The
beginning,
Tablet 1
Riven I thought I would throw this one in. It might be
related to the interview which led to writing of the Timeas and Critias 200
years later by Plato. Correct me if I am wrong Plato wrote this interview 363BC
and the interview with the Egyptian priests was 200 years previous. So that
would make the beginning of the record 563BC or around 600BC.
The interview could very well be another manifestation of the following knowing
that this would serve for future events that could be related to mans future
destiny spiritually. It could be all related to something i found in the The UB
more food for thought dj Michael
line 111: About six hundred years before the arrival of Michael, it seemed to
Melchizedek, long since departed from the flesh, that the purity of his teaching
on earth was being unduly jeopardized by general absorption into the older
Urantia beliefs. It appeared for a time that his mission as a forerunner of
Michael might be in danger of failing. And in
the sixth century before Christ, through an unusual co-ordination of spiritual
agencies, not all of which are understood even by the planetary
supervisors, Urantia witnessed a most unusual presentation of manifold religious
truth. Through the agency of several human teachers the Salem gospel was
restated and revitalized, and as it was then presented,
much has persisted to the times of this writing.
Hey Riven , thanks for the great pics I really
appreciate it . Again they are fascinating
I must say the dates of 200,000 -500,000 is really hard for people to swallow,
even for myself.
However I did some research in the UB being a Urantia buff which may bring some
light to the subject that can close the gap about what we think.
According to the UB the first learning centre, when the "watchers arrived to
this planet was around 500,000 years just about the time the 5 coloured races
evolved from one family in around The highlands of Afghanistan today.
The first learning centre was called Dalamatia and was located in the Persian
Gulf, I reckon around the Bahrain area near the ancient city of Dilmun, explains
all the artefacts found there that go back thousand of years.
Here is some information about the city in the UB
http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper66.html
This is the place where the Nephilim lived to instruct man on civilised
practices
which incorporates what we see today. About 150,00 years ago 2/3rds of them
including the rebellious angels joined the Lucifer rebellion and began there own
manifesto of how the planet should be run, through the enforcement of will, we
can see much of that today and in the recent past.
People might think what Im saying is absolutely ridiculous. But consider the
Sumerian kinglist that goes back 500,000 years ago. Mind you many archaeologists
think its a mistake, no worries, but it still intriguing considering the UB
information. Perhaps the image you just posted is a replication of Gods that
according to the UB existed in that time?? 200,000 or so years ago?? No doubt
there would of been some intelligence in Germany to create such a thing. They
would have to of been familiar with the idea of the Gods.
Here is a link
http://www.earth-history.com/Sumer/sumer-sumer-kinglist.htm
About North Africa
Here is information about the Area which may bring light to Spain and North
Africa including Morocco and the outlying areas. If you read it carefully it
mentions Spain and North Africa which was a colony of the Andites before the
waters of the Atlantic swallowed them up after the Gibraltar breach.
Timeline around 34,000 years ago
http://mercy.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/mfs/usr/local/www/data/papers?link=http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper80.html&file=/usr/local/www/data/papers/paper80.html&line=32#mfs
Also here is more information regarding Spain and outlying areas.
Timeline 15,000 years ago
http://mercy.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/mfs/usr/local/www/data/papers?link=http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper81.html&file=/usr/local/www/data/papers/paper81.html&line=33#mfs
Anyway I hope you find it interesting as I sure did. I truly find that after
reading the gap of our opinions will close.
All the best
Regards
dj
http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/mfs/usr/local/www/data/papers?link=http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper94.html&file=/usr/local/www/data/papers/paper94.html&line=111#mfs
and
line 48: This was the situation when, during the sixth century before Christ,
the Orient and the Levant experienced a revival
of spiritual consciousness and a new awakening to the recognition of monotheism.
But the West did not share in this new development; neither Europe nor northern
Africa extensively participated in this religious renaissance.
The Greeks, however, did engage in a magnificent
intellectual advancement. They had begun to master fear and no longer
sought religion as an antidote therefore, but they did not perceive that true
religion is the cure for soul hunger, spiritual disquiet, and moral despair.
They sought for the solace of the soul in deep
thinking--philosophy and metaphysics. They turned from the contemplation of
self-preservation--salvation--to self-realization and self-understanding.
http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/mfs/usr/local/www/data/papers?link=http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper98.html&file=/usr/local/www/data/papers/paper98.html&line=48#mfs
and
line 113: 4. The sixth century before Christ. Many men arose to proclaim truth
in this, one of the greatest centuries of religious awakening ever witnessed on
Urantia. Among these should be recorded Gautama, Confucius, Lao-tse, Zoroaster,
and the Jainist teachers. The teachings of Gautama have become widespread in
Asia, and he is revered as the Buddha by millions. Confucius was to Chinese
morality what Plato was to Greek
philosophy, and while there were religious repercussions to the teachings of
both, strictly speaking, neither was a religious teacher; Lao-tse envisioned
more of God in Tao than did Confucius in humanity or
Plato in idealism. Zoroaster, while much
affected by the prevalent
http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/mfs/usr/local/www/data/papers?link=http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper92.html&file=/usr/local/www/data/papers/paper92.html&line=113#mfs
I know its a bit long but it could be important to the timeline
line 157: No one in the local universe seems to
know when the unsettled status of the planetary administration will terminate.
The Nebadon Melchizedeks are inclined to the opinion that little change will
occur in the planetary government and administration until
Michael's second personal arrival on Urantia.
