Well in a far as evidence is concerned
lets go to Persian gulf to Dalamatia City, the triangle city and verify the
cities as written and lift up the evidence, like what Heinrich Schliemann did
with the city of Troy.
That's in the doing rather than talking about it and there may be more benefits
for mankind in the process.
sevens
« Reply #10 on:Today at 03:53:47 am »
A dissemination of Rodan of Alexandria 2000
years ago and relevant for today. Have we progressed really in light of this
opinion from Rodan 2000 years ago, something for us to consider within
ourselves in what we do each day and to others?? in there own distortions.
Quote
5. THE RELIGION OF
THE IDEAL
You have told me that your Master regards
genuine human religion as the individual's experience with spiritual
realities. I have regarded religion as man's experience of reacting
to something which he regards as being worthy of the homage and devotion
of all mankind. In this sense, religion symbolizes our supreme devotion to
that which represents our highest concept of the ideals of reality and the
farthest reach of our minds toward eternal possibilities of spiritual
attainment.
When men react to religion in the tribal,
national, or racial sense, it is because they look upon those without
their group as not being truly human. We always look upon the
object of our religious loyalty as being worthy of the reverence of all
men. Religion can never be a matter of mere intellectual belief or
philosophic reasoning; religion is always and forever a mode of reacting
to the situations of life; it is a species of conduct.
Religion embraces thinking, feeling, and acting
reverently toward some reality which we deem worthy of universal adoration.
If something has become a religion in your experience, it is self-evident
that you already have become an active evangel of that religion since you
deem the supreme concept of your religion as being worthy of the worship
of all mankind, all universe intelligences. If
you are not a positive and missionary evangel of your religion, you are
self-deceived in that what you call a religion is only a traditional
belief or a mere system of intellectual philosophy. If your
religion is a spiritual experience, your object of worship must be the
universal spirit reality and ideal of all your spiritualized concepts.
All religions based on fear, emotion,
tradition, and philosophy I term the intellectual religions, while those
based on true spirit experience I would term the true religions.
The object of religious devotion may be material or spiritual, true or
false, real or unreal, human or divine.
Religions can therefore be either good or evil.
Morality and religion are not necessarily the same. A system of morals, by
grasping an object of worship, may become a religion.
A religion, by losing its universal appeal to
loyalty and supreme devotion, may evolve into a system of philosophy or a
code of morals. This thing, being, state, or order of existence, or
possibility of attainment which constitutes the supreme ideal of religious
Page 1781 loyalty, and which is the recipient of the religious devotion of
those who worship, is God. Regardless of the name applied to this ideal of
spirit reality, it is God.
The social characteristics of a true religion
consist in the fact that it invariably seeks to convert the individual and
to transform the world. Religion implies the existence of undiscovered
ideals which far transcend the known standards of ethics and morality
embodied in even the highest social usages of the most mature institutions
of civilization.Religion reaches out for
undiscovered ideals, unexplored realities, superhuman values, divine
wisdom, and true spirit attainment. True religion does all of this;
all other beliefs are not worthy of the name.You cannot have a genuine spiritual religion
without the supreme and supernal ideal of an eternal God.A religion without this God is an invention of
man, a human institution of lifeless intellectual beliefs and meaningless
emotional ceremonies. A religion might claim as the object of its
devotion a great ideal. But such ideals of unreality are not attainable;
such a concept is illusionary. The only ideals
susceptible of human attainment are the divine realities of the infinite
values resident in the spiritual fact of the eternal God.
The word God, the idea of God as contrasted with the ideal of God, can
become a part of any religion, no matter how puerile or false that
religion may chance to be. And this idea of God can become anything which
those who entertain it may choose to make it.
The lower religions shape their ideas of God to meet the natural state of
the human heart;the higher religions
demand that the human heart shall be changed to meet the demands of the
ideals of true religion.
The religion of Jesus transcends all our former concepts of the idea of
worship in that he not only portrays his Father as the ideal of infinite
reality but positively declares that this
divine source of values and the eternal center of the universe is truly
and personally attainable by every mortal creature who chooses toenter the kingdom of heaven on earth, thereby
acknowledging the acceptance of sonship with God and brotherhood with man.
That, I submit, is the highest concept of
religion the world has ever known, and I pronounce that there can
never be a higher since this gospel embraces the infinity of realities,
the divinity of values, and the eternity of universal attainments. Such a
concept constitutes the achievement of the experience of the idealism of
the supreme and the ultimate.
I am not only intrigued by the consummate ideals of this religion of your
Master, but I am mightily moved to profess my
belief in his announcement that these ideals of spirit realities are
attainable; that you andI can enter upon
this long and eternal adventure with his assurance of the certainty of our
ultimate arrival at the portals of Paradise. My brethren,
I am a believer, I have embarked; I am on my way
with you in this eternal venture. The Master says he came from the
Father, and that he will show us the way. I am
fully persuaded he speaks the truth. I am finally convinced that there are
no attainable ideals of reality or values of perfection apart from the
eternal and Universal Father.
I come, then, to worship, not merely the God of existences, but the God of
the possibility of all future existences.
Therefore must your devotion to a supreme ideal, if that ideal is real, be
devotion to this God of past, present, and future universes of things and
beings. And there is no other God, for there cannot possibly be any
other God. All other gods are figments of the imagination, illusions of
mortal mind, distortions of false logic,
and the self-deceptive idols of those who create them.
Yes, you can have a religion without this God,
but it
Page 1782 does not mean anything.
And if you seek to substitute the word God for the reality of this ideal
of the living God, you have only deluded yourself by putting an idea in
the place of an ideal, a divine reality. Such
beliefs are merely religions of wishful fancy.
I see in the teachings of Jesus, religion at its
best.This gospel enables us to seek for
the true God and to find him. But are we
willing to pay the price of this entrance into the kingdom of heaven? Are
we willing to be born again? to be remade? Are we willing to be subject to
this terrible and testing process of self-destruction and soul
reconstruction?
Has not the Master said: "Whoso would save his
life must lose it. Think not that I have come to bring peace but
rather a soul struggle"? True,
after we pay the price of dedication to the
Father's will, we do experience great peace provided we continue to
walk in these spiritual paths of consecrated
living.
Now are we truly forsaking the lures of the known order of existence while
we unreservedly dedicate our quest to the lures of
the unknown and unexplored order of the
existence of a future life of adventure in the
spirit worlds of the higher idealism of divine reality. And we seek
for those symbols of meaning wherewith to
convey to our fellow men these concepts of the
reality of the idealism of the religion of Jesus, and we will not
cease to pray for that day when all mankind shall be thrilled by the
communal vision of this supreme truth.
Just now, our focalized concept of the Father, as held in our hearts, is
that God is spirit; as conveyed to our fellows, that God is love.
The religion of Jesus demands living and
spiritual experience. Other religions may consist in traditional
beliefs, emotional feelings, philosophic consciousness, and all of that,
but the teaching of the Master requires the
attainment of actual levels of real spirit progression.
The consciousness of the impulse to be like God is not true religion. The
feelings of the emotion to worship God are not true religion. The
knowledge of the conviction to forsake self and serve God is not true
religion. The wisdom of the reasoning that this religion is the best of
all is not religion as a personal and spiritual experience.
True religion has reference to destiny and
reality of attainment as well as to the reality and idealism of that which
iswholeheartedly faith-accepted.And all of this must be made personal to us by
the revelation of the Spirit of Truth.
And thus ended the dissertations of the Greek philosopher, one of the
greatest of his race, who had become a believer in
the gospel of Jesus
What Ive been doing is finding verses in my focalisation which I feel are
relevant in my journey to the ancient places. However, many people I feel will
see different things in the scriptures in the above for there own reasons.
I feel the former things or the beginning is the actual beginning where all
things began and its points to the first cites of all civilisation and I feel
the end will lay there. The end as in obsolete things and interpretations
replaced by expanded truth for all of us with far better definition.
This I believe is the desire of Jesus looking at things more broadly with
expanded truth and which doesn't compromise the teachings of Jesus but
empowers his truth to a wider people that can be studied.
Personally, all these things will make the religion of Jesus more cool and
people will want to become in involved in the truth as they can read about a
see it for their own eyes.
This is the first time where physical evidence of this type can be produced in
conjunction with the scriptures. But there is a challenge embracing many books
in viewing them with an open mind and to see the demonstration.
The demonstration of truth in the making through discovery, exploration and
verification, far better than argument.
I think we are on great path that will positive benefits.
In essence we are proving the Father in the physical demonstrated and no one
will have an excuse and its open for all people no matter where they come from
or who they are.
Those verses in the above are very very powerful and I believe the ancient
places was definitely foreseen by the prophets and something is attached to
it, like judgement.
I feel they are the real sign above any sign perceived at the moment.
Thanks for having a look, I appreciate it.
All the best
Sevens
« Reply #12 on:Today at 06:44:20 am
Give it break Calvin
you have not demonstrated and operate out of fear, spreading fear.
That is not the way of Jesus our master and you know that.
The only Gods (in your words) here is the Father, Jesus and the Sevenfold
Seraphic mission headed by the Ancient of Days. That is all, there no one else!
The last rebel is defeated! and is ready for adjudication and which means a
great breakthrough for mankind. That means for everyone! not just the few! or
the so called chosen.
This is bigger than the reformation, this is the true reformation brought about
by the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven and mankind can demonstrate that through
research, exploration, discovery of the beginning which is the end and
verification.
There is no exclusivity in this major breakthrough for man and this truth will
smash the doctrine behind terrorism unlike anything else on the planet. Through
shear enlightenment of the complete truth, all the truth.
I rejoice in that fact!
Lucifer, Satan and Caligastia and others are at the doors of Court for there day
in court and there will be no white knight to save them.
sevens
« Reply #4 on:Today at 04:46:19 pm
»
No not at all Norman, you are not clueless nor is Christianity.
However I believe that a completion is set for Christianity in expansion where
all the books are opened including a new book and the standards out of the books
that are open will judgement be based on.
I think its a time for review and testing along with the information.
Hey about the video ahahahah that was just humor based on the Urantia Book. I
thought he was a funny guy and I had a laugh, like he said lighten up! and so we
should.
Honestly I would be quite happy for Christianity to test the evidence of the
ancient cities, the former things by going out there. I believe its the
demonstration that points to a new Book from the Kingdom of Heaven and which
also embraces the Bible and many books.
Also understand that in the end times Jesus will not recognize a few that heal
and say things in his name because the attitude is not consistent with the
teachings of Jesus and of Jesus himself. Is he speaking about stiff necked
attitudes? in light of much evidence already??
It is a time for review and expansion for all mankind with all things and the
end times is all about attitude in light truth that is arising.
On the contrary its is an exciting time for Christianity and Jesus has not
abandoned the Church or does the Church abandon Jesus in his efforts through
closed mindedness??
Sevens
« Reply #4 on:Today at 05:15:17 pm
»
AAAh I'm not interested in a Nobel peace prize, I
am very happy with what I have been blessed with I couldn't ask for more from
our great Father in heaven.
Just to be given an insight to this thread of truth is very satisfying for me.
There is nothing in the Babylon System that could satisfy me as Jesus our friend
has blessed me with. For what Jesus and the Sevenfold Seraphic mission has
blessed me with is just fantastic and I praise the Lord for that and is beyond
all measure! and I have no fear at all but just increased love for him and one
another and desire to define the truth better, wider and deeper.
In regards to an expedition, Yes, its in the first stages of desire and I would
love to go out to the Persian Gulf and verify the discovery and I would also
love traditional Christianity to be on board to, even in the debate because I
believe the proof will be in the discovery, in the physical that will verify all
the information. I also would like some atheists to be on board to as this will
prove something to them as well.
Personally, it would be worldwide contest of the truth of the matter. Not that
we have to prove Jesus or God because we know that within ourselves but there
are many people on the planet that would require that evidence, it would an
exciting time for all of us as I believe that we have entered into the
dispensation of the Messiah and the discovery of the ancient places
inaugurates the beginning of this period. I even opened the office of the
Messiah in celebration of this event so in faith I walk having complete
trust in the Father of the Kingdom of Heaven.
I would love yourself and Calvin to be on this boat even though we have
different thoughts it would be most exciting for us all and it would be of
benefit to the congregation, the body of Jesus.
At the end of the day, the way I see things Christianity in new light and truth
will be the most expanded and best religion to be involved in and will outstrip
anything on the planet because it can be demonstrated and all the arguments of
the atheists will fall in a heap of rubble! It will be total decimation of
there logic. complete devastation and I believe that is the reckoning of all
things inconsistent and untrue also that includes certain aspects of doctrine
to, its a correction for all and its our attitude that is looked upon in light
of greater but embracing truth.
And I want you and Calvin to be there so you can investigate the truth of the
matter in the light of verification and I know the Father and Jesus desire this
to.
Coming back to the expedition, I have no money nor influence to finance such an
effort, I wrote to President Bush and informed him of my efforts and all the
information of the ancient cities and even suggested that the US Navy go there
and check it out, I even wrote to the Supreme Leader of Iran and told him and
his President about the places and that he should check it out as i believe it
is for the future with warning attached in the attitude.
I phoned a Hollywood production company responsible for Indiana Jones and I
didn't even get to first base as I know no one and I am not part of the closed
and locked family of Hollywood. Ive tried to compel Christianity to finance an
expedition but I never any get responses to that either.
All I can do is put up the information on a daily basis on behalf of the
Sevenfold Seraphic Mission so that one day a person who can do things will pick
up on it and run with this project on the next level/phase in the process of
verification.
There is nothing I can do apart from writing relying totally on the Father and
Jesus and the Sevenfold seraphic mission headed by the Ancient of Days. It
really is their hands including man.
Sevens
Hi Norman,
Thanks for responding with your query.
Essentially, the information I draw from regarding the 2nd Garden of Eden is
The Urantia Book and its information relating to the default.
Here is the Book of Adam and Eve and it provides a description of where Adam
and Eve was expelled to, its name was the Cave of Treasures and that is
another name for the 2nd Garden of Eden. A small narrow place (between 2
rivers) where they had to work of the sweat of their brow in make their new
home and the Elamite Nodites lived to the East of the land between 2 rivers,
2nd Eden.
Enjoy the study, remember I haven't visited this study in 2 years and in that
time I have discovered many more places and things.
All the best in your reading and research
all the best
Sevens
Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:33 pm
Quote:
but they are not nearly so detailed as are
yours. My speculation involves a world before this one that contained
reptilian life and was ruled by the chief reptile(satan). For some reason
God destroyed the life on this planet and created a new world with creatures
like himself to rule it(man). Satan and his beings were so enraged that they
sought to retake control of the earth. Just speculation.
From what I understand the large reptiles where oversized and had a small
brain and could not adapt to a changing environment and essentially ran out of
food and died out and that's when the mammals began to rule because they had a
larger brain, smaller sized and more adaptable.
I really don't know where you get this Satan thing and the reptiles that were
not even sentient or self reflective. Some theories just become more
preposterous the further down the track we go.
I suppose this is what happens when science is completely excluded from the
equation due to some religious pride or bias which is completely
unsubstantiated in any field.
A reptile wouldn't even be responsive to any
spiritual leading brought about by any spiritual being. Are reptiles
responsive these days responsive to spiritual leadings?...No because they are
not self reflective like us Mammals which have greater capacity being sentient
and reflective of worship and wisdom.
Some of things they teach in schools is just
utter rubbish and dumbs down the people making them ignorant and stupid of the
facts.
Sevens
Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:52 pm
Even if you over the Genesis story from the 1st to
the 7th day its a whole over view of evolution and creation over a period of
time. In a nutshell it forms a evolutional story with the purpose of the
creation but through an evolutional process.
That's how the worlds of time/space come about
to produce sentiency of mankind through the evolution process but with purpose
over time and thats the creational part. The purpose of evolution.
The egg always comes before the chicken. Like
in this world, there was stupid animals and then there was man who became
stupid and dumb with inconstant and wrong teachings.
That's the story.
Sevens
Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:00 pm
Hey Archmichael
I really believe that and its demonstrated, I think its definitely right. I
agree with you to in that we agree ahahahaha!
Yes, I definitely agree that it is a marriage of both thoughts I totally agree
with you thoughts, you're absolutely right!
Adjustment and correction over time right on!
Some of things they teach in the bible belt
regarding this subject is just utter rubbish and should be severely corrected!
Because at the end of the day man becomes divisive with stupid ideas that are
not consistent anywhere and makes no sense at all compared to the facts of
life as demonstrated.
all the best
sevens
Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:23 pm
Yes I agree ArchMichael
That Moses tried to explain this in the simple story of the world but today
because of literal ideas enforced by the church we have this totally
inconsistent overview that forms part of the mass confusion we have on this
planet and is leading no where and going no where and doing nothing for man in
his going forward faith.
Just stick in the mud with silly ideas and preposterous unstable thoughts that
cannot be substantiated on any level of science.
Just stick in the mud with silly ideas and preposterous unstable thoughts that
cannot be substantiated on any level of science. Just walking in chosen
ignorance created by doctrine without no consideration for anything on any
level, an insult to mans intelligence and due diligence in his research with
evidence to offer and an insult to the Father ultimately.
Those who teach this apostasy in all there anti
society views should be fired immediately for dumbing down and benumbing the
people!
Sevens
Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:40 pm
Right on brother
I agree with you on all counts.
You spot there my friend absolutely!
There is a fine presentation to be had in this line of truth and understanding
that would correct this morose thought going around on this subject connecting
all levels of knowledge with harmony and greater understanding.
sevens
« Reply #14 on:Today at 04:29:59 am
»
Hi 12 Apostles
Naah no way!
Thanks for your concern I appreciate it. That's kind.
But I have researched this thoroughly for many years and I use all the
scriptures in abundance including other books and I am absolutely sure I am
right on to it and I know this is where Jesus and the Father wants everyone to
go and its related directly to the heritage of the ages of the beginning of
everything.
This is related to the discovered places which are the former things as
presented in Isaiah, the beginning of the end.
I am not fearful because I am very intimate with the journey for many years.
These are the places where there is unfinished business of the Father and will
serve as an expansion for all mankind, in a deeper and wider way with
definition.
Its a total journey in faith and it has not stopped.
Thanks for your concern but I am not fearful in this journey and never will be
and I have complete trust in the Father of the Kingdom of Heaven and through the
guidance of the Sevenfold Seraphic Mission headed by the Ancient of Days.
I can present the evidence unlike anyone on this planet and its guided by the
books of religion and this will give Christianity so much benefit for the future
and at the same time it marks the parting of the ways for many to.
I feel this is the presentation of the Kingdom of Heaven/Paradise of research,
exploration, discovery and enlightenment. Far better way than war and violence
and we can all learn something that expands and lifts the veil of ignorance.
Essentially it marks the end of the last rebel as he about to go to court, the
universal courts.
Thank you.
Sevens
« Reply #9 on:Today at 04:46:19 am
»
Right on Brother, right on. Yea!
Your post would have to be the most positive and supportive post I ever
received, I feel really blessed.
I'm glad that some one can see clearly see what I see in the journey to the
beginning of the end of ignorance that leads to the former ages or the heritage
of the ages.
The signs are apparent and its only fear within man that prevents him from
seeing this in his rejection.
I believe this is a major breakthrough for religion and for all mankind guided
by the Father in the Paradise and Jesus is most certainly supportive of this
most excellent and high level journey. This is bigger that the reformation far
bigger and entails no violence.
The Father gives his approval of Enoch as seen in the New Testament and I am
amazed that this journey was underpinned by Enoch, the bible and the Urantia
Book (The Sevenfold doctrine/instruction) several years ago without knowing that
Enoch was given approval by the Father in the New testament.
I really praise the Lord for this most excellent experience for all mankind.
I tell you mankind is going to conquer his fear big time in this and it will not
stop and Father in Paradise is right behind full speed ahead and so are the
angels. I really rejoice in this most excellent path of the Lord and Jesus our
sovereign is right here with us guiding everything.
This is the big opportunity for mankind right here, right now and I'm surprised
that all the scholars completely missed this, completely overlooked it. I
suppose rigid and unbending doctrine can do this!
Thanks End times praise the Lord in the Kingdom of Heaven.
The record is written on the run throughout the journey, written each day, the
testament. The only thing left is to go out there and confirm the great City,
the truth of everything, the final truth which will serve as the completion! and
the up step for all mankind.
Sevens
« Reply #6 on:Today at 02:56:27 pm
»
Hi Norman
Thanks for your post, Yes I have to contemplated Rapture many times and I have
searched for the truth of it. I even made all kinds of predictions on Rapture
as I felt rapture could be related to the ancient places as the focal point.
Here is a link where I attempted to accumulate scriptures that I came across
that I felt was related to rapture.
Perhaps I'm ahead of myself on this subject but I feel rapture in essence is a
great learning and correction experience for man in his faith and will be the
reckoning of false attitude brought about by Doctrine which is inconsistent.
This covers all religion not just one religion.
I sense that rapture is related to the end at the beginning (the former things)
and is where the end shall be at the heritage of the ages.
I felt that if man or even his church of the Jesus rejects the final
presentation of the Father at the beginning the Father will rapture the ones
that have faith and the rest that are left behind will have to think about
things for a while. I believe this is the learning experience for man and this
is where doctrine will be corrected and many will murmur about that and will be
greatly disappointed that there doctrine failed them in there attitude which is
the ultimate display.
Rapture is to me is the correction Rod for the Church and this will be the
reckoning of doctrine that is inconsistent with the ultimate truth and attitude
of Jesus.
I believe Jesus is here and if he is not here the Holy Spirit represents him and
Jesus knows exactly what is happening and is guiding everything.
It could very well be that Jesus may visit Iran and its leadership at the point
of rapture to open up the places for exploration there after. In these days no
one is going to lift a finger over here because of gross slothfulness and
disbelief even though we have all the resources to this. This could be the
learning experience of the people and leadership in Iran and for Christianity
together. I believe it is quite possible that Jesus himself will open the door
and stimulate government to explore the places in light of this devastation
where everyone is corrected and will learn something. This could be the lessons
for Islam in the unification of all religion and serves as a correction for
everyone.
In this part it is speculation but to me it makes total sense that all will see
the truth where all pride and prejudice and false notions will be smashed to
pieces.
This would destroy the division that divides us all. Its is prophesied in the
Quran that Jesus will come and slay the last rebel or Dajjal at Babeludd. Not
unlike in Christian prophecy and I believe it would be directly related to the
beginning where the end is. Where the great correction begins! Where there is
still unfinished business of the places relating to the fallen Sons of the
Father.
I believe rapture is the reckoning of all false notions and inconsistency but
more over it is completely related to attitude and stiff necked prejudice filled
words and attitude that ultimately leads to death and destruction as we see
today without a doubt.
Everyone will learn a great lesson and will be humbled totally but in that man
will arise perfected through the trials of his faith in the experience.
At this time the last rebel is restrained to a degree but post rapture the rebel
will be unrestrained for a time because the elect wont be here to subdue the
mischievousness of the rebel and that's when many things will fall apart.
If man, at the end of rapture fails to see this and whitewashes the whole thing
to some pheonomena then there is no alternative to a severe judgment of all
mankind and that's when the Ancient of Days arrive physically committed to
judgment. Post rapture/pre judgment could also mark the the beginning of the
rise of the beast who may be represented as an individual who may very well
hijack the places for his own benefit.
However the corrected faithful ones in this period will be protected and will be
looked after but could mark real devastation for many people in the failure of
the doctrine which is displayed in there ultimate attitude in the post rapture
period.
The dead sea scrolls and information written by the last teacher of
righteousness is completely relevant to this time and by faith, the Office of
the Messiah has been opened and fulfilled as according the words of the last
teacher of righteousness.
As to the timing I have no idea but I feel the timing its is related to the
attitude of man in this time right now! Where I am ahead of myself I have no
idea all I can do is write for the Sevenfold Seraphic teaching corp in this
mission of Earth.
Personally, I don't think there will be many raptured as that will mark the
failure of leadership to pick up on these things and reluctance to share with
the congregation. This time is a time of faith and if the watchtower falls
asleep whilst on duty failing to warn and prepare the congregation then it will
be evident of the failure of leadership and the congregation will not be happy
even though its a individual thing in the attitude!
Its a catch 22, your damned if you don't act and your damned by your peers if
you are ahead of yourself ahahahah.
What a scenario and it will take great boldness and faith for a real leader to
warn the congregation in faith.
Personally, If I was a leader of a great church I would be upfront and honest in
the assessment and I would keep nothing away or even suppress it because the
proof will be in the evidence. That's why I say that it is Christianity's
responsibility to explore these places with a true heart and with sincerity to
explore and search to truth of these places. The truth of the matter! Its for
the congregation sake not for personal standing or anything like that. All
pride will be taken out of man when he realizes he missed the boat because of
attitude in the failure!!
Somehow I think the talk is over and now its in the action battle stations for
the survival of Christianity and all its people in the whole body! So I would
grab the check book and go out there and verify the and check out everything
related to this grand adventure that will have consequences. Its is time for re
evaluation in the search for the truth in the physical! in the verification.
Its is time for re evaluation in the search for the truth in the physical! in
the verification whilst there is time in the beforehand!
Its is time for re evaluation in the search for
the truth in the physical! in the verification whilst there is time in the
beforehand!
I cant do a thing except to write, that's all I can do.
Here is another thread I started sometime ago relating to rapture which may be
beholden to further clues in the great Seventh mystery.
Here are some fragment that I found on another
forum and is completely true in the experience of this journey
Quote
The UB
"The soil essential for religious growth presupposes a progressive life of
self-realization, the co-ordination of natural propensities, the exercise of
curiosity and the enjoyment of reasonable adventure, the experiencing of
feelings of satisfaction, the functioning of the fear stimulus of attention
and awareness, the wonder-lure, and a normal consciousness of smallness,
humility. Growth is also predicated on the discovery of selfhood accompanied
by self-criticism--conscience, for conscience is really the criticism of
oneself by one's own value-habits, personal ideals." 1094:07
"The religion of the spirit means effort, struggle, conflict, faith,
determination, love, loyalty, and progress." 1729:06
"The progression of religious growth leads from stagnation through conflict
to co-ordination, from insecurity to undoubting faith, from confusion of
cosmic consciousness to unification of personality, from the temporal
objective to the eternal, from the bondage of fear to the liberty of divine
sonship." 1098:04-05
"...the religion of the spirit, which entails active participation of mind
and soul in the faith adventure of grappling with the rigorous realities of
progressive human experience." 1729:03
and
Quote
"4.
Soul. The soul of man is an experiential acquirement. As a mortal creature
chooses to "do the will of the Father in heaven," so the indwelling spirit
becomes the father of a new reality in human experience. The mortal and
material mind is the mother of this same emerging reality. The substance of
this new reality is neither material nor spiritual--it is morontial. This is
the emerging and immortal soul which is destined to survive mortal death and
begin the Paradise ascension." 8:10
sevens
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I just want to add that 6 out the 7 seventh
churches in revelation receive a very large rebuke in the final times.
Which churches are they?
To me that speaks of the nearly the whole body of Jesus for failing to recognize
and act when the signs clearly show themselves. It is obvious that the Churches
become slothful and do nothing in their fear, pride and prejudice!! even after
being warned!
Christianity and its leaders are not out of the woods by any
stretch of the imagination no matter what they think about themselves.
There is only one church that receives blessings and that is the church of
Philadelphia 1 out of 7 and they are the true followers and doers of the
teachings of teachers and makes up the smallest contingent!
1 out 7 is not good odds at all and therefore I would listen and act rather than
spurn and reject this journey to the beginning where the end shall take place
and that may possibly be this journey to the Heritage of the Ages.
One manifestation of the rebuke could be those left behind of
the rapture where the thoughts and attitude failed in the end times where those
behind have to review everything about their doctrines and dogma and they will
murmur as foreseen by Isaiah!
By the way this will include all religions that are inconsistent in the attitude
toward their fellow brother in truth to that required of the Father in the
Kingdom of Heaven and Jesus and it will include a new book written by the Finger
of the Father through his angels.
The writing is on the wall as in Babylon!
Sevens
Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:17 am
Yes, I thought that was pretty cool to this part
got me going
Mk 13:10 - The Bible and / or the "little Book".
Not to mention all the other parts
A new book eh, a little book related to judgement.
Does the truth of everything come from the sea that destroys the Babylon
system in truth?? and is it linked to the new book?? perhaps the book on
everything, perhaps [b]the Sevenfold instruction[/b] revealing the whole of
his creation (everything concerning the Kingdom of Heaven) as prophesied in
Enoch and connected to judgement which the Father approves as found in the new
Testament.
Perhaps the air might mean the internet a worldwide facility, the Internet is
also broadcast through Satellite through the air in conjunction with cable and
it could be a world wide presentation. Honestly I wonder if its something to
do with the beginning of all things where the end will be.
I just wonder??
The ArchMichael thoughts made more sense than any other interpretation I have
ever seen on this forum.
Could it be that ArchMichael is right on
target, on the ball here!
Is there a
significant point or event that can tell us the outcome of what occurs?? in
the process leading to judgement??
Brother ArchMichael, you know bro we could be in the actual moment, we could
be all living in the living prophecy right here, right NOW!
How exciting that we could be seeing the actual playing out of the events
before our very eyes.
Beyond all measure!
Sevens
Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:39 am
Lucifer was in charge of this constellation that
our solar system is within and his pride got the better of him. He was created
by Jesus. In essence he was a high level angel so to speak and he is a fallen
son. Lucifer was system soveriegn, higher than angels.
Satan was his sidekick he also fell.
Quote:
UB
The Jewish traditions of heaven and hell and the doctrine of devils as
recorded in the Hebrew scriptures, while founded on the lingering traditions
of Lucifer and Caligastia, were principally derived from the
Zoroastrians during the times when the Jews were under the political
and cultural dominance of the Persians. Zoroaster, like the
Egyptians, taught the "day of judgment," but he connected
this event with the end of the world.
and
Quote:
Melchizedek taught the concept of one
God, a universal Deity, but he allowed the people
to associate this teaching with the Constellation Father of Norlatiadek,
whom he termed El Elyon--the Most High. Melchizedek remained all but silent
as to the status of Lucifer and the state of affairs on Jerusem. Lanaforge,
the System Sovereign, had little to do with Urantia until after the
completion of Michael's bestowal. To a majority of the Salem students
Edentia was heaven and the Most High was God
Quote:
Lucifer, the System Sovereign of
Satania
Here is an interesting excerpt on judgement
Quote:
Then, as the people went down by the river to
witness the baptizing, the first man came privately to Jesus about his
inheritance inasmuch as he thought Jesus had dealt harshly with him; and
when the Master had again heard him, he replied: "My son, why do you
miss the opportunity to feed upon the bread of life on a day like this in
order to indulge your covetous disposition? Do you not know that the Jewish
laws of inheritance will be justly administered if you will go with your
complaint to the court of the synagogue? Can you not see that my work has to
do with making sure that you know about your heavenly inheritance?
Have you not read the Scripture: `There is he who waxes rich by his
wariness and much pinching, and this is the portion of his reward:
Whereas he says, I have found rest and now shall be able to eat
continually of my goods, yet he knows not what time shall bring upon him,
and also that he must leave all these things to others when he dies.' Have
you not read the commandment: `You shall not covet.'
And again, `They have eaten and filled themselves and waxed fat, and then
did they turn to other gods.' Have you read in the Psalms that `the Lord abhors the covetous,' and that `the
little a righteous man has is better than the riches of many wicked.'
`If riches increase, set not your heart upon
them.' Have you read where Jeremiah said, `Let not the rich man glory
in his riches'; and Ezekiel spoke truth when he said, `With
their mouths they make a show of love, but their hearts are set upon their
own selfish gain'."
Jesus sent the young man away, saying to him, "My son, what shall it profit
you if you gain the whole world and lose your own soul?"
To another standing near by who asked Jesus how the wealthy would stand in
the day of judgment, he replied: "I have come to judge
neither the rich nor the poor, but the lives men live
will sit in judgment on all. Whatever else may concern the
wealthy in the judgment, at least three
questions must be answered by all who acquire great
wealth, and these questions are: "1. How much wealth did you accumulate?
"2. How did you get this wealth?
"3. How did you use your wealth?"
Then Jesus went into his tent to rest for a while before the evening meal.
When the apostles had finished with the baptizing, they came also and would
Page 1823 have talked with him about wealth on earth and treasure in heaven,
but he was asleep.
As they sat thinking, Simon Peter asked: "Do you speak this parable to us,
your apostles, or is it for all the disciples?" And Jesus answered:
"In the time of testing, a man's
soul is revealed; trial discloses what really is in the heart. When the
servant is tested and proved, then may the lord of the house set such a
servant over his household and safely trust this faithful steward to see
that his children are fed and nurtured. Likewise, will I soon know
who can be trusted with the welfare of my children when I shall have
returned to the Father. As the lord of the household shall set the true and
tried servant over the affairs of his family, so will I exalt those who
endure the trials of this hour in the affairs of my kingdom.
"But if the servant is slothful and
begins to say in his heart, `My master delays his coming,' and begins
to mistreat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with the drunken, then
the lord of that servant will come at a time when he looks not for him and,
finding him unfaithful, will cast him out in disgrace.
Therefore you do well to prepare yourselves for that day when you will be
visited suddenly and in an unexpected manner. Remember, much has
been given to you; therefore will much be required of you. Fiery trials are
drawing near you. I have a baptism to be baptized with, and I am on watch
until this is accomplished. You preach peace on earth, but my
mission will not bring peace in the material
affairs of men--not for a time, at least. Division can only
be the result where two members of a family believe in me and three members
reject this gospel. Friends, relatives, and loved ones are destined to be
set against each other by the gospel you preach. True, each of these
believers shall have great and lasting peace in his own heart, but
peace on earth will not come until all are willing to believe and enter into
their glorious inheritance of sonship with God. Nevertheless, go
into all the world proclaiming this gospel to all nations, to every man,
woman, and child."
And this was the end of a full and busy Sabbath day. On the morrow Jesus and
the twelve went into the cities of northern Perea to visit with the
seventy, who were working in these regions under Abner's supervision.
