quote:
The royal bird over the city of the
Sun, (Dalamatia image) insert this could refer to
Dilmun of the East
Seven months in advance it will deliver a nocturnal omen:
The Sumerians about Dilmun
Dilmun, sometimes described as "the place where the sun rises"
and "the Land of the Living" is the scene of a Sumerian
creation myth and the place where the deified Sumerian hero of the flood,
Ziusudra (Utnapishtim), was taken by the gods to live for ever.
Note the connection Sumerian Noah, Babel was built in Dilmun. The seal is
connected to these cities that are arising in truth.
sevens
Here is a link to the
ongoing forum section that contain
these relevant posts in the actual timeline and context of discovery in the
journey to the ancient places.
and now this discovery
posted
11-02-2007 08:47 PM
Here is thumb of some thoughts of
Dilmun to the east near the headwaters of the Persian Gulf.
Myth unlocking more of the truth.
Clues to Dilmun to the East of Dalamatia built by the Nodites
The rising of the sun
an extract
quote:
This submerged valley/plain/edinu would be the lost world of the Mesopotamian
Dream-Time, the source of their later legends about the beginning of things.
For those espousing Mesopotamian roots for Genesis fantasies, it could also be
the land of Eden, in an eastern part of which the Garden was planted.
Dilmun at the place where the sun rises, said
to be located on a river bank at the
Place of Crossing
http://oi.uchicago.edu/research/library/ane/digest/2001/v2001.n203
Sevens
Remember these extracts from the Urantia Book.
line 69: After the
submergence of Dalamatia the Nodites moved
north and east,
presently founding the new city of Dilmun
as their racial and cultural headquarters.
and this
The central group remained in the
immediate vicinity of their original home
near the headwaters of the Persian Gulf
Here are further studies into the
2 Dilmuns
More thoughts on Dilmun
to the East
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