Undoubtedly at this time, if not before,
sweeping changes will be effected in planetary management. But as to the
nature of such modifications of world
administration, no one seems to be able even to
conjecture. There is no precedent for
such an episode in all the history of the inhabited worlds of the universe of
Nebadon. Among the many things difficult to understand concerning the
future government of Urantia, a prominent one is
the location on the planet of a circuit and divisional headquarters of the
archangels
http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/mfs/usr/local/www/data/papers?link=http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper114.html&file=/usr/local/www/data/papers/paper114.html&line=157#mfs
Hi Riven
I was doing some more research I came across this site
http://www.warriors.egympie.com.au/ancestral.html
Apparently its the only known record of a prophecy from an Aboriginal tribe
in Gympie Australia. Its quite remarkable. Seems to paralell many of the
prophecies I found in all the books.
Also I found this in Micah 1:3
3 For, behold, the Lord cometh
forth out of his place,
and will come down, and
tread upon the high places of the earth.
4 And the mountains shall be
molten under him, and the valleys shall be cleft, as wax before the fire,
and as the waters that are
poured down a steep place. (reference
to the Gibraltar break)
Has all the hallmarks of the Gilbraltor breach. Using words like...forth out
of his place...like water gushing out, similiar to Job 38.... come down and
tread on the high places...water gushing from on top of a dam in a basin
where there are mountains and valleys. The whole earth is shaken and ripped
apart and there are eruptions. Seems to support Sarmasts hypothesis.
Also later in 1 Micah
6 Therefore I will make Samaria as an heap of the field, and as plantings of
a vineyard: and I will pour down the stones thereof into the valley,
[b]and I will
discover the foundations thereof.[/b]
(Another reference to a discovery of
foundations like Eden another clue.)7
Then This.. its a bit spooky but it what it says ...Im not making this up.
3 A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth:
the land is as the
garden of Eden before them, and
behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
Again speaks about the destruction of the
land of Eden.
And then Nahum 3 sounds like a clear description of the the submerged head
looking island of Eden.
8 Art thou better than populous No, that was situate among the rivers, that
had the waters round about it, (describing
Eden proper) whose rampart (who had a
coast) was the sea, and her wall was from the sea?
The Latter verse sounds very close to description of an island. The Garden
of Eden.
I also found this from 2 Peter 3 Peter himself speaking about this time and
now that first Eden has been discovered kind of makes you think how relevant
this becomes.
I was most interested in this section of the chapter.
2 Peter 3
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the
heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the
water: 6 Whereby the world that then was,
being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the
earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire
against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
You should read the rest of the chapter. Makes you really think about it
all. Perhaps this could be a pathway for the Catholics in this discovery
since Peter is the founder of the Catholic church. Could be a big revelation
for them.
http://www.christnotes.org/bible.asp?ViewBible=2+Peter+3&Version=KJV
All the best
dj
Hi Riven
I found your post interesting
I just a did bit of research here is the rings of OG
http://www.ccg.org/_domain/ccg.org/Creation%20Articles/Circle%20of%20the%20Refaim.htm
I love those concentric circles, exactly like the Urantia logo and further
North near Ugarit you have the entry to the sunken peninsula of the land of
Eden/Atlantis. Exactly like Stonehenge. No one understands what these rings
are but I know!!!!!
3rd millennium BCE, 5000 years ago, approximately 1000 years after the
Melchizedek(4000BC), OG basically believed in the same truth and was
stimulated by the Melchizedek teachings. The same truth has persisted down
the ages and The Urantia Book is the same truth but for the future as
mankind evolves further. Look at the floor of the church nativity or the
floor of the St Peters basilica you'll see the same concentric circles.
Remember that Abraham was around the time of Melchizedek and was blessed by
him. Abraham promoted the truth (family truth) which spread amongst the
Kenites.
The 3 concentric circle is the same symbol carried by the Melchizedek on his
breastplate who invigorated and stimulated the truth for 95 years in
Jerusalem, south of Bashan (the sage of Salem) and sent missionaries
throughout the world which included Stonehenge and the area around Spain!!!!
But the circles even persisted sometime before the restimulation as well.
Some 15,000 years ago there was another stimulation which spread throughout
the world. Concentric circles can be found all over the world from this
time, even amongst the Maya. Also the pacific islands was much bigger in
them days. I agree with you. The andonites spread all over the world and
would of affected the religions of the local inhabitants.
The Refaim where the giants that originated around the Ugarit and Syria area.
Are these the Giants that Greeks fought. I think so. Its true what the bible
says about the Nephilim as being sons of Gods. The UB expands this and
calls them the Nodites. 38000 years ago there were 3 main centers where they
lived. East in Elam, Northern western Syria and near the Persian Gulf. OG
were only later descendants who were called the Nodites. The Nodites and the
Adamites never got on well. Funny , the Greeks were the descendants of the
eldest son of Adam who married the last pure line descendant of the Nodites.
The early Greeks were the fourth and last migration that came out of Kopet
Daugh.
The Urantia Book also makes note of the gigantism that existed in this race,
essentially there genes were altered and made for a tall people, the
unintentional nine race of the planet. (hence the sons of Gods having sex
with women. OG was of this same race but believed in the teachings of the
Melchizedek. Hence the concentric circle a sign he left behind.
Another parallel with Greek mythology, The Urantia Book and The Bible.
The Urantia Book is only a perpetuation of it.
Anyway I thought that was interesting.
I went to your links, fascinating but still there is an element of
speculation. I feel in many ways what your looking at is a much later record
of the past. However I reckon there is a linkage in what you think and the
The Urantia Book. With language the only knowledge I know is from the UB.