Abner eventually started the Church of Philadelphia (Eastern Christian church)
The Eastern branch of Christianity was run over by Islam in 400AD thereabouts.
sevens
sevens
Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:33 pm
these things I said not unto you at
the beginning, because I was with you. 5 But now I go my way to
him that sent me; and none of you asketh me, Whither goest thou? 6 But
because I have said these things unto you, sorrow hath filled your
heart.[/quote]
Does the above relate to the rejection of the hierarchy of the Churches of
what has been revealed on the run concerning the cities of the beginning
and the little book?
I said not unto you at the beginning Is this another
reference to the beginning the focalisation of the journey?? The beginning
as in the cities and relates to the Jesus involvement to this journey
right from the beginning of the beginning of where the end will come.
Note: "because I was with you."
Quote:
I will send him unto you. 8 And
when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness,
and of judgment:
The focus of this journey has been related to the beginning with Judgement
attached and it all has to do with reprove and correction of wrong notions
and attitude. Apparently rejection of the message is regarded as a sin.
" Of sin, because they believe not on me;"
"12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear
them now" Thats because the technology at that was primitive and
man would not understand until the right conditions are ready in the
verification. "13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come,
he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but
whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and HE WILL SHEW YOU THINGS
TO COME. " Yes in the physical demonstration of the discovery
things are being shown and demonstrated and related to the new little book
directly! and the oncoming of judgement as demonstrated in the books of
religion.
"14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall
shew it unto you. 15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore
said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you."
The whole journey has been the glorification of the Father in Kingdom of
Heaven and he will come claim his own. Seem like rapture maybe involved??
"2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had
a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and
to conquer." The bow is the bow of truth as demonstrated and the
crown is the discovery of the lost cities Dalamatia City and 1stEden, they
are the crowns, its a double crown and Van highland headquarters is a 3rd
crown. The crowns have been claimed!
It could be that after rapture that I feel maybe being
related to the ancient beginning places, the submerged cities are perhaps
hijacked for another purpose outside the purposes of the Father. It could
be that the physical beast usurps the claiming of the cities as his own
and capitalizes on it for his own purpose perhaps to strengthen his
religion
in the furtherance of death and destruction??
There two discovers involved in the discovery of the Cities, Dalamatia
City and 1stEden. The battle is truth and getting it out there which
includes interpretation of the scriptures. I would agree with ArchMichael
in the respect that the rider of the white horse is representative of
Jesus, his servant as in the witness.
Note: "this Gospel" which means an expanded gospel
through a little new book which demonstrates of itself in the discovery.
Also consider that through the Internet the expanded Gospel is currently
worldwide and is published where all man has access to the source
information already.
Quote:
1 And after these things I saw
four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding
the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth,
nor on the sea, nor on any tree. 2 And I saw another angel ascending
from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a
loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth
and the sea, 3 Saying, Hurt not the earth,
neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have
sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
Judgement will not come until everything has been fulfilled and the
servants of Jesus have fulfilled there work in the last living Seventh
mystery. Until the Servants of the Father in this living mystery have done
their job I believe rapture will occur and then all hell break loose so to
speak on this planet.
"14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the
world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."
This gospel of the Kingdom is already electronically published throughout
the world on the Internet and I believe it is directly related to the
little new book. This Gospel is being preached throughout the world
through the witness of the discoveries of the cities related to an
expanded little book.
"10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations"
Its is already published worldwide electronically and is accessible
I would like to thank ArchMichael for his work in presenting these
scripture with his thoughts which I think is very accurate.
I wanted to expand on these scriptures in relation to my own focalisation
in the journey to the ancient places.
I think this is the moment and should be researched by all but i know it
will be rejected Also note that if there is usurping of the ancient cities
by the AC you know the truth of the whole journey from the beginning as
documented in may forums such as this.
so all the best and lets see what occurs.
sevens
Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:00 pm
Hey ArchMichael
No problem
In actual fact I think Jesus did give us everything of the last construct
in revelation. Particularly when it mentions the books are are opened and
the mention of a little book and including the use of the Enoch and
including the book of life.
In essence there appears to be multiple books opened and a little book in
the hand of the Angel which in my mind is written by the hands of angels.
There appears to be many books opened in the final days.
Lets list them
The Bible and its prophecies
The Little Book (I believe the UB)
The Book of Enoch (mentioned in the NT, the testimony of Enoch)
The Sevenfold instruction (Prophesied in Enoch to be given by Heaven)
The Book of Life (opened by the Ancient of Days)
and other books that are opened (like books of other religious cultures
that are relevant and have been used in the journey to the beginning)
All the books that are opened (Mentioned in revelation) This means
multiple books that unify in the focalisation.
Out of curiosity here is a word search on Sevenfold in the UB which proves
it as the Sevenfold instruction revealing all of his creation as in Enoch.
As we agree back 2000 years ago Jesus couldn't reveal everything because
the level of understanding and technology was still primitive and even
John probably couldn't understand everything as technology was very
primitive in his day but he wrote in faith and in terms that he could
understand of which we benefit for today but have to decipher in our own
reality of the day. These days its a different story and the conditions
are right so therefore all the embedded information in all the books
relevant to the end times will be extracted and will fit like a glove
clearly pointing to the living mystery in parallel and which can be
understood and its related to the beginning.
Also note that Christianity during this process will go through its
completion because it will be expanded as man has expanded in
understanding in this day compared to 2000 years ago. During my Bible
college days I was always taught that Christianity is not complete and
will go through a completion in the end times and which entails the
opening of many books.
The NT is not the final version as we can clearly read in the Revelation
but it does have everything pertinent to this time and is embraced for now
and the future but there is much more to come and revelation does infer an
expansion of everything through other opened books.
Hey Arch Michael, these are just feelings of mine through my own journey,
everyone has there thoughts on things but I respect what you extracted and
all I'm trying to do is open it up and see if I can see some more stuff.
On the same token everything has to be tested and that's what we are doing
right now.
All the best
Sevens
Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:25 pm
For the truth
It will not make any difference doing this as no one will hear or listen
that's why many will be left behind to relearn doctrine all over again.
It will be the reckoning of all things and mans attitude and this
includes all things inconsistent within the church like attitude and the
failure to understand all things being exampled by pride and prejudice
in ignorance. That's why we have judgement and prophecy and that's why 6
out of the 7 churches are rebuked in the end times.
And that is written in revelation in the NT, its essentially because of
the stiff necked attitude and the limited and poor teaching of the
current disfigured body of Jesus which is marked by division contained
within the whole body.
This also can be seen in the confusion and the lack of depth in the
interpretations currently that you see on this forum.
The rebuke will be the left behind after rapture! and that includes many
people in Christianity particularly the teachers of error for self
serving purposes.
Christianity is going to go through the fire of correction. There are
many that are led by wolves in sheep's clothing and do not respond to
the great signs because they have been benumbed by many teachers taking
advantage of ones fear and capitalizing through imposition on a mans
will, they do this so they receive a pay check at the end of the month.
Essentially, there are many leaders that are just arseholes and I am
against them. Also if there is new truth and which can be demonstrated
they will keep the truth from the congregation and that is simply plain
dishonesty and that's why Jesus will not recognize many who heal and
speak in the name of Jesus because they were only in it for themselves.
They are just a walking hypocrisy!
Actually, I have seen that with my own eyes when a pastor that I knew
admitted that he could not share this truth as it would destroy his
congregation even though he agreed with what was presented was the
truth. What an arsehole that guy was and he was the guy who would preach
give every scrap of your money to me, in which he created a radio
station procured by using the gospel. He left many people devastated and
poor with no recourse! Only his henchman made good money!
This guy will have much to answer for in using the Gospel for self
serving purposes. He is the type that Jesus will not recognize despite
his words and crap because he left a number of people devastated to pick
up the pieces. I tried to contact him a few times but he never returns
the message which shows you the hypocrisy. Because he knew I was right
and he already failed in the light of truth and through his admittance
of truth but rejected it. And that is all over the body of Jesus and
Jesus does not like that all and is not happy with those type of wolves
in sheep's clothing! Always out with the hand for money using the name
of Jesus through emotional blackmail and also using Sevenfold as a bribe
for more blessings in return of giving money!
Totally false doctrine and an insult to the Ancient of Days by using
Sevenfold as weapon for money and through the bribe of Sevenfold
blessings from heaven if you give money! or even tithe which is another
imposition into the personal and financial life of man.
Jesus respected the lady who gave all (a shilling) from a willing heart
even though it was shilling, the last she had. Man should never be
forced nor compelled by some guy to give to the church through doctrine
being used as a weapon. He should give from his own free will of love
for one another and that is more acceptable than the idea of "If I give
I should get back Sevenfold". Absolute crap!
There will be no prosperity in the end times period of which we are
about to enter in the next phase! during the judgment process.
No one fools the Most high! Jesus and his Gospel is not to be used as a
money making scam and those that do will not make at all! they will be
rejected and kicked out of the Kingdom of Heaven.
I think the following chapter has relevance
to the above maybe, it seems dire to a degree.
Quote:
The Multitude in Heaven Praises God
Revelation 19
And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in
heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour,
and power, unto the Lord our God: 2 For true and righteous are
his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which
did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath
avenged the blood of his servants at her hand. 3 And
again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever. 4
And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts
fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen;
Alleluia.
5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise
our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and
great. 6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as
the voice of many waters, and as the voice of
mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God
omnipotent reigneth. 7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to
him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made
herself ready. 8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in
fine linen, clean and white: [1] for the fine linen is the
righteousness of saints. 9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are
they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he
saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God. 10 And I fell at his
feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy
fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus:
worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
The Rider on the White Horse
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse;
and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True,
and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12
His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns;
and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he
was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called
The Word of God. 14
And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses,
clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his
mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the
nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he
treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written,
KING OF KINGS, AND Lord OF LordS. 17 And I saw an angel
standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice,
saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come
and gather yourselves together unto the
supper of the great God; 18 That ye may eat the flesh
of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and
the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of
all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their
armies, gathered together to make war against him
that sat on the horse, and against his army. 20 And
the beast was taken, and with him the
false prophet that wrought
miracles before him, with which he deceived
them that had received the mark of the beast, and them
that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a
lake of fire burning with brimstone.
21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the
horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were
filled with their flesh.
This must be the clue to the man on the white horse
"he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself."
sevens
I think the following chapter has relevance
to the above maybe, it seems dire to a degree.
Quote:
The Multitude in Heaven Praises God
Revelation 19
And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in
heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and
power, unto the Lord our God: 2 For true and righteous are his
judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which
did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath
avenged the blood of his servants at her hand. 3 And again they
said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever. 4 And the four
and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and
worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.
5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise
our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and
great. 6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as
the voice of many waters, and as the voice of
mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God
omnipotent reigneth. 7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to
him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made
herself ready. 8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in
fine linen, clean and white: [1] for the fine linen is the righteousness
of saints. 9 And he saith unto me,
Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the
marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true
sayings of God. 10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said
unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren
that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of
Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
The Rider on the White Horse
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse;
and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True,
and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His
eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he
had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was
clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the
armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in
fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a
sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he
shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the
winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And
he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF
KINGS, AND Lord OF LordS. 17 And I saw an angel
standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to
all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather
yourselves together unto the supper of the
great God; 18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and
the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of
horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both
free and bond, both small and great.
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their
armies, gathered together to make war against him that
sat on the horse, and against his army. 20 And the
beast was taken, and with him the
false prophet that wrought
miracles before him, with which he deceived
them that had received the mark of the beast, and them
that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a
lake of fire burning with brimstone.
21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the
horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were
filled with their flesh.
This must be the clue to the man on the white horse
"he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself."
and I thought the following chapter was interesting but seem down the
track.
Revelation 21And I saw a new heaven
and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed
away; and there was no more sea. 2 And I John saw the holy city,
new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared
as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a
great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God
is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people,
and God himself shall be with them, and
be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their
eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying,
neither shall there be any more pain: for
the former thingsare passed away. 5
And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold,
I make all things new. And he said unto me, [b]Write:
for these words are true and faithful.6 And he said unto me,
It is done.
I am Alpha and Omega,
the beginning and the end.
I will give unto him that is athirst of the
fountain of the water of lifefreely.
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; [1] and
I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers,
and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall
have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone:
which is the second death.
The New Jerusalem
9 And there came unto me one of the
seven angels which had the seven vials
full ofthe seven last
plagues, and talked with me, saying,
Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the
Lamb's wife.
10 And he carried me away in the spirit
to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy
Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, 11 Having the glory of
God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious,
even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; 12 And had
a wall great and high, and had twelve gates,
and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon,
which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of
Israel:
13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three
gates; and on the west three gates. 14 And the wall of the city
had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve
apostles of the Lamb. 15 And he that
talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates
thereof, and the wall thereof. 16 And the city lieth
foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured
the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the
breadth and the height of it are equal. 17 And he measured the
wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the
measure of a man, that is, of the angel. 18 And the building of
the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto
clear glass. 19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were
garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was
jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an
emerald; 20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh,
chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a
chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.
21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls; every several gate
was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were
transparent glass. 22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God
Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to
shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the
light thereof. 24 And the nations of them
which are savedshall walk in the
light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and
honour into it. 25 And the
gates of it shall not be shut at
all by day: for there shall be no night there. 26 And they
shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it. 27 And there
shall in no wise enter into it any thing
that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie:but they which
are written in the Lamb's book of life.
A city with gates like the gates to the submerged first cities, the first
submerged places and the former things.
A city with gates like the gates to the
submerged first cities, the first submerged places and the former things.
and
Quote:
12 And, behold, I come
quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according
as his work shall be.
13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning
and the end, the first and the last.14 Blessed are they that do his commandments,
that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through
the gates into the city. 15 For without are dogs, and
sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever
loveth and maketh a lie. 16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify
unto you these things in the churches.
I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning
star.
About the Horseman Yes, I agree to I came to
that conclusion as well last night as I going through the scriptures.
However, from what I understand Michael is another name for Jesus but
whether he his the horseman I tend to think its a witness representative.
Quote:
No. I said, "I can't believe" that Christ didn't give us everything.
In other words, I do believe Christ gave us everything.
But Jesus did give everything to man in the Revelation NT, everything
about the last construct but is leading us to more contained in all the
books that are opened for the future which does include a little and new
book inclusive of everything pertinent. I rejoice in that fact!
Mind you out of all the books that are opened it really ends at the
Johns revelation and with the view of moving forward to new horizons in
knowledge and understanding in which Jesus is leading us all and
remember that Jesus couldn't give everything 2000 years for man as man
could bare or understand it..right! There was more to come and we are
alert of it today.
Very exciting isn't it and gives real life more so to the words being in
the experience of living it in faith and doing things in the beforehand
only to see it written in the beforehand. And then it manifests. A real
Paradise timeline event in faith and true to its words in the reality.
That's my view, everyone has there idea!
But I see everything very much reflected in the journey to the beginning
of where the end will occur.
Hey about my website link that I posted. The thought of making those
gates leading to the beginning was a just an idea that occurred to me.
It was one day when I got sick of giving everything away so easily to
man without man lifting a finger I thought up the idea of the Gates to
the beginning cities. I felt man had to work a little to the cities to
find the pearl of great price, the Crowns of the first places, the
beginning.
It was only during the construction of the Gates that I started to find
scripture relating to gates and the city. I found it confirmed in my
mind as I was building the gates on the website.
Not the other way round, when I knew and then built the gates, I built
and then found it written and I thought using all the scriptures in all
the opened books in the gate paths relating to the Crowns and the former
things was perfect with links to other relating studies. It becomes a
learning experience through the scriptures on the paths that lead to the
first and beginning ancient places.
That was an amazing experience!
also
Quote:
The only books that I read that are
"opened" in Rev 20, are the Book of Life, and each individual
AUTOBIOGRAPHICAL book that was recorded for each person who lived a
life on Earth. In other words, as we live our life here on earth, our
book is updated daily with the good and bad that we do daily. It is
from those books that we are judged, to wit:
isn't everyone life in the Book of Life? and out of the books that are
opened everyone is judge upon the standards contained within them.
That to me suggests religious books pertinent to the journey and last
construct before rapture of the elect.
Everyone's life within the book of life...The life book of everyone
opened within the book of life! How you live your life!
Sevens
Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:31 am
Hi
Ive been contemplating all the scripts posted up from the Revelation and
I m convinced that we have seen a great truth on these scriptures and
actually living it out.
Deep down I feel very peaceful and quietly confident that there is an
activation, all it takes is a realisation that incepts the nest stage in
the journey.
I all of this man has to work it out and contemplating.
I feel there is something stirring in the heavens and I'm sure its
related to the beginning.
Personally, I'm really happy the ArchMichael made this thread and I
think it has created much value in the thoughts that have been expressed
as we look at the scriptures.
I feel we are in an advanced stage of an event of some sort. I think its
a matter of time and maybe its related to rapture. The first translating
death. Which rapture when the Father comes for his sealed. I feel I have
a great realisation from the end scriptures and it reflects many aspects
of the journey to the beginning. I cant help think about and the short
term prospects before rapture.
I think we are very advanced in the scriptures and I would very prepared
no matter what anyone things in there idea. I think this just universal
call. I think the prospect of seeing Jesus is something we all have in
common regardless of interpretation that we may have.
Sevens
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Don't feel bad, I have problems with a lot passages in the Bible,
too. I'm just not an organized religion type of person.
Hi no I dont feel bad at what Ive discovered, not at all. Because I found
the key in all the books of religion I feel quite invigorated and rather
happy. Just recently I feel there has been a big realisation even in
revelation.
With the UB well that your decision and thoughts and there is nothing I
can say that will convince you otherwise.
At the end of the day it has to demonstrate itself and I feel its doing
that in my own journey to the ancient places and I am very happy about
despite people thoughts that perhaps is negative.
By the way organized religion?? No not me just and individual religionist
and does believe that religion has much truth in it and I feel it is
manifesting itself! and nothing that you or I cant stop as I feel
something has been activated that will make everything wider, deeper and
loving. All it takes is for one individual to find the key! and then??
Regards
sevens
Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:03 pm
Quote:
Well-said, and True! Your "universal
call", is what I call, "The Universal Truth". There really is no,
"Jew" or "Christian". We are all one in The Lord, and there is only
ONE UNIVERSAL TRUTH! That universal truth shall be
exercised in the Millennial reign of Christ on Earth, when there will
no longer be a "Jew", or "Christian", or "Muslim", or "black", or
"white", or "American", or "Aussey", et el..... and I dearly look
forward to that day!
For sure ArchMichael
I agree with what you say the truth is beyond all barriers of dogma,
race and religion, the truth is the truth and we explore the truth to
see what it beholds and which leads to the Father in our own individual
way and yet with the commonality of the Jesus we all share. Its in the
sharing with friendliness connecting to the commonalities we find in our
own research that make the one.
I really look forward to the day , undoubtedly...I constantly think
about it.
All blessings
sevens
Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:45 am
ey Jimmy, I can agree, to a degree that you
can find what you want in the scriptures but there must be an ultimate
reality and truth and thats what I'm concerned with.
I was wonder do you know what the Seventh Mystery is? and how it plays
out in Revelation? in the reality in the final construct to change.
What I rest on is the evidence in the images and what was written about
them and then try and find the commonality in all the books and thats
what I'm finding as I look in the New testament.
For example in the following piece I see much commonality to this
journey in some ways sine truth fragment snippets
(Matthew 4:1-10 “Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the
wilderness to be tempted of the devil. And when he had fasted
forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred. And
when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of
God, command that these stones be made bread. But he answered
and said, It is written, Man shall not
live by bread alone,
but by every word that proceedeth out of
the mouth of God. Then the devil taketh him up into
the holy city, and setteth him on a
pinnacle of the temple,
And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for
it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee:
and in [their] hands they shall bear thee
up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. Jesus
said unto him,
It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. Again,
the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth
him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; And
saith unto him, All these things will I give thee,
if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
hen saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written,
Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him
only shalt thou serve.”)
Well looking in commonality of this journey to the ancient places
Dalamatia City, 1St Eden, the Dilmuns and the Highland headquarters I
see much in common. There all Cities with Temples in the middle of
them??
For example
"“Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be
tempted of the devil. And when he had fasted [b]forty days and forty
nights, he was afterward an hungred."[/b]
I look in accordance to this journey to the ancient places and on July
4th 06 I declared a 40 day test based on the 40 days of Jesus in the
wilderness for 40 days, Noah's Ark 40 days and Roaming in the wilderness
for 40 years. Why I declared the test is because I was fed up with
terrorism
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/test.htm 4 days after I found Enoch's
10 week judgement I declared the test of mankind and its was in the 70
day I found Babel/Dilmun and 1stSusa. The test extended itself for a
year confirmed in another book where at the beginning of the 40 test in
the next season I discovered Dalamatia City, the real one. Equal timing
in the discovery.
I believe that we are still in the test and the ancient places is the
veichle in the test and is still active.
In the following
"If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made
bread. But he answered and said, It is written, Man
shall not live by bread alone,
but by every word that proceedeth out of the
mouth of God."
If I look in commonality to this journey one of the conditions of the
success of this expedition is the verification of the city and the
lifting of the Seven commands as proposed last year on this forum. The
only stones that Jesus and the Lucifer would have are the stones of
truth, the Seven Noah's Noahaic (so to speak) commands.
To make them into bread would that be like a sell out, a compromise of
truth in the discovery in the physical which may not be myself! "but
by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God."" Also the
association to the word of God and living by it as I have been in this
complete journey to the ancient places. Where I have shared it with
everyone with openness so others could benefit, Its been honest and
sincere and freely given in the adventure, not asking for price or
reward.
So we have association to this journey to the ancient places we have
the:
40 days 40 nights = the Forty day test in the journey declare on July4th
06
Stones = Seven commands
word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God = connected to
documentation of the journey to the first places and shared for years
the whole time.
and now this piece
"the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth
him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;"
In commonality to the journey we are speaking directly about lost first
and second temples of the Father in the middle of cities, the beginning
places. They are the Crowns of ancient heritages of the ages unsurpassed
and never revealed before through a faith journey led through the
wilderness where there is hunger and thirst but being led through the
books of heaven. These places are the former glories of ancient ages.
The mountains are the temples.
Anyway I find it interesting that now we are speaking of the Holy cites
of the past and about the glory of them.
Does this story of Jesus temptation reflect the final construct of what
the last construct is? and in essence reflects this journey to the
ancient places with all the key components.
Is there still more to be revealed in this mystery of how, in the
reality the end shall come??
Jimmy, I cant help see the commonalities in the scriptures.
Quote:
Like in Enoch 93:11
11 [For who is there of all the
children of men that is able to hear the voice of the Holy One without
being troubled ? And who can think
His thoughts ? and who is there that can
behold all the works 12 of heaven ?
And how should there be one who could behold the heaven, and who is
there that could understand the things of heaven and see a soul or a
spirit and could tell thereof, or
ascend and see 13
all their ends and
think them or
do like them ? And who is
there of all men that could know
what is the breadth and the length of the earth, and to whom has been
shown the measure of all of them ?
Sevens
Other Historical Accounts
The Book of Enoch
Although not recognized as canonical literature, the
Apostle Jude in the Bible has quoted the Ethoptic version call Enoch 1.
There are several distinct writing styles and there was uncertainty of
authorship for the whole book. This (in part) prevented it from becoming
a part of the Bible. The book however was recognized for it’s historical
content in the time of Jesus and was accepted as such and quoted.
In it we find the mention of one of the fallen angels
called "Watchers" (this term is used by Daniel) who "scattered over the
earth the secrets of heaven". We are told that God was angry that they
disclosed certain secrets of heaven to their offspring, things men were
striving to learn, and which God did not intend to reveal to fallen man.
Along with these secrets, other acts began to take place that even
shocked the citizens of earth. "They began to devour one another, and
drink the blood."
Then the waters returned
and covered the chariots, the horsemen, and all the army of
Pharaoh that came into the sea after them. Not so much as one of them
remained.
But the children of Israel had walked on dry land in the midst of
the sea...' 1
Evidently, according to
this Biblical statement, all bodies were claimed by the sea, Pharaoh
being no exception. The rout was total. As against this, the following
is the statement of the Quran referring to the same event. The
difference is so obvious:
And We brought the
children of Israel across the sea; and Pharaoh and his hosts pursued
them wrongfully and aggressively, till, when the calamity of
drowning overtook him, he said, 'I believe that there is no God but He
in Whom the children of Israel believe, and I am of those who submit
to Him.'
What! Now! While thou
wast disobedient before this and wast of those who create
disorder.
So this day We
will save thee in thy body alone that thou
mayest be a Sign to those who come after thee. And surely,
many of mankind are heedless of Our Signs. 2
Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:12 pm
I was thinking about the temptation of Jesus
all night.
I was thinking that Lucifer was revealing the end times scenario and all
it components before its time and was preempting/tempting Jesus to
reveal the end time scenario in his hunger. Perhaps thats why Jesus said
to Lucifer to get behind me as Lucifer was in the beforehand and using
the end time scenario tempting Jesus by impatience and discomfort ahead
of time. The last construct is not to be revealed until the appointed
time and it is for the purpose of the Father in the right time and is
probably why Jesus told Satan to fall in line and get behind him.
I believe the end times was meant to be a
joint venture between man himself and Jesus in the journey of revealing
truth in a educational, discovery verification process. Like in a
class at school. Through enlightenment. Using world reality
in realisation.
I still believe the temptation of the Jesus was something to do with the
beginning places and its revealment in the End Times.
The only way to test is to go out there, talk are just opinions but we
can test these thoughts in the physical verification of the places. We
already have with 1stEden.
I also believe that when the end times scenario, living reality is
demonstrated and things are actually shown, there will be natural
resistance to the journey but the problem is, is that as resistance
grows the scenario will just keep on fulfilling itself in the forward
reality where it will fulfill all the standards embedded in all the
books with the right interpretation. But still people will resist even
when they can witness the journey and the all the discoveries of the
cities and the glory of them in truth in all the books. But then as
people argue through counter scripts and so forth..... A sudden event
occurs then people will say Oh! he was right but it will be to late to
change your mind because you will think why am I still here and why is
my brother no where to be seen?? and that's the realisation and that's
when relearning begins with murmuring, through a correction and I feel
that's when the tribulation begins because all the restraining goodness
worthy of the Kingdom of Heaven will be withdrawn of the planet! The
last Rebel will be unrestrained and that's when I feel the true
tribulation begins. I feel we are in the pre tribulation/realisation
stage.
In the Shepherding stage as we walk
through the abyss in the shadow of the valley of death with our friend
and Saviour Jesus as our guide through the cities and books, world
realities and in the discovery verification.
I believe that Seventh Trumpet and the finish of the 7th Mystery and is
the Rapture call of the first death, translation of the Elect!
Like I said before, rapture is both a Salvation and a rebuke and is the
correction in truth of all divisive religions and attitudes.
Then that's the realisation of missing the first death which is
translation! Its because of a lack of faith! simple faith like a child.
Sevens
Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:57 am
The fall of Lucifer, Satan and the rest of
the rebels occurred approximately 200,000 years ago, 162,000 years
before Adam which was the second epochal revelation.
The fall of Dalamatia City is the result of the first default of the
Sons of God. The Adamic default was the 2nd default of another Son of
God 38,000 years ago.
So where are you Calvin Noble? faded away
like your ideas of limitation with nothing to show. Just like everyone
else and their attacks of no worth or even demonstration.
the easiest thing is to ignore which is another form of running to the
hills.
All that attitude is accountable and is representative of all the
churches and you and the churches are certainly included in
accountability to the truth.
Quote:
"This is a real mystery."
What rubbish, The Devil is no mystery those entities are not part of the
future. There is no mystery amongst them just falsity even though the
real mystery has presented itself and yet you run to the hills hoping
your doctrine will save you in light of demonstration of truth.
Who do you work for man? You seem to be more interested in the Rebels
than the truth. If anything the rebels, all of them bar the last one who
still remains on this planet, are in chains awaiting adjudication of the
Ancients of Days. What we are in now is the last scene that is most
certainly playing out in the actual reality.
Those rebels are finished even as we speak the last rebel is finished
and has failed utterly, the only thing the last rebel works on is the
division amongst supposed men of God and in the total ignorance of most
people in there failure to recognize the truth as it arises not to
mention the failure of recognition of the churches. The churches are in
a sick state currently, all of them! not to mention other one God
religions.
Accountability is something you can not ignore nor run away from.
Sevens
Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:02 pm
Quote:
We know that Satan is the ruler of this
physical earthly world from Jn 16:11, along with many other
references.
I understand what you say but in actual fact Jesus defeated Satan in his
life here and Jesus does rule this planet being his home of his
incarnation where he achieved complete sovereignty of his universe.
Jesus is the one and only ruler, the last rebel is only the pretender.
The last rebel is a fake. The Melchizedek is the new Planetary prince
working with Jesus in the rehabilitation of this planet through the
truth.
Lucifer and Satan and all his pack mates have no standing in any part of
the universe and when they go to court there personality will be
annihilated never to ever to return.
This is a once only event and it will never repeat. The planet is
destined to move forward and will never come to this junction ever again
and Jesus and Melchizedek do rule and are ready for the future.
Me personally, the work on the last Seventh mystery is finished and
complete and it is only a matter of time before an event occurs! All the
ancient places and landmarks of the ancients have been revealed and
broadcast to the world through the NET.
I know no one is going to go out there to verify the Heritages of the
ages because man is a weakling, a fraud, a real coward in the greatest
sense and that includes all the churches and there crap in what they
teach to poor man in his weaknesses, vulnerability including fear that
the churches still promote and use as a weapon to rope people in. Not to
mention all the pride, prejudice and judgement upon others.
I know the UB says what we have is better than no faith on anything but
still the methods employed in my mind is totally unacceptable in the use
of fear and promotions of unrealities due to ignorance hiding behind
doctrines and thoughts without any demonstration, even in light of
discovery!
Rapture is where the rebuke of the
churches lays and that is part of the Seventh Mystery. People after
rapture if they still have no faith and still do the things they do
today will join there rebel pack mates in personality annihilation and
that is the second death and last chance.
This time now is the best time for review
and expansion but still people will still ignore and hide behind there
crap that has no bearing nor standing!
The time between the first death and the
second death is purely for the benefit of the churches and for those who
desire to learn the truth as in the demonstration. That is the mercy of
the Father! helping man along the way!
Sevens
Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:19 pm
Your comments only show how little you know
and how little you research.
That 95% you speak of also represents the infiltration of the last rebel
within the churches through confusion and division. Remembering in
revelation that 6 out of the Seven churches are rebuked an area in the
bible you fail to recognize or sidestep!!
I would suggest a real and honest review of your doctrines but I don't
think your capable of that as in your demonstration.
6 out of 7 is .87 pretty close to your 95% that's alot of people and many
churches judged accordingly for being stiffed necked and stubborn to the
Seventh mystery that is presenting itself!
The Seventh Mystery will be completed and the
trumpet call entails Jesus coming for his own who are sealed. That is the
first death, translation and blessed are they who make the standard of the
first death or translation. After that the earth and its remaining
inhabitants will be hurt during the tribulation.
Also that little book that the Angel has in his hands is the new book
written by the hands of the angels and that is the Sevenfold doctrine that
reveals the whole of his creation and that can be found in Enoch of which
is approved by the Father as found in the New Testament! in Hebrews so I
would suggest read and eat it and then you will find that it leads to the
UB which is the Sevenfold doctrine another book you can begin to eat. The
Sevenfold doctrine is the book that is responsible for the discovery of
the Heritage of the Ages, the former landmarks of the Ancient Fathers,
that is the demonstration of the Sevenfold doctrine/instruction and is the
correction and compliment of the Bible with its many wayward doctrines man
created along the way with poor interpretations coupled with very bad
leadership.
The Bible was not responsible for the discovery of the Heritage of the
ages and the glory of them it was the Sevenfold Doctrine...The UB, that
stone of truth! However, the Bible in fragments does behold the journey
and discovery as foreseen by the ancient prophets including the failure of
man to verify and confirm. The last construct is in revelation and its the
construct that is playing out today! Not tomorrow, but today in the
reality. The record written today of the journey to the ancient places or
the Heritage of the Ages is the record for the left behind for the benefit
of those left behind as they will have to relearn doctrine because they do
not make the grade due to poor teaching and leadership without any depth.
Eat this book if you have the courage you may learn something in amongst
your murmuring!
sevens
Sun Mar 09, 2008
11:11 pm
Out of all the people on this forum I feel
ArchMichael is the only one that has something going on and is closest
to the truth because he is open minded and willing to venture new
considerations and thoughts without all the pride and prejudice crap!
the rest forget, not even close to the target in there denial and non
demonstration.
No one has to believe me that is quite OK. I am not here to make
friends just here to tell the truth. I don't want friends nor
popularity because I know there are those that hate me and do come
against me even in my own family through manipulation to halt this
work and they will be judged severely according to there inner
thoughts, selfishness and motivations.
But if there was someone that you want to believe and that has
reliability within the parameters of the Bible doctrine that would be
ArchMichael he is a truth seeker not a blind follower of wolves in
sheep's clothing. He is a real man of God with courage and intellect
who is willing and open minded to seek the truth of everything willing
to chart his course with Jesus as his leader and master.
sevens
Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:21 am
Those Nodite Gorillas in Wall
street will have very much to answer for
They are all accountable for all their deception upon there fellow
brother and living of the backs of men without responsibility and they
will get away with it because the government has its hands tied by
these Nodites.
It comes back to the Banking system and its fraudulent practices and
how they live of the backs of all mankind.
They are the last people who would care for mankind.
There system will not survive and that is destined.
The Government will just put forth some correction but in reality its
only a whitewash, a feeble attempt to satisfy the anger of man in
being deceived and being controlled by a sophisticated form of slavery
of compounding interest debt that is rampant upon all mankind!
Money that is common to all mankind should be nationalized worldwide
and profit from loans should be abandoned as we can see the
devastating results that it does to mankind. Banking should be all non
profit as we can see the irresponsibility of man and his brokers in
today's times in there complete selfishness and who couldn't give a
crapper for his fellow brother.
We and you are only slaves to the system, all the real freedom will
lay in the after life and after Jesus comes back.
The Nodite system of this planet is set for destruction by the
judgement of the Father through the Ancients of Days.
Nodite you better correct or watch out because your system is set for
destruction utterly! and all your riches will be taken away and
inherited by the Sons of God or the elect.
We currently live in the greatest scam and deception ever and a scam
that is unique to this planet being the most darkest and most sinful
inhabited planet in this sector of Jesus' universe.
Why do think think that Jesus was most
angry with the money changers and threw them out of the temple.
Because they held power over the masses due to monopolization of the
currency used in religion. Exactly what we have today through the
Federal Treasury Reserve which affects all mankind and creates fear
for man and his family where most families of the planet live a
desperate life which completely unacceptable to the Father.
I tell you mankind has been really done over by these Nodites who rule
this financial world with the last rebel. But there end is coming
close, its real close and the scam period will finish very soon.
Like Jesus said to Satan, get behind me
and The Father will not compromise in this day will not make any deals
at all with these selfish grubby evil people and whom they represent.
There are absolutely no deals for those who walk on the selfish line
of life.
Sevens
Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:48 am
There is absolutely no need for profit on
the sale of money and all profits after maintaining infrastructure
should given back to all man through improvement. Not the stock market
that is bull crap run by insincere selfish people.
If there was no interest of money being non profit, all man would have
a house for his family with no debt in the shortest space of time and
that is essential for the stability of the family and for the country.
Currently man is being scammed blatantly!
You cannot trust man with money and power least of all the Nodites who
rule the financial world.
The world would be a far better place
with all these compounding interest rates that is used as a viechle in
spreading fear and uncertainty and does separate man from the Father.
There are 3 questions that all who
accumulate wealth will be asked during judgment and these questions
are:
Quote:
"1. How much wealth did you
accumulate?
"2. How did you get this wealth?
"3. How did you use your wealth?"
And all rich people will be asked these
questions by the Ancients of Days so beware in how selfish you are
with your so called material riches???? that you accumulated through
opportunity from your fellow brother.
No excuses nor feeble justifications
for your selfishness.
Also Mafioso like in the Sopranos and
criminal gangs who accumulate wealth will not make it at all neither
there offspring!
They are all finished and this will be
the only life they will they will experience. All of them without
proper repentance and giving back of there illegal wealth will
absolutely not make it in the new world and that is guaranteed!
Utterly 100% They are simply the walking dead without proper and
sincere repentance for there dastardly actions upon his fellow
brother.
Separate yourself
from evil and repent from it whilst there is still time and its for
your offspring! You will be accountable for the non survival of your
off spring if you don't repent and that is squarely your
responsibility!!!!!
This judgement upon mankind will be
ruthless and the way of Jesus is the only way one will survive this
absolute appalling spectacle.
sevens
Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:53 am
It just says it all
doesn't just walking the line of ignorance and stupidity in an
uncivilized world like a virus bent on the destruction of man.
Just incompetent leadership in Gaza that goes right Tehran with all
the belligerence and trouble making.
Believe me there will be no blessings for trouble makers and leaders
that are hell bent on death and destruction in there minds and who
continue to waste the fortunes of there people on ridiculous things
that are un survivable and unsustainable in the greater universe.
They are completely wasting there time and energies on fruitless
actions and a people benumbed by totally wrong truth and doctrine in
their destruction and the perpetuation of war.
sevens
Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:04 am
I believe we have reached and fulfilled
much of this regarding the sealing of the prophecy and sealing up the
vision.
* Seventy weeks of Daniel 9:24 are determined for seven reasons
to finish the transgression
to make an end of sins
to make reconciliation for iniquity
to bring in everlasting righteousness to seal up the vision
to seal the prophecy
to annoint the most Holy
and now we are in the waiting game
and you know this one
Quote:
Isaiah 46.9 Remember the
former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else;
I am God, and there is none like me, Declaring the end from
the beginning, and from ancient times the things
that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and
I will do all my pleasure:
Which means unfinished business from the Beginning. ie: the former
temples and cities of the Sons of God and Adam.
sevens
Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:04 am
Oh thats rubbish
where is your demonstration in the scriptures
And what is the Seventh mystery using all the scriptures? Come on what
is it in the reality! Answer that one!
eh!
You have shown nothing from the bible or anywhere.
Just look at your own posts the are so confusing.
who taught you! You don't even know the history of the rebels that
defaulted
Your analysis is way off the mark!
Least I read from the scriptures and draw from them about the ancient
beginnings and I show you the ancient places in reality and if you
want to prove me wrong let go out there and verify either way.
That's what i rest on is the evidence not half baked ideas with no
substance. In case you haven't heard we have verified 1stEden from the
Sevenfold doctrine.
Its obvious you are stuck in the mud going in circles and not even
convincing, its just like the 3 monkey concept.
Start researching pal using everything that you can get your hands on
and I mean everything using everything!
You don't know the bible what have you shown and its your prejudice
that blinds you in your own limitation of comprehension and you can
blame your church for that.
You know you can even look into the
Book of Enoch of which his Testamony has been approved by the Father
stated in the New Testament. This is how useless it is in the
End times and you are supposed to be the all time scholar.
That's the difference of you and
ArchMichael, he demonstrates using scripture and I can see were he is
coming from and sometimes I might add to it based on my own journey.
You just challenge everyone showing nothing just shallow opinions.
You dont have be polite to me you can tell me where to go I dont care.
sevens
Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:27 am
Quote:
I see prophecy for us being fulfilled
there!
So do I Petra so do I.
What we see in the images is just the product of poor and very bad
leadership for the people of the so called people. Then you see these
rich guys in all there selfishness, self attitudes and lusts.
Makes me want to puke! And they all rejoice when there fellow brother
in the greater sense is killed or down in defeat only to lift there
own egos.
Sevens
Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:54 am
Quote:
So, we don’t know what will happen to
us; will we die on faith or not. However, by reciting the personal
name of Lord, Allah, daily at least 500 times, focusing on heart
Who teaches that? Surely the church doesn't teach that?? Surely!
sevens
Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:13 am
Sampson.
First of all sorry for being out spoken its just the way I feel at the
moment and I do this because I want man to be the ultimate victor in
truth.
I believe there is a bridge that can be gapped to there books through
the Bible that is a safe bridge and holds much consistency in its
teachings with the new testament.
On the basis that the Father is happy with the testimony of Enoch, it
would be safe to to research Enoch and its truths of the End times and
the characteristics it beholds about the End times.
Now because Enoch speaks of the Sevenfold Doctrine or instruction
revealing the whole of his creation that would point to new book for
the end times that would reveal the whole truth about the universe and
the planet and it would have to prove itself in the demonstration that
would enlargen the revelation of the Father and he would demonstrate
that through a new Book for the future beyond the New Testament but
also inclusive of it and of the Old Testament and the other books that
it bridges through a commonality which is the Ancient Places, the
beginnings of Civilization and through the discovery of them and
expansion it would bring then a verification.
Now to verify this discovery of the City there should be Stone tablets
with inscriptions on them buried in the city in a time capsule because
of the Tsunami due to rapid submergence and this place is 200,000
years old. That would be the standard of the expedition to verify the
ark of the covenant or the testament of the covenant or Testament of
the Ark. It would verify as a sign of things to come. It could
represent a new future.
All these images are location of anomalies described in the Urantia
Book, I'm sorry to say for some but this opened book is leading me
somewhere and I'm spreading this journey to find out the truth of the
matter. I believe a great expansion can be found here through a
process of approval from Paradise and its all connected to the
beginning of Civilization and the events along the way.
The Book the Sevenfold Instruction I believe also bridges the gaps
back to the New Testament as an aid through the demonstration which
also connects to the Dead Sea scrolls and the last Teacher of
Righteousness a great man, left the final sequel to the journey. In
the Jesus Papers of the Essenes released by the Catholic Church from
there vaults you can see many characteristics of the journey to the
places as seen in those papers. This was recorded by the teacher of
righteousness in the times of Jesus' ministry for our benefit today
and through the eyes of the Essenes and the clues Jesus left behind in
the papers knowing in his foresight that they would be recognized by
the last teacher of righteousness at its right time, in the right
conditions.
I believe all these events and the journey is the result in great
opportunity for man a blessing for some and sorrow for some when faced
with truth in an ultimate sense in a voice of the universe in
discovery and enlightenment, wider and deeper. I believe the Jewish
books contain much truth and should be not be discarded as I have
found much truth in them and I have discovered many things in the
quran and some Hadiths. We all have a similar commonality that brings
the oneness in the discovery enlightenment of the scriptures and the
opened books as a one in a oneness in that they all concur on a great
discovery for mankind.
Well thats what I think
Its simply a road that has demonstrated itself found in all the
scriptures and brings in the all the books in a exploration
verification process and which agrees on all levels regarding the
first and second temples. It is a far cry from the death and
destruction that I feel man is sick off.
This was done for man that will move him on to safer ground through a
commonality of all religions link to the first places the ancient
places that are submerged!
The hope would be that what is inscribed on the stone tablets the
Seven commands.
* And they shall place thee in this
cave, wherein I am making you to dwell this day, until the time when
your expulsion shall take place from the regions of Paradise to that
earth which is outside it. And whosoever shall be left in those days
shall take thy body with him, and [Fol. 7b, col. 2] shall deposit it
on the spot which I shall show him, in the centre
of the earth; for in that place shall redemption be effected
for thee and for all thy children." And God revealed unto
Adam everything which the Son would suffer on behalf of him.
Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:26 am
a mighty group “without
number” The Confirmation
Quote:
ASTRONOMICAL ALLUSIONS IN THE NEW
TESTAMENT
The New Testament is virtually devoid of astronomical allusions. The
"Star of the Magi" can scarcely be regarded as an
objective phenomenon; it was, at least, inconspicuous to ordinary
notice. Kepler, however, advanced, in 1606, the hypothesis
that a remarkable of Jupiter and Saturn, which
occurred in May of the
year 7 B.C., was the celestial sign
followed by the Wise Men.
Revived in 1821 by Dr. Münter, the Lutheran Bishop of Zealand, this
opinion was strongly advocated in 1826 by C.L. Ideler (Handbuch der
Chronologie, II, 399). But the late Dr. Pritchard's investigation
(Smith's Dict. of the Bible, Memoirs Roy. Astr. Society, XXV, 119)
demonstrated its inadequacy to fulfil the requirements of the Gospel
narrative.
And this the date is the year The Urantia Book puts forward which is
the year of his birth. Jesus true birthday was August 21 BC 7BC
And in the following Urantia Fragment you have the same month
confirmed in the Urantia Book and these dates in the Urantia Book have
been verified by JPL.
Here is the Fragment of the confirmation of the Month and year of
Jesus birth in the UB which supports Keplers in his 1606 ideas of the
7BC as year of Jesus birth.
Quote:
These wise men saw no star to
guide them to Bethlehem. The beautiful legend of the star of
Bethlehem originated in this way: Jesus was born
August 21 at noon,
7 B.C. On
May 29, 7 B.C.,
there occurred an extraordinary conjunction of Jupiter and
Saturn in the constellation of Pisces. And
it is a remarkable astronomic fact that similar
conjunctions occurred on September 29 and
December 5 of the same year. Upon the basis of these
extraordinary but wholly natural events the well-meaning zealots of
the succeeding generation constructed the appealing legend of
the star of Bethlehem and the adoring Magi
led thereby to the manger, where they beheld and worshiped
the newborn babe. Oriental and near-Oriental minds delight in fairy
stories, and they are continually spinning such beautiful myths
about the lives of their religious leaders and political heroes. In
the absence of printing, when most human knowledge was passed by
word of mouth from one generation to another, it was very easy for
myths to become traditions and for traditions eventually to become
accepted as facts.
About Kesil and Kimah and a connection to Eden and the end times
From a Jehovah Witness link
Quote:
“There is a people numerous and
mighty; one like it has not been made to exist from the indefinite
past, and after it there will be none again to the years of
generation after generation. Ahead of it a fire has devoured, and
behind it a flame consumes. Like the garden of Eden the land
is ahead of it; but behind it is a desolate wilderness, and
there has also proved to be nothing thereof escaping.”
First, even if the insect army was
intended to actually symbolize the ministry of Jehovah’s Witnesses,
why would God describe them
as being a mighty group “without
number”?
And what would that mighty force be
without number where the land of Eden goes before it?? Like in this
journey to the ancient places. A small force but powerful?
Its this outpost of Sevenfold Seraphic Mission and its servants.
and this part further in the link
Quote:
Joel 1:6-7: "For there
is a nation that has come up into my land, mighty and without
number. Its teeth are the teeth of a lion, and it has the jawbones
of a lion. It has set my vine as an object
of astonishment, and my fig tree as
a stump. It has positively stripped
it bare and thrown it away. The twigs of it have become
white."
Apparently, the Watchtower’s interpreters are perplexed due to the
fact that the invading insects are called Jehovah’s “military
force”; yet paradoxically, the object of the devastation is also
described in the prophecy as God’s own possession. That is
especially evident at Joel 1:13-14,
where God addresses the leading older men and priests who are
ministering at the altar, saying to them: “Gird yourselves, and beat
your breasts, you priests. Howl, you ministers of the altar. Come
in, spend the night in sackcloth, you ministers of my God; for from
the house of your God grain offering and drink offering have been
withheld. Sanctify a time of fasting. Call together a solemn
assembly. Gather together the older men, all the inhabitants of the
land, to the house of Jehovah your God, and cry to Jehovah for aid.”
The piece in Joel 1:6-7: is about the ancient sites of astonishment,
the discovery of the ancient cities like 1stEden and Dalamatia City
and with judgement attached. It all about the discoveries of the
ancient places and the Fathers own stump. But the message and the
testimony has real teeth.
and check this out
“SUN AND MOON THEMSELVES HAVE BECOME DARK”
Quote:
Throughout the prophetic
Scriptures are found numerous apocalyptic symbolisms
denoting terrifying heavenly and earthly phenomenon.
Joel is no exception. In three different places in Joel,
the prophet foretells of awe-inspiring and foreboding
heavenly phenomenon in connection with the day of the
locust attack
.
All about the journey and the 3 places of God with their connecting
symbols the Old for New and possibly the demonstration.
and the reassurance
Quote:
That is how Joel 2:21-27 should be
understood. That span reads:
“Do not be fearful, O ground. Be joyful and rejoice; for
Jehovah will actually do a great thing
in what He does Do not be fearful,.
you beasts of the open field, for the pasture grounds of the
wilderness will certainly grow green. For the tree will actually give its
fruitage. The fig tree and the vine must give their vital
energy. And, you sons of Zion, be
joyful and rejoice in Jehovah your God; for he will be
bound to give you the autumn rain in right measure,
and he will bring down upon you people a downpour,
autumn rain and spring rain, as at
the first.
And the threshing floors must be full of cleansed grain, and
the press vats must overflow with new wine
and oil. And I will make
compensation to you for the years that the locust, the
creeping, unwinged locust, and the cockroach and the caterpillar
have eaten, my great military force that I have sent among you.
And you will certainly eat, eating and becoming satisfied, and you
will be boundto praise the name
of Jehovah your God, who has done with you so wonderfully;
and my people will not be ashamed
to time indefinite. And you people will have to know
that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am Jehovah your God and
there is no other. And my people will not be ashamed to time
indefinite.”
Sevens
Sevens
Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:09 pm
Quote:
1 As the impulse of
anger against evil, so is the impulse of
joy over what is lovely, and brings in of its fruits without
restraint: 2 My joy is the Lord
and my impulse is toward Him: this path of mine is excellent:
3 For I have a helper, the Lord.
4 He hath
caused me to know Himself, without grudging, by His simplicity:
His kindness has humbled His greatness.
5 He became like me, in order that I might receive Him:
He
was reckoned like myself in order that I might put Him on;
7 And I trembled not when I saw Him: because He was gracious to
me: 8 Like my nature He became that I
might learn Him and like my form, that I might not turn
back from Him:
9 The Father of knowledge is the word of knowledge:
10 He who created wisdom is wiser than His works: 11 And He who
created me when yet I was not knew what I should do when I came
into being: 12 Wherefore He pitied me in His abundant grace: and
granted me to ask from Him and to receive from His sacrifice: 13
Because He it is that is
incorrupt,
the fulness of the ages and the of them.14
He hath given Him to be seen of them that are His,
in order that they may recognize Him
that made them: and that
they might not suppose that they came of themselves:
15 For knowledge He hath appointed as its
way,
hath widened it and extended it; and brought to all
perfection; 16 And set over it the
traces of His light, and I walked therein
from the beginning even to the end. 17
For by Him it was wrought, and He was resting in the Son, and for
its salvation He will take hold of everything. 18
And the
Most High shall be known
in His Saints, to announce to those that have
songs of the coming of the Lord:19 That
they may go forth to meet Him,
and may sing to Him with joy and with the harp of many tones:
20 The seers shall come before Him and they shall be seen before
Him, 21 And they shall praise the Lord for His love:
because He is near and beholdeth.
22 And hatred shall be taken from the earth, and along with
jealousy it shall be drowned: 23 For
ignorance hath been destroyed, because the knowledge of the Lord
hath arrived . 24 They who make songs shall
sing the grace of the Lord Most High;
25 And they shall bring their songs, and their heart shall
be like the day: and like the excellent beauty of
the Lord their pleasant song; 26 And there shall neither be
anything that breathes without knowledge nor any that is dumb:
27 For He hath
given
a mouth to His creation, to open
the voice of the mouth towards Him,
to praise Him: 28 Confess ye His power, and show forth His grace.
Hallelujah.
Incredible, a total reflection of the journey in every detail all
about the beginning where the end shall occur. The Odes of Solomon
is incredible.
"The Fullness of the Ages" Like in this journey and "I walked
therein from the beginning even to the end " Just like in the path
to the ancient places. The beginning where the end shall occur.
All signs to be aware of the times as things could change suddenly
as in prophecy!
So you didn't even have a look at
it, just stood at the gates and wondered, hesitated in fear and then
turned away without investigation?
Oh well!
Quote:
Zechariah 7 11
But they refused to hearken,
and pulled away the shoulder, and stopped
their ears, that they should not hear. 12 Yea, they made their
hearts as an adamant stone, lest they should
hear the law, and
the words which the Lord of hosts hath
sent in his spirit by the former prophets: therefore
came a great wrath from the Lord of hosts.
13 Therefore it is come to pass, that as
he cried, and they would not hear; so they cried, and I would not
hear, saith the Lord of hosts:
Zechariah 8 11 But now I will not be unto
the residue of this people as in the former days, saith the
Lord of hosts. 12 For the seed shall be prosperous; the vine shall
give her fruit, and the ground shall give her increase, and the
heavens shall give their dew; and I will
cause the remnant of this people to possess all these things.
13 And it shall come to pass, that
as ye were a curse among the heathen, O house of Judah, and house of
Israel; so will I save you, and ye shall be a blessing: fear not,
but let your hands be strong.
Verse 7:11 seems fulfilled.
By the way when you misspell Urantia purposely, be mindful of who you
disrespect. You dont know that I am wrong! You haven't proved that.
Just by your post you have indicated your parting of the way before the
gates of the city where the tree of life was housed! Those that turn
from the gates dont get to sup of the tree of life.
Something to think about and perhaps review??
Sevens
posted
03-11-2008 12:44 AM
Hi Hendrik and wirelessGuru
How are you all, well I hope.
I must say Hendrik
That was a fascinating link, truly intriguing
The Beginning and End comments is right through all the scripts, it seems
to be a commonality in many scriptures and religious books.
I personally feel that the beginning are the location of the ancient
cities submerged being the beginning for where civilisation evolved and
its where the end will be.
Just in the fragment out of odes of Solomon from the above seems to depict
this.
quote:
15 For knowledge He hath
appointed as its way, hath widened it and extended it; and brought to
all perfection;
16 And set over it the traces of His light, and I walked therein from
the beginning even to the end.
I mean to say that is exactly
what this journey is all about, widening and making knowledge deeper.
Its just amazing and considering your discoveries of Red Sea and the
connection with Moses, the fish and day and night.
I must Graham Hancocks submerged city in Cambay in India is part of this
journey to, it was inhabitant of these places in ancient times that did
business with the dilmuns through shipping and commerce.
I reckon there are big connections there!
And Nostradamus
quote:
Through the power of three
temporal kings,
the sacred seat will be put in another place,
where the substance of the body and the spirit
will be restored and received as the true seat
and here is a fragment of the
Red Sea close to 1syEden which is of Cyprus close to Lebanon and the Red
Sea
quote:
21 word of the Lord into his
mouth, and the Lord for evermore. And he knew that a blessed portion and
a blessing had come to Shem and his sons unto the generations for
ever - the whole land of Eden and the whole land of the Red Sea,
and the whole land of the east and India, and on the Red Sea and the
mountains thereof, and all the land of Bashan, and all the land of
Lebanon and the islands of Kaftur, and all the mountains of Sanir
and 'Amana, and the mountains of Asshur in the north, and all the land
of Elam, Asshur, and Babel, and Susan and Ma'edai, and all the mountains
of Ararat, and all the region beyond the sea, which is beyond the
mountains of Asshur towards the
22 north, a blessed and spacious land, and all that is in it is very
good. And for Ham came forth the second portion, beyond the Gihon
towards the south to the right of the Garden, and it extends
towards the south and it extends to all the mountains of fire, and it
extends towards the west to the sea of 'Atel and it extends towards the
west till it reaches the sea of Ma'uk -that (sea) into which
23 everything which is not destroyed descends. And it goes forth
towards the north to the limits of Gadir, and it goes forth to the coast
of the waters of the sea to the waters of the great sea till it draws
near to the river Gihon, and goes along the river Gihon till it reaches
the right of the Garden
Intriguing and pinpoint 1stEden.
and I found this fragment which also suggests and points to the other
cities in the Persian Gulf. Namely Dalamatia City, Dilmun and Susa and
possibly Dilmun to the East close to the Persian Gulf Heads.
quote:
Since later Jewish tradition
placed Enoch in the mountainous Garden
of Eden which had survived the Flood, it's possible that the headlands
of the Oman Peninsula at Mt. Asabon were close enough to the river
mouths
to both be the site of the Garden and to survive the Flood! So the
Garden's
moving up into the mountains from the plain/edinu may have been a
reflection
of the earlier retreat to higher ground - from the Bieban Shelf back
into
the highlands of Sabon? Perhaps the waters pouring through the Straits
seemed
to be emerging from the nearby fountain/mountain of Eden. (Ditto for a
invaded the Red Sea fault
valley, probably also originally a river, with a later Paradise
Island
half-way up the coast
location in the mountains of Aden when the Okean -- Dahlak, off of
Adulis, a good parallel with Bahrain.
One had a serpent cult, the other a serpent king!)
As for the tall trees of Eden-- Dilmun and Magan were famous for
certain
desired hardwoods, and the Gilgamesh-Huwawa stories for a long period
suggested to commentators a conflict in a Pine Forest in Elam, rather
than in the Cedar Forest in Lebanon as it is now sometimes
taken to mean. Note that a so-called "Negrito" race, the Shihuh
of Khasab, survive right up into modern times at the tip of the
Musandan peninsula. Huwawa/Humbaba guardian of the Cedar Forest
for Enlil, with his exaggerated Africoid features and complex
facial scarifications, may have symbolized the former authochthonous
"Fish-Eater"/Icthyophagoi race, those who avoided mixing with whomever
the "Shatt valley folk" encountered in their new homelands to the
north and west. (I'm aware that the latest opinion is that the
facial lines represent his face as intestines, as in extispicy! This
seems not to always be the case, if for no other reason than that
almost any pronounced Africoid-featured face is called a Humbaba
figure!)
At the Straits of Hormuz the
bathymetric profile indicates a division into two main channels which
continue across the Bieban Shelf before dropping to a depth of c 400 m in
the Gulf of Oman; the deeper parts of these channels may be due to delta
deposits at the edge of the deep ocean collapsing in a succession of big
underwater landslides, causing underwater erosion by the resulting
turbidity currents.
Some where on this spit on the
Berbian Shelf could be the location of Dilmun to the East near the Heads
posted
03-11-2008 02:52 AM
Well I had an interesting experience
yesterday.
I was at a friends place, I was frustrated about something and going on when
suddenly a huge gust of wind went over the house and a lifting effect on the
house. As it happened the 2 friends looked at me as if my energy was
responsible as if the Gods responded and suggested I settle down.
It could be a Seraphic response. It was quite amazing . There was no wind
before or after the event.
I responded in the other post as a proposal to you and your church.
By going out there to proposed city that is described in the Urantia Book
and verifying it. It would prove the Urantia Book as reliable source.
The proof would be in the discovery.
If I am proved wrong then I would have to review myself not a problem.
However, I would have to be proven wrong in my hypothesis regarding the
locations.
Even if I was wrong I dont think the Father would condemn me because I was
sincere, truthful, I shared everything of my discoveries with my friends
no matter whether they liked me or not. I was honest in my feelings and
really desired to do the will of the Father and wanted to do a good job.
I trusted his guidance within me as I went through the books in
focalization to 1stEden.
Why would the Father condemn me even if was wrong.
Quote
In the second,
you seem to hold nothing but disdain in your heart for the Bible, the
one true book of the Almighty.
On the contrary, I love the Bible, I'm just so surprised what people say
about it. But for me I use more Bible scripture in my posts than anyone
else including yourself. Allot of them from the Bible but also from the
other books as they form a oneness in the focalisation to the ancient
cities.
I love the Bible more anything because I understand it very well and can
see the oneness in the words.
And I look wider and deeper.
Like in this journey, its all here.
Quote
13 Because He it is that is incorrupt, the
fulness of the ages and the of them.
14 He hath given Him to be seen of them that
are His, in order that they may
recognize Him that made them:
and this about the method and delivery and how it happens.
Quote
15 For knowledge He hath appointed as its
way, hath widened it and extended it;
and brought to all perfection;
16 And set over it the traces of His light,
and I walked therein from the beginning even
to the end.
17 For by Him it was wrought, and He was resting in the Son, and
for its salvation He will take hold of
everything.
I mean to say the above is a complete reflection of this journey.
Oh come on Calvin, I'm doing the block upon block
and piece upon piece and precept upon precepts process in the journey as
explained Isaiah.
There is no way I am going against the Fathers will. There is no chance as I
keep on finding things all the time
Just in the past couple of weeks major breakthroughs have been made confirming
the journey.
Its been really good and positive.
At the end of the day it comes down whose interpretation is right.
By the way do you know the logistics and how the Seventh mystery of the churches
manifest? and do you know what the Seventh Mystery is??
Could you show me with your own thoughts!
I recently found some things in the watchtower of long ago which I feel points
to this journey and has perplexed there scholars for years.
Do you want to see it?
Anyway Calvin I feel quietly confident of what is going on and i think this
research is on track and in synchronization with Jesus and Paradise.
But you will have to prove me wrong by us going out to Submerged Dalamatia City
in the Verification.
I think its in the best interest of Church and state to explore this as much may
depend on it either way.
I need about 10 million dollars for an expedition and production that would be
threefold and perhaps some studio may want to invest in a full feature for the
Box Office.
"The Great Test of Religion" This is where we test things with all on
the table.
The World is the witness and all people can judge for themselves. Movie would
be the about the everything that occurs and people can vote online.
As we go through the place in reality connected to the a site.
The Full feature movie would threefold like in the research, How it came about,
The books and what was found, The Journey.. Then we go back in time to that
period and go through the whole history of Dalamatia City and the Seven commands
using CGI and actors. Then we go to the expedition.
It could be on Cable or TV worldwide and free to air later. The movie could be
all about all those things happening in real time.
Thats my proposal and you can be in the Skeptics side on the Side of traditional
religion, thats OK. Everything has to be tested! and people such as yourself
have to be present to witness the event and to make commentary.
So we need at least 10 million dollars for a boat that is enabled to do core
samples, R.O.V, rebreather diving equipment and robotic subs with camera and
production for the virtual TV event. The we need more money from a TV operator
and a Movie Studio of the movie of the whole journey and Event of Verification.
Now I figure this is something that you could do to get the church to fund this
and see what we can find in the truth of the matter. The real truth of
everything and even if you disagree you could help to find the funds to prove
yourself. It can also prove my theory to. It could go either way.
I also want to get Religious Atheists on board to. There views are also
important and they could be proved wrong.
Anyway that is my proposal to you and any one else who would like to test this.
See this would test the real fiber of the Church and its people and leaders.
Lets see how the church responds! This is the Test of all and there attitude!
Whether they are right or wrong, the attitude lesson.
It could be a 2 week expedition involving the whole world with virtual online
access and the moves and what is found in real time a real expedition involving
the world with live feeds.
An every aspect presented as we go for different targets with the respective
information in the scriptures.
I could put everything on the table, all the scriptures and books and
extrapolate on the way through the expedition.
For example in the Core sample:
We know that Dalamatia City was above water, then it submerged where a tidal
wave destroyed the city, then over time it reemerged much probably under mud and
sand, then it submerged again due to rising sea levels at some other distant
time forward.
The core sample should reflect this trend and therefore we can confirm the dates
in the UB and the layers should correspond to that. We could work out the dates
accurately.
Now all this could be presented as we go through the motions step by step.
With the R.O.V. we can go to the city with cameras and verify the walls and the
temple and perhaps some stone block with possible writing on them. We could go
step by step through books and what they say and verify then and there. All
this in virtual time so the whole world witnesses this.
We could get a sub down there where we could witness all with commentary and
witness the walls and temples.
The movie would be an overview of all these events but in a deeper way that is
intimate to the journey and goes back in time and to this time of the
expedition.
Anyway that would be my idea of the greatest test for mankind and the test of
attitude!
With all layout before him.
I am 100% confident this would be the Jesus way in the End times...Revealing,
Enlightenment and truth for all mankind before any judgment of the Father!
Violence is not the way and that will be demonstrated!
And yet it could be connected to Rapture as Jesus may visit Iran through this
proposal. It might seem outlandish but Jesus could very well be present on this
boat off the coast of Iran. And that would fulfill what I read in another
scripture from another book.
It could be all possible that Jesus is there at the time of verification and may
guide the explorers personally through his spirit and himself there in a oneness
for the event.
This could mean big change for all people for the world!
Remembering that Jesus was one of us and he is sentimental and curious like us
and an explorer and discoverer himself who spent two weeks around the ruins of
2nd Susa and Ur contemplating the future and the ruins and the history of them.
Jesus is interested in archeology is leading us on the path to his places that
where made by his sons.
He was a human and I believe if the interpretations are right this could be the
greatest thing and the action he would love to be involved in. No doubt about
that, dont you worry about that! because he is our friend and creator/Father and
loves to be with his friends in the great quest of his universe! For sure!!
Alright I say yea!
Honestly, this could be the sign of rapture and if we go there and verify
anything is possible there after and even during at the moment of discovery.
You know the time maybe revealed at the point of discovery!
You know Calvin, this is possible, quite possible this could be the first
horseman.
The best part everyone can contribute in the foreseen and be part of a Paradise
Project to the beginning where the end shall take place, the Beginning and the
End.
When there exists this living connection between divinity and humanity, if
humanity should thoughtlessly and ignorantly pray for selfish ease and
vainglorious accomplishments, there could be only one divine answer: more
and increased bearing of the fruits of the spirit on the stems of the living
branches.
When the branch of the vine is alive, there
can be only one answer to all its petitions:
increased grape bearing. In fact, the branch exists only for, and can do
nothing except, fruit bearing, yielding grapes.
So does the true believer exist only for the purpose of bearing the fruits
of the spirit:to love man as he himself
has been loved by God--that we should love one another, even as Jesus has
loved us.
And when the Father's hand of discipline is laid
upon the vine, it is done in love, in
order that the branches may bear much fruit. And a wise husbandman
cuts away only the dead and fruitless branches.
Jesus had great difficulty in leading even his apostles to recognize that
prayer is a function of spirit-born believers in the spirit-dominated
kingdom.
"Many of those who will assail you are ignorant of the light of heaven, but
this is not true of some who now persecute us. If
we had not taught them the truth, they might do many strange things without
falling under condemnation, but now, since
they have known the light and presumed to reject it, they have no excuse fortheir
attitude. He who hates me hates my Father. It cannot be otherwise;
the light which would save you if accepted can only condemn you if it is
knowingly rejected. And what have I done to these men that they should hate
me with such a terrible hatred? Nothing, save to
offer them fellowship on earth and salvation in heaven. But have you
not read in the Scripture the saying: `And they
hated me without a cause'?
He
would not so much as cast reflections of insincerity
Page 2000 upon his would-be murderers when they asked if he were
"king of the Jews." With but little
qualifying explanation he accepted the designation, knowing that,
while they had chosen to reject him, he would be
the last to afford them real national leadership, even in a spiritual sense.
line 58: "But the times of the reappearing of
the Son of Man are known only in the councils of Paradise; not even the
angels of heaven know when this will occur. However, you should
understand that, when this gospel of the kingdom shall have been proclaimed
to all the world for the salvation of all peoples, and when
the fullness of the age has come to pass,the Father will send you another dispensational bestowal,
or else [color=red]the Son of Man will
return to adjudge the age.[/color]
and
and line 52: In further answer to Peter's question, Jesus said: "Why do you
still look for the Son of Man to sit upon the throne of David and expect
that the material dreams of the Jews will be fulfilled? Have I not told you
all these years that my kingdom is not of this world? The things
which you now look down upon are coming to an end,
but this will be a new beginning out of
which the gospel of the kingdom will go to all the world and this
salvation will spread to all peoples. And when the kingdom shall
have come to its full fruition be assured that the Father
in heaven will not fail to visit you with an enlarged revelation of truth
and an enhanced demonstration of righteousness, even as he
has already bestowed upon this world him who became the prince of darkness,
and then Adam, who was followed by Melchizedek, and in these days, the Son
of Man. And so will my Father continue to manifest his mercy and show forth
his love, even to this dark and evil world. So also will I, after my Father
has invested me with all power and authority, continue to
follow your fortunes and to guide in the affairs of the kingdom by the
presence of my spirit, who shall shortly be poured out upon all flesh. Even
though I shall thus be present with you in spirit, I also promise that
I will sometime return to this world, where I have lived
this life in the flesh and achieved the experience of
simultaneously revealing God to man
and leading man to God.