However I am researching this to expand myself. |
Hey Riven pretty amazing pictures. I wonder how far
some of those artifacts go back. Isn't it amazing that the symbol of the circles
seem to be popping up all over the place. You might think something is telling
us something. Confirming here and confirming there as we recognise this circular
symbol along our truth travels and discovery adventures.
Its certainly a worthwhile study, these concentric circles symbols. I know I
have pictures for North America, Bolivia, Hawaii, Britain, Korea, India and I do
have some from Iberia for sure as that place is significant. No doubt that the
truth relating to the concentric circles was all over the world at one stage. No
one can deny that. From what I know there was a revival of this truth some
15,000 years ago and just recently 4000 years ago as demonstrated with the OG
circles until today.
What blew me away with the OG circles was that it is so close to Jerusalem and
the submerged location. I wonder if you made a line between the locations of
Jerusalem, OG circles and the location wether it would make triangle or
something. Hey.... the triangle of the ages or The triangle of truth....sounds
good hey!! he!
Some years ago I started this research into the symbol and found many
interesting things. I might very well continue it and see what I come up with
now. Actually its a good thing for us to research as its like a neutral zone
since we have opposing ideas about the place and yet its the symbol that is
common to our ideas agree or not.
Let me know what you think.
Riven are the initial images of the circular artifacts around 10,000 years old?
or are they fairly recent...just curious.
regards
dj
You know Riven, the more I see the evidence from all
over the place about this place the more unified I see this discovery. If Im
right its a discovery of all proportions, unlike any that has happened before.
It really has superphysical connection. Certainly in the way that the Atlantis
Gods would want. A discovery that touches every aspect of mans knowledge about
himself and his future destiny from a book that leads him to the discovery
itself. Surely defies mans logic...surely this kind of revelation cant happen in
this day and age!!!!! Look at all the pointers that have been revealed as we go
into this journey Like I said this before this is like virtual prophecy
revealing itself on the run. I am positive that there is great purpose in this
unlike man has seen before.
It kind of like the end game of a mystery that has existed for thousands of
years that is unfolding itself on all levels of our knowledge. Its like the last
great mystery that leads us to the discovery of our origins but in harmony with
all the knowledge, a unification, a conjunction.
By the way I read your last post. It was good and I did pick up things from it.
But somehow I feel this goes back 34,000 years ago and the only mode of
knowledge was through story telling. The knowledge we are taught is only the
remnant of an epic that goes many thousands of years before that was handed down
through words which eventually became the written word. In other words all our
knowledge is basically recent history. However there are linkages in language
but some how that is fairly recent and should be studied more an expanded since
now we are talking about 34,000 years ago not 10,000 years.
About Lumeria. You know there was an earlier learning centre called Dalamatia
that went down 150,000 years ago. It existed in the Persian Gulf. The location
was thought to be around the Bahrain area. Apparently there still exists
vestiges of the earlier place. The Sumerians well knew this place. It was known
as the place where the Gods came to Earth. Zacharia Sitchen touches on this
place. The Cyprus location and the Dalamatia location was always confused in our
records. However in Sumerian tablets information can be identified. Although
unfortunately for some, you have to know The Urantia Book to recognise the truth
in the inscriptions and then apply to the evidence currently available.
Also Enoch refers to them as the Sons of God (the watchers) and there
conversation really refers to an earlier timeline, like 150,000 years ago, much
before the timeline that is being currently researched. Right at the time when
they made the decision to multiply with the seed of man realising there own
mortality without the gift of the tree of life, thus sprung the Nodite race. The
progenitors of the Atlanteans, the Western Nodite civilisation not to mention
the other Nodite groups in the south and the east. The Ads! Most likely the
progenitors or admixed with the early Egyptians, hence the religion of the
Egyptians and the concept of the Pyramids and the other huge structures, not to
mention the Book of the dead.
here is an interesting link I found about the Ad. I like some of the linkages and
parallels.
It could also be earlier reflections of the deluge way back in the past that
have persisted in these writings. Springs and Garden could be be clue and a
furious wind from the oncoming tsunami. Whilst referring to walled city Ubar in
our past could also be a much earlier story in our past of the main centre that
went down.. Food for thought.
http://www.islamicity.com/science/QuranAndScience/destruction/GeneratedFilesnoframe/ThePeopleof145AdandUbartheAtlantisoftheSands.htm
Its another great revelation to find this. They are all pointers that lead to
the same truth that is lead mankind to the watering hole but will he drink. Hard
to swallow!! for many.
All the best
dj
Threads of early thoughts that follows the tracks of the
andites
I couldn't resist and put together my own pic.
It certainly adds mystery to the whole discovery. What a way to provide meaning
to the concentric circles that baffles man. On the eve of the greatest discovery
that will rewrite our history books. What a way to introduce yourself to the
world through ruins of significance.
Here is a radio interview
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/6pr.wma
you will need windows media player
Hey it looks like a cap stone of a pyramid.
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It goes way beyond language
Here is some Rockart from Lake Seven and Lake Van area. Apparently they are
around 10,000 years old. From what I have read The people who came from this
area 38,0000 years ago are the the builders of Atlantis/1st Eden. The Rockart is
only a small reflection of this. Notice the similarity in the symbols as in
Spain.
Also here is pictorial of The Atlantis Island as remembered in Nepal. Notice the
shape of the Island and notice the peninsula connecting the island to the
mainland. Similar, almost identical to the location.
Ok Riven
Here is what I have of what could be the lost land of Lumeria or
related to it. In the Pacific where Lumeria existed.. right!!
This is The Urantia Book.