Very soon must I leave you and take up the work the Father has intrusted to
my hands, but be of good courage, for I
will sometime return In the meantime, my Spirit of the Truth of a
universe shall comfort and guide you..
and this seems to be the experience of the journey to the first places and
connected are with the fullness of the age/s from the Odes of Solomon.
He was reckoned like myself in order that I might put Him on;
7 And I trembled not when I saw Him:
because He was gracious to me: 8 Like my nature He became that I might learn
Him and like my form, that I might not turn back from Him:
9 The Father of knowledge is the word of
knowledge: 10 He who created wisdom is wiser than His works: 11 And
He who created me when yet I was not knew what I should do when I came into
being: 12 Wherefore He pitied me in His abundant grace: and granted me to
ask from Him and to receive from His sacrifice: 13 Because He it is that is
incorrupt, the fulness of the ages and
the of them.14 He hath given Him to be
seen of them that are His, in order that they may recognize Him that made
them: and that they might not suppose that they came of themselves: 15
For knowledge He hath appointed as its way, hath
widened it and extended it; and brought to
all perfection; 16 And set over it the
traces of His light, and I walked therein
from the beginning even to the end.
Its seems very characteristics of the journey these fragment made me think
"14 He hath
given Him to be
seen of them that are His, in order that
they may recognize Himthat made them:
and that they might not suppose
that they came of themselves:"
I tell you this about the journey, I'm so sure of it! The beginning is the end
and seems to be at the fullness of the age.
Even the Urantia Book in the above fragments seems to hint subtly to the end
where a new beginning will spring from. The beginning is where the end is and
out of that will come new real truth freedom.
Quote:
Like this part "when this gospel of
the kingdom shall have been proclaimedto all the world for the salvation of all
peoples, and when the fullness of the age has come
to pass,the Father will send you another
dispensational bestowal, or
else the Son of Man will return to adjudge
the age."
What is being described in Solomon is virtually in compliment to the fullness
of the age that the ancient places maybe the sign of? There seems to be
definite time period and I bet you it has all to do with the ancient places.
Judgment seems to be on the cards even found in the Urantia Book. It would be
related to discovery and enlightenment.
And yes
Quote:
I also promise that I will sometime
return to this world, where I have lived this life in the flesh and achieved
the experience of simultaneously revealing God to
manand leading man to God.
Jesus will return again and I believe he would be present in this journey
because it is a journey that leads man to God through discovery. There would
be no reason why Jesus would not be present.
I really enjoyed reading your post, I'm really disappointed in the Iranian
Government that they are out to destroy the heritage of the ages for Iran
under the guise of development. There greatest asset is there heritage
which goes back so far its incredible! The destruction of the heritage of
the ages in Iran could be the work of rebel infiltration.
I read in a scripture that Jesus will visit
Persia and the heritages of the Ages or the first ancient city, Dalamatia
City, the triangle city. It could be that Jesus presence may be on the boat
if we actually get out there or a rapture might be incurred and part of the
process of that could involve the correction of the government of Iran as in
a wake up call for them pointing to the places.
Speculation but I feel something is brewing and its has all to do with the
ancient places and possible rapture and a visit of Jesus as part of the
process.
all the best and thanks for your article posted.
Sevens
posted
03-15-2008 03:50 PM
I tend to agree with what you said
quote:
"I would tend to think that some "hauntings"
may be due to the power of the mind. But most of our experiences occur when we
are not especially stressed. Quite often they occur when we are quietly doing
some simple activity."
I remember I was at church many years ago and I
saw a dart fly through the room that ended up entering a person. Ive seen like a
dart fly out of the computer and hit my head.
Wierd stuff.
Ive been in a complete flashout experience whilst sitting in a car with a
friend, there was a fellow witness to that experience.
When all these things happened I was very relaxed and occurred with people
present.
I remember I was talking to this girl at the beach about the UB and our
guardians and midwayers that help people in their purpose of the Father. Walking
to her car she saw a man lying on the bonnet, she looked refocusing, turned away
for a split second looked again and the young looking guy was gone no where to
be seen.
Stuff like that. Hard to explain whats happening on all counts even though I
speculate but at the end of the day I dont worry about it and still get a good
night sleep.
ahahahahahaha
Sevens
posted
03-15-2008 10:53 PM
As you all know that the symbolism in the journey
is indicated by two symbols.
The first Symbol the Triangle and the 3 coplanar circles inside the triangle.
This symbol connects Dalamatia City to the Adamson civilisation and then Eden.
The prime shape in this symbol is the 3 coplanar circles.
The Second symbol related to the journey to the ancient places is the Symbol of
the fallen Sons, the Nodites and then eventually the Andites (Adamics &
Nodites)which is the triangle and single circle inside. This symbol connects the
City of Dilmun to the North submerged, Babel in Dilmun and the eventually to the
Great Pyramid as in the discovery of the circle within the triangle symbol on
the shaft of the great city.
There is a symbolic connection from Dilmun of the North to the Andites on to the
great Pyramid. From there the trail leads to the Freemasons in the part of there
circle and triangle form that they do behold.
Another place where this symbol perpetuates is the tomb of Jesus' family. On top
of the entry into the tomb is the Triangle and circle symbol which again is
another Andite symbol. Close by to the tomb of Jesus is the tomb of a few
disciples and they have the same chevron inscribed on there bone boxes.
Another feature in Jesus' family tomb is the symbolism of the multiple Vees,
like triangles without the bottom. This symbol connects directly to the Vees of
Dalamatia city but not only that the Vees can be seen on Mars along with the
face of Mars where there lays a circle enclosed in a triangle shape.
All the same symbols that connect to all things of truth and key places being
the cities of this journey.
I was contemplating the Triangle and circle symbol today.
Now if you draw a triangle equal sides then invert each side by 60 degrees you
get a circle shape within the triangle.
6 ends of a side of a triangle bend inwardly, times 6 ends = 360 degrees.
Alot of sixes there
All 6 ends of the triangle bent 60 degrees inwardly = 360 degrees...THE COMPASS!
All directions.
mmm makes you wonder.
Now what springs to mind is the mark of the beast through the numbers I see in
the above symbol
Here is something I found in the Urantia Book.
quote:
10. JERUSEM CITIZENSHIP
The reception of a new class of mansion world graduates is the signal for all
Jerusem to assemble as a committee of welcome. Even the spornagia enjoy the
arrival of these triumphant ascenders of evolutionary origin, those who
have run the planetary race and finished the mansion world progression. Only
the physical controllers and Morontia Power Supervisors are absent from these
occasions of rejoicing.
John the Revelator saw a vision of the arrival of a class of advancing
mortals from the seventh mansion world to their first heaven, the glories of
Jerusem. He recorded: "And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with
fire; and those who had gained the victory over the beast that was originally
in them and over the image that persisted through the mansion worlds and
finally over the last mark and trace, standing on the sea of glass, having the
harps of God, and singing the song of deliverance from mortal fear and death."
(Perfected space communication is to be had on all these worlds; and your
anywhere reception of such communications is made possible by carrying the
"harp of God," a morontia contrivance compensating for the inability to
directly adjust the immature morontia sensory mechanism to the reception of
space communications.)
Paul also had a view of the ascendant-citizen corps of perfecting mortals on
Jerusem, for he wrote: "But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of
the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of
angels, to the grand assembly of Michael, and to the spirits of just men being
made perfect."
and this invaluable fragment about the Mark of
the beast
quote:
9. THE SEVENTH MANSION WORLD
The experience on this sphere is the crowning achievement of the immediate
postmortal career. During your sojourn here you will receive the instruction
of many teachers, all of whom will co-operate in the task of preparing you for
residence on Jerusem. Any discernible differences between those mortals
hailing from the isolated and retarded worlds and those survivors from the
more advanced and enlightened spheres are virtually obliterated during the
sojourn on the seventh mansion world. Here you will be purged of all the
remnants of unfortunate heredity, unwholesome environment, and unspiritual
planetary tendencies. The last remnants of the "mark of the beast" are here
eradicated.
While sojourning on mansonia number seven, permission is granted to visit
transition world number seven, the world of the Universal Father. Here you
begin a new and more spiritual worship of the unseen Father, a habit you will
increasingly pursue all the way up through your long ascending career. You
find the Father's temple on this world of transitional culture, but you do not
see the Father.
Now begins the formation of classes for graduation to Jerusem. You have gone
from world to world as individuals, but now you prepare to depart for
Page 539 Jerusem in groups, although, within certain limits, an ascender may
elect to tarry on the seventh mansion world for the purpose of enabling a
tardy member of his earthly or mansonia working group to catch up with him.
It appears that the Fathers number is Seven and
seems to be confirmed by the number of his planet.
" While sojourning on mansonia number seven, permission is granted to
visit transition world number seven, the world of the Universal
Father."
and this part
quote:
Before the dawn of early frugality and
primitive industry the lot of the average tribe was one of destitution and
real suffering. Early man had to compete with the whole animal world for his
food. Competition-gravity ever pulls man down toward the beast level;
poverty is his natural and tyrannical estate.Wealth is not a
natural gift; it results from labor, knowledge, and organization.
another fragment
quote:
Labor, the efforts of design, distinguishes man
from the beast, whose exertions are largely instinctive. The necessity for
labor is man's paramount blessing. The Prince's staff all worked; they did
much to ennoble physical labor on Urantia. Adam was a gardener; the God of
the Hebrews labored--he was the creator and upholder of all things. The
Hebrews were the first tribe to put a supreme premium on industry; they were
the first people to decree that "he who does not work shall not eat." But
many of the religions of the world reverted to the early ideal of idleness.
Jupiter was a reveler, and Buddha became a reflective devotee of leisure.
This explains why the Jews are successful in
business today because its part of their religion to do these things "he who
does not work shall not eat." and I say good for them. All man can learn
from them and their religion as it does embrace creating civilisation. It should
anyway and you can see that in their country. Its such a pity that wars of
hatred surrounds them because of deliberate misinterpretations in religion that
purposely drive the division.
It has to stop and I believe ancient places is the right conditions for that on
the level of pure religion. In through the correction of it in the verification.
The verification would prove that is not a fake or a fraud but an honest
journey. If a verification was not made even in lieu of the information released
on the run was still honest and true as you can see my thoughts. Although all
possibilities exist I am not wavered nor do I think I will be disappointed.
I think all objectives will be achieved
Now here another fragment from the Urantia Book concerning what John saw
concerning the beasts
quote:
The seven adjutant mind-spirits are the
creation of the Divine Minister of a local universe. These mind-spirits are
similar in character but diverse in power, and all partake alike of the nature
of the Universe Spirit, although they are hardly regarded as personalities
apart from their Mother Creator. The seven adjutants have been given the
following names: the spirit of wisdom, the spirit of worship, the spirit of
counsel, the spirit of knowledge, the spirit of courage, the spirit of
understanding, the spirit of intuition--of quick perception.
These are the "seven spirits of God," "like lamps burning before the
throne," which the prophet saw in the symbols of vision. But he did not
see the seats of the four and twenty sentinels about these seven adjutant
mind-spirits.
This record represents the confusion of two presentations,
one pertaining to the universe headquarters
and the other to the system capital.
The seats of the four and twenty elders are on Jerusem, the headquarters of
your local system of inhabited worlds.
But it was of Salvington that John wrote: "And out of the throne proceeded
lightnings and thunderings and voices"--the universe broadcasts to the local
systems. He also envisaged the directional control creatures of the local
universe, the living compasses of the headquarters world. This directional
control in Nebadon is maintained by the four control creatures of
Salvington, who operate over the universe currents and are ably assisted
by the first functioning mind-spirit, the adjutant of intuition, the spirit of
"quick understanding."But the description of these four
creatures--called beasts--has been sadly marred; they are of unparalleled
beauty and exquisite form.
The four points of the compass are universal and inherent in the life of
Nebadon. All living creatures possess bodily units which are sensitive and
responsive to these directional currents. These creature creations are
duplicated on down through the universe to the individual planets and, in
conjunction with the magnetic forces of the worlds, so activate the hosts
of microscopic bodies (Page 379) in the animal organism that these direction
cells ever point north and south. Thus is the sense of orientation forever
fixed in the living beings of the universe. This sense is not wholly
wanting as a conscious possession by mankind. These bodies were first
observed on Urantia about the time of this narration.
and this piece about the midwayers the help they
provide to individual missions concerning the Kingdom of Heaven
quote:
Midwayers vary greatly in their abilities to
make contact with the seraphim above and with their human cousins below. It is
exceedingly difficult, for instance, for the primary midwayers to make direct
contact with material agencies. They are considerably nearer the angelic type
of being and are therefore usually assigned to working with, and ministering
to, the spiritual forces resident on the planet. They act as companions
and guides for celestial visitors and student sojourners, whereas the
secondary creatures are almost exclusively attached to the ministry of the
material beings of the realm.
The 1,111 loyal secondary midwayers are engaged in important missions on
earth. As compared with their primary associates, they are decidedly
material . They exist just outside the range of mortal vision and possess sufficient
latitude of adaptation to make, at will, physical contact with what humans
call "material things." These unique creatures have certain definite
powers over the things of time and space, not excepting the beasts of the
realm.
Many of the more literal phenomena ascribed to angels have been performed by
the secondary midway creatures. When the early teachers of the gospel of Jesus
were thrown into prison by the ignorant religious leaders of that day, an
actual "angel of the Lord" "by night opened the prison doors and brought them
forth." But in the case of Peter's deliverance after the killing of James by
Herod's order, it was a secondary midwayer who performed the work ascribed to
an angel.
Their chief work today is that of unperceived personal-liaison associates
of those men and women who constitute the planetary reserve corps of destiny.
It was the work of this secondary group, ably seconded by certain of the
primary corps, that brought about the co-ordination of personalities and
circumstances on Urantia which finally induced the planetary celestial
supervisors to initiate those petitions that resulted in the granting
of the mandates making possible the series of revelations of which this
presentation is a part. But it should be made clear that the midway
creatures are not involved in the sordid performances taking place under the
general designation of "spiritualism." The midwayers at present on
Urantia, all of whom are of honorable standing, are not connected with the
phenomena of so-called "mediumship" ; and they do not, ordinarily,
permit humans to witness their sometimes necessary physical activities or
other contacts with the material world, as they are perceived by human
senses.
I thought that was an interesting journey and
much to consider about the beast and what it represents in the Kingdom of Heaven
and how they were interpreted. Perhaps there is some misinterpretation going on
that mars creatures of beauty.
One way to find out is through the verification of the city and its journey.
Sevens
Hey!
2 Sevens inverted and joined make an triangle and then you can make a circle.
ahahahaha Perfection interconnection. I thought that was cool!
posted
03-16-2008 12:28 AM
Sun Mar 16, 2008 6:37 am
Quote:
ODE 17. Ode of Solomon
A peculiar change of personality,' scarcely realized until the return from
it in the last verse.
1 I was crowned by my God: my crown is
living: 2 And I was justified in my Lord: my incorruptible
salvation is He. 3 I was loosed from vanity, and I was not condemned: 4 The
choking bonds were cut off by her hands: I received the face and
the fashion of a new person: and I walked in it and was saved; 5
And the thought of truth led me on. And I walked
after it and did not wander: 6 And all.
that have seen me were amazed: and I was
regarded by them as a strange person:
7 And He who knew and brought me up is
the Most High in all His perfection. And He glorified me by His kindness,
and raised my thoughts to the height of His truth.
8 And from thence He gave me the way of
His precepts and I opened the doors that
were closed,. 9 And brake in pieces the bars of iron: but my iron melted
and dissolved before me; 10
Nothing appeared closed to me: because I was the door of everything.
11 And I went over all my bond men to loose them; that I might
not leave any man bound or binding: 12 And I imparted my knowledge without
grudging: and my prayer was in my love:
13 And I sowed my fruits in hearts, and
transformed them into myself: and they
received my blessing and lived; [b]14 And
they were gathered to me and were saved;
because they were to me as my own members and I was their head.
Glory to thee our head the Lord Messiah. Hallelujah. [/b]
All about the journey to the ancient places.
"Glory to thee our head the Lord Messiah. Hallelujah."
Sevens
posted
03-16-2008 02:31 AM
quote:
ODE 29.
Again reminiscent of the Psalms of David. (No, its about this journey)
1 The Lord is my hope: in Him I shall not be confounded. 2 For according to
His praise He made me, and according to His goodness even so He gave unto me:
3 And according to His mercies He exalted me: and according to His
excellent beauty He set me on high:4 And brought me up out of the depths of
Sheol: and from the mouth of death He drew me: 5 And thou didst lay my enemies
low and He justified me by His grace. 6 For I believed in the Lord's Messiah:
and it appeared to me that He is the Lord; 7 And He showed him His sign: and
He led, me by His light, and gave me the rod of His power 8 That I might
subdue the imaginations of the peoples; and the power of the men of might to
bring them low: 9 To make war by His word,and to take victory by His power.
10 And the Lord overthrew my enemy by His word: and he became like the
stubble which the wind carries away; 11 And I gave praise to the Most High
because He exalted me His servant and the son of His handmaid. Hallelujah.
This stimulated me "6 For I
believed in the Lord's Messiah: and it appeared to me that He is the
Lord; 7 And He showed him His sign: and He led, me by His light ,
and gave me the rod of His power"
Intriguing
Sevens
posted
03-16-2008 02:59 PM
ahahahahahahahahah
1stEden is just sitting awaiting another expedition and I'm waiting for rapture.
Hey you want to go to Cyprus to have a look at the base and on top of the
Acropolis Hill to confirm the rings.
In the meantime get prepared because we are going on a trip
ahahahahahahahahahqhqhqh!
III have a look in the Atlantis rising dungeon and see if I can find that
thread.
Hey Mike1234 How the great Dr Nikas going ahahahahah I had a look at his new
site ahh looks cool. Hey, I notice you got some competition with Sicily, another
Atlantis ahahahah
Yep there are about 6 Atlantis' in the Med but only one 1stEden ahahahahaha last
laugh!
Sevens
posted
03-16-2008 03:25 PM
Hi I'm in the dungeon of Atlantis Rising forums
and found this old thread I thought I would resurrect.
Since the last post of Cat, many more underwater sites have been found. The main
city is Dalamatia City, the submerged triangle city of the Persian Gulf.
This city has also the 3 co planar circles and is related to 1stEden or the real
Atlantis of the Med by way of the 3 coplanar circles that lay on the top and
base of the Acropolis in 1stEden of Cyprus.
These 3 co planar circles also connect to a triangle shaped highland valley of
Van that also bears to the 3 coplanar circles. Really speaking this is the path
of the tree of life in 3 different places in our ancient past which is far
beyond the Sumerian's in the timeline.
The purpose in this new outlook is to connect the 3 coplanar symbols with 3
locations that have commonality through the symbol.
Even the discovery of all the remaining treasures at this stage proves the
Urantia Book as an authentic document and does prove the fact of God.
The direction now would be to go out and verify and confirm the NASA worldwind
Images of the cities, symbols and truth that become one That is the
presentation. "Where truth and symbol become one" .
I want to state that Robert Sarmast did confirm the stone wall as mentioned on
the Urantia Book and did prove the Urantia book in its information.
I also want to say that what I have found in all the books of religion pointing
to the beginning, ie: the ancient places, the attitude in this journey to the
cities may incur penalty which does involve higher universal forces. This
journey could be what was foreseen. Just be aware everyone that all I'm saying!
We are much further down the track and have discovered much more in the books
and in the images. This is way beyond man in his limited comprehension and this
adventure to the cities may come as a real physical shock for most and mean a
time of review especially in the attitude!
Sevens
Sevens
posted
03-16-2008 03:34 PM
About the Hoax articles.
yeah yeah yeah!! Carp Crap Crap in 2004. This is 2008! in all there skeptic,
typical man crappy attitude! Get with it. The journey has come along way.
Those guys haven't proved a thing or never did anything worthwhile to push truth
further in there lives and that include Cat and that other Pieser fan.
ahahahahahahahahahah.
Pieser what a laugh that guy is. All there words will end up in chaff, all of
them. That is foreseen undoubtedly!
The world of the non believers and skeptics are on notice and will be over.
what a laugh! in all there so called intelligence! I can beat there words hands
down with what I have! Which is the Keys of Heaven of the Beginning and the End.
The activator!
ahahahahahaha I'm having the last laugh all the way! and nobody can stop it it.
Because it was freely given, the journey is out there! They cant beat it
especially cat ahahahahahahahahahah!
All these lifeless people just the
walking dead in my view, living Zombies, no life in them or hope or faith! Just
living walking carcasses!
Sevens
posted
03-16-2008 03:46 PM
Hey Georgeos Díaz-Montexano
quote:
To the Moderators Smiley and Brig:
I do not believe that he is just or right that this Topic is occupying put
fixed in top of which they are more active and more useful for the Scientific
Atlantology.
What have you come up with Buddy.
You got nothing at all, don't compare and not even close.
Oh tututut! about your fixed position crap! when you haven't even got one scrap
of evidence.
You're not even in the race and defeated!
Sevens
Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:19 pm
quote:
It appears that the Fathers number is Seven
and seems to be confirmed by the number of his planet.
" While sojourning on mansonia number seven, permission is granted to visit
transition world number seven, the world of the Universal Father."
It could be all possible that many of the
Sevenfold activities on this planet in conjunction with the Sevenfold scheme,
the Sevenfold Seraphic corps mission on Earth, like this journey to the
beginning places are being part coordinated from Mansonia World Seven? The
Seven planet is the planet of the Universal Father.
Paradise does have a representative Architectural planet over here in our
sector and is very close to us. Closer than you think. The Sevenfold Mission
Seraphim's is of direct linage to the Father and the Ancient of Days. The
Sevenfold Scheme is of the Ancient of Days and therefore this mission is of
personal interest and direction of the Father through his agencies and
representatives close to us. The Sevenfold Corps on this planet would be
directly coordinated and related to the Seraphic Sevenfold Corps on the
Mansonia planets especially world number seven.
Also this planet is a domain of the ArchAngels who coordinate directly with
Paradise and the Ancient of Days and which means Jesus to.
This means that Gabriel is very close to us as well and Jesus.
In actual fact the whole Paradise administration and its centers are virtually
on top of us. The whole universal family are here from top to bottom.
Even this realisation of World Number seven stimulates those who inhabit it,
right now in this very instant. I think its a very holy planet that goes
right to the top and is a station of the Father. Just this realisation brings
us closer, very close! as it enters the Father directly from His Seventh
planet. Related to the Seventh mystery?? eh! eh!
Sevens
posted
03-16-2008 06:04 PM
In the following is the aspects of the
Mark of the Beast
It does apply to an individual but its a description of Attitude! purely
quote:
Here you will be purged of all
the remnants of unfortunate heredity, unwholesome environment, and unspiritual
planetary tendencies. The last remnants of the "mark of the beast" are here
eradicated.
The Beast as seen from John in the UB
are the four personalities/Beasts that look after directional control of the
this universe. Apparently these beasts are nice and very beautiful.
Do these aspects of the beast apply to you in the attitude!
"the remnants of unfortunate heredity" This applies directly to the Nodite Gene,
the Gene of the fallen sons that infected the Gene of Man and that is seen
through the Attitude of belligerence, sin and death and destruction using
religion purposely and in error and does manifest in many other ways.
Personally, I'm starting to think there is no anti Christ as in an individual or
one person. I think the interpretation of the Anti Christ is all related to
attitude. An attitude that billions of people have aspects of the mark of the
beast through the genes and this relates to unspiritual tendencies.
What a a baby, grow up Georgeous Truth is more important than you're terrible
non producing EGO!
Hey! How come he gets this fixed Atlantis position
Where there is no evidence just a bloody theory that is sunk and never was.
ahahahahahahahahahahah!
sevens
posted
03-16-2008 06:27 PM
And what about CAT, the deliverer of nothing just
crappy posts
and you know Benny Pieser indicated a year after the discovery a change of
attitude in an interview and it seemed he changed his mind and left the door
open. ahahaha I laugh at you CAT!
Cat who is all talk but doesn't even show a thing.
Because he cant he is also defeated where his words are like stubble, chaff in
the wind.
ahahahahahahahahahah!
I'm just having the greatest laugh as I have the
last laugh!!! because I have the keys the activator. ahahahahahahahahahahahah
Robert Sarmast made a great discovery in
discovering 1Eden physically ...Atlantis of the Med, this was the greatest
discovery and the wall found verified and written about in the UB. 1stEden is
connected to Dalamatia City through the 3 co planar circles. All the locations
connect. Everything else is just chaff and will become stubble after the
harvest.
1stEden or Atlantis of the Med is stronger than it has ever been and is about to
wake everyone up and will motivate everyone as they come out of their stupor and
shock and Robert Sarmast is very much part of this as being the holder of the
Crown of 1stEden and I hold the crown of Dalamatia City, the first and second
temples of the Father. These Crowns are living crowns that go to eternity! And
believe it or not Robert Sarmast challenged 5 of us including himself to find
the Adamson's civilisation using the UB. After 3 months I found it, again
identified by the 3 co planar circles and the triangle highland valley. So that
was another great discovery. Robert Sarmast also found out some interesting
stuff in lake Urmia which confirms the UB truth.
All I can say Robert Sarmast is highly regarded
in Paradise and throughout the Kingdom of Heaven" in his achievements.
Not crowns that waste away with the stubble and chaff!
Its "The double kingdom that become
one where truth and symbol meet" and hold the Crowns from the Sevenfold
treasury. The kingdom in type to the double Kingdom of Semah and Denah that
became one. We are absolutely proud of that as there is no greater honor
in Service of the Father in the Kingdom of Heaven!
sevens
posted
03-16-2008 07:06 PM
Brig
Yes the elect are the first fruits after the harvest but then I feel it follows
a tribulation period and then a perhaps second chance (thats where the
multitudes without number maybe relevant) and then a judgement occurs, I dont
know how many maybe quite a few depends on whats within them I suppose!
With ""multitude without number"" I may off saw something different there. Maybe
there is a few thoughts on it. I should go over that again.
Sevens
posted
03-16-2008 07:13 PM
Hey Brig where is you see "multitude
without number" I cant find that reference I know I used it.
sevens
posted
03-16-2008 07:35 PM
Hi Hendrik
quote:
I find the Enochian/Thoth/Hermes figure
absolutely intriguing as he was so close to the source -having gone to, and
returned alive from heaven, where he received instruction first hand and
recorded it for the benefit of future generations.
Yes I found those books very interesting in my
focalization to the ancient places. I found a tremendous mount of information
which struck may cords with me. I really enjoyed all the books I found many
parallels to the construct of change that I feel we are in the middle of.
Actually, I think the truth of everything is spread throughout in fragment form
of all relevant books of our history and religions.
thanks for your posts.
Sevens
posted
03-16-2008 08:16 PM
And by the way in the Hindu religion
these three location of the co-planar circles is the Tipura where the three
cities becomes one.
Its a "Tipura" of the 3 cities of the 3 circles that become one and this
is the gateway of this journey into the Hindu religion in India. So there is a
message for them to in alongside all the other religions.
No, you make the mistake about the Urantia Book
because you haven't read it all and you look with tainted glasses coupled with
Bias and Prejudice.
There is something to religion in that we are verifying the temples that were
first here in ancient times which does prove God.
The Ub has proved itself and has continued to prove itself.
I dont think The UB is racists it just comes down to your attitude coupled
with your bias that's all and the way you see things. Its just a commentary of
the angels of what occurred on the planet way before you and me. There is no
one in the UB people that I have met that even comes close to racism, its just
doesn't come up. We don't even think that way as he have more regard for man
than ever before. All we are is truth seekers.
Also you have to investigate the politics of the ancient times and what
occurred in those that leads to what we have today.
I totally dispute your racist comment and association with the UB. I look at
other books of religion from different cultures who are far worse in racist
views. But them where the days in those times and today we live in a different
world. I think what the UB points at is attitude which can be related to genes
but that not racists it just manifests in attitude and it all relates to the
fallen Sons of God who built Babel/Dilmun a city that I discovered of Iran
submerged through NASA worldwind bathy. Its this gene corruption that all man
beholds to various degrees and it manifests in belligerence, pride, FEAR,
closed mindedness and eventually sinful actions towards one another with
unspiritual intent. Bear in mind that Dilmun/Babel is discovered in the images
and the verification in this journey will prove all the information of the
past in the UB through its physical verification. Its only the Jesus attitude
that quells and can transform this gene of the belligerent propensity we all
have and that will reduce any racism within people.
Also why do you only concentrate on this level when the book is only giving a
commentary of the past, its not responsible for all the killings, essentially
man is responsible for that in his pride and prejudice not the UB. Can you
move on please into better waters that are far more fruitful and interesting.
You are stuck on racism haven't you moved on yet.
You know tonight I had dinner with a Muslim lady and I was interested in her
views and I was quite surprised by the amount of commonalities in our personal
religion. If it wasn't for the UB and my research I don't think I would of
spend the time. If I towed the Christian line I don't think I would of wasted
my time because of my Bias and prejudice they perpetuate therefore being
spiritually racist.
Sorry, but trying to establish this
Urantia racists paranoid thoughts is just crop of crap and I don't feel any
racist in my heart as my love for my fellow man has increased through the
teachings of Jesus from the UB without confusion. That's the effect of
increased love and service to my fellow man from the UB rather than this
racist crap you tow which is just such a low level of thinking when you have
not read or researched the whole book properly. That
to me displays spiritual racism of yourself!
Yes, I agree religion currently is flawed and
contradictory in attitude in some cases, thats why the UB manifested and we are
discovered the ancient temples of the Father to prove its information written
about.
Also I think there will be a rapture associated with the ancient places and this
journey to the former things.
If I were you I wouldn't underestimate the truths in all religions as there are
many fragments that are very true and are manifesting themselves today and
believe me there will be a parting the ways and that will include attitudes.
First there will be enlightenment through non violent exploration, discovery and
then verification which I believe relates to the ancient places. But then after
that or even before actual verification of the ancient places a rapture may
occur.
This will be the most devastating thing to happen to man where he will be in a
confounded stupor before he gets his senses together then he will realize the
truth and then he may alter his attitude for the better.
Rapture alone is the rebuke of the Gods to man for his action of today and the
past towards his fellow man. After rapture when all beauty and goodness is taken
of the planet then the last rebel will be unrestrained and he will rise with
anger because his time is up, so to speak.
If he goes down so will you, is his manifesto.
Then there will be great tribulation on this planet such as you have never seen
before.
Why I say this is because every aspect of this journey to the ancient places,
the beginning was foreseen by all the prophets in part from every religion from
every book. Dont underestimate a thing as we are in a time of spiritual flux and
anything can occur when man least expects it.
Believe me after final judgment all racism will be gone forever and man will be
one and that what's the UB is pointing at not this racist crap which is such a
low level paranoid thinking.
Melissa MacQuarrie, what I say to you is read the UB from cover to cover and do
the word search thing after you have read and studied the whole book every page,
then you will see the right context.
Really speaking the ancient places represents the line drawn in the sand by
Paradise! and the great parting! that has nothing to do with race or what
religion you belong to but it has all to do with wrong attitude.
Gee you use the dawn of man which is a commentary of barbaric and primitive man
who was extreme in his racism and self perpetuation. That's all that paper is a
description and commentary of man in his early evolution as seen and recorded
from the eyes of the angels 1 million years ago!!!!. Then you make mileage out
of this to support your flawed racist views. The book even supports Israel and
all Jews of the planet.
You have never read that part obviously and that's why have to read the whole
book properly.
At the end of the day the gene virus of racism and poor attitude will be all
taken of the planet and everyone has the gene mark of the beast!! and it takes
us to go through the Seven mansion worlds up to the Seventh mansion world when
the mark of the beast is fully eradicated. This gene corruption is the legacy of
the fallen Sons of God in going into daughters of man which built the 8th race
of this planet called the Nodites and this where all our problems came from and
it is the source problems of today as that gene still shows itself in the
opposition to love for one another.
Every man on this planet in various degrees has this gene whether you like it or
not...that's the truth of the matter! That why I am being led to the beginning
place including Babel/Dilmun because there is still unfinished business of the
Father that lays there and it relates to the source point of where it began
This journey is a teaching and learning lesson of the beginning in the
verification and what happened there and how it affects us today in our
attitude, not race or country or religion but attitude in the motivation from
within and how that relates to poor genes displaying poor attitude towards
his/her fellow brother/sister.
Dr Saddler and Eugenics so what big deal! What's
that got to do racism? or even the UB. It just a study of genes and human
behavior that he was interested in and had nothing to do with the UB, he was not
the author of the UB for your information. Does anyone tow the Eugenics path
today no. I don't even though I read the UB so what am I supposed to condemn the
guy because there was a fad going around in the 30s. How can you judge then by
today's standards especially when you weren't around in those days. I assume.
Give me a break with all this undermining. You
really have nothing to offer from yourself just mischief like your other mates.
Sevens
posted
03-18-2008 03:51 PM
Those who think climate
warming/warming is a political move is just full of it.
I also believe that the hybrid compromise is the biggest load crap that I have
seen in all my life.
Its under powered, still produces carbon and just another compromise to the
Nodite gorillas who also own and control everything in the car industry and the
world.
That Hybrid is just crap and another hunk of JUNK.
We should start going for electricity 100% to run our vehicles
quote:
About Tesla Motors
Tesla Motors develops and manufactures electric vehicles with exceptional
design, performance and efficiency, while conforming to all U.S. safety,
environmental and durability standards. The Tesla Roadster is the only highway
capable production electric car of any kind for sale in the United States.
With a 0 to 60 mph acceleration of 3.9 seconds, a 13,000 rpm redline, and the
fastest top gear acceleration of any production car tested by Car & Driver
magazine in 2007, combined with an EPA rating of 135 MPG equivalent, the Tesla
Roadster is unique in providing super car performance at twice the energy
efficiency of the best hybrids. For more information, visit
www.teslamotors.com
If they can do this with this viechle then it is
possible for a kinds of vehicles to be run on electricity. Also with further
research they could regenerate on the run through solar panels within the body
itself and through wind turbine within the car design itself. This would almost
enable the car to regenerate itself perhaps 100% without the need of outside
electricity.