These Andites were the so-called
Dravidian and later Aryan conquerors of India; and
their presence in central Asia
greatly upstepped the ancestors of the Turanians. Many of
this race journeyed to China by way
of both Sinkiang and Tibet and added desirable qualities to the
later Chinese stocks. From
time to time small groups made their way into
Japan, Formosa, the East Indies, and
southern China, though very few entered southern China by the
coastal route.
line 104: One hundred and thirty-two of this race, embarking in a
fleet of small boats from Japan, eventually reached
South America and by intermarriage
with the natives of the Andes established the ancestry of the later
rulers of the Incas. They crossed the Pacific by easy stages,
tarrying on the many islands they found along the way.
The islands of the Polynesian group
were both more numerous and larger then than now, and these Andite
sailors, together with some who followed them, biologically modified
the native groups in transit. Many flourishing centers of
civilization grew up on these now
submerged lands as a result of Andite penetration. Easter Island was
long a religious and administrative center of one of these lost
groups. But of the Andites who navigated the Pacific of long
ago none but the one hundred and
thirty-two ever reached the mainland of the Americas.
The migratory conquests of the
Andites continued on down to their final dispersions, from 8000 to
6000 B.C. As they poured out of Mesopotamia, they
continuously depleted the biologic reserves of their homelands while
markedly strengthening the surrounding peoples.
And to every nation to which
they journeyed, they contributed
humor, art, adventure, music, and manufacture. They were skillful
domesticators of animals and expert agriculturists. For the
time being, at least, their presence
usually improved the religious beliefs and moral practices of the
older races. And so the
culture of Mesopotamia quietly spread out over Europe, India, China,
northern Africa, and the Pacific Islands.
http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webglimpse/mfs/usr/local/www/data/papers?link=http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper78.html&file=/usr/local/www/data/papers/paper78.html&line=104#mfs
Can you show me ancient BC records that of speak of Lumeria.
Maybe we can discover something together.
Maybe Easter island is a clue to these submerged huge and maybe if
they did a scan of Easter island we may find remnants of these huge
temples. There is a clue I think on an island in the Solomon's I
think were there is huge structures that are still above the waters
and no one knows where they come from? The above Urantia information
could be a great clue as where to look and to identify features on
other islands that no one knows of how they originated.
I wouldn't be surprised that Hawaii and the extended Polynesian
groups may have been the main centres of this new civilisation in
the Pacific??
Here is a collection of the concentric circle that extends across
the Pacific.
and here is one amongst many others found in Northern America
Here is a circle that originates from Bolivia which relates to the
base pattern of temple building that was used in India and found in
Bolivia.
Here is another from Bolivia, that relates to sunlight hitting a
certain position at a certain time of year. Similar to other circle
constructions.
Here are the same concentric circles found in Korea
As you can see there is a clear trail that leads all the way to
Bolivia close to the home of the Incas.
Again we come back to the same concentric circles some 15,000 years
ago. A little different to your timeline.
Anyway lets see your research since were talking about the Pacific (Lumeria)
now and not Spain. Perhaps you should be looking in your back yard
as the truth is right under nose and you cant see it.
I await your research on Lumeria
and remember this since one, just to remind you and the more recent
circles around the 10,000 year mark
Becoming more obvious dont you think Riven!!!!
One thing that seem to be obvious to me. Is that it all began from
1st Eden (The discovery of Atlantis of Cyprus) and the symbol of
Eden was the concentric circles which has persisted since those
times throughout all of civilisation.
Hey Riven take out the "N" in Andites and you get Adites "The Adites"
Adland, Atlan, Atlantis, Atlanteans... etc
4. THE ANDITES
The Andite races were the primary blends of
the pure-line violet race and the
Nodites plus the evolutionary peoples. In general, Andites
should be thought of as having a far greater percentage of
Adamic blood than the modern races.
In the main, the term Andite is used to designate those peoples
whose racial inheritance was from one-eighth to one-sixth violet.
Modern Urantians, even the northern white races, contain much
less than this percentage of
the blood of Adam.
The earliest Andite peoples took origin in the
regions adjacent to Mesopotamia more
than twenty-five thousand years ago and consisted of a blend of the
Adamites and Nodites. The second garden was surrounded by
concentric circles of diminishing violet blood, and it was on the
periphery of this racial melting pot that the Andite race was born.
Later on, when the migrating Adamites and Nodites entered the then
fertile regions of Turkestan,
they soon blended with the superior inhabitants, and the resultant
race mixture extended the Andite type northward.
Quote: |
You'll never find Atlantis, nor are you worthy
to carry the Shield and Sword of Atlantis. |
Hey Buddy "Let the judge, judge" Your not worthy to judge another in
there endeavour for truth.
Interesting dont you think!
dj
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Hi Bluehue
Great to hear from you. Thanks for the post. I am Dutch but I live in Australia,
first generation Australian, however my Genes are totally Dutch in many ways.
That's probably where I get my boldness from.
Unfortunately my parents never taught me Dutch so I am disadvantaged by that.
However I did go to translator to understand your message.
You know Blue I understand where you are at, not in experience but in spirit.
I would like to strike a online friendship and share with
you the Atlantis experience as it happens, so as to inspire you with the all the
truth that surrounds this place. Know that this truth is way beyond mans trivial
thinking and the spiritual knowledge/revelation can really assist all man to
aspire to the greatest relationship in truth with the Creator with ultimately
makes man more loving towards his fellow brother rather than being guided by
selfishness and self ego. This is the ultimate purpose of the project. It has
nothing to do with fame, money, or mans ego. However its all to do wisdom,
wisdom of the Gods. Believe they are trying to get the message through mans
thick head. But man in his pride and fear of truth will continually defy the
greatest spiritual and physical discovery.
Another thing don't worry about those who give you a hard time it will pass but
know that there is a revelation that can provide spiritual healing through
enlightenment which develops a closer relationship with the larger universal
scheme of things. Also know that this project is way beyond man but its all to
do man as God is virtually leading man to God but through unadulterated truth
which can be harmonised with science. A clear demonstration is the the 1st
Eden/Atlantis project. A planetary project that is set on its own merits and has
nothing to do with any manmade institution. You could say its the Jesus/God
project in truth and that's why normal people who have the right in right place
and who have a desire for truth was used rather than scientists who don't know
anything on this on this level of truth.
Also this project is not a contrivance of man. Its is a completely honest and
sincere project with the discovery of truth as the ultimate goal. That's all.
Brother you don't have to worry about anything. This this truth will one day set
all man free from fear and will free up man in truth to rediscover himself and
his true spiritual potential. So no matter the physical problems know that the
spirit can strong through the understanding of your ultimate destiny which is
all to do with the realm of eternity rather than time and space. This where we
are all ultimately heading towards and know we have a clear and loving pathway
towards this great goal as demonstrated by the great truth discovery in physical
and in spirit.
You mentioned about being a hermit, don't worry about that either. I to, live
alone with no partner, rejected by family and broke. How Dutch is that!! They
just sit on the sidelines scoff, watch, judge and was a fellow kin fall
physically. The end result of mans rubbish ideals only a small representation of
the world at large. But then I say "let the judge, judge" All I do is try and
survive so I can do this work which I feel is the will of God for me as I
progress through this time and space realm. That's why I am completely
transparent about the truth behind this because I know it is where the real
action is on the planet.
While everyone builds there physical estate which will eventually be eaten up by
the cankerworm, I am trying to build a spiritual truth legacy that will be known
in a 1000 years and build a spiritual estate for when I pass on to the realm of
eternity. We are really entering interesting times.
Anyway I have to go as the world demands attention.
All the best and great blessings for you.
dj
The Urantia Book
Assistant Teachers. The assistant teachers are the helpers and associates of
their fellow seraphim, the teaching counsellors. They are also individually
connected with the extensive educational enterprises of the local universe,
especially with the sevenfold scheme of training operative on the mansion worlds
of the local systems. A marvelous corps of this
order of seraphim functions on Urantia for the purpose of fostering and
furthering the cause of truth and righteousness.
Hi
Here are some pictorials of the path that led the Andites from India across to
Peru some 15,000 years ago . It is the Mesopotamian connection to the Inca race
which spread throughout all of the Americas. The concentric circles is the
common symbol which connects all these cultures. Another common feature that the
Andites (Adites) left behind where large temple buildings and the knowledge of
there construction mostly devoted to religion and the spread of it knowledge.
The Japan - Polynesia connection
The Polynesia, Easter Island and South America route
enjoy
dj
Hi
Here are some pictorials of the path that led the Andites from India across to
Peru some 15,000 years ago . It is the Mesopotamian connection to the Inca race
which spread throughout all of the Americas. The concentric circles is the
common symbol which connects all these cultures. Another common feature that the
Andites (Adites) left behind where large temple buildings and the knowledge of
there construction mostly devoted to religion and the spread of it knowledge.
The Japan - Ploynesia connection
The Polynesia, Easter Island and South America route
Here is a circle that originates from Bolivia which relates to the base pattern
of temple building that was used in India now found in Bolivia.
http://www.world-mysteries.com/bolivia.pdf
http://www.bretagne-celtic.com/an/accueil_symbole_an.htm
http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Mandala/id/22166
http://www.prs.org/gallery-kabblh.htm
http://azorion.tripod.com/bose_concentric_circles.htm
http://azorion.tripod.com/bose_concentric_circles.htm
http://www.hao.ucar.edu/Public/education/archeoslides/slide_11.html
http://www.mythicalireland.com/ancientsites/dowth/candlelight.html
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/3129/
The concentric circles are embedded in our past and has perpetuated throughout
our society today. The concentric circle symbol was restimulated in 38,000 years
from the 1stGarden of Eden (Atlantis) and at various time periods throughout the
time period.
Its through the Urantia Book that provides a clear understanding of what these
circles mean. As we read through the timeline from 38,0000 years ago we can
identify the concentric circles in every part of the world as we discover them
in archaeology and in the right places.
The Andites or Adites in my view must of been real adventures of truth to travel
to all parts of the world to perpetuate this truth leaving there mark behind as
the concentric circles. I don't doubt that over time the real meaning of these
circles would have been lost and confused with fear and a lack of faith
therefore creating a variant meaning and different type of religion but
essentially the symbol has survived and it is only now that its true meaning is
about to be perpetuated.
This one is a spin out, probably knows what's happening
and upstaging it.
http://site.williamhenry.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=31&Itemid=41
http://www.originsnet.org/mindmp.html
http://www.khandro.net/ritual_mandala.htm
http://www.utahrockart.org/education/l_blue_r.html
http://www.dean-online.de/gallery/HTML/AboArt.html
Refers to the rings found in the Golan Hieghts.
Psalm 68 15 The hill of God is as the hill of Bashan; an high hill as the hill
of Bashan. 16 Why leap ye, ye high hills? this is the hill which God desireth to
dwell in; yea, the Lord will dwell in it for ever.
enjoy
dj
Hi everyone
Here are some Sumerian script found in Bolivia, you know where the Andites or
Adites commingled with the forerunners of the Inca civilization.
http://www.geocities.com/myessays/fuentemagnacuneiform.jpg
Here is the website
http://www.geocities.com/theatlantistrail/
Proves the Urantia account and the above dj post without a doubt
enjoy
dj
I thought this link was interesting.