Outside of this in what we have today is just junk and another deception on
mankind.
The Oil companies other than lubrication and roads are practically finished and
so are these (OPEC scam) countries who simply rip off man with their oil for
there own selfishness mainly in the perpetuation of religious wars with wrong
interpretations like in Whabbism ramping up the the differences and divisions.
At the end of the day they will all desist and no mercy will be shown to them as
they have contributed greatly to the destruction of this planet and are just bad
stewards.
Another CRAPPY thing this Bio fuel from corn which is crap as that is using up
our food supply and raises the price for mankind. Especially when there is less
rainfall in the right places which means less food. I can see a whole set up by
the last rebel for man in the destruction of this planet through his agents
tempted by greed and opportunity.
I'm just so crapped off about everything in what happens on this planet and the
crappy leaders and corporations that run it. Its just all about the hip pocket
and the total Greed without any care for anyone unless there motivated by public
consternation.
This would have to be the worst run planet in all of the Seven super universes.
Man does crap here All he thinks about is his power over others, his hovel, his
riches and hunger for more, his stupid car, his food so he can get fat and
satisfying what's between his legs and that's about it for the large majority.!
Just Bullshit man! You arsehole man. Cant even even run a planet to save
himself! and thinks nothing about his consequences on others. His religions are
so hopeless the cant even temper the grossness of his selfishness. Man even had
to separate his religion from state because his religion was unrealistic full of
pride and prejudice and completely shallow and weak and could not be the shining
light in wisdom.
But now we have gone the other way where man is Just plain flat out
materialistic, egocentric, selfish and couldn't give a crapper for no one! That
is setting us up for total disaster! as we are really loosing the planet! and
all the species.
Poor animals on this planet. I think we are less than animals from what I see. I
really feel sorry for all the species of the animals and planet kingdom...You
bastard mankind! All for profit!
Here you will be purged of all the remnants
of unfortunate heredity, unwholesome environment, and unspiritual
planetary tendencies. The last remnants of the "mark of the beast"
are here eradicated.
I cant help think about this Mark of the Beast tendency
unfortunate heredity
I believe this point to the Gene of the fallen Sons of God which was inserted
in the gene tree of Mankind and we all have that gene within in various
degrees and it manifests in the attitude of belligerence, poor attitude war,
death and destruction, will imposition over another. I really believe this is
attitudinal qualities of the fallen gene. This has nothing to do with country,
which church or which race as mankind as body has varying degrees of the
fallen sons.
We can see the amount of death and destruction throughout the world and how it
manifests and all the pride and prejudice that goes with that.
unwholesome environment
This environment would would be an environment that stimulates this attitude
like a war torn country or the constant call for destruction on one another,
or a place where there is mass killings and other murderous atrocities. But on
the same token this can occur in our very lives and the types of people that
one associates with. Which can be unwholesome and this does affect our planet
the earth where it becomes unwholesome as we pollute the environment with
purpose of selfishness.
unspiritual planetary tendencies
We know all about this one as we see violence all our us and dysfunctional
families in all societies mainly due to some sort of abuse! Being in an
"unwholesome environment" leads definitely to unspiritual tendencies that
leads to all kinds of evils that happen daily on every level.
This is where forgiveness is important because many people dont know what they
do when they do it! Even the whole universe knowing our problems is forgiving
in providing a path through Jesus our friend and creator to eradicate these
tendencies through mercy and love coupled with self realisation.
I believe it goes so much further, even to our gene structure that we/all man
has.
I believe according to the scriptures that there is a plan to preserve the
best quality of our genes and that is through a rapture process where Jesus
comes for his sealed ones and that follows a construct which is based on
faith, simple faith of a child in the acts of truth, beauty and goodness
towards on another. Where all motivation of man will be seen by the Ancients
of Days. This would constitute the standard of rapture which would be based
purely of attitude of the heart towards one another. I dont believe this
anything to do with the doctrines of one church or several of them.
I believe the Jesus teachings is the key which incorporates all things and is
the success path to the ultimate success of an individual.
Along with mark of the Gene in mankind in varying degrees there are those that
would give completely over to that 100% fills with hatred and all consuming
anger or could be those that manipulate in deliberate sin and imposition.
Those that would have this attitude would constitute the many against truth,
beauty and goodness attitude and go about to subdue that propensity through
fear. Fear is our main contender and that is everywhere through events and
through rein enforcement with imposition over man. This would mean there are
many Antichrists and I don't think through one person necessarily.
Anyway just some thoughts
By they way consider this Quatrain from Nostradamus
Quote:
At the
great battle of Armageddon
Shall join the crusade through rows totally attached
The pertanious army of God against the army of
the evil Serpent The Dragon shall be loosened onOctober third
Could the above mean the date of rapture?? Is Armageddon a spiritual war that
we will witness through rapture?? and the beginning of judgment??
and could the following happen when the Seventh number achieves his mission??
Quote:
74 The year of the
great seventh number accomplished, It will appear
at the time of the games of slaughter: Not far from the
great millennial age,
When the buried will go out from their tombs.
Compelling, In 2008, "It will appear at the time of the games of
slaughter:" the year of the games in China, The Olympic games not far
from the Millennial age which is 2000 or in the Julian calendar last year
2007."Not far from the great millennial age"
"The year of the great seventh number accomplished,"
could actually mean the author of this journey "The year of the great
seventh number accomplished". The Father being his Seventh number and
his Seven agents throughout the world in there personal journey or could it be
directly related to this research and the record of this, on the run journey
to the beginning where the end shall occur?? ...I don't know!
"When the buried will go out from their tombs" This is the
effect of judgment and dispensation ending and beginning times where the
sleeping are judged and spiritually walk out of there tombs to the mansion
worlds. The other effect of this is rapture or translation of the elect and
faithful in a simultaneous effect, in a twinkling of an eye!! When Jesus comes
for his own?? Makes you think
Could this be the time??
Could be October 3rd 2008 be the date of rapture and dispensation change??
According Nostradamus and this interpretation...I ask??
To be honest I have been down this track of time speculating even though a
rapture never occurred but I did discover something like a lost submerged city
each time. So officially I dont know the time nor the hour but the date is
intriguing and I wonder if we discover something in around that time.
Sevens
Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:12 am
More Nostradamus that could be relevant to this
journey to the ancient places.
Quote:
41 Born in the shadows and during a dark day, He will be sovereign in realm and goodness: He will cause his blood to rise again in the
ancient urn, Renewing the age of gold for that of brass.
"Born in the shadows and during a dark day," Hidden, born in
the shadows, hidden and isolated in a troubled time "He will be
sovereign in realm and goodness:" Points to Jesus and makes the truth
of the ancient places arise from the ancient urn, the ancient places presented
with goodness. Jesus is behind this in his love for all mankind. Renewing old
for new. Gold for brass, renewal, expansion of truth, wider and deeper.
Exactly true! The message of the journey is given in goodness from the
sovereignty of Jesus our sovereign.
Here is one that points directly to the Messiah
Quote:
53
The law of the Sun and of Venus in strife, Appropriating the spirit of prophecy: Neither the one nor the other will be understood, The law of the great Messiah will hold through the
Sun.
The current religions are in striving at the moment. However in the end times
the spirit of prophecy is appropriated or occurs in the end times. No one will
understand or accept the prophecies that are appropriates, no one will accept
it.
The prophecies relate to the Messiah and his coming and the law of the Messiah
including the prophecies of his coming will hold strong! "The law of
the great Messiah will hold through the Sun." His truth and
prophecies will hold strong throughout the period.
Quote:
96
The rose upon the middle of the great world,
For new deeds public shedding of blood: To speak the truth, one will have a closed mouth,
(internet) Then at the time of need the awaited one
will come late.
I wonder if "To speak the truth, one will have a closed mouth,"
It sounds like the message is given through the internet with a closed mouth,
there are references to this in St Ephraim. Also the message and the journey
is the journey of truth. "Then at the time of need the awaited one
will come late." Its probably takes a while for the pieces to fall in
place because it depends on the person putting this together, the crucial link
and much depends on his situation on all aspects in his life. It depends on
the situation of each link in the chain but the human link is the weakest link
thats why there is so much prophecy around the last prophet because he is the
weakest link and great investment has been placed to spur him on as he
recognizes himself in his journey. "The rose upon the middle of the great
world" I wonder if the Rose is the Journey to the ancient places?
Maybe??
Quote:
6 There will appear towards the North Not far from Cancer the bearded star: Susa, Siena, Boeotia, Eretria,
The great one of Rome will die, the night over.
Does the above could point to a comet or sigh
sign that comes from the constellation of cancer, the beaded one means its
very ancient, could that be a reference to the Ancients of Days. Note the
mention of SUSA one of the ancient places discovered in this journey. I wonder
if this is related to the on coming of a comet that affects these areas and
could mean decimation near the areas of Rome and other locations?? It just
interesting that 1st Susa is one of the places discovered in the journey.
And this fascinating quatrain
Quote:
Quote 14 He will come to expose the false topography, the urns of the tombs will be opened. Sect and holy philosophy to thrive,
black for white and the new for the old.
"He will come to expose the false topography" Surely this
must speak of the ancient submerged cities presented in the NASA worldwind
software. Expressed in the images is the false topography through 3d rendering
of the software which depict the anomalies of the city "the urns of
the tombs will be opened." and again associated with dispensational
change and rapture and the Urns of the ancient cities, the crowns are opened
and revealed in the images. "Sect and holy philosophy to thrive" Truth stands
tall and survives. "black for white and the new for the old."
Gold for brass, new for old. To me this means an expansion and deepening of
truth as found in the evidence of the topography of the ancient places in the
images. Surely this is all about the journey!
69 Beside the young one the old angel falls, and will come to rise above him at the end;
ten years equal to most the old one falls again, of three two and one,
the eighth seraphim.
Interesting one it appears that the ancient fallen angels falls and
the young one is successful in his mission.
"and will come to rise above him at the end;" The young one will rise above
the fallen angel and will conquer him through truth and discovery. The mission
of the The Young one is successful...mission accomplished.
Here is something from the Ub about the 144 and it could be relevant to the
end times
Quote:
Bestowal Attendants. Paradise Avonals,
but not Creator Sons, when on a bestowal mission
are always accompanied by a corps of 144 bestowal attendants.These 144 angels are the chiefs of all other
Son-Spirit ministers who may be associated with a bestowal mission.There might possibly be legions of angels subject
to the command of an incarnated Son of God on a planetary bestowal, but all
these seraphim would be organized and directed by the 144 bestowal
attendants. Higher orders of angels,
supernaphim and seconaphim, might also form a part of the attending host,
and though their missions are distinct from those of the seraphim, all these
activities would be co-ordinated by the bestowal attendants.
Here is some information of Seraphim 1-2-3 found in the Urantia Book who maybe
related to 3-2-1 Seraphim mentioned in Nostradamus above quatrain
Although their ability to traverse the energy circuits makes planetary
departure feasible to any midwayer, they have individually pledged themselves
not to leave the planet prior to their sometime release by the universe
authorities. Midwayers are anchored on a planet until the ages of settled
light and life. With the exception of 1-2-3 the first, no loyal midway
creatures have ever departed from Urantia.
Quote:
The Ub paper 77 1-2-3 the first, the eldest of the primary
order, was released from immediate planetary duties shortly after Pentecost.This noble midwayer stood steadfast with Van and
Amadonduring the tragic days of the
planetary rebellion, and his fearless leadership was instrumental in
reducing the casualties in his order. He serves
at present on Jerusem as a member of the
twenty-four counselors,having already
functioned as governor general of Urantia once since Pentecost.
Here is information on the Four and twenty counselors found in the UB
Quote:
4. THE FOUR AND TWENTY COUNSELORS
At the center of the seven
angelic residential circles on Jerusem is
located the headquarters of the Urantia advisory
council, the four and twenty counselors.
John the Revelator called them the four and twenty elders:"And round about the throne were four and twenty
seats, and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in
white raiment."The throne in the center
of this group isthe judgment seat of the
presiding archangel, the throne of the resurrection roll call of mercy and
justice for all Satania.This judgment
seat has always been on Jerusem, but the
twenty-four surrounding seats were placed in position no more than nineteen
hundred years ago, soon after Christ Michael was elevated to the full
sovereignty of Nebadon. These four and twenty counselors are his
personal agents on Jerusem, and they have authority to represent the Master
Son in all matters concerning the roll calls of Satania and in many other
phases of the scheme of mortal ascension on the isolated worlds of the
system. They are the designated agents for
executing the special requests of Gabriel and the unusual mandates of
Michael.
These twenty-four counselors have been recruited from the eight Urantia
races, and the last of this group were assembled at the time of the
resurrection roll call of Michael, nineteen hundred years ago. This Urantia
advisory council is made up of the following members:
The Four and Twenty Counselors
Quote:
1. Onagar,
the master mind of the pre-Planetary Prince age, who directed his fellows
in the worship of "The Breath Giver."
2. Mansant, the great teacher of the post-Planetary
Prince age on Urantia, who pointed his fellows to the veneration of "The
Great Light."
3. Onamonalonton, a far-distant leader of the red man and
the one who directed this race from the worship of many gods to the
veneration of "The Great Spirit."
4. Orlandof, a prince of the blue men and their leader in
the recognition of the divinity of "The Supreme Chief."
5. Porshunta, the oracle of the extinct orange race and
the leader of this people in the worship of "The Great Teacher."
6. Singlangton, the first of the yellow men to teach and
lead his people in the worship of "One Truth" instead of many. Thousands
of years ago the yellow man knew of the one God.
7. Fantad, the deliverer of the green men from darkness
and their leader in the worship of "The One Source of Life."
8. Orvonon, the enlightener of the indigo races and their
leader in the onetime service of "The God of Gods."
9. Adam, the discredited but rehabilitated planetary
father of Urantia, a Material Son of God who was relegated to the likeness
of mortal flesh, but who survived and was subsequently elevated to this
position by the decree of Michael.
10. Eve, the mother of the violet race of Urantia, who
suffered the penalty of default with her mate and was also rehabilitated
with him and assigned to serve with this group of mortal survivors.
11.Enoch,the first of the mortals
of Urantia to fuse with the Thought Adjuster during the mortal life in the
flesh.
12. Moses, the emancipator of a remnant of the submerged
violet race and the instigator of the revival of the worship of the
Universal Father under the name of "The God of Israel."
13. Elijah, a translated soul of brilliant spiritual
achievement during the post-Material Son age.
14.Machiventa Melchizedek, the only Son of this
order to bestow himself upon the Urantia races. While still numbered as a
Melchizedek, he has become "forever a minister of the Most Highs,"
eternally assuming the assignment of service as a mortal ascender,
having sojourned on Urantia in the likeness of
mortal flesh at Salem in the days of Abraham. This
Melchizedek has latterly been proclaimed vicegerent Planetary Prince of
Urantia with headquarters on Jerusem and authority to act in behalf of
Michael, who is actually the Planetary Prince of the world whereon he
experienced his terminal bestowal in human form. Notwithstanding this,
Urantia is still supervised by successive resident governors general,
members of the four and twenty counselors.
15. John the Baptist, the forerunner of Michael's mission
on Urantia and, in the flesh, distant cousin of the Son of Man.
16. 1-2-3 the First,
the leader of the loyal midway creatures in the service of Gabriel at the
time of the Caligastia betrayal,
elevated to this position by Michael soon after his
entrance upon unconditioned sovereignty.
These selected personalities are exempt from the ascension regime for the
time being, on Gabriel's request, and we have no idea how long they may
serve in this capacity.
Seats numbers 17, 18, 19, and 20 are not permanently occupied. They are
temporarily filled by the unanimous consent of the sixteen permanent
members, being kept open for later assignment to ascending mortals
from the present postbestowal Son age on Urantia.
Numbers 21, 22, 23, and 24 are likewise
temporarily filled while being held in reserve
for the great teachers of other and subsequent ages whichundoubtedly will follow the present age.Eras of the Magisterial Sons and Teacher Sons
and the ages of light and life are to be anticipated on Urantia,
regardless of unexpected
visitations of divine Sons which may or may not occur.
I thought that was very interesting
Sevens
Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:15 pm
UB paper 45
Quote:
Supreme justice can act instantly
when not restrained by divine mercy. But the ministry of mercy to the
children of time and space always provides for this time lag, this saving
interval between seedtime and harvest. If the
seed sowing is good, this interval provides for the testing and upbuilding
of character; if the seed sowing is
evil, this merciful delay provides time for repentance and rectification.
This time delay in the adjudication and execution of evildoers is inherent
in the mercy ministry of the seven
superuniverses. This restraint of justice
by mercy proves that God is love, and that such a God of love dominates
the universes and in mercy controlsthe
fate and judgment of all his creatures.
and
Quote:
Parents, those who
have borne and reared children, are better able to understand why Michael,
a Creator-father, might be slow to condemn and destroy his own Sons.
Jesus' story of the prodigal son well illustrates how a loving father can
long wait for the repentance of an erring child.
sevens
posted
03-19-2008 07:37 AM
Why should anyone take it easy, its
all about truth isn't it and not his ego!
No sympathy at all. This is the rough and tumble of truth research it has
nothing to do with feelings and expanded ego especially when he desires to be
on top of everyone else which has nothing to do with truth.
From what I see there is no continuing discoveries and never was one, only
speculation.
ahahahahah
sevens
posted
03-19-2008 07:53 AM
Daffy Duck
No worries, but one lot of scientist say one thing and another day another
thing but look around and the data
something is awfully wrong and people and animals are losing there homes like
in the pacific island and Indonesia due to sea warming and expansion not to
mention purposeful destruction animal habitat for profit.
Wirelessguru I agree! I just pissed off about it all.
sevens
posted
03-19-2008 08:07 AM
What realistic artifacts, Ive asked
that he posts some images but nothing and if there is artifact its a very
recent one which does not mean its is Atlantis.
He has shown nothing at all.
Hey with Sarmast, it was written about, the wall and he discovered it, he also
discovered the Acropolis with the 3 co planar circles which connected to
Dalamatia City a real presentation that you see right now. Much better than
what you or Gorgeous can offer which is a flat out ZERO.
Get real Docyabut Spain and Atlantis forget it nothing going on there. There
is no presentation with evidence.
Just another piece of Bullcrap that we have to live with.
There wont be anymore discoveries from him that would qualify for Atlantis
just recent history from about 1350BC big deal nothing! Stonehenge has more
going on than Georgeous which was 4000BC.
This whole fiasco is like the 3 monkeys or the willing blind following the
blind!
Any artifact Georgeous ever found comes from the latter stone age. Thats all
it is!
The Latter Stone Age.
Sevens
posted
03-19-2008 08:28 AM
quote:
You believe in the Boogeyman,
sevens?
Naahhh just joking. I'm not sure what living in
your house.
quote:
I know this house has passageways and hidden
rooms.
What an interesting house and why the hidden
rooms and passageways?
quote:
Need to drop about 20 or 30 lbs.
Well time to get out the joggers and the bike
and sweat it off. ahahahahahaha
Hey maybe there is some macarbe that happened in it history and the energy
still surrounds certain energy points in the house, like a retaining memory
that manifests itself in certain places of the house. This energy manifest
itself in the strangest ways that the dogs react. Possibly that kind of
Bogeyman.
Was your town an old mining town?
Maybe someone died there and never
wanted to go beyond and still married to his possessions.
ahahahahahahaha I'm not sure still speculation!
Hey Brig why don't you do a Geo physical
sounding on your house and the surrounds to locate possible tunnels, it might
be a worthwhile adventure! You never know what you may find!
He was "Afraid of what he might
find"
What a chicken what happened to the
sense of adventure and curiosity.
12 Apostles, you really have to get with it a
little more and start expanding yourself.
I'm sure you will be awaken no problem, I have demonstrated the connection
between the Bible and the UB more than anyone else on the Planet and yet
people judge and run to the hills in light of the current evidence!
And you know through revelation that the churches undergo a rebuke....you know
that. So how can you be so judgmental.
Besides I am sure you don't read or look into things out of fear.
I can tell that you have not much to say by the size of your posts just
judgement.
You just got to look into things with proper analysis and Jesus commands us to
look into things for the truth of the matter. There is nothing wrong with the
Urantia Book which has led me to the greatest discoveries on the planet of the
lost cites from ancient times or former times. There is nothing on the planet
that compares and it is all written about in the Bible and there is clear
description of this whole journey in your books and other books.
By judging me you judge yourself and I have to be careful of that to as this
gets very intense. But don't judge me it would error because I work for the
Father full time without the monthly PAY CHECK and I am producing the results
on the table no crap! Just simple plain evidence led by the books of religion
and given freely without price and reward and precept upon precept, stone upon
stone and block upon block stammering away on these posts, threads and
branches.
All I'm saying is that I recognize many things that the church fails to do so
because of pride and prejudice and over bearing doctrine used to fear people,
the churches have not come up with the evidence as I have in this journey of
faith with my friend and master Jesus beside me.
Since I discovered the first temple of the Father on this planet, I hold one
of the crowns of the Sevenfold treasury. And where are the churches I ask!
Hiding behind doctrine which is not acceptable by the words of the bible.
There will be penalty for avoiding the truth and casting judgement being the
so called representative of the Father. Like I said it is Christianities
responsibility for the Congregation is to search out the truth of the matter
as it reveals itself and if they don't they are in big trouble and will
undergo devastating correction from the Father.
First there will be revealment through Jesus and then correction by the Father
according to the attitude! If the leaders don't search this out properly and
judge away they will miss rapture. I can guarantee that!
Then after which the leaders and are large
portion of the church knowing that they missed the opportunity and will go
through a most devastating regret for failing to look into the matter and
failing to act in the proper sense at the time when the Father and Jesus
requires the church.
All the books clearly describe every aspect of this journey and why do you
fight it. If you fight and go against me you go against the Father and that
is like rejecting the work of the Holy Spirit and you know that is almost an
act of a reprobate. I know that there is a severe penalty no matter who.
That is the crossroads we are at. The parting of the ways before the gates to
the city where the tree of life is housed. Far beyond man made doctrine and
ideas that are not consistent in attitude to the truth as it reveals itself.
Also the leaders bare great responsibility in this and if they and a large
portion of the congregation miss rapture due to stiffnecked, then there arse
is grass from the Congregation and they will be in the biggest trouble from
there own people for leading them astray for not looking into the matter due
to slothfulness and judgement and failing to look into it and for not being
open and honest with sincerity! This will stripped bare all the leaders of
all the pride and prejudice, they will be all bare to the core and completely
vulnerable post rapture. They will miss rapture in that they have failed in
there duty to man because of poor attitude with pride and failing to do.
They all not out of the woods by any stretch of
the imagination.
This journey and revealing is the greatest CATCH 22 ever on the planet.
You are damned if you hide and run to the hills judging away and alternatively
you are damned by the the churches if you look into the matter and embrace.
There is only one way out and that is to embrace and research with truth,
beauty and goodness with a honest heart looking into everything.
There is no other way! What a construct with such challenge which perplexes
people and all guided by the Father in relation to the former things and the
cities. If I were I would prepare your congregation NOW and tell the truth and
don't hide it, that's the worst thing you can do.
If you don't you are in trouble for failing to
warn man which would be the greatest failure of man towards his brother in
this current scenario. If the leaders don't do this they will miss rapture in
light of the truth. Just this post can determine there parting of the ways.
This journey is like an octopus with big long tentacles. As soon as you become
conscious of this journey, even by looking at the images of the cities then
you are involved whether you like it or not. You, in and your attitude will be
seen in the instant and a record is made by the recorder Seraphim. That
happens to everyone that just looks at the information and the images even if
its in 5 minutes, there in and a record has been made! This one way the
Most High searches the souls of man.
No way around it, you are locked in to the journey of survival and your
attitude is seen in the instant.
Be very careful not to judge and that's advise I take on board to. This
journey can be very dangerous on the spiritual level and it does concern
rapture and the former things with a new book as all the books are opened and
judgement is based on the standards that the opened books behold.
Sevens
Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:53 pm
Im no American and no expert on politics but
during the rule of Clinton, The USA was more prosperous than now and I
think the Democrats seem to have more appeal, I tend to think the
republicans are somewhat stayed, conservative and have been responsible
for many wars.
And where did it lead to?
Perhaps if the USA right from the beginning negotiated with Osama before
9/11 it could of been avoided. Maybe perhaps.
Ignoring potential threats and not dealing with them through negotiation
right from the beginning could of avoided this whole mess.
Just a thought.
But then again negotiating with extremist would be near impossible
particularly when they are guided by poor interpretations of their book.
Understandable or but was the pride to great for a giant to negotiate with
what was perceived as small threat which became quite large.
But did anyone at least try to negotiate an understanding??
About Clinton, I didn't mind the guy at all and he was well liked in the
land of Sinim. I thought his speeches where very positive! and people
responded to that. Far better than what the coastlands have now and where
is it leading to I ask!
Remember the Iraq war began through false information of the WMDs. A war
based on crap that came from the republicans cabinet. Colin Powell was
deceived by his own people in government. And who were they? Which party
was in power then, the same as today!
So then I think what moral fiber does this government have?? When it
deceives it own representative for an ultimate goal!!
Colin Powell would of made a better president he has much style and
maturity.
Anyway, I think why not put a women in power for a change, I think you
would have better results than these old men and there scams.
I think Hillary Clinton would make a fresh change and it
would be good to see Women in power for a change.
See what she can do, some how I think women do have some advantages and
the country should give it a go. See what happens. I think many people are
sick of the same ole old men and there stayed views and typical rhetoric.
Obama well he just another good speaker with a nice suit, just another
bloke! with another idea.
I think the USA needs a new positive light. Give a women a go! Like the
Britian did with Thatcher, see what she can do.
Plus I dont think Religion should be involved in politics and commerce,
they should stick to spirituality and truth in Jesus and help people be a
better person and prepare people for spiritual leadership and for the
afterlife with the ultimate with compromised truth that we see today.
Why did Jesus kick the moneychangers (commerce) out of the temple? Because
religion was soiled by commerce and politics!
sevens
Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:44 am
I also think the USA should take note of
some of the systems that work in the world like the British, Canadian
and Australian systems and pick the best out of them and adopt them in
their own system such as
Proper unemployment benefits for all, this keeps people of the streets
and gives them the basics and employment agencies that look for work for
people and job companies are compensated by the government when they
find jobs for the people.
Medicare system that takes in all people of the country not a select
poor few and that covers dental and all medical.
I believe in first home buyers grants with even interest free loans,
stuff the banks. the sooner families have there house paid off the
better they are.
Unfortunately the selfishness and Greed in the US is rampant and that's
why most of the wealth is locked up in the top 10% of the inhabitants
and that's why these services for the people are a joke! and that's why
there are people living on the streets.
What is the joke is the Christian prosperity get rich doctrine programme
and yet there are people on the streets, such hypocrisy!
There is much the government could learn from the British orientated
system and people over in Sinim are much happier than those in the
states because there is proper safety net for all.
This makes people more secure, happier and a more stable country which
lessens all the social programming and rhetoric to keep people in side.
Also the Rich must pay tax, they made there riches from the people and
therefore they should give back to the people for the people. Thats only
fair and reasonable and I think avoiding tax like these off shore
companies should be deemed illegal because the poor miss out.
The very people the rich made there millions from.
I think when the Rich get busted for stealing, avoiding tax, the money
should go into a fund for housing and job programs for the poor, to help
the poor. Drug syndicates when they get busted all there money should go
to the people programs not the coffers of the government. That just
filters into war spending and all sorts of other rubbish!
Just some thoughts.
I have to laugh! If I was over there going into politics and pushed this
line, I would be run out of town ahahahahahaha
The Family should be the number 1 priority and out of that comes all
good things, not this war crap and the rhetoric that comes from it.
Families should not end up out on the streets nor individuals.
I also believe that Christianity, the whole should commit to a complete
review of there truth in light of the evidence and go to find the
complete truth of the matter. Nothing short of a reformation in these
times but we know that will not happen so in light of that Father and
Jesus may have to take charge of that one.
Now I will really be run out of town. ahahahahahahahah
If the rich don't help the poor in there
selfishness then there riches will most likely be taken away by the
Father.
Sevens
posted
03-20-2008 11:46 Pm
I saw a
doco on History Channel about the Bermuda triangle. I was thinking there must
be a portal hole there that enters the universe circuits it must have some
effect when operating.
It was interesting. However, they went over to Bimini as Atlantis and I must
it seems like on shaky ground as Atlantis in my view.
It was the eyewitness account of pilots that said the most to me, it seemed to
have all the Hallmarks of what I know in the UB. From what I understand the
circuits are partially opened and could mean an entry of all mighty things
from Paradise that envelopes the planet like a fog. This could be an entry
point and notice where the Bermuda triangle lays in only slightly North of
that giant circular sea floor basin. Its a circle shape and perhaps it
concentrates the energy for the circuits.
From what i know since the UB was written that the planetary circuits are
partially opened. The Effect could be the Bermuda triangle.
If all reveals itself and thats where it begins, the rapture and the judgement
process through the planetary circuit gate when they are fully opened, then
Edgar Cayce was right in metaphor that something would arise in Bermuda
perhaps masked as Atlantis.
Very interesting, on this basis I would agree with Edgar Cayce, if this was
the case. He also says that it comes from 3 other places from our past which I
believe is this journey to the ancient places you knoe 1stEden, Dalamatia City
Adamsons and Dlimun/Babel.
It could be that all that is divided could come together in a oneness that
fits like a puzzle on all levels and brings it on.
Sounds like Dr Who eh! ahahahahahahahahahahah
This is Utopian Man This is off the Paradise order. If everyone did have the
piece of the puzzle and it unified. ahahahahahahaha!
Sevens
posted
03-21-2008 12:13 AM
That Antarctica one, I'm
interested in. Ive got some theories going on that to.
Especially the circles under the ice near the magnetic South. I could be
Seraphic Domain and that a circuit would be close to the South
Let me know if they mention anything about communications and lake Vostok and
pheonomena there.
Please.
sevens
Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:13 pm
Here is a Google video of a pastor talking about
rapture, Ive only seen a quarter of it but I am amazed how my thought is
confirmed by his and the how the end times plays out. His bible verses I think
points to this restoration of all things like the truth of everything after
rapture of the first wave.
So far it very close to what Im seeing in the scenario.
It appears to be a total confirmation with my research and the journey. Yet
I'm at the first quarter so far so good. I noticed he spoke of the research
and how the pieces come together and piece like a puzzle. Just like in the
journey to the ancient places.
Sevens
Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:24 am
Quote:
69 Beside the young one the old angel falls,
and will come to rise above him at the end;
ten years equal to most the old one falls again,
of three two and one, the eighth seraphim.
The above is from Nostradamus and comes from one of the top posts.
The eight Seraphim could be the eighth Angel of the eighth year, you know
Seven/Eighth, seven8, could it be 2008? The Eighth Seraphim or 3 2 1 in the
above could actually be Seraphim 1-2-3 of the UB. Does Seraphim or Primary
Midwayer 1-2-3 have a crucial role in the call? In whats happening here could
Primary Midwayer be involved personaly in this journey????? I ask! or could the
documenter of this journey be actually 3-2-1, seen in metaphor as the eighth
seraphim but in metaphor in the identification of the deliverer of this journey,
the physical deliverer?? many questions but only one answer.
See what happens eh!
Also there is a surname that I am familiar with in the above and also my branch
number of my bank a/c is 3-2-1 Eh! Eh! Eh! what's happening here ahahahahah
You know, I would have to say it would be interesting if I working directly with
Primary Midwayer 1-2-3 of the 24 counselors as in the above list in Jerusem and
I am 3-2-1 the 8 ahahahahahaha gotta chuckle at that one. And the it happens in
the year when the Seven number accomplished. Seven8 perhaps 2007/08?? the eight
year is when the Seven number finished his role and self realized in the journey
and just translated. like with Enoch!
I have to laugh at that one. aahahaha how bizarre and incredible in the
revealment on the journey as we get closer to even think that.
Primary Midwayers was in the Service of Gabriel to and don't be surprised that
Gabriel is involved in this project through Midwayer 1-2-3 and with 3-2-1 the
8th or Seven8, Sevens. Maybe! its a total faith journey but the prospect! praise
the lord!
The thread of this journey could also coming through the Gabriel representative
of the Father on the Seventh world in the Mansion world, The Seventh World of
Paradise, the Father would be operating through there, Salvington and the
Capitals.
This would have a whole structure behind it and all the personalties would be
involved as perhaps seen through the eyes of Nostradamus and realized by myself
now through the journey to the beginning places.
Its a real Epic on the path of truth but I dont see any dead ends here.
As soon as we realize the structure of this immense project if feel things will
accelerate further towards action more so. Surely this time around I cant be
that from the truth of the matter.
And of course Enoch is involved in this project as I use his testimony as
approved by the Father as found in Hebrews of the New testament. Its his
information that I rest on regarding the Son of Man.
Adam and Eve in the discovery of 1stEden of Cyprus. A remarkable feat by Robert
Sarmast.
Everyone in one way or another of the four and twenty in the throne room is
involved in this journey.
All the components in the discoveries of the journey fits a personal area of
each personality in there life here on this planet.
I think David Ells touches on many things and I agree with him in the main.
But in my focalisation and being intimate with the journey to the ancient
places I see things personalized to the journey in the scriptures he uses. In
many things he says the same things I do about the body of Jesus.
From what I see from the scriptures he uses do point to the journey about of
the ages, heritage of the ages which means all the ancient places. He
describes many characteristics of the journey related to the city in my view.
Much he makes of the body of Christ but I feel that is literal to the journey
written in metaphor.
The Video was made on 2001 and now its 2008, 7 years later. When I think about
the Journey back in 2000, it was active even then and the same determination
is the same determination in this current drive. The Journey has certainly
progressed since then with the discovery of the other cities. Its interesting
that 2 witnesses speak out Babylon literal. Considering the discovery of
Babel/Dilmun of Iran and being part of the journey including its messages
makes you think??
How he uses the bible is the same technique that happens here, as you read and
focalise the sum of the words confirm each other. But this is not restricted
in the Bible as this include other books as well.
The journey to the ancient places confirm this and I believe this is how the
end time witness occurs in relation to the cities of the heritage of the ages.
This I believe is the great sign where anything is possible we could be close
to the first harvest or first fruits in relation to the cities and the current
timeline. After the first fruits begin the latter rain of truth and I believe
this journey and the ancient places are connected to this.
People may look into it and see the trail and then recognized what had
happened. This might consequences but it may spur on the call to exploration
and discovery to confirm the event of the first fruits harvest. This could be
the plan. Wouldn't it be interesting if this happened. Like suddenly the first
fruits are gone in a flash and this record is the only reliable record of the
journey. People would have to go through all my forum replies to find the
truth and the characteristics of the journey and the various messages as
guidance through the tribulation.
Currently this research comes from the wilderness, isolated and alone. Writing
furiously day and night during easter! Knowing its an important time and
theres nothing on TV as usual ahahahah While everyone is camping I'm at home
writing the testamony which will be like an ark written by the Sevens. You
just never know how crucial all this information might be if what I think may
actually occur and its relation to this journey. This might be a real book
that involves the planet if all in the beforehand of what I think actually
occurs and then it occurs a real live world drama where there is only one
testamony left behind with the full description from within.
The would come the latter rain, I'm sure of that in that truth reveals itself
and a testing comes in light of the truth.
"Blessed are those who place themselves in the beginning for they
shall not taste death"
Thomas
Sevens
Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:41 pm
Latest Speculation
Here is an interesting twist. David Ells believe that the day of the Lord will
happen 40 days after some feast or days end of some sort going by memory. As
it happens in this journey I declared my own 40 days test based on all the
common testing times be it 40 days or 40 years. The test seems to be extended
and that was confirmed in another book.
Just recently based on Nostradamus I was curious about October the 3rd near
the games of slaughter.
The Olympic games finish Aug 24th 08. October the 3rd is 40 days after the
close of the games. Now Jesus' birthdate is 21st August 3 days before the end
of the games. I would be aware at around October the 1st and the 3rd 08.
I don't know the time or hour its pure speculation from what I read in the
texts and how I feel about them in relation to the journey. That's my
speculation of first fruits harvest for the year. However I did make the same
speculation last year but that was on based on different patterns I saw in the
scriptures. They were like rehearsals perhaps to the initial event. Ahh you
never know.
Here is a really confusing timeline image of the journey, you wont be able to
make sense of it but look at the verses and the bits of information in
relation to the 40 days after and in relation to the 7 days it could
mean 08.
This interest in the 40 days after was prompted by the 2 videos I saw and the
bits that I responded to in his presentation.
Look at the Burach ones mainly and this was last year.
Mind you this is the third time Ive look at interest in an end time date for
the. 06 07 and now its Sevens in 08. In all these previous times the first
fruits harvest never came but I did discover a lost city, each year equally
spaced in time, very close to the time. Another great piece to the puzzle all
forming a oneness that may lead to the first fruit harvest as in translation,
not just the within feeling but a full blown translation where the translated
are in peaceful habitats and nice surrounds.
This where I differ with David Ells I believe its
a taking away a literal rapture. I agree with him on how it happens but I
believe its a little more literal and it has to come in the physical
demonstration, like we have in the ancient places and the journey and because
it is authentic that opens the gate for man to understand. As he understand he
opens his heart to the truth where the Holy Spirit can move with man more so.
I appreciated the work of David Ells and I think he was spot on many fronts
but its 2008, 7 years down the track and much has been discovered and you can
tell there are few components he doesn't know but In my view they are becoming
apparent in this journey to the cities. The fragments he uses, if you focalize
on the ancient places and the characteristics of this journey you can see more
in the scriptures that are personal to this and paints a panorama of the whole
landscape of this journey to the ancient beginning places and its end where a
new beginning will come out of.
Remember that we are offset by 7 years based on Jesus' Birthdate Aug 21st 7BC
. Really speaking we are coming to the first year of his millennium reign (in
the eighth, one to eight??) during the games when man shows forth his
greatness and prowess through the Olympic games and 40 days after of Jesus
Birthdate is October 1st, 3 days apart. Remember Nostradamus Oct 3rd date 40
days after the close of the Olympic Games?? Makes you really wonder if all the
pieces are coming together here I can think of many in this construct.
That first week in October is very important because its a Seventh week from
Jesus' Birthdate, 40 days period finishes there after the games, its in a
eight to one pattern that its the first year of the Jesus millennium reign
based on his 7BC Birthdate there 2001 but in our time 08, eight to one, one to
eight. This year is Seven8 apparently the 8th day after the seventh day ( a
day can equal a year) it all happens. We are in that eight day after the
Seventh with Sevens and not to mention a good match to Nostradamus' quatrain
about his timeline, the games, not far from the millennial age.
I believe that rapture connected to the ancient
beginning places would be the great sign of the latter rain of truth before
judgement.
Sevens
posted
03-22-2008 06:38 PM
Hi
Those blocks in the link look like
Andite blocks, the same as in Baalbek, Lixus, Pacific islands and in Inca land.
The Andites traveled all over the world.
I have a feeling that the blocks is evidence of the earlier Andites.
Here is some information of the Andites in the Balkans
quote:
8. THE DANUBIAN ANDONITES
The Andite peoples of the Euphrates valley migrated north to Europe to mingle
with the blue men and west into the Mediterranean regions to mix with the
remnants of the commingled Saharans and the southern blue men. And these two
branches of the white race were, and now are, widely separated by the
broad-headed mountain survivors of the earlier Andonite tribes which had long
inhabited these central regions.
These descendants of Andon were dispersed through most of the mountainous
regions of central and southeastern Europe. They were often reinforced by
arrivals from Asia Minor, which region they occupied in considerable strength.
The ancient Hittites stemmed directly from the Andonite stock; their pale
skins and broad heads were typical of that race. This strain was carried in
Abraham's ancestry and contributed much to the characteristic facial
appearance of his later Jewish descendants who, while having a culture and
religion derived from the Andites, spoke a very different language. Their
tongue was distinctly Andonite.
Page 897 The tribes that dwelt in houses erected on piles or log piers over
the lakes of Italy, Switzerland, and southern Europe were the expanding
fringes of the African, Aegean, and, more especially, the Danubian migrations.
The Danubians were Andonites, farmers and
herders who had entered Europe through the Balkan peninsula and were moving
slowly northward by way of the Danube valley. They made pottery and tilled
the land, preferring to live in the valleys. The most northerly settlement of
the Danubians was at Liege in Belgium. These tribes deteriorated rapidly as
they moved away from the center and source of their culture. The best
pottery is the product of the earlier settlements.
The Danubians became mother worshipers as the result of the work of the
missionaries from Crete. These tribes later amalgamated with groups of
Andonite sailors who came by boats from the coast of Asia Minor, and who were
also mother worshipers. Much of central Europe was thus early settled by
these mixed types of the broad-headed white races which practiced mother
worship and the religious rite of cremating the dead, for it was the
custom of the mother cultists to burn their dead in stone huts.
and this part
quote:
7. ANDITES OF THE MEDITERRANEAN ISLES
During the decline of culture in Mesopotamia there persisted for some time a
superior civilization on the islands of the eastern Mediterranean.
About 12,000 B.C. a brilliant tribe of Andites migrated to Crete. This
was the only island settled so early by such a superior group, and it was
almost two thousand years before the descendants of these mariners spread to
the neighboring isles. This group were the narrow-headed, smaller-statured
Andites who had intermarried with the Vanite division of the northern Nodites.
They were all under six feet in height and had been literally driven off the
mainland by their larger and inferior fellows. These emigrants to Crete were
highly skilled in textiles, metals, pottery, plumbing, and the use of stone
for building material. They engaged in writing and carried on as herders and
agriculturists.
Almost two thousand years after the settlement of Crete a group of the tall
descendants of Adamson made their way over the northern islands to Greece,
coming almost directly from their highland home north of Mesopotamia. These
progenitors of the Greeks were led westward by Sato, a direct descendant of
Adamson and Ratta.
The group which finally settled in Greece consisted of three hundred and
seventy-five of the selected and superior people comprising the end of the
second civilization of the Adamsonites. These later sons of Adamson carried
the then most valuable strains of the emerging white races. They were of a
high intellectual order and, physically regarded, the most beautiful of men
since the days of the first Eden.
Presently Greece and the Aegean Islands region succeeded Mesopotamia and Egypt
as the Occidental center of trade, art, and culture. But as it was in Egypt,
so again practically all of the art and science of the Aegean world was
derived from Mesopotamia except for the culture of the Adamsonite forerunners
of the Greeks. All the art and genius of these latter people is a direct
legacy of the posterity of Adamson, the first son of Adam and Eve, and his
extraordinary second wife, a daughter descended in an unbroken line from the
pure Nodite staff of Prince Caligastia. No wonder the Greeks had mythological
traditions that they were directly descended from gods and superhuman beings.
The Aegean region passed through five distinct cultural stages, each less
spiritual than the preceding, and erelong the last glorious era of art
perished beneath the weight of the rapidly multiplying mediocre descendants of
the Danubian slaves who had been imported by the later generations of Greeks.
It was during this age in Crete that the mother cult of the descendants of
Cain attained its greatest vogue. This cult glorified Eve in the worship of
the "great mother." Images of Eve were everywhere. Thousands of public shrines
were erected throughout Crete and Asia Minor. And this mother cult persisted
on down to the times of Christ, becoming later incorporated in the early
Christian religion under the guise of the glorification and worship of Mary
the earth mother of Jesus.
By about 6500 B.C. there had occurred a great decline in the spiritual
heritage of the Andites. The descendants of Adam were widespreadly
dispersed and had been virtually swallowed up in the older and more numerous
human races. And this decadence of Andite civilization, together with the
disappearance of
Page 896 their religious standards, left the spiritually impoverished races of
the world in a deplorable condition.
By 5000 B.C. the three purest strains of Adam's descendants were in Sumeria,
northern Europe, and Greece. The whole of Mesopotamia was being slowly
deteriorated by the stream of mixed and darker races which filtered in from
Arabia. And the coming of these inferior peoples contributed further to the
scattering abroad of the biologic and cultural residue of the Andites. From
all over the fertile crescent the more adventurous peoples poured westward to
the islands. These migrants cultivated both grain and vegetables, and they
brought domesticated animals with them.
About 5000 B.C. a mighty host of progressive Mesopotamians moved out of the
Euphrates valley and settled upon the island of Cyprus; this civilization
was wiped out about two thousand years subsequently by the barbarian hordes
from the north.
Another great colony settled on the Mediterranean near the later site of
Carthage. And from north Africa large numbers of Andites entered Spain and
later mingled in Switzerland with their brethren who had earlier come to Italy
from the Aegean Islands.
When Egypt followed Mesopotamia in cultural decline, many of the more able and
advanced families fled to Crete, thus greatly augmenting this already advanced
civilization. And when the arrival of inferior groups from Egypt later
threatened the civilization of Crete, the more cultured families moved on west
to Greece.
The Greeks were not only great teachers and artists, they were also the
world's greatest traders and colonizers. Before succumbing to the flood of
inferiority which eventually engulfed their art and commerce, they succeeded
in planting so many outposts of culture to the west that a great many of the
advances in early Greek civilization persisted in the later peoples of
southern Europe, and many of the mixed descendants of these Adamsonites became
incorporated in the tribes of the adjacent mainlands.
This probably explains the large blocks in HB as
they seems to have all the Andite Characteristics spread throughout the world.
Could this fragment "Another great colony settled on the Mediterranean near
the later site of Carthage." point to Malta as in the evidence of the large
stone blocks that are found there but there is no explanation for them.
This is around 7000 years ago when these Andites settled Malta and brought there
heritage.
The family connection of the Germans and the
Jews. The come from the same distant family gene pool.
ahahahah I have to laugh at that, I find that completely ironic! considering the
past of what one brother did to another which is one of regret.
Sevens
posted
03-22-2008 07:23 PM
Hahahahahahahahaha
Yes, I think so!
There seems to be a common blood connection with the
German people and the forefathers of the Abraham and the Jewish people.
quote:
8. THE DANUBIAN ANDONITES
The Andite peoples of the Euphrates valley migrated north to Europe to
mingle with the blue men and west into the Mediterranean regions to mix with
the remnants of the commingled Saharans and the southern blue men. And these
two branches of the white race were, and now are, widely separated by the
broad-headed mountain survivors of the earlier Andonite tribes which had long
inhabited these central regions.
These descendants of Andon were dispersed through most of the mountainous
regions of central and southeastern Europe. They were often reinforced by
arrivals from Asia Minor, which region they occupied in considerable
strength. The ancient Hittites stemmed directly from the Andonite stock;
their pale skins and broad heads were typical of that race. This strain was
carried in Abraham's ancestryand contributed much to the
characteristic facial appearance of his later Jewish descendants who, while
having a culture and religion derived from the Andites, spoke a very different
language.
and this part
quote:
The tribes that dwelt in houses erected on
piles or log piers over the lakes of Italy, Switzerland, and southern Europe
were the expanding fringes of the African, Aegean, and, more especially, the
Danubian migrations.
quote:
The Danubians were Andonites , farmers
and herders who had entered Europe through the Balkan peninsula and were
moving slowly northward by way of the Danube valley. They made pottery and
tilled the land, preferring to live in the valleys. The most northerly
settlement of the Danubians was at Liege in Belgium. These tribes
deteriorated rapidly as they moved away from the center and source of their
culture. The best pottery is the product of the earlier settlements.
which connects the Germans with the Danubians and
this part which connects the current Germans to the Same Danubian heritage, the
same as Abraham
quote:
The primitive culture of Europe, which was
encountered by the invading Nordics, was that of the retrograding Danubians
blended with the blue man. The Nordic-Danish and the Danubian-Andonitecultures met and mingled on the Rhine as is witnessed by the existence
of two racial groups in Germany today.
So there you have it the German and the Jews are
connected by the Distant Danubian Andonite Hittite the same forefathers as
Abraham from the Euphrates Valley where the Andites lived and no doubt the
Hittites and the Andonite Danubians had some traces of Adamic and Nodite Gene
within them to. This is the first time this connection has been made.
I gotta laugh at all the racism when in actual fact these people, the Germans
and the Israelis are the same blood line or blood kin of the same distant
Andonite Hittite Danubian blood line! What was all that WW2 holocaust all about
considering they are brothers both from the Andonite/Hittite/Danubian gene pool
and when they migrated they became the Danubian Andonite peoples that eventually
populated the Rhine Valley Germany. The same Stock that connects with Abraham
Descendants, The Hebrews, the Jews in bloodline many thousands of years back
during the Andite years in the Euphrates Valley.
Unbelievable! Both peoples which are the same bloodline come from the Euphrates
Valley.
Now found! in the Urantia Book
Would the characteristic be like dark hair brown eyes... or "pale skins and
broad heads" dont now, maybe?
The family connection of the Germans and the Jews. They come from the same
distant family gene pool.
ahahahah I have to laugh at that, I find that completely ironic! considering the
past of what one brother did to another which is one of regret.
This was the picture of race mixture
presented in central Europe about 3000 B.C. In spite of the partial
Adamic default, the higher types did blend.
These were the times of the New Stone Age overlapping the oncoming Bronze
Age. In Scandinavia it was the Bronze Age associated with mother worship.
In southern France and Spain it was the New Stone Age associated with
sun worship. This was the time of the building of the circular and
roofless sun temples.
The European white races were energetic builders, delighting to set up
great stones as tokens to the sun, much as did their later-day descendants
at Stonehenge. The vogue of sun worship indicates that this was a
great period of agriculture in southern Europe .
circular and roofless sun temples.
Like the pottery of the circles found on Vases in that area only an indication
of this New stone age period and its artwork.
Nothing to do with Atlantis!
Sevens
Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:36 pm
I have serious reservation about the course of
miracles.
I think its a book of the last rebel. I read a commentary once where in the
3rd book it tells you the technique along with the attitude and has all the
hallmarks of the last rebel.
Definitely attempts to compromise Jesus and lead people astray.
Many years ago I tried to read it and it was all confusing, I felt then that
there was something wrong with the book, I didn't even get past the first
chapter and it was straight after I read the UB and there is a marked
difference.
Oh I thought it was interesting that we are one
big family at the end of the day.
I wouldn't have a clue what geneticists say, what I posted was on the run.
You would have to put a study together I suppose.
A study would have to include all sorts of things I suppose but it would be
related to skull types and DNA from what I can gather. But the parameters of
the study would have to be based on guidelines that fit with the information
being relied on. Like looking at at and then working out ways to find the
evidence and see if it fits.
There was a couple of points that seem to confirm the Urantia case which was
Quote
Although the Ashkenazi (European) community separated from their
Mediterranean ancestors some 1,200 years ago and lived among Central and
Eastern European gentiles, their paternal gene
pool still resembles that of other Jewish and Semitic groups,originating in the Middle East.
One theory claims that the Jews of Eastern Europe derive predominantly from
Jewish migrants from the Rhineland or from
Italy, being fairly direct descendants of the original ancient Jewish / Hebrew populations.
and
A second theory suggests a northerly migration from
the Balkans or from Central Asia, with the
possibility of large scale conversions of Slavs and/or Kuzars to Judiasm.
The above seems to point to the Urantia fragments
I was was completely surprised when it occurred to me that there is a connection
between the Jews Abraham and the gene pool that went to Europe and that can be
identified.
That was completely interesting
and these the fragments that got me going
Quote
8. THE DANUBIAN ANDONITES
The Andite peoples of the Euphrates valley
migrated north to Europe to mingle with the blue men and west into the
Mediterranean regions to mix with the remnants of the commingled Saharans
and the southern blue men.
They were often reinforced by arrivals from Asia
Minor,
and
The Danubians were Andonites ,
farmers and herders who had entered Europe
through the Balkan peninsula and were
moving slowly northward by way of the Danube
valley.
and
Danubian-Andonite cultures met and mingled on
the Rhine as is witnessed by the existence of
two racial groups in Germany today.
and
The ancient Hittitesstemmed directly from
the Andonite stock; their pale skins and
broad heads were typical of that race. This
strain was carried in Abraham's ancestry and
contributed much to the
characteristic facial appearance of his later
Jewish descendants who, while having a
culture and religion derived from the Andites, spoke a very different
language.
I'm really interested in finding out the truth of origins, I think its a good
study.
It might be that we all have a commonality in Genes in Europe and might be very
interesting to know that we have more in common than what divides even in our
Genes.
It interesting 500 years after Abraham left the
Euphrates Valley, UR collapsed and there would of been a large exodus then and
even before to the Rhineland/Danube River. At around 2500BC there was a great
dispersal of Andites and that would also included the Abraham/Hittite strain
going to Europe, However 500 later Abraham particular Hittite line left UR, the
Euphrates Valley to Palestine via Nathor and met with Melchizedek, the Sage of
Salem! and that's when everything began to where we are today!
What even more amazing is that 4000 years later from Melchizedek, The Son of Man
Jesus came and today in our times we are on (I believe) the twilight of great
enlightenment through the books and discovery, verification of the former cities
which will lead to a new destiny in truth and could lead to a call to rapture
and some judgement as well. I dont know see what happens.
I have to laugh at that one for such a connection for Easter to find out that
are large majority of Europeans are all connected to the Andites of the
Euphrates river or the Sumerian's which go back to the Adamites and the Nodites
with some Adamson gene pool and which go back to the original and first Cities
Dalamatia City, Dilmun/Babel 1stEden, 1stSusa and then to Egypt
You could be right! But I dont think that all of the above is a detrimental
thing, actually I see it as a positive thing as we see commonality that should
reduce the race issue to zero knowing that we all apart of the other even to
our genes. The UB seems to support that in its commentary of our racial
history with key fragments that can be proved by DNA from what I see in the
above article and through other methods that leads to the scientific
hypothesis.
I think that is a good thing and it is a test of attitude as well from all
sides in light of truth on the run and what we find in the books of religion,
we have to recognize ourselves in light of truth and that may entail a
correction of attitude! which can come from both sides.
I believe this discovery on Easter only highlights how flawed racist ideas are
when we are all technically connected to each other as discovered. It proves
that racists ideas are on shallow foundations as found in the first post. It
really highlights "Who are we to judge our fellow brother" Based on
what regarding race?? when we are all connected in genetic terms particularly
of the Abrahamic gene Line and its commonality with the German Andonite
Danubian culture in the Rhineland.
To me this is one of the things that will highlight itself for our correction
and one of the truth things of the time we are in and that will highlight
itself through the research and its discoveries along the way.
See whether its Jew of the Abrahamic Line in
Israel or a German in the Rhineland we should be all one happy family! as we
all come from the Euphrates Valley in Sumeria.
That to me is a find and a half! I believe this
is the technical proof through the books of religion that annuls race issues
technically speaking. We all have, from one common family gene pool which can
be traced back to 2500 - 3000 BC in Sumeria and Further. One or many branches
went to Europe through the Danube, the Balkans and then to the Rhineland and
other branches went to Israel but one branch went to Melchizedek that doesn't
mean we all not connected.
Hey! I don't have a race issue with anyone
because you are my brother! We go back to UR Sumeria.
I suppose its when we find the truth of the matter
in parallel with the Father in the personal discovery that all the various
Genes within us activate and to know that love for one another on all levels
even within forgiveness activates the higher propensities of our genes and we
actually feel it, the light of truth that manifests from within ourselves.
Fear and suspicion holds us back from the full fruits of the first fruits!
2,750 - 2,000 BC Early Helladic (Mycenean) period in mainland Greece -
settlers from the north, speaking a non-Indo-European language; place
names ending in "-ssos"
Early Minoan period in Crete
I wonder iif "-ssos" is a distant reflection is Sato and still perpetuated in
the language?
Quote
Almost two thousand years after the settlement of Crete
a group of the tall descendants of Adamson
made their way over the northern islands to
Greece, coming almost directly from their highland home north of
Mesopotamia. These progenitors of the Greeks
were led westward bySato, a
direct descendant of Adamson and Ratta.
SATO = SARTO maybe = SO maybe = SOSS
So many questions.
Ok Im going back in the timeline particularly
about Crete.
Quote
During the decline of culture in Mesopotamia there persisted for some time a
superior civilization on the islands of the eastern Mediterranean.
About 12,000 B.C. a brilliant tribe of Andites
migrated to Crete. This was the only island settled so early by such
a superior group, and it was almost two thousand
years before the descendants of these mariners spread to the neighboring
isles. This group were the narrow-headed, smaller-statured Andites
who had intermarried with the Vanite division of the northern Nodites. They
were all under six feet in height and had been literally driven off the
mainland by their larger and inferior fellows.
These emigrants to Crete were highly skilled in textiles, metals, pottery,
plumbing, and the use of stone for building material. They engaged in
writing and carried on as herders and agriculturists.
By 5000 B.C. the three purest strains of Adam's
descendants were in Sumeria, northern Europe, and Greece. The whole
of Mesopotamia was being slowly deteriorated by the stream of mixed and
darker races which filtered in from Arabia. And the coming of these inferior
peoples contributed further to the scattering abroad of
the biologic and cultural residue of the Andites.
From all over the fertile crescent the more
adventurous peoples poured westward to the islands. These migrants
cultivated both grain and vegetables, and they brought domesticated animals
with them.
About 5000 B.C. a mighty host of progressive
Mesopotamians moved out of the Euphrates valley and settled upon the island
of Cyprus; this civilization was wiped out about two thousand years
subsequently by the barbarian hordes from the north.
Another great colony settled on the Mediterranean near the later site of
Carthage. And from north Africa large numbers of
Andites entered Spain and later mingled in Switzerland with their brethren
who had earlier come to Italy from the Aegean Islands.
When Egypt followed Mesopotamia in cultural decline,
many of the more able and advanced families fled
to Crete,thus greatly augmenting this
already advanced civilization. And when the arrival of inferior
groups from Egypt later threatened the civilization of Crete,
the more cultured families moved on west to Greece.
The group which finally settled in Greece
consisted of three hundred and seventy-five
of the selected and superior people comprising
the end of the second civilization of the Adamsonites. These
later sons of Adamson carried the then
most valuable strains of the emerging white races.
They were of a high intellectual order and, physically regarded, the most
beautiful of men since the days of the first Eden.
This one "By 5000 B.C. the three purest
strains of Adam's descendants were in Sumeria, northern Europe, and Greece"
So by 5000BC you have and Adamic sons and there culture in Greece and the Greeks
(Adamson's) on Crete and neighboring islands. Then 5000 years ago around the
spiritual decline of Egypt 3,000BC, 5000 years ago a group of the Adamsons from
Crete invaded the mainland of Greece through the Northern island and then onto
the mainland led by Sato and 375 followers. So we have the Adamson branch
invading mainland of Adamite Greece from Crete 3000 years later??
Is this the same Greek culture in History that we are more familiar with today?
This may explain the differences in the Macedonians, the Spartans and the Greeks
but really they are off the same family thousands of years later but
reconnecting at different time interval but there history goes back to Adamson
and Ratta and his father Adam the same common family. The beginning!
Then to the North of Greece you have the Danubian admixation which its own
characteristics.
and is here is little fragment of the Andonite
invasion including the Adamson progeny of Europe confirmed here by 3000BC, 5000
years ago. This is around the the Adamson from Crete came to Greece.
Quote
By 3000 B.C. increasing aridity was
driving these Andonites back into Turkestan.
This Andonite push southward continued for over a thousand years and,
splitting around the Caspian and Black seas, penetrated Europe by way of
both the Balkans and the Ukraine. This invasion
included the remaining groups of Adamson's descendants and, during
the latter half of the invasion period, carried
with it considerable numbers of the Iranian Andites as well as many
of the descendants of the Sethite priests.
So where did the second Adamsonite civilisation come From?
From here
Quote
line 123: This center of civilization was situated in the region east of the
southern end of the Caspian Sea, near the Kopet Dagh. A short way up in the
foothills of Turkestan are the vestiges of what was onetime the Adamsonite
headquarters of the violet race. In these
highland sites, situated in a narrow and
ancient fertile belt lying in the lower foothills of the Kopet range,
there successively arose at various periods four diverse cultures
respectively fostered by four different groups of
Adamson's descendants. It was the second of
these groups which migrated westward to
Greece and the islands of the
Mediterranean. The residue of Adamson's descendants
migrated north and west to enter Europe
with the blended stock of the last Andite wave
coming out of Mesopotamia, and they were also numbered among the
Andite-Aryan invaders of India.
and again this is the end track of this Second
Adamson civilisation that migrated through to the isle of the Med from the
Adamson headquarters in Iran.
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The group which finally settled in Greece consisted of
three hundred and seventy-five of the
selected and superior people comprising the end of the
second civilization of the Adamsonites.
These later sons of Adamson carried the then most valuable strains of the
emerging white races. They were of a high
intellectual order and, physically regarded, the most beautiful of men since
the days of the first Eden.
And this connects with the last Andite wave that came out of Euphrates period
2500-2000BC which Abraham was the last you could say to leave Mesopotamia and
ended up in the Eastern Med and Egypt where he had a distant cousin on the
throne which does relate to the Shepherd King period in Egypt.
Quote
The residue of Adamson's descendants migrated north and west to enter Europe
with the blended stock of the
last Andite wave coming out of Mesopotamia
So the last Andite wave went to Europe and Abraham went to the Eastern Med. The
parting of the ways to the North or East and that was the crossroad of that
common family between the Danubian Germans of the Rhine and and The Jews with
the same common family back in the Euphrates Valley in Sumeria.
So we can trace this back to Adamson's highland which I believe is this place.
12,000 years ago the Greeks, the 2nd Adamson
civilisation came from here. No wonder they had tales of the Elysian Fields,
islands home of the Gods and tales of immortality from the apples of the tree of
immortality, food of the Gods.
Yet this Saga and this place goes much further
back to the real beginning city of Dalamatia City and in 1st Eden where another
Saga took place.
While Im on the Subject of the Greeks and there
background. Here is an interesting piece
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PAPER 98 - THE MELCHIZEDEK TEACHINGS IN THE OCCIDENT
The Melchizedek teachings entered Europe along many routes, but chiefly
they came by way of Egypt and were embodied in Occidental philosophy after
being thoroughly Hellenized and later
Christianized. The ideals of the Western world were basically
Socratic, and its later
religious philosophy became that of
Jesus as it was modified and compromised through contact with evolving
Occidental philosophy and religion, all
of which culminated in the Christian church.
For a long time in Europe the Salem missionaries carried on their
activities, becoming gradually absorbed into many of the cults and ritual
groups which periodically arose. Among those
who maintained the Salem teachings in the purest form must be mentioned
the Cynics. These preachers of faith and
trust in God were still functioning in Roman Europe in the first
century after Christ, being later incorporated into
the newly forming Christian religion.
Much of the Salem doctrine was spread in Europe by
the Jewish mercenary soldiers who fought
in so many of the Occidental military
struggles. In ancient times the
Jews were famed as much for military valor
as for theologic peculiarities.
The basic doctrines of Greek philosophy, Jewish theology, and Christian
ethics were fundamentally repercussions of the earlier Melchizedek
teachings.
1. THE SALEM RELIGION AMONG THE GREEKS
The Salem missionaries might have built up a great religious structure
among the Greeks had it not been for their strict interpretation of their
oath of ordination, a pledge imposed by
Machiventa which forbade the organization of
exclusive congregations for worship, and
which exacted the promise of each teacher never to function as a priest,
never to receive fees for religious
service, only food, clothing, and shelter.
When the Melchizedek teachers penetrated to pre-Hellenic Greece, they
found a people who still fostered the
traditions of Adamson and the days of the
Andites, but these teachings had become greatly adulterated with
the notions and beliefs of the hordes of inferior slaves that had been
brought to the Greek shores in increasing numbers. This adulteration
produced a reversion to a crude animism with
bloody rites, the lower classes even making ceremonial out of the
execution of condemned criminals.
and this fragment with a recommendation at the end
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The evolution of religious philosophy among the Hellenic and Hebrew
peoples affords a contrastive illustration of the function of the church
as an institution in the shaping of cultural progress. In Palestine, human
thought was so priest-controlled and scripture-directed that philosophy
and aesthetics were entirely submerged in religion and morality.
In Greece, the almost complete absence of
priests and "sacred scriptures" left the human mind free and unfettered,
resulting in a startling development in depth of thought. But
religion as a personal experience failed to keep pace with
the intellectual probings into the nature and
reality of the cosmos.
In Greece, believing was subordinated to thinking; in Palestine, thinking
was held subject to believing. Much of the strength of Christianity is due
to its having borrowed heavily from both Hebrew
morality and Greek thought.
In Palestine, religious dogma became so crystallized as to jeopardize
further growth; in Greece, human thought became so abstract that the
concept of God resolved itself into a misty vapor of pantheistic
speculation not at all unlike the impersonal Infinity of the Brahman
philosophers.
But the average men of these times could not grasp, nor were they much
interested in, the Greek philosophy of self-realization and an abstract
Deity; they rather craved promises of salvation, coupled with a personal
God who could hear their prayers. They exiled
the philosophers, persecuted the remnants of the Salem cult, both
doctrines having become much blended, and made ready for that terrible
orgiastic plunge into the follies of the
mystery cults which were then overspreading
the Mediterranean lands. The
Eleusinian mysteries grew up within the
Olympian pantheon, a Greek version of the worship of fertility;
Dionysus nature worship flourished; the
best of the cults was the Orphic brotherhood, whose moral preachments and
promises of salvation made a great appeal to many.
Page 1080 All Greece became involved in these new methods of attaining
salvation, these emotional and fiery ceremonials. No nation ever attained
such heights of artistic philosophy in so short a time; none ever created
such an advanced system of ethics practically without Deity and entirely
devoid of the promise of human salvation; no nation ever plunged so
quickly, deeply, and violently into such depths of intellectual
stagnation, moral depravity, and spiritual
poverty as these same Greek peoples when they
flung themselves into the mad whirl of the
mystery cults.
Religions have long endured without philosophical support, but few
philosophies, as such, have long persisted without some identification
with religion. Philosophy is to religion as conception is to action.
But the ideal human
estate is that in which philosophy, religion,
and science are welded into a meaningful
unity by the conjoined action of
wisdom, faith, and experience.
That last piece is the recommendation like in this journey to the ancient
places and the truth behind eac places, a meaningful one.
Quote
But the ideal human estate is that in
which philosophy, religion, and science
are welded into a meaningful unity by the
conjoined action of wisdom, faith, and
experience.
The best from each. Well I reckon that works and that approach is the best way
as I know through this journey to the ancient places.
No worries Calvin, Praise the Lord! Thanks for the
warning but there are more warnings for those who dont listen at the end times
when all is revealed.. Everything!!! from top to bottom which does mean the
Abyss! The cities!
All the best
Have you the read the Urantia Book completely? How do you know its wrong?
ahahahahah!!! I am on absolutely standby, all stations are on action mode!!!
Anyway I reckon Ive have the best interpretation and presentation on this side
of the black stump that will make all theories chaff and stubble. ahahahahahah!
AAHHHHH COME ON YOU GUYS! Where is your George Washington spirit? eh! You guys
can do better than this, you maybe better in flicking to verses in the bible
but I have the truth, the diamond in the rough, the pearl of great price!
using the bible and other books with equal respect! We are now faced with the
Heritage of the Ages, the power of the ages and what do we do in light of our
theories?. Saved for thousands of years and preserved for us today! tremble
and aghast! There looks like evidence of something AAAAAHHHHH!
And look at ya! full of judgement and warning! No way man! that's not Jesus
in exploration and discovery we should rejoice instead for the victory is
ours and we will be rewarded because this is the beginning of the latter rain
as in the truth of all ages and demonstration!
That's what I got and what I was led to in the books and no where else!
Ok so I looked up the keyword
Orphic Brotherhood and this is what I found
in the UB
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The
Eleusinian mysteries grew up within the Olympian pantheon, a Greek version
of the worship of fertility; Dionysus
nature worship flourished; the best of the cults was
the Orphic brotherhood, whose moral
preachments and promises of salvation made a
great appeal to many.
D.