The link is the Aztec deluge story compared with
the Noah deluge story. Kinda provides a time period link of the 132 landing
in Bolivia. So we have Sumerian text and virtually identical Noah story. But
with a difference as you'll see, there are similarities with the Plato deluge,
a reflection of the the Med deluge. Could be a connection. Must from around
6000 - 8000 years ago around the time of Noah.
Im so fascinated by these pictures
I calcuate this around 7500-7000 years ago. It
probably remnants of the dispersion of the Andites.
This one looks like the Eastern Medititerranean
and note some symbol near those rings of Bashan and the Neck. It looks like a
clue or key if you no what I mean.
This one looks like the island disrupting
Hey Bro, been digging and thinking about it.
I think this is real big bro and Lake tititacha in
Bolivia is a representation or model built upon the plans of the first Eden
and the Aztecs gives us the location of the first eden in the tablet with
a mix of the Plato story and the Noah story. Must of happened arounf 6500BC
round about.
I think this is a big find in meaning and
revealment which relates to the location nicely and brings in the American
connection. Obviously this truth filled the Americas through myth and legend,
the same story and symbol.
The Nazca lines must have something to do with the
legend. I know there are many concentric circles there.
Just image the Melchizedek materialised 2000
years later after the disruption of the Andite culture when the truth became
dim. understandable. Plus it compliments the island hopping
bridge over
the Pacific.
All food for good contemplation. Its
unbelievable this mystery and what has been cracked so far. Better still it
is complimented by the Urantia Book.
The Delaclusion interesting paralells.
http://sacred-texts.com/atl/ataw/ataw204.htm
Hi Looks like interesting maps but whose to say that
it was above water at any stage in our past. You have to form an expedition get
some hard evidence including the discovery of man made structures. Anything less
is just pictures and a hopefull imagination and not supported by scripts in
addition to Plato.
I cant believe the Greeks travelled all that way to fight the Atlanteans. It
would be ridiculous.
The Cyprus option is by far the best location for Atlantis as it sits right in
the middle of where civilisation began and also has the benefit and support from
many ancient scripts not just Plato alone pointing to Cyprus. I don't see any
scripts supporting the location in that section of the Atlantic.
I got to say great pics, looks nice, but that about all it is pics and gifs with
no evidence of a lost city. Just a mud bank that could of been submerged the
whole time in our history. Man O man just because there is a bank of mud people
jump to conclusion. Oh its Atlantis.
The difference with the Cyprus location is that the discoverers where led to the
location by many scripts primarily the Urantia Book. They forenew that there was
structures there, the whole time. Even wrote a book about it before there was
any planned expedition and predicted the actual location of the structures by
stating the long and lat of the structures in the book. At the end of the day
there where MAN MADE structures discovered which have comfounded the scientists
and still do.
Also there was real purpose in this project that was planned tens of thousands
of years ago, the place was preserved for this time. This can be found in Job 38
and 22 and many other scripts.
The real purpose of the Atlantean Gods if you want to call them that was to
introduce a new revelation to mankind for his future. What a way for an truth
introduction, through a revelatory physical discovery that has connections and
paralells in all our books of knowledge. Harmonisation! Atlantis and 1st Eden is
of the coast of Cyprus.
Anyway it probably pointless going on. III just sit back and watch everything
unfold itself as the research has been done about this location which makes one
of the most fascinating mysteries ever and is continualy unfolding itself as we
move closer and closer in investigating this location.
The location near iceland Needs an expedition but personaly the object
(location) has been discovered and will be known in 1000 years time as all our
truth points to this location which streches back 38,000 years and was submerged
by the Gilbraltor break 34,000 years ago.
Here is a small sample of a unifying revelation connected to this location.
Here is a description of what happened, The
Gilbraltor breach
Isaiah 30:13-14 Therefore this iniquity shall be to
you as a breach ready to fall, swelling out in a high wall, whose breaking
cometh suddenly at an instant. 14 And he shall break it as the breaking
of the potters' vessel that is broken in pieces; he shall not spare: so that
there shall not be found in the bursting of it a sherd to take fire from the
hearth, or to take water withal out of the pit.
What it was like
Isaiah 30:27-28 Behold, the name of the Lord cometh from far, burning with his
anger, and the burden thereof is heavy: his lips are full of indignation, and
his tongue as a devouring fire: 28 And his breath, as an overflowing stream ,
shall reach to the midst of the neck, to sift the nations with the sieve of
vanity: and there shall be a bridle in the jaws of the people, causing them to
err.
Here is the purpose
Isaiah 30:26 Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun,
and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold
(The Urantia Book)as the light of seven
days, in the day that the Lord bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth
the stroke of their wound. (the ultimate effect)
Here is another description of the breach from
Job
Job 38:8 Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had
issued out of the womb?
The Angels instructed to preserve ths place for
a future purpose.
Job38:12 Hast thou commanded the morning
since thy days; and caused the dayspring to know
his place; (Held in memory and preserved
in our writings in different cultures by the collaboration of both man and
angels for this purpose. The discovery of Atlantis/Eden of Cyprus.)
Upon the destruction of Eden/Atlantis it became
a seal
Job 38:14 It is turned as clay to the seal.
Another mention of the seal.
Book of Jubilees 8:13 "there he was set as a sign"
Man being led to the location through The
Urantia Book, the new revelation for man future destiny.
Job 38: 19-20 Where is the way where light dwelleth? and as for darkness, where
is the place thereof, That thou shouldest take it to the bound thereof, and that
thou shouldest know the paths to the house thereof?
The location discovered by a new revelation.