Spread of Mystery Religions (Mithracism, Christianity); Communal
partaking of sacred food or drink common; often food was thought to takeon,
by santification, the powers of the god, which were then magically conveyed
to the communicant; Each of the great cults had "mysteries" associated wth
them and all assumed the possibility of magic; Preachers claiming divine
inspiration traveled from city to city, performing apparently miraculous
cures
1. Tammuz : still hailed in towns of Syria with the cry, "Adonis
is risen," and his ascension into heaven was celebrated
2. Dionysus:
a. Greeks continued to commemorate his agony, death, and
resurrection
b. Orphicism--influenced by hindu
and Pythagorean ideas, the Orphic cult taught throughout Greece that the
soul is imprisoned in a succession of sinful bodies and can be released from
this degrading reincarnation by rising in ecstatic
union with Dionysus.At their gathering,
the Orphic brotherhood drank the blood of a bull sacrificed to--and
identified with-- the dying and atoning savior
3. Demeter: initiates mourned with the goddess the snatching of her
daughter into Hades, and meanwhile lived on consecrated cakes and a mystic
mixture of flour, water, and mint; on ther third night a religious drama
represented the resurrection of Persephone, and the officiating priest
promised a rebirth of every purified soul; the Eleusian rites required
initiates to confess sins, abstain for a time from certain foods, bathe for
spiritual as well as physical cleansing, and then offer an animal sacrifice
Sevens
Reproduction based on an Orphic seal, 3rd century AD.
I thought the above was absolutely fascinating and in my mind. I can see
reflections of the Adamson heritage in distant reflection of this Orphic
writings and distant views of the rapture when man becomes gods so to speak.
The lake of Memory, sipping from the waters of the lake of memory sounds like a
distant past to once paradisaical place like 1Eden but also could mean the
future as well, like in this journey sipping out of the Lake of Memory
literally.
Here is some information about the Orphic
Brotherhood.
AAAhhhh come on! Thanks for your concern but I totally disagree with you and
with Calvin BIG TIME! with thanks.
Man O man Oh! I completely disagree with Calvin and his words to the highest
degree!
What if Im right it sounds like you are controlled by fear to venture forth
with boldness into new areas of Jesus Christ in the things he is revealing !
I have no fear at all about my Immortal soul! I look forward to my rapture!
FOR SURE! I'm ready, ready to GO! Its you guys that might be left behind!!
Then you will have to review all my work over the years on this journey then
you will be thinking. You know we should of looked into this when he had the
opportunity!
and this
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It is especially disconcerting that this conversation had to take place
on the day after Easter Sunday, however, perhaps you can make something
good of it, by doing the right thing and honoring the memory of Christ.
I did honor Jesus, that's why I never went camping over Easter instead I spent
my time at home finding out more about the Lord, Jesus my friend! in this
grand journey where the new will come out of the Old, the New Beginning out of
the former things.
What have you got to worry about when the Feast is about to happen. This is
where the action for Easter is, right here and no where else in the way of the
new for old, gold for brass with some refining to do.
Actually I spent 6 hours listening to David Ells one of your Pastor Friends
but listening in relation to this journey to the ancient places.
The first 2hrs was good and confirmed the journey in many places being you
have to be focalized to the ancient places and this journey.
The Second 2hrs was OK and still, I identified key points but you have to be
focalized on the ancient places.
The third 2hrs I feel he was lost and confusing where he lost me.
But overall he was identifying this journey, he didn't know what the logistics
and physical components where of the end times was so he would justify it as
spiritual rapture without physical. I believe there is a physical and
spiritual rapture and its one and the same connected with the ancient cities.
I believe he has the event timing horizon right but doesn't have the tools in
what is used for it to happen. So he would pass it on to the spiritual. But in
this journey we have the instruments and the locations, the city and the goal
and reflections of the journey in the books and the out come.
Look you guys can get upset with me and grant me
eternal life but it will take mighty mountains to swerve my path!
How do you know that you are not submitting to the will of the father for not
being open minded?? Eh! EH! especially to the revealing from the books and to
the cities and foreseen? Eh! EH!
These are the instruments of the Father of the original ancient temples of
thousands of years ago before Abraham. The places are being revealed for a
purpose and I think I know what it is.
Big time! Its all to do with religion and unfinished business from these old
and long ago places.
Christianity should look at this more deeper, this is where the Father relies
on the Body of his Son but we know thats not going to happen unless a
realisation occurs after the fact! But by then rapture has passed!
Ive never had so much fun and enjoyment working
through the books of religion to the ancient places!
Just remember that if I am right and a rapture
occurs, this journey to the ancient places is the only record of its type to
exist and it wont be on the Net for long after rapture!
Ive never had so much fun and enjoyment working through the books of religion
to the ancient places! You know that test of faith, the great leap in the
beforehand, the test our spiritual fibre? The real Catch 22 situation, like a
twilight zone area?
The clock is ticking but we don't know the time
nor the hour but it must be close as we find in the revealed? The all time
mystery! unlocked in religion. Doesn't matter what we think, it has been
identified and therefore unlocked by an individual the activator of the
process of the end times.
Inhabitants of the Earth I would be on red alert for anything, anytime and
everywhere make sure your motives are right towards one another daily.
This is the great dilemma for religion in the
End Times hesitancy and unbending attitude!
Even if you look at the following link and in
metaphor relate the fragments used in the commentary to the journey of the
ancient places and its characteristics and what it represents you find that
story becomes alive and tells a story with characteristics that relate to the
submerged cities.
In ancient Greek mythology and religion the DOMOS HAIDOU or
"realm of Haides" was the land of the dead, the
final resting place for departed souls. It was a dark and dismal
realm in which bodiless ghosts flitted across grey fields of asphodel. The
Homeric poets knew of no Islands of the Blessed or Elysian fields, or for
that matter a Tartarean hell, instead all the
spirits, including those of the great heroes, descended into Haides.
Doesn't the above have characteristics of the ancient cities. Like the
submergence of the a City of the Gods, descending in to earth taking its
people with them. A true story that perpetuates in the story and yet this
place has spiritual significance related to the after life. A place that
takes resemblance of a holy Temple and the knowledge it regards to the next
world. A city like what we have in Dalamatia City.
And this next commentary, doesn't this have all the hallmarks and fits the
description of the demise of the lost City of the Gods
Quote
In the Iliad the realm is a damp and mouldy
place buried inside the hollows of the earth.The dead cross a river,
pass through gates guarded by the Hound, and
present themselves before King Haides and Queen Persephone. The
ghosts of the unburied dead are allowed to
return to the realm above to visit the living in their dreams and
demand a proper burial. The land of Haides is quite distinct from Tartaros,
the prison-house of the Titanes, which is
described as lying as far beneath Haides as earth beneath the heavens.
"pass through gates guarded by the Hound, and present themselves before King
Haides and Queen Persephone" Like what we have with the submerged cities. We
have the cities located in the images with connecting symbolism. You have to
pass through gates to enter the city like what is present on the front end of
th site, all the same characteristics.
There is a King and Queen within the city and in a temple or a city. All the
same characteristics as we see in the literal. "prison-house of the Titanes"
We see characteristics of the rebellion and images of them interned as in the
reality of today and there demise was related to the fall in Dalamatia City.
"The ghosts of the unburied dead are allowed to return to the realm above
to visit the living in their dreams and demand a proper burial." This
seems to have reflections of the sleeping survivors awaiting the
dispensational completion so they can move on, like the dead raising.
Dalamatia City could be instrumental in this process and it does represent the
Father as in the first temple.
Sometime I wonder whether this is mythologies way of its own end time
description key features even with a physical location.
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THE REALM OF HADES IN THE ILIAD
In Homer's Iliad all the dead descend into the murky subterranean realm
ruled by Haides and Persephone. It is known either as the dôma Aidao "the
house (domain) of Haides" or domoi Aidao "dwelling-places of Haides."
Aïdao itself is literally "the unseen." The
unburied dead cannot cross the river and roam the earth until their
funeral rites are complete. In this manner the ghost of Patroklos
visits Akhilleus in his sleep and demands burial (23.63 ff).
After the rites are complete the soul (psykhê)
crosses over the River (23.63 ff) and
passes through the gates (pylai) of Haides and joins the company of
the spirits of the dead. The gates are guarded by the Hound of Haides (kynos
Aidou) (8.361 ff).
In the above there seems to be references to gates and the dead passing
through through the river. The gates are guarded. This same reality does
exist with the gates to the first and second temple of the ancient places in
metaphor online. These gates of Dalamatia City is related to next world, the
kingdom of heaven though the viechle of the ancient cities in a physical
demonstration.
In our case of the city Dalamatia City we have the knowledge of the fruit of
the tree of life within the gates of this city where attitude is main the
focus on passing through the gates. Attitude is all related to the future.
I thought it was interesting seeing if there are reflections in mythology that
relate in characteristics to this journey and what it represents and
personally I think there is a connection or description which is like an
insight into this journey in different ways. But then perhaps I'm seeing to
much into it. Over focalisation ahahahahahah
Sevens
posted
03-24-2008 05:15 PM
Are you finding that to be the case
with documentaries. That most of the time its add breaks, then its a repeat of
the last segment, then we see 9 minutes of content with another repeat of the
previous segment with additional add breaks.
I must say many documentaries are just fluff with nothing conclusive. Even if
the experiment fails to find conclusion they make a big deal out of it in order
to fill the blank spaces.
Hey, I'm just going through the books to see if
there is some commonality thats all.
I'm not stirring up anything, I'm just writing about what I found in the
books.
The point that I'm making is that there should never been the disasters of the
past as both races do have commonality of the same culture many thousands of
years ago which can be read. Meaning both cultures are brothers from long ago
and there should never be persecutions between brothers.
What's wrong with that point!
Gee! this whole effort to the ancient places is
for the Jewish people and for Christianity an effort that no one lifts a
finger for, everyone is just slothful being comfortable in the comfort zone
avoiding the truth of everything for out of fear!
That's not the Jesus way, out of fear so we deny and judge!
I like the Jewish people and Christianity, why just recently I thought I had a
Jewish girlfriend even though I was wrong as it turned out. I had no problem
in having a relationship with a Jewish girl and would have no problem if she
was Muslim either as to me its the heart and motive that count not the race
nor religion.
Personally, I wish I could find a partner who
has similar focalisations in her faith so we could walk together in a oneness
and do things for the Father together! More than anything this is what I
desire, more than money, more than prestige and career more than anything!
Unfortunately, I don't think I am going to find a partner on this planet that
I can love unreservedly, so now I look to the Adamic children in heaven in
the hope that I find a partner amongst this holy race who will descend with
the elect at judgement.
This very race of Adam is going to be with the Elect after all things have
reached there consummation on this planet. The Adamics and the elect will both
be supping of the tree of life having large families and fixing the planet for
the next 1000 years.
The rest of the Adamic Family in Heaven know exactly what is happening here
and are being prepared for this great responsibility that they have for this
planet! I'm sure the Adamics in heaven know all about this bloke on the planet
fighting the battle against ignorance and pride! and who are busting to give
this guy a hand in getting the truth out there.
There is only one thing. How tall are the
Adamic progeny...9 ft?? I am 6ft 4 tall, might be a little tall for me
ahahahahahaha but they were the most beautiful race on earth then and they are
especially preserved by the Kingdom of Heaven for this time now and for the
elect and with all the right propensities that lead to success!
All I know is that when all is finished on this unbelieving planet, I and my
partner will be supping of the tree of life, living immortality with my new
and beautiful partner for the rest of the ages having babies and a large
family. Both of us will be glowing a violet hue and that will be the mark of
the tree of life and its fruits. That will be the identifying mark of the
Elect and the literal Sons and daughters of the Father through Adamic progeny
on Earth.
In essence in truth, the Sons of God that defaulted lost this promise of the
future and what they lost we receive but its in the attitude and thats the
reason for this great test of mankind which includes his religion and all
things.
And why were the apostles given prophecy for the
end times because Jesus knew the Church would be distracted with other things.
Why is the Father severe with the church in the end times and why is there a
great falling away in the refinement? in the end times??
I believe the church has some severe lessons to learn in this time, and that's
why the church especially will go through refinement in light of truth as
prophesied by the Church fathers.
The only way to see if I am right is to verify the ancient places.
If I am wrong then I am wrong I would have to review, if I am right then the
church will have something to think about. I mean something to really think
about!!
See you don't know if I am right, you have not proved that yet.
The only way to shut me up is to go out there in the Persian Gulf to find
truth.
Actually are you sure that you shouldn't be repenting!! How do you know that I
am wrong?
Are you afraid and fearful of new and expanded truth!
One thing for sure I am not the enemy to Christianity nor of the Jewish
people, if anything I'm trying to help the people of Christianity and the
Jewish people.
If anything and in real truth, I should get a medal even though I have a crown
given by the Kingdom of Heaven. But I'm not interested in medals but only the
truth. Because truth is the highest ideal and I do this out of love which does
involve team work with the angels.
If all
hate the truth, I cant do anything about it, its up to them individually as we
are dealing with all things and that includes countries and other connected
faiths!
I say ahahahahahahahah this is huge and its only a matter of time where
everyone's arse is grass if they don't become aware and ignore through
judgement of what is happening!
Don't tell me to repent, I have already, I suggest you look into your heart
and all the evidence and information about the current change and scenario and
see how it fits in the end times.
The change is already happening as we speak.
The best thing for you and Christianity is to drop all the judgement and look
into the matter properly without reservation and honestly go through the
research and honestly share it with the congregation in the sincere way of
Jesus.
No one can be accountable for that I level motive! least of all me!
sevens
Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:49 am
I think there is a rapture and in its lays the
rebuke and makes everyone think.
After that everything happens as you say it happens.
I have found much evidence pointing Rapture, enlightenment and then if no one
listens and then passes it off then its Judgement of the Father.
First its enlightenment through truth and the demonstration of it for all man
and then its judgement of the unbelieving.
I think Rapture is part of the demonstration of truth and the backing and
support of the truth in the beforehand and I think the 1st and 2nd temples
have all to do with it.
Best thing to do is pray and spread the message and see what occurs!
sevens
posted
03-25-2008 08:12 PM
Me personally, I think something is definitely
going on as we find the truth of the matter in the journey, I feel enlightenment
and judgement works in parallel and its related to self realisation of oneself
and the everything that surrounds us in the journey.
From what Im finding in this journey that even if your hearted that is counted
for righteousness.
Personally, I think everyone here who is familiar and has been following these
threads wont have a problem even though we have different ideas on things.
But if we hold together with some form of faith which is individual and personal
we will all be OK and we don't have to prove to others of this faith, its purely
a personal thing.
I think friendship in all this amongst ourselves
is a very important even in light of the differences for its is the commonality
we share that will be successful.
Sevens
posted
03-25-2008 08:17 PM
Oi! Volitzer ahahahahahah
Where are you? What do you believe??
Sevens
posted
03-25-2008 08:24 PM
Hey Brig, I have no idea whats happening in that
crazy house of yours.
ahahahahahahahahahahahah
sevens
posted
03-26-2008 01:17 AM
Probably, I think that we will make
contact with the non breather people that live close by to us and it will be
part of the revealing. I think Mars and the moon will be part of that.
I wouldnt be surprised if this research touched a cord with them in truth,
through the Jesus tomb on to Mars, to the Vees and circles in triangles that
exist near the Face Cydonia.
I just may happen that the revealing will be the most shocking as in the truth
in the history of all mankind.
Sevens
Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:19 am
I just want to add that before the elect with the
Sons come back for the remnant the elect first have go through a translation.
In that translation I feel the elects genes are altered or enhanced to receive
the benefits of the fruit of the tree of life.
The elect, I feel are enabled to participate in the Judgement from heaven
perspective only through the rapture process which enables them to return with
the Sons when they come back for the remnant and this also enables the elect
to live in heaven before the judgement.
I'm not confident that there will be alot of the elect translated in the first
instance/process as I feel the church has more to learn, this can be witnessed
by the gross amount of division of Christianity guided by all kinds of
doctrines that are divisive today as seen on the forums alone and in the lack
of friendship and openness to discover.
Everyone is guarded ready to pounce on a different idea or thought even I
myself get defensive and go on the counter attack if someone has a go at my
ideas. Hey I'm only human ahahahahahah but is that really Jesus....NO not at
all so what spirit drives this division to keep people away from the truth,
through division??
That's why I feel there is no option for a rapture, then judgement because it
will stand by the truth that all individuals will experience! and then they
will know the truth and that will be the truth above anything else, a
redefining of religion from the Paradise/Kingdom of Heaven view, not from a
human view. We are like a little child going through the correction of the
rapture process.
This scenario sounds very logical and quite normal from Heaven prospective and
is confirmed in many books not just only the Bible. The record of this event
is really everywhere particularly in the Odes of Solomon where the whole story
lays of the end times.
But because we are taught in Bias against the books other than the bible by
our pastor, we don't look into these other books which do have the
complimenting information of Johns revelation. From what I see the
Rapture/judgement process is a fairly straight forward event with straight
forward purpose from the Kingdom of Heaven.
Also for the elect this is not some ego thing at all, it all to do with the
truth for us and for our brothers of the Spirit, the Zion, the spiritual
brotherhood of the brotherhood of man and Fatherhood of the Father in truth,
beauty and goodness. Its in this spirit only that this world can achieve one
world harmonised religion guided by Jesus our master and King. Yea! and that
does includes the nations.
But because we are taught in Bias against the books other than the bible by
our pastor, we don't look into these other books which do have the
complimenting information of Johns revelation. From what I see the
Rapture/judgement process is a fairly straight forward event with straight
forward purpose from the Kingdom of Heaven.
Also for the elect this is not some ego thing at all, it all to do with the
truth for us and for our brothers of the Spirit, the Zion, the spiritual
brotherhood of the brotherhood of man and Fatherhood of the Father in truth,
beauty and goodness.
We have tried the Lucifer way on this planet and look where it has led us,
division all over the place...everywhere! It gets to the point where all
things are based on material things and we are loosing the planet physically
because of that with no positive end on sight. There can never be a one world
Government or religion based on the standards we see today and it will not
change as it is inherent even in the genes.
The only way for this world to function in a stable way is through the
teachings of Jesus and focusing on him as our master and guide(Saviour) It is
a living experience daily and if all man was sincere to this we would have a
far better world with better people and our lives would be far better than
today.
I believe that Melchizedek is the Physical Saviour for this planet but Jesus
is the Spiritual Saviour and he would desire this as this enables Jesus to
function on a wide variety of spiritual levels of within on this planet and
beyond in the Kingdom of Heaven.
I really believe in this post here that rapture is a very normal and logical
option and it provides a perfect virtual teaching climate as in a personal
experience for all of us which teaches us the most. It is truly a living
mystery with living crowns of wisdom.
Our whole existence in the future will be real and we will all go through the
same faith test to find the Father through the teachings of Jesus old and new.
But this test is to be the greatest test for us in our eternal future and if
we pass the test with the faith of a simple child and honour the teachings of
Jesus in our lives towards one another then we are successful and truly the
victory is ours...today! not tomorrow!
I feel I'm seeing the construct of the end times with good perspective from
all sides and to me I feel positive that its the right construct and its
confirmed in numerous areas of the all the books and related to the first
times in the ancient submerged first cities.
Personally, this is long work and I am truly inspired in the whole journey. I
cant think of anything else, its really all I live for, there not much else
that inspires me. I'm pretty sure I'm not going to find a mutually connected,
going forward female partner, that would have to be the greatest bummer in
this journey, truly an on your own journey, perhaps it was better it happened
this way as I would of probably never found this mystery due to the
constraints imposed from others. I feel you could only find this being on your
own in the depths of the Abyss. It really becomes the Father and you and
that's about it. One thing the journey has been fantastic and just truly
tremendous, finding things each day that just compels me all the time, to seek
further through the books of religion.
Therefore, I cast my eyes to a companion of the Adamic violet race for a
partner, the holy race who are destined to return to this planet with the
elect. The only thing I could hope for is to meet a beautiful and loving
partner in heaven after rapture! and then return living of the tree of life
glowing a violet hue, the most beautiful hue! Having a large family and
rebuilding civilisation for the next thousand years walking the will of the
Father with my partner and our family.
Anyway Lobo, thats how I see it, I hope it gives a interesting perspective to
how I see it and sense it, the rapture process.
The only thing we can do is find the truth of the matter and actually go
through it and that will be the proof of all things.
If life was easy you just wouldn't look into this because there would be no
need but because we are looking for something better we put faith in religion
and in Jesus to show us the better way! I can say he has led me through the
books and its the only place I receive my strength to write all the time for
Jesus covering a myriad of things. The world saps my energy and there is no
congregation to draw strength from so I rely on the books of all the prophets
and seers that have relevance to the focalisation of the ancient places, the
Beginning. Its just a living experience for me and as I document it on the run
it can be seen in the physical in parallel in the images to the thanks to NASA
worldwind and its engineers.
I say praise the Lord for that living experience on the run daily not knowing
what will turn up that fills another piece of the puzzle. This is so subtle
and very directed all i can do in my limitations is just have faith in the
inner experience in what I find that connects to the mystery! Its gotta be the
Seventh mystery! There could be no other explanation to the journey and all
the discoveries!
Quote:
Act 8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of
the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no
more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
Act 8:40 But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he
preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.
The above could also apply to this scenario in metaphor!
This could be a type to the end times, the spirit of the Lord whisking the
elect away only to reappear preaching whatever is the good news of the day. In
the end times perspective, I would see them as the elect being translated or
altered to receive the benefits of the tree of life and then coming back with
Jesus in glory preaching the good news of the day.
Also noticed one was translated and the other remained. Not unlike in this
scenario. Both in both cases the eunuch was rejoicing because Philip
reappeared came back but this time preaching all the good news to all the
cities and nations on the great day. Omni present return! including the
revealment of Paradise and perhaps another race of people that lives near our
sphere in this solar system and this could be related to Mars and the Moon.
Jesus did have other flocks.
All the best
Sevens
posted
03-26-2008 11:18 P
Hi
Sarmast was no hoax he established many things written of 1stEden, the
Atlantis of the Med.
I fully support what he did, he did a remarkable job!
ahahahahahahahaha
Sevens
Hi isaeyeallseeing
I thought that was interesting, another person on this forum Qoasis had similar
ideas to yourself with the Herodotus mount being Atlantis or 1stEden.
Personally, I think Sarmasts 1Eden/Atlantis fits better and has support of the
UB and other books that point to this location.
The only way is to go out there and find out. find some anomalies, do a scan see
if there is a city. All I know in 1stEden of the UB there is a wall confirmed,
there is an acropolis that 3 rings that connects with other cities and there is
some more anomalies to the east near the entrance of the peninsula.
Although I say this I'm very interested in your thoughts, curious and interested
in your journey.
Sevens
posted
03-27-2008 02:44 AM
Ahh just joking about Nikas he is a
good friend
Hey I developed this link Dalamatia City Radio broadcast from the
Submerged Headquarters of the Planet, the realm of Paradise . The link
below leads to its first test broadcast. ahaha!
I was hoping to share the link so you can test it.
Its a couple songs that I thought the lyrics where interesting and
metaphorically relevant.
I suppose its exploring the possibilities. The general format would be anything
that would resemble truth, beauty and goodness. I suppose it could be all genres
but it would have to good to listen to and sound good.
All the best and enjoy the smooth sounds of Dalamatia City ah.
ahahahahah
Sevens
Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:17 am
Hey Jimmy I liked your post. Yes I believe that
the end is coming soon. The scriptures you use really tells it all
Quote:
Matthew 7: 13 – 14 "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is
the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is
the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it."
How true in the above if you view it from rapture point of view. Just looking
at this in relation to the submerged cities and the gates on the website
leading to its knowledge. "But small is the gate and narrow the road
that leads to life, and only a few find it." The Gates of the City on
the website is small and few find it eh! Hard to find and not many people know
about it!! and this ""But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to
life" The gates, road and the city, the road being the branches and path
leading to the city and research. The Gates leading to life, the tree of life!
and this fragment in the bold
Quote:
A day of reckoning is coming, but until then
the life and work of the Church must grow and mature with weeds in its
midst. Jesus summed it up quite bluntly when He told His first followers
that not everyone who called Him 'Lord' would He recognize as His
own, but only those who did the Will of God through the regeneration of
their minds (Matthew 7, verses 15 through 27; Titus, Chapter 3,
verses 1 through 11).
Yes I agree that many will say the name of Jesus but Jesus wont recognize them
because they rejected the truth in the first place. Never looked into the
matter and when he means regeneration, spiritual regeneration and that must
infer a revelation of the Father and a demonstration of the new expanded
Gospel when all things come into fruition. A record of the journey with
discovery and a demonstration in tandem, in parallel to the journey and
thoughts in the document.
One thing for sure I now it will be like in the days of Noah, that for sure,
undoubtedly!
There is no doubt about that and everyone will under estimate this at the
wrong time because it came from a nothing source in their view only to realize
after it has occurred. You know this could happen right now, tonight, at
anytime in the spiritual flux on the planet! I really believe it will happen
that way, in a flash and being a few people disappearing, it will get hushed
up in the media and whitewashed but the church will know and all kinds of
declarations will come out, like closing ranks of all religions. But even then
people wont know the truth only the few and who are they??
Yeah! who are they I wonder and who are the witnesses then? eh! if this record
is right and things occur in accordance to the Fathers will. Who is going to
spread the message to the rest of the people.
Sevens
posted
03-28-2008 02:59 PM
ahahahahah
Well looks like its over to Ishtars place at the end of the rainbow.
Ishtar, Hope you got plenty of room for the Atlantis Rising pot of gold
recipients.
Should be a treat.
ahahahaha
Sevens
posted
03-28-2008 03:11 PM
quote:
Mountain of thunder
Mountain infers Volcanic Action, if you could
locate an recently extinct volcano in the Saudi Arabian North Western Area or
even in the Sinai, then you would find the place of the Israelites.
I believe that the real Sinai was in Midian near where Wyattt speaks of.
Sevens
posted
03-28-2008 03:48 PM
So the light bulbs are still missing?
If they are missing that is unusual. There aren't to many places where could
place the bag in the room and loose the bag.
Well if its a pheonomena with a message attached the only thing I can think of
in metaphor is that bulb are related to light and light in the spiritual world
is truth.
Maybe its an event to highlight light of truth in metaphor. I would say people
on this forum would be more spiritual minded and there would be close to
pheonomena like this.
That's if its a time pheonomena being used with the right components with
literal meaning like in Light bulbs associated with light and light is connected
to truth.
Even if I focalize it within my journey to the ancient places.
The Light bulbs are missing in a point of time. Light bulbs represents light and
missing light bulbs represent missing light. Like light disappearing in a flash.
Could it be a metaphor for rapture? I ask.
We may have difference in idea but could this be one confirming the other for
the benefit of mutual realisation.
I just wonder ahahahah! I just wonder whether this is subtle message from the
midwayers from things that are happening with you. But now are providing better
definition.
I mean its got to be something outstanding like time shift in the timeline of
physical items that have metaphor being displaced. Not every little thing that
happens in a persons normal life that becomes ridiculous.
I wonder if the the Midwayer is work with you in a way that you find interesting
but at the same time providing a message. You provide the scenario we try to
find meaning in the current conversation.
In reflection this process could be a way the Midwayers part of the physical and
spiritual worlds is a process in which a communication can be established.
Through time shift, manipulation of the timeline in relation to some with
meaning and metaphor and something you would notice.
Its worth exploring as this journey is nothing but exploration on a hunch,
discovery and verification and if this is correct it would be a connection to
the current thoughts.
Fair Dinkum, Brig I hope this is right.
What a breakthrough if it is where you become involved in the verification. What
a thought to ponder including all these timeline/time shift events with
metaphor.
What a way to communicate to the world.
Just some thoughts to help.
Anyway go by your heart and your soul that's the best guide from within the
residence of the Holy Spirit.
Ok, if the bulbs are still missing and they turn up in an unusual place than
observe the place and what metaphor it provides in connection to what you know
of the journey and what's the current converse is.
Mind you Brig, this is not my field man and Im running into unknown territory
here when it concerns other people and there timeline
experience. In my case I have encountered this all the time through the books in
this journey.
Where I would get a hunch following something, then I would write about it and
then I would discover it in the books confirmed after the fact but seen in the
beforehand by the prophets. Stuff like that. It would be like this . But I just
did that!! or that's what I'm doing now! or that just reflects what I just spoke
about. Many types different realizations in the experience.
Its been full of it and that's what drives me on as it appears to be alive and
full of timeline things a living experience with the Angels in uncovering the
worlds greatest mystery ever and documented for the future.
You know even your post brings back a thought I had a few days ago that many
unusual things may happen to many people as we closer to the timeline of rapture
and change.
Unusual things that are so subtle but with meaning that the individual could
only understand in there own thought process. Maybe things happen to people with
things of timeline, all brought about by the midwayers that bring this whole
subject to its final consummation through individual experiences like these but
personal and in the way they would understand.
Like miracle things that happen as in the crescendo of the rapture process. From
what I see in rapture, the ones taken are the faith few that embrace the small
and narrow gate that leads to the city and the reserve corp of destiny. which
only number just over a thousand I think. Not to many.
It could be that this initial elect rapture process is very strict in this first
process.
It could be that all these things are in metaphor to the end. I know Im going on
a hunch and what I feel when I write this and I hope I am write and that should
become apparent!
Sevens
posted
03-28-2008 05:33 PM
Hey thanks Brig, Im sure these books are
interesting but Im to focused on this journey currently and I dint think I would
read them. However Im sure there are truth fragments in them that connect some
how plus Im a Kangaroo. ahahahahahah
Actually in the following is big news for me and again confirms the Urantia Book
as an authentic document.
quote:
Quote:
Still, there are similarities between the two and this along with other
archaeological evidence, suggests southern Europe did in fact begin to be
colonized from western Asia not long after humans emerged from Africa —
"something which many of us would have doubted even five years ago," Stringer
said.
Quote:
63:5.1 The early Andon races did not penetrate very far into Asia, and they
did not at first enter Africa. The geography of those times pointed them
north, and farther and farther north these people journeyed until they were
hindered by the slowly advancing ice of the third glacier.
63:5.2 Before this extensive ice sheet reached France and the British Isles,
the descendants of Andon and Fonta had pushed on westward over Europe and had
established more than one thousand separate settlements along the great rivers
leading to the then warm waters of the North Sea.
I think this is a big verification and is related
to the truth driving this mission of truth and its connections with science.
All the best everyone.
Sevens
posted
03-28-2008 05:51 PM
ahahahaha I just gotta laugh what else
is there to do. Waiting and writing ahahahahah going dingy and batty!
Hey Calvin, why is it when I reply to your posts
promptly a week later you reply, is it that when you feel frustrated you
come here, on a whim?
Bit of a kick here and there, see if the thing still moves. You know! Kick
here, have a nosey! give it a jab, a poke in the gut, see if the thing is
still alive!
Snap! or Flash! meaning rapture
oh the thing is alive! OH! but what did we miss??
Here is a post on the endtimes that I thought was applicable and remember if
this journey is the truth in the final outcome and you are left behind being
presumptuous then you would have to be one of the witness of this
information and that will be the test. I stand by my experience in this
whole process as I have delivered some runs on the board. I to, am bold but
I walk in total faith like the Father requires with him through the example
of Jesus.
You will simply have to
spread the word to your congregation of the witness which may highlight a
few things about leadership!
Hey Jimmy I liked your post. Yes I believe that the end is coming soon.
The scriptures you use really tells it all
Quote
Matthew 7: 13 – 14 "Enter
through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the
road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.
But small is the gate and narrow the road
that leads to life, and only a few find it."
How true in the above if you view it from rapture point of view. Just
looking at this in relation to the submerged cities and the gates on the
website leading to its knowledge. "But small is the gate and narrow the
road that leads to life, and only a few find it." The Gates of the
City on the website is small and few find it eh! Hard to find and not
many people know about it!! and this ""But small is the gate and
narrow the road that leads to life" The gates to the city where the
tree of life was once kept back in our ancient History. All the beginning
places and the revealment of them over a few years.?!
and this fragment in the bold
Quote
A
day of reckoning is coming, but until then the life and work of the Church
must grow and mature with weeds in its midst. Jesus summed it up quite
bluntly when He told His first followers that not everyone who called
Him 'Lord' would He recognize as His own, but only those who did the Will
of God through the regeneration of their minds (Matthew 7, verses 15
through 27; Titus, Chapter 3, verses 1 through 11).
Yes I agree that many will say the name of Jesus but Jesus wont recognize
them because they rejected the truth in the first place. Never looked into
the matter and when he means regeneration, spiritual regeneration and that
must infer a revelation of the Father and a demonstration of the new
expanded Gospel when all things come into fruition. A record of the journey
with discovery and a demonstration in tandem, in parallel to the journey
and thoughts in the document.
One thing for sure I now it will be like in the days of Noah, that for sure,
undoubtedly!
There is no doubt about that and everyone will under estimate this at the
wrong time because it came from a nothing source in their view only to
realize after it has occurred. You know this could happen right now,
tonight, at anytime in the spiritual flux on the planet! I really believe
it will happen that way, in a flash and being a few people disappearing, it
will get hushed up in the media and whitewashed but the church will know and
all kinds of declarations will come out, like closing ranks of all
religions. But even then people wont know the truth only the few and who
are they??
Yeah! who are they I wonder and who are the witnesses then? eh! if this
record is right and things occur in accordance to the Fathers will. Who is
going to spread the message to the rest of the people.
If by chance this journey is the final out come then who will be here to
verify the ancient places. This where the ancient places could used for
wrong purposes and whoever goes there and discovers it be aware thats all I
say. As you know the discover is not intimate with the journey and there is
only one record that can be relied upon. This record is for Jesus and
driven by Jesus and the Holy Spirit and is certainly dedicated to the Father
in Paradise as a joint effort of man and the Father working together in the
witness of itself that brings forth the fruits from the beginning from the
cities.
Is that enough to unify man and religion no! thats why a demonstration has
to occur for it to be complete that all witness. So they know! and witness!
then there will be the missing reported but I dont think it will be many.