Job 22:30 He shall deliver the island of the innocent: and it is delivered by
the pureness of thine hands. (the Urantia book)
Instructed to write a book that led us to the
location (The Urantia Book)
Isaiah 30:8 Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that
it may be for the time to come for ever and ever:
Reference made to the Sevenfold truth as
prophesied by Enoch, The urantia Book, the Sevenfold instruction.
Isaiah 30:26 Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun,
and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold
as the light of seven days, in the day that the Lord bindeth up the breach of
his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound.
There is heaps and heaps of this in all our books. Not just the bible or The UB.
If you can show this kind of harmonisation to your location in around iceland,
in addition to discovered manmade structures, then III believe you.
Anything less forget about it.
Future prophecy in connection to the Cyprus
Eden/Atlantis location.
Isaiah 58:10 And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the
afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as
the noonday: 11 And the Lord
shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy
bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water,
whose waters fail not. 12 And they that shall be of thee shall build the old
waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou
shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.
17 It came to pass also in the twelfth year, in the fifteenth day of the month,
that the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, 18 Son of man, wail for the
multitude of Egypt, and cast them down, even
her, and the daughters of the famous nations, unto the nether parts of the
earth, with them that go down into the pit.
evidence of famous nations before Egypt that went down in the pit (lower than
sea level) (The deluge, the Gilbraltor break), The Mediterranean. not Iceland or
in that general area.
regards
dj
Hi Riven
Thanks for the huge posts, I love your new dog. very cute.
About the king lists I must say its fascinating. I have to say I don't know much
about it except through what I know from reading the list. You could be right in
your interpretations in relation to your research but that would be something
that I would have to take on with faith.
I was wandering did the UB links that I sent you. Did they have relevance to
your research? Was there some unifying aspect about it in comparison to your
personal research?
I felt there were some interesting parallels and connections about the existence
of an advanced culture in the area of your interest. Hopefully one day an
expedition will be launched in the most obvious area to prove or to disprove the
location of Atlantis outside the Gilbraltar straits but there would have to be
some artifacts founds to take out any speculation.
I was particularly drawn to the UB information that around 3000BC how there were
circular open temples constructed in the Spain area that was for the
glorification of Sun worship. This may explain the circular rock art found in the
general area and may explain the remnants of the foundations of the circular
temple found near the coast of Spain who claim its Atlantis. Also points to
Stonehenge which seem to have a different belief system but related to circular
temples.
Riven wether Atlantis of Spain the coast of Spain or Cyprus I wont argue that
anymore. We have our views and that's alright but one thing I do agree with, is
that an advanced culture was in existence in Spain and the outlying areas which
was related to Atlantis, the Atlanteans/Andites/Adites goes back around 34,000
years forward. I was also interested in the land upthrust of of what became the
Atlas mountains due the Mediterranean trough flooding many thousands of years
prior and the shift of the water laden winds further to the north due to the
retreat of the last ice age which made the Saharan area a desert. What about the
the comment of the degradation of the Egyptian culture at around 15,000BC and
the comment at about the time of Atlantis sinking 34000 years where the empire
of the Andites/Adites extended all the from the Eastern Med to Spain along the
coastal areas. Surely that lends support to your ideas where the only difference
we have is the location of the city of the Gods and that's basically all the
difference there is.
Anyway thinking in this line of thought and matching the hard evidence might
make, in my mind, a real good study to persue.
Anyway all food for thought.
All the best Riven
dj
Hi Julie.
I just want to say that Jesus did exist.
A demonstration of that is in what's happening of the coast of Cyprus.
Here is a couple of excerpts
1Book of Adam and Eve around 300BC
The Promise
"Indeed I say to you, this darkness will pass from you, every day I have
determined for you, until the fulfillment of My
covenant; when I will save you and bring you back again into the garden,
into the house of light you long for, in which there is no darkness*.
I will bring you to it -- in the kingdom
of heaven." The Urantia Book, the prime info.
Another extract
But God said to Adam, "I have made you a promise;
when that promise is fulfilled, I will bring you
back into the garden, you and your righteous descendants."
The Urantia Book current timeline.
Have I not told you all these years that my kingdom is not of this world? The
things which you now look down upon are coming to an end, but this will be a new
beginning out of which the gospel of the kingdom will go to all the world and
this salvation will spread to all peoples. (Which
it has done.)
And when the kingdom shall have come to its full
fruition be assured that the Father in heaven will not fail to visit you
with an enlarged revelation of truth
(The Urantia Book) and an
enhanced demonstration of righteousness,
(The Discovery) even as he has already
bestowed upon this world him who became the prince of darkness, and then Adam,
who was followed by Melchizedek, and in these days, the Son of Man. And so will
my Father continue to manifest his mercy and show forth his love, even to this
dark and evil world.
This is exactly what's going on at the moment of the coast of Cyprus, prophecy
fulfilling itself which defies all mans limited logic. Whether you want to call
it Atlantis or 1stEden. It doesn't matter because this is bigger than all of us.
All the best
dj
Hey Riven
Im not sure if this relevant. Here is a little post in another subject.
I thought it could be interesting for the search fro Atlantis.
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Also I know what you mean about not using the UB. I try that to but I fail each
time. For me I to like to use ancient texts like the Bible and the hidden books
of Eden and other scripts like Plato and Egyptian book of the dead or anything
BC where I perceive that truth emantes from. However I find the UB in explaining
things seems to add great value to much of the things I find in the ancient
script. Since its the prime information that
explains the location and its there. I figure it has great reliability and
credibility concerning its overall picture. I find the connections quite
fascinating and unprecedented.
I find that combining all texts together including The UB, to me makes this
project rather perfected and all encompassing regardless were we think the
location is.
Its truly a fantastic journey for all of us and will be spoken about in 1000
years as probably the great revelation or something like that. maybe.
At the moment Im doing a study in following the Andites after the destruction and
looking into the history of the Amorites as mentioned in the Bible. I believe
they are remnants of the Adites or Andites/Atlanteans who were a blend of the
Nodites and the Adamic race who admixed greatly around 25,000 years ago and
expanded there empires which includes Spain, Nth Africa, Palestine, Southern
Europe which eventually influenced the Inca race.
I found linkages or reflection to the Cyprus location quite interesting being
next door to where the Amorites lived.
Here are some excerpts I found in there religions
Amurru and Martu are also names given in Akkadian and Sumerian texts to the god
of the Amorite/Amurru people,
This god Amurru/Martu is sometimes described as
a shepherd and as a son of the sky god Anu. He is sometimes called bêlu
&353;ad&299; or bêl &353;adê lord of the
mountain dúr-hur-sag-gá sikil-a-ke4
He who dwells on the pure mountain, and kur-za-gan ti-[la]
who inhabits the shining mountain. In
Cappadocian Zin&269;irli inscriptions he is called ì-li a-bi-a
the god of my father.
Here are certain fragments that describe in my view the garden
This god Amurru/Martu
(Martu sounds similar to the isle of Maati home of
the Gods, Egyptian book of the dead.) is sometimes described as a
shepherd and as a son of the sky god Anu.
u &353;ad&299; or bêl &353;adê lord of the
mountain
Like Adad he bears the epithet ram&257;n thunderer and he is even called
b&257;riqu hurler of the thunderbolt and Adad
&353;a a-bu-be Adad of the deluge
Whilst there religion has aspects of the legend of 1st Eden no doubt over time
the religion was hijacked by ignorance and barbaric practices which was far from
the ultimate truth. I suppose what I wanted to point out is that even the later
races of the later Adites had reflections of Eden that was very close by the
location.
I feel the following races are remnants of the Adites/Andites
The Amorites, The Refaim, The Amalekites and the Arameans and others that I
havent discovered. All there religions have fragments of the Cyprus locations
embedded in there religions. Certainly a reflection of the past.
note the rings of Bashan 5000years ago from the homeland of the Amorites before
Abram settled in the area.
and the location 60 miles to the North West
This was even before the Melchizedeks 2000BC. I must say its pretty good signage.
Plus the Amorite religion eventually evolved into Baal which was 2 fold, the
worship of Fertility and private property. Sex and gross self cantered
materialism which seems to be reflected today as a religion within itself
considering the attitude construct of world these days. Basically that's what's
having a negative effect on our planet coupled with Global warming, dimming and
the hunger for control and power without responsibility of the larger consequence
to the planet and our fellow brother.
What a deception so far from the truth. There is no way this planet is going to
survive while the whole planet is going for Profit, profit and more profit
without the temperance of wisdom. Gods wisdom, not mans, the effect of mans
wisdom (imposed will) is disastrous especially for the planetary environment.
regards
dj
April 11th 2007 addition, the trail
of lixus and Tipura, the white island that led me to the
discovery of
1st Susa anb Babel/Dilmun.
Hi Riven.
In my studies I found references to and old ancient place near where the
Romans built upon Carthage after defeating them. Apparently this earlier
city is close by and was built by the Andites 5000 BC. 7000 years ago Would
you know of any references of links to pictures to any archaeological digs to
an area close by Carthage? I'm really interested in the huge stone blocks
similar to the ones in Baalbek and Lixus? I reckon there is a big link there
in my search for the Andites.
Here is a lead Im following, I must confess its the UB but it could be
worthwhile.
Another great colony settled on the
Mediterranean near the later site of Carthage. And from north Africa large
numbers of Andites entered Spain and later mingled in Switzerland with their
brethren who had earlier come to Italy from the Aegean Islands.
I found some megalithic info on Malta
http://www.net4you.co.at/users/poellauerg/Malta/
I noticed there are megalith structures have that size similarity to the
megaliths in Baalbek, Lake Tititacha, Majoro and Lixus. It was around the
time where a host came out of Mesopotamia and settled in Cyprus as well.
I cant find too much
All the best
dj
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The only clue I could find was this
Carthage (from the Phoenician Qart-Hadasht "New City" (written without
vowels as QRT HDŠT קרת חדשת)
That Phoenicians built a new city called Qart-Hadasht "New City" 814BC
So it must of been built upon an older city or close to a more ancient
location that was on the Med coast close to the new city. Perhaps the
earlier city or remnants of, built around 7000BC
I found this
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=11418
Looks like Italian researchers found a Stone megalithic site comparable to
Stonehenge in Tunisia Oct 5th. I wonder if this the place. It would have to
have block similarities to that in Malta, Lixus, Baalbek Lake Tititacha and
Easter Island. Could this be the city of Andites/Adites 7000 years ago
predating Carthage by thousands of years?
See what develops.
http://www.stonepages.com/news/archives/001537.html
Heres more
http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/ht/02/afw/ht02afw.htm
ca. 5000 B.C. The people of western North Africa are part of trade networks
and the cultural community of the western Mediterranean. Locally made
pottery displays the same type of ornamentation found in the regions of
modern-day Spain and southern France. Examples are cardial ware, a ceramic
decorated with impressed seashells, and impressed ware, decorated with
designs made by pressing string into the wet clay. Among the materials that
come to western North Africa from abroad are obsidian blades from the Lipari
Islands near Sicily.
more info about the Sahara
http://www.fjexpeditions.com/tassili/frameset/rockart.html
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