I know it will be the reserve Corp of Destiny that will be gone which
numbers over 1000 and increasing. The ones who know the final scenario and
go with faith in the beforehand without having to give anything away except
wrong motives would be included. Those left behind where either too busy
and rejected the final outcome and this is reason for the verification of
the truth of the matter after the rapture process and this is where religion
closes ranks and formulates a new strategy??
I feel that rapture will occur like a Flash/Gone event and possibly
associated with a loud thunder clap that you have never ever heard before,
it envelopes the whole planet. But I'm sure no one gets hurt!
Hey, I'm willing to for go the physical discovery of the cities of myself if
it helps to get to the truth of the matter and completes the end time
scenario. However, Just remember the first record and trail that was
created through all the books of religion including a new book that led to
the discovery.
and again
Quote
Matthew 7: 13 – 14 "Enter
through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the
road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.
But small is the gate and narrow the road
that leads to life, and only a few find it."
Isn't that so true in relation to the end times scenario, the entry way to
the city of life is a real narrow way barely getting through the gates and
its paths and branches just like to the submerged cities and where only a
few find it in the end times. In amongst all that is said in the doctrines
of man about the end times only a few find it and believe it and have faith
in it in the beforehand!
Only few find it, not many like I have always been saying!
Anyway the raptured will be groomed in heaven for the coming back and for
the destiny of mankind after the day of the Lord and the day of the Lord can
be over a period of time. The Day of the Lord and its beginning would be
signified by rapture!
and this fragment that I just happen to,
meant to run over...
Quote:
"The brotherhood of men is founded
on the fatherhood of God. The family of God is derived from the love of
God—God is love. God the Father divinely loves his children, all of them.
The kingdom of heaven, the divine government, is founded on the fact of
divine sovereignty—God is spirit. Since God is spirit, this kingdom is
spiritual. The kingdom of heaven is neither
material nor merely intellectual;it is
a spiritual relationship between God and man.
If different religions recognize the spirit
sovereignty of God the Father, then will all such religions remain
at peace. Only when one religion assumes that it is
in some way superior to all others, and
that it possesses exclusive authority over other religions, will such a
religion presume to be intolerant of other religions or dare to persecute
other religious believers. Religious peace—brotherhood—can
never exist unless all religions are willing to completely divest
themselves of all ecclesiastical authority and fully surrender all concept
of spiritual sovereignty. God alone is spirit sovereign.
You cannot have equality among religions
(religious liberty) without having religious wars unless all religions consent to the transfer of
all religious sovereignty to some superhuman level, to God himself.
The kingdom of heaven in the hearts of men will create
religious unity (not necessarily
uniformity) because any and all religious groups composed of such
religious believers will be free from all notions of ecclesiastical
authority—religious sovereignty. God is spirit,
and God gives a fragment of his spirit self to dwell in the heart of man.
Spiritually, all men are equal.The
kingdom of heaven is free from castes, classes, social levels, and
economic groups. You are all brethren.
But the moment you lose sight of the spirit sovereignty of God the Father,
some one religion will begin to assert its superiority over other
religions; and then, instead of peace on earth
and good will among men, there will start dissensions, recriminations,
even religious wars, at least wars among religionists. Freewill
beings who regard themselves as equals, unless they mutually acknowledge
themselves as subject to some supersovereignty, some authority over and
above themselves, sooner or later are tempted to
try out their ability to gain power and authority over other persons and
groups. The concept of equality never
brings peace except in the mutual recognition of some overcontrolling
influence of supersovereignty." The Urantia Book. 134.4.1
The above was most revealing and true! In essence it out lines the spiritual
Government of Jesus! The brotherhood of man and Fatherhood of the Father and
simply tells us where we go wrong today!
Sevens
Member
Member # 3037
posted
03-28-2008 10:09 PM
yeah! no worries ILL stick with the
King James to.
Just remember this from the KJV
quote:
Matthew 7: 13 – 14 "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the
road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is
the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
"
Yeah man!!! if there is no contact from me for
2 months on any forum then I suggest you download all you can of this journey!
May be! unless I'm in hospital or something! But if it unusual take note if
I'm right an event would mark the beginning process.
If something like this happens the it was the
truth and then you will witness many things and then at the same time the old
men will dream dreams and the young men will see visions because that would
mark the latter day rain of truth and knowledge in the event and there will be
upheavals on all levels of every level.
Maybe we have underestimated this all together and how big this really is??
The locations in my mind are not just cities big deal they are a big deal to
the universe and these ancient places and the journey to them in the discovery
of them physically through the books holds the full gravity of Paradise and of
its contention. What ever is said about it in truth will simply come to pass
by the will of the father not through doctrine but in his way??
ahaahhahahaha got keep up the laughs!
all the best
sevens
posted
03-28-2008 10:32 PM
Hey I would expect an article in the
next edition of the magazine after rapture! That would be something, The
nameless man, Sevens who came by, walked around the place for a while, found
what he came for, left a record of his walks and just vanished but then after
his words and record came true about the end from beginning places that where
verified and that's when the end came in truth ahahahahahah! that's a laugh.
It could start like this:
quote:
Once a upon a time there was this bloke
called Sevens who just dropped by.....ahahahahah....now this guy....
Ahh having a laugh just joking...nothing to do
except write and wait! ahaha!
sevens
Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:40 am More thoughts
on Nostradamus and the end times construct.
Hi
I would watch the video but as you do just focalize on the ancient places
and the journey. I was fascinated with the documentary and I could see much
commonality with this journey.
Here is video compile of the Lost Books of Nostradamus 2012 and
Ophiuchus 1 to 3
Towards the end of the video, take note of one male given
in English. Also not the opinion that the written for the person bringing
the end through the truth and written in English knowing that it would come
from a English speaking country.
The images are very intriguing of the end time construct and personally I
think its about this journey.
Farout, the book where "one male" is written in English lays next to the
page where the tree of life is drawn and that means the revealing of 1stEden
and the other sites, even expressed by the commentator. That directly
relates being of the tree of life this journey, to the ancient places, to
the end times prophecy according to the images found in the lost books of
Nostradamus.
Its a definite match where the information about 1stEden comes out of a
English speaking nation from the "One Male". and note the
one male wearing the crown which is also related to the crowns being all the
ancient places.
Note that change comes from the books about the tree of life that reveals
everything in the universe. Comes from the one male and its reveals Eden as
the commentator said. Its a whole picture of now.
This image is number 67
Here is a close up of 67, note that it all comes from out of the books!!
I think its related to the revealing the whole truth.
And note the wheel and the 3 halfmoons. Would that be connected to the 3 co
planar circles? The location all forming a oneness on the planet in the
discovery and the truth?
With this symbol notice the 3 symbols in Heaven and on earth, the connection
between the first and second temples including the Vans highland city they
are all connected by the 3 co planar circles. Note in Heaven as on earth as
in the half moon symbols which to me relate to the again, the co planar
circles. Also note how in Heaven as on Earth we have the commonality of the
symbols. The 3 symbols in Heaven appears to be projecting truth on Earth
pointing to one spot. Like it all comes from one location or many close
location but in oneness, in truth of each other therefore making a Tipura!
Where the 3 cities become one!
I also concur that the scorpion is does represent the location of where this
truth comes from, between Scorpio and Sagittarius and that where the centre
of the universe is and that is also confirmed in the UB. Where Jesus live or
Michael is in the constellation of Sagittarius. Exactly where this alignment
is going to happen. Apparently this where Nostradamus has his 13th sign.
Everything might come out of this spot, this location from the universe.
It could very well be that rapture maybe soon and then there is a short
period of major instability and after that time time of real test something
emanates from that place between Scorpio and Sagittarius being the centre of
the universe!. It seems right in the timing and in the logic!
Here was another symbol that intrigued me.
Its interesting that the 3 co planar stars are in this image. Does the 3 co
planar stars here symbolize the trinity and also representative of the co
planar circles of the beginning temples of the Father and the truth behind
it which causes the downfall of the dragon in the lake of Fire through a
revealing that coordinates from space. The moon has 5 stars in it people
tend to think its Islam but maybe it means something else, thinking about
it.
Back to the images
Ok in the following count the spokes around the sun and the separately count
the sun rays in between Seven or Sevens, two Sevens.
Don't you find that interesting that the Sevens could be related to the sun
by the amount of common rays and spokes which are equal Sevens in
there respective number. That's from what I can see and the sun could
also mean communication of this book through the internet reaching the whole
planet.
and then you have the Ark of the End Times
I strongly believe it is all about this journey to the ancient places and
what it represents in the way of truth as also backed up in the discovery in
the images but has to be verified. The One Male looks separated and on his
own working it out.
I tell there is so much of Nostradamus that is true in relation to this
journey!
And again the ark is related to a book of "One Male" and it serves as a
warning and when the document of the journey is complete then it happens.
And note when the book or the witness is finished then there is no more ark
and the 8 pointed symbol is broken leaving a ragged circle.
The following symbol apparently means time has ended, there is no more. I
believe that is when the book is complete, the journey to the ancient places
is complete or at least as far as it could go considering all the
circumstances that surround its journey!.
But this transformed new symbol symbolizes
unity like a new era unlike the divided circle of this age which is destined
to become a previous age.
Now here is some quatrains with earlier 07 interpretation that I feel
compliment the above images and it could lead to the "One Male"
Quote:
Quote
95
The realm left to two they will hold it very briefly,
Three years and seven months passed by they will make war:
The two Vestals will rebel in opposition, Victor the younger
in the land of
Brittany.
The Younger, The Young, the victor!! mmmmm 3 years and seven months!
intriguing. I'm just thinking about the discovery of Atlantis book
proclamation, November 2003 plus 3 years and seven months around June 2007
or if you go based on the 1st Expedition its around June 2008. And we are
in a virtual war, religious war. Also in the land of Brittany. Could also
mean in "a colony of Britain", Land of Brittany = colony
of Brittany in this timeline. Britain taking the name of Brittany?
Intriguing to say the least. Could be Australia, the land of Sinim. I'm
sure it is.
Its interesting The Younger in word has relationship with Javan who were
the pre Greeks and the Javan are the descendants of the Adamson
civilisation. Also Henri 1st was called "the Younger" that was the Father
of Richard, the Lionheart and not to mention the relationship of these
places to the Holy Grail myth which has connection with Jamshids Cup which
reflects Van who built 1stEden
and this part
Quote:
Quote:
C 2 Q 28 The moon in the middle of the night . . . On that night in the
western Pacific on the flight deck of the MV Adriatic Sea,
drifting with a full moon on a still night inspired to find the ancient
places. Looking yonder in the silvery moon of the night. The young sage alone with his mind has
seen it. (Seen the path, the truth and the construct) His disciples invite him to become immortal . . . (invited to
partake of the tree of life by the angels.) His body in the fire. (translation fire passing through to the next
dimension of existence, the Angelic realm.)
Again the common word in The Younger or the Young or Victor the Young. In
any case I believe the Sage who saw it one night is a the Young and points
to his name. But there is another twist, the identity is in another
language. The identity of the One Male. Its interesting how Dalamatia City
has direct connection in name to the province of Dalamatia within the
Adriatic Sea!
Mysterious
And another thing that the bloodline of one of parents of the the younger
comes from this area Aquitaine/Navarro which part of Southern France. In
this same areas of the Templar. I find that incredible!
all the best
Sevens
I wonder if this anything
to do with digging for the truth the revealing of the truth of the matter.
The splitting of the moon
The 54th Surah of the Qur'an is called 'Surat
al-Qamar.' In English qamar means moon. In several instances, this Surah tells
about the destruction that befell the people of Nuh, Ad, Thamud, Lut and
Pharaoh, because they rejected the warnings of the prophets. At the same time,
there is a very important message stated in the first verse, concerning the
Last Day.
The Hour has drawn near and the
moon has split. (Surat al-Qamar: 1)
The word 'split' used in this verse is the
Arabic shaqqa, which in Arabic it has various meanings. In some commentaries
on the Qur'an, the meaning 'split' is preferred. But shaqqa in Arabic can also
mean 'ploughing' or 'digging' the earth.
Here is another audio video about the beasts and the end times. The speaker
makes reference to Daniel and a vision he had at night and documented it. (Is
that similar to the documentation of the vision and verses found in the bible
and books about the first places?) Daniel said in his vision that he saw a
scroll come out of the sea and the four beasts came out after the scroll. Is
that the description of the documentation of the journey to beginning places,
the scroll originates from the sea, to the places through the books. The truth
comes from the sea.
I was wondering that Daniels prophecy and documentation of the journey could
be related to the submerged places. But check this out...What if
there was a rapture after the scroll was made that came up
from the sea, the truth of the city and the Seven commands but before the
verification and what if after rapture the truth of the matter was located and
researched. After getting a hint of the truth the UN launched an expedition
and verified the city and confirmed everything and based upon the findings a
new agreement was made that was prophesied in revelations?
And what about the flying scroll and the book
in the hand of the angel with one foot on the land and the other in the sea.
Sevens
posted
03-30-2008 12:38 AM
Ego your complaining about. Its about the
research inst it. Personally, its Georgeous that operates from the ego thing who
cares about being on top when its the truth that counts??
sevens
Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:10 am
Now here is a fragment from the UB of the first
Sermon of Jesus in the Synagogue.
I feel that within the delivery of the sermon he was also looking at the end
times.
Quote:
4. FIRST SERMON IN THE SYNAGOGUE
With the coming of his fifteenth birthday, Jesus could officially occupy the
synagogue pulpit on the Sabbath day. Many times before, in the absence of
speakers, Jesus had been asked to read the Scriptures, but now the day had
come when, according to law, he could conduct the service. Therefore on the
first Sabbath after his fifteenth birthday the chazan arranged for Jesus to
conduct the morning service of the synagogue. And when all the faithful in
Nazareth had assembled, the young man, having made his selection of
Scriptures, stood up and began to read:
"The spirit of the Lord God is upon me, for the Lord has anointed me; he has
sent me to bring good news to the meek, to bind up the brokenhearted, to
proclaim liberty to the captives, and to set the spiritual prisoners free; to
proclaim the year of God's favor and the day of our God's reckoning; to
comfort all mourners, to give them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy in the
place of mourning, a song of praise instead of the spirit of sorrow, that they
may be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the
Lord, wherewith he may be glorified.
Page 1392"Seek good and not evil that you
may live, and so the Lord, the God of hosts, shall be with you. Hate
the evil and love the good; establish judgment in
the gate. Perhaps the Lord God will be
gracious to the remnant of Joseph.
"Wash yourselves, make yourselves clean; put away the evil of your doings from
before my eyes; cease to do evil and learn to do good; seek justice, relieve
the oppressed. Defend the fatherless and plead for the widow.
"Wherewith shall I come before the Lord, to bow myself before the Lord of all
the earth? Shall I come before him with burnt offerings, with calves a year
old? Will the Lord be pleased with thousands of rams, ten thousands of sheep,
or with rivers of oil? Shall I give my first-born for my transgression, the
fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? No! for the Lord has showed us, O
men, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you but to deal
justly, love mercy, and walk humbly with your God?
"To whom, then, will you liken God who sits upon the circle of the
earth? Lift up your eyes and behold who has created all these worlds,
who brings forth their host by number and calls them all by their
names. He does all these things by the greatness of his might, and
because he is strong in power, not one fails. He gives power to the weak, and
to those who are weary he increases strength. Fear not, for I am with you; be
not dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and I will help
you; yes, I will uphold you with the right
hand of my righteousness, for I am the Lord
your God. And I will hold your right hand, saying to you, fear not, for I will
help you.
"And you are my witness, says the Lord, and my servant whom I
have chosen that all may know and believe me and understand that I am the
Eternal. I, even I, am the Lord, and beside me there is no savior."
And when he had thus read, he sat down, and the people went to their homes,
pondering over the words which he had so graciously read to them. Never had
his townspeople seen him so magnificently solemn; never had they heard his
voice so earnest and so sincere; never had they observed him so manly and
decisive, so authoritative.
This Sabbath afternoon Jesus climbed the Nazareth hill with James and, when
they returned home, wrote out the Ten Commandments in Greek on two smooth
boards in charcoal. Subsequently Martha colored and decorated these boards,
and for long they hung on the wall over James's small workbench.
Now it was this part that got me going
Quote:
Page 1392"Seek
good and not evil that you may live, and so the Lord, the God of hosts,
shall be with you. Hate the evil and love the good;
establish judgment in the gate. Perhaps the
Lord God will be gracious to the remnant of Joseph.
"Wash yourselves, make yourselves clean; put
away the evil of your doings from before my eyes; cease to do evil and learn
to do good; seek justice, relieve the oppressed. Defend the fatherless and
plead for the widow.
Particularly this part. "establish judgment in the
gate. Perhaps the Lord God will be gracious to
the remnant of Joseph." In my focalisation all I can say is that I do
have gates leading to the cities of ancient times on my website
"establish judgment in the gate" The gates on my website which have
paths and links of truth that lead to the beginning places and is all related to
judgement of man and his attitude! and then this part "Perhaps the Lord
God will be gracious to the remnant of Joseph" To me this relates
directly to the end times and the remnant of faith and truth of today. The
remnant of Joseph could be non other than the raptured and the remnant of the
judgement process . I believe the rapture(first fruits) is before the
tribulation and judgement and is where I feel the (refined large one church of
Jesus) will be saved as the elect(first fruits) with the Paradise family
including Jesus comes back and the faithless will just vanish never to be seen
again. I feel that will be the process.
The above seems to be very strong clue for today. I'm so sure Jesus was speaking
to us now, then and that why people went away pondering what he was saying. The
simply they did not understand what he was talking about because the message,
yes of them but perhaps more for us knowing that the scribe of the end times
would come by this.
Masterful and foreseeing, knowing the end then and sent a message for us today
it whilst in the journey to the discovery of the ancient places.
Sevens
Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:27 am The Angona System, Wormwood, Nibiru the approach,
continue through the other related threads as there is much more in this
study.
Here is one of PlanetX could this be the great threat and could be related to
the dark space body that helped form this Solar System mentioned in the UB.
and here is another fragment about the Angona
System
Quote:
Although Angona succeeded in drawing away the
ancestral material of the solar system planets and the enormous volume of
matter now circulating about the sun as asteroids and meteors, it did not
secure for itself any of this solar matter. The visiting system
did not come quite close enough to actually steal any of the sun's
substance, but it did swing sufficiently close to draw off
into the intervening space all of the material comprising the present-day
solar system.
So this Angona is an orbital swing relates to the Sun and orbits in deep space
perhaps only to return with its planets to cause havoc?? By the looks of it,
it does have an effect on our solar system.
mmmm interesting, Is Angona related to PlanetX? and is this planet related to
the end times?? Could be a strong possibility.
To me the Angona System (with its planets and
tributaries) is the Brown Dwarf that is described in the above video of
PlanetX
and here is the UB account.
Quote:
4,500,000,000 years ago the
enormous Angona system began its approach to the
neighborhood of this solitary sun. The center of this great system
was a dark giant of space, solid, highly charged, and possessing
tremendous gravity pull.
This is where our doomsday might come from, through polar shift due to this
failed sun make a close approach affecting our earth, this is where the earth
is rocked on its foundations.
Im sure the PlanetX/Angona is the companion to our Solar System. That was interesting!
Is this representative of Judgement day?? Its definitely a dark space body
like a brown dwarf which have planets planets orbiting around the brown dwarf
and does swing by the earth! This is another reason for rapture, to avoid this
tribulation which may result in Polar shift!
This could be the confirmation of what is to come on all levels. I also
remember that it expected to be here in 2012, 4 years time but I have to
confirm that.
Here is a confirmation from the UB of the angle of the Angona orbit in
relation to our sun plain and explains the retrograde planet and angles of
orbit around it planet.
Quote:
The planets do not swing around the sun in the equatorial plane of their
solar mother, which they would do if they had been thrown off by
solar revolution. Rather, they travel in the plane of the
Angona solar extrusion, which existed at a considerable
angle to the plane of the sun's equator.
and here is a little more that fills the gaps of the Angona System with
PlanetX/Nibiru
Quote:
While Angona was unable to capture any of the solar mass, your sun did
add to its metamorphosing planetary family some of the circulating
space material of the visiting system. Due to the
intense gravity field of Angona, its
tributary planetary familypursued orbits of considerable distance from the
dark giant; and shortly after the extrusion of the solar
system ancestral mass and while Angona was yet in the vicinity of the sun,
three of the major planets of the Angona system swung so near to the
massive solar system ancestor that its gravitational pull,
augmented by that of the sun, was sufficient to overbalance the gravity
grasp of Angona and to permanently detach these three tributaries of
the celestial wanderer.
The above fits all the pieces of the Angona system as the Nibiru, it matches
in all details. I can see all the characteristics in the image above of the
Angona System.
And in this part demonstrates that the Angona system does have some far away
orbit of the Sun as demonstrated over time swinging ever closer to the Sun.
Quote:
As the
Angona system drew nearer, the solar extrusions grew larger and
larger; more and more matter was drawn from the sun to become independent
circulating bodies in surrounding space. This situation
developed for about five hundred thousand years until Angona made its
closest approach to the sun;
whereupon the sun, in conjunction with one of its periodic internal
convulsions, experienced a partial disruption; from opposite sides and
simultaneously, enormous volumes of matter were disgorged. From
the Angona side there was drawn out a vast
column of solar gases, rather pointed at both ends and markedly bulging at
the center, which became permanently detached from the immediate
gravity control of the sun.
There you have it our Angona wandering and visiting system which periodically
visits us and causes havoc!! Confirmed in the UB and seen in the image.
I disagree with you utterly and I say let the Lord be the judge.
Least I show facts and discovery. Also if I where you I would get your church
and prepare for the visitation of the Angona System!!!
This will be our demise particularly for those who reject truth.
This is what rapture is for. Still remember the standard for rapture.
No judgement! Listen to the Lords words and learn!
Also now that we have a good idea what's install for us, I would suggest drop
all the judgement and worry about your congregation with the truth. I found
this the Christian church never did OK. That's because I look at everything
with an open mind within my focalization to the places of the Lord from the
Past. OK!
Is that OK Calvin?? ahahahahahah
All our arses are grass if we don't get our spiritual selves in order and that
means not to judge! but instead look at yourself and review! and that's In
light of this impending disaster with the visitation of the Angona System.
Nibiru or Planet X.
So get ready man and Calvin, this is the call!
There is utterly no deception here its only me getting on with the job in
finding and knowing the mind of the Father. So now is the time to get
the act together and start warning people.
The truth is here and this is the demise we
have to look forward to and brought to you by other truth seekers and verified
in the Urantia Book and which is also in Revelation in case you don't know
ahahahahahahahahah.
No time for silly talk pointing the finger,
that's a waste of time, its the time for review Calvin or have you become
stiffed necked in light of the truth, the great test for you.
This is the great demise looking right at you
in the images and this Angona System when it visits will destroy the Babylon
System as we know it!!
Now we know why the Father has an escape plan
such as rapture! for the faithful and those who embrace truth and nothing but!
False prophet, my arse...rubbish you dont know
what you talking about! I'm no false prophet all I am doing is telling the
truth.
Thank you My Father for Rapture of the elect
and the faithful. The great escape the gift for being faithful and truthful in
light of truth with sincerity in truth.
This planet is in BIG trouble! I can see this coming a mile away! Now I can
see the why and who will be saved. Selfish Arse holes will not be saved in
this scenario and reality! That is for sure! now that our demise is front of
us.
Calvin, if you don't get it together in truth
you are in BIG trouble! man!
We are face to face with the truth and do we
run to the hills or do we embrace with spiritual and physical preparation??
EH! EH!!
Calvin here is a link that you find interesting
and may help you understand.
Quote
7. Techniques of terrestrial escape. There is fundamentally only one way
in which individual human life can be initiated on the inhabited worlds,
and that is through creature procreation and natural birth; but there are
numerous techniques whereby man escapes his terrestrial status and gains
access to the inward moving stream of Paradise ascenders.
Hey I was wondering if you went through the Angona info in the 2nd above post.
If you have what did you think?
Our arse is grass and now I know the necessity of rapture and how imminent it
is.
I tell you when this Angona system makes it close approach to our solar system
this planet will be destroyed including the system.
That is for sure. No one will stand!
All the prophets and seers speak of this and now we can see it.
We can see our demise!! right in our faces! and which backs all the words
spoken.
If man does not listen now he is a fair dinkum idiot!
cheers
sevens
posted
03-31-2008 12:05 AM
Hey Wirelessguru
I think larger bodies are involved in this, larger than we think. The UB to me
clearly outlines that this Angona body does affect the sun and its
gravitational forces which in turn affects everything n this planet.
It appears the EM forces are increased and the Sun reacts to this. I find it
interesting that in 2012 there is a number conjunctions that occur as this
System runs by us.
The Solar system is going to be heating up and this planet will be no
different, all the heavens will rock the foundations of the earth and it will
be unpredictable.
Regardless, what we think if we can read it and see it and know about in the
details, then we should all prepare in our personal way.
I think the great opportunity lays before us in rapture! But then I know there
will be many that will be skeptical. Apparently in 2 years it will be seen in
our skies but I wouldn't be surprised if rapture happens before it seen.
That would seem logical to me as there is the opportunity in faith in the
beforehand of seeing it for real. It could be rapture in the first instance
and then when that is done then all will witness the Angona system and then
people will start to wake up in general and then shit themselves. And then all
will witness!
The rapture would be the best opportunity for all. After rapture it will
everyman for himself because the Government cannot and will not cater for
everyone.
So it either prepare now for rapture or go for safe keeping including storage
of food, water and essential for a few years because there will be no food.
If the planet is to heat up then the weather will be unpredictable and the
rains may fail. The Bible says there wll be no water and the heaven will
withhold its water. Yeah Sounds like a system affects our system and changes
everything.
Underground maybe the best option as the planet will go up in fire due to the
extreme heat increase!
Wirelessguru, I would say all fields and forces will be affected and the
planet will be wayward which could mean shift maybe polar shift maybe due to
gravitation tidal friction creating drag both coming from the Sun and the
Angona System. This could have an effect of two opposing forces pulling at the
planet thereby creating a polar shift effect. This tugging force creates
centrifugal forces and which no doubt would affect the tectonic plates and
everything else including EM fields from bombardment from the Sun through its
own dispersions of matter.
Funny enough, its this Angona system this wonderer of space which is the
creator of our solar system in truth.
Everything in this work is making very clear sense!!
Sevens
Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:56 am
More videos on Nibiru
This video provides some balance to the Nibiru video and some other things
If all is Ok with the first images of Nibiru then that would be the Bible
Wormwood! that visits and creates havoc. And Wormwood from what see in the
images fits the description of the Angona system that reappears periodically
our system and leaves a mess without cleaning up ahahahah.
Oh well, you just got to laugh at yourself sometimes in this research and to
what length you go to in order to ascertain the truth of the matter. Be it
wrong or right!
Oh well you just sit here thinking and looking around here wondering if its
all right and really you cant do much in the way of verification. Sit and
ponder and move forward. Also you have no one to discuss it with
because of some bias of some sort.
Just say of Im right??
Sevens
posted
03-31-2008 03:08 PM
Ok no problem, then the best
thing to do is await and see what occurs, at the end of the day if the
evidence in its verification that will prove all matters.
Oh well we have to see in a couple of years to see what occurs and to see
whether I was right. No one can honestly say that I'm wrong or right but we
simply have to await the evidence in the demonstration, if there is a
demonstration.
I dont know, I'm just going by what I see and read from a number of sources.
Yeah, I reckon there will be a re synchronization in matter and energy but
in the spiritual as well including the reality of man.
However, from what I see on face value and if its correct even in this early
time I'm quite happy with the what I see. Although, I understand there is
allot of crap out there and maybe this could one of those crappy things who
knows, we will soon find out.
Wireless, this was interesting
quote:
Caroline Cory's Divine Plan
Beyond 2012, "the beginning of 2008 marks the appearance of a new light
form facilitated by the magnetic shifting, through an aperture within the
new Earth grid"
Maybe she is right and perhaps
this could be part of the changes in the delivery and what is delivered from
all of us. Seems like a good year and I know from my experience that many
things seem right and coming together as in a crescendo in the current
journey. Maybe this is part of what is described in the above?? is part of
it all.
I wish I could prove these things in the physical and perhaps that may
happen after an initial event ...I dont know!
all the best
sevens
posted
03-31-2008 03:25 PM
quote:
But logic trips over itself in
most of these situations
Surely does with all the thing
appearing and disappearing. It really sounds quite incredible from what I can
ascertain.
Oh maybe the best thing to do is just to have fun with it and just have a
laugh things appear and reappear and go missing.
ahahah
sevens
Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:50 pm
Well at the end of the day with all our
different ideas we should still display some brotherhood rather than all
this accusation and delivery of counter accusations. Well I must admit I
fall in that as well ahahah gotta a little laugh at that.
But in all our differences the most important thing is that we display the
attitude of Jesus even if we disagree but to accuse people of lying and
deceit when the person accused is sincere in there research gets a bit much.
Come on that's not Jesus.
This is the problem with all these diverse doctrine comes all the dark stuff
that people do and say to each other in pointing the finger.
Its not what we know but its the attitude
which is most important to Jesus and the brotherhood of the brothers and
sisters towards one another.
That is the only thing that counts and the application of truth.
When you see all the finger pointing it really looks spiritually ugly! and
is not the way of Jesus regardless what doctrine one belongs to and also
some people are the parrot of the pastor who have not found the truth for
themselves. Obviously in there attitude as displayed!
At the end all these difference will be taken
out through the demonstration.
Sevens
Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:37 am
The brotherhood of Jesus is tolerance for
everyone who expresses his thoughts.
I don't think its a sin to express oneself. You may not agree that's OK but
don't call fellow brothers or sisters liars and deceitful they are fellow
faith believers who may have a different thoughts about things but are
within the framework of the spirit of the Body of Jesus. Anyway the Father
is the judge!
Consider the wide ranging doctrines and ideas published each day in
Christianity which provide people of all kinds of expression. Tolerance is
God way and to communicate properly with kindness open the heart of the
other person.
All this judgement is the thing of the past and when people give there heart
to Jesus they unknowingly give their minds to the church and open their
thoughts to bias, interpretation and the prejudice of others.
Also Sampson could you post the actual
scriptural story please. So I can read it and see what I feel.
Sevens
posted
04-01-2008 02:54 AM
quote:
the laws of cause and effect
I totally agree, it will be like a cause and
effect on every level of existence with added purpose from Paradise.
Hey thanks for the thoughts
Ive been thinking about Nibiru and I feel Nibiru is the Angona System that is
described in the Urantia Book.
In the following, I'm trying to find parallels with the UB and the
descriptions of Nibiru with common physical aspects.
Here is some fragment.
quote:
they travel in the plane of the Angona
solar extrusion, which existed at a considerable angle to the plane of
the sun's equator.
Here is example of Nibiru's orbit
Seems to match the UB account on that point.
quote:
While Angona was unable to capture any of the
solar mass, your sun did add to its metamorphosing planetary family some
of the circulating space material of the visiting system.
So its a visiting system but I wonder weather
its periodical?
OK, this fragment is filled with much information.
quote:
Due to the intense gravity field of Angona
,
its tributary planetary family pursued orbits of considerable distance
from the dark giant;
So its a body that has an intense gravity field
which seems to corroborates what is known about Nibiru.
It has a family of Satellites that orbits around Nibiru and which seems to be
the case in the images of Nibiru.
Nibiru is a dark Giant which seems to describe a Brown Dwarf and is exactly
what we see in the Nibiru images.
The above 3 points are an exact match to we see today.
quote:
the Angona system swung so near to the
massive solar system.
The Angona system Swung so it infers
that there is an orbit involved a very large elliptical orbit.
quote:
to permanently detach these three
tributaries of the celestial wanderer.
Its a celestial wanderer which has planets but
an wandering system on a large elliptical orbit.
quote:
As the Angona system drew nearer, the
solar extrusions grew larger and larger; more and more matter was drawn from
the sun to become independent circulating bodies in surrounding space.
Its definitely related to the Sun and is the
activator where mass spewed out of the Sun to eventually form the planets.
quote:
developed for about five hundred thousand
years until Angona made its closest approach to the sun;
The above proves now that the Angona system is
in an Orbit around the Sun. Over time this Orbit came close activated the sun
to make our Solar system.
quote:
From the Angona side there was drawn out a
vast column of solar gases, rather pointed at both ends and markedly bulging
at the center,
What a site that would of been
quote:
4,500,000,000 years ago the enormous Angona
system began its approach to the neighborhood of this solitary sun. The
center of this great system was a dark giant of space, solid, highly
charged, and possessing tremendous gravity pull.
So 4,500,000,000 years ago it all began, the
Angona system in its log distance orbit was drawn closer to the sun only to
cause disruption again proving a long term relationship with Sun and also
demonstrates a varying orbit.
The Sun is the mother and the Father is the Angona System in metaphor.
quote:
The planets do not swing around the sun in
the equatorial plane of their solar mother , which they would do if they
had been thrown off by solar revolution. Rather, they travel in the plane
of the Angona solar extrusion,
which existed at a considerable angle to the plane of the sun's equator.
So the Planets swing in accordance to plain of
the Solar extrusion initiated by the Angona System. Not the Sun equatorial
plain.
Is that right? So therefore there should be a considerable angle of the
(Angona Pain) plain of the planets and the Suns equatorial plain.
quote:
your sun did add to its metamorphosing
planetary family some of the circulating space material of the visiting
system.
Some of the matter was added to the family of
the Sun.
quote:
Due to the intense gravity field of Angona,
its tributary planetary family pursued orbits of considerable distance from
the dark giant; and shortly after the extrusion of the solar system
ancestral mass and while Angona was yet in the vicinity of the sun, three of
the major planets of the Angona system swung so near to the massive solar
system ancestor that its gravitational pull, augmented by that of the sun,
was sufficient to overbalance the gravity grasp of Angona and to
permanently detach these three tributaries of the celestial wanderer.
And what of the 3 bodies that was added to the
family of the Sun? and what is retrograde motion?
quote:
All of the solar system material derived from
the sun was originally endowed with a homogeneous direction of orbital
swing, and had it not been for the intrusion of these three foreign
space bodies, all solar system material would still maintain the same
direction of orbital movement. As it was, the impact of the three
Angona tributaries injected new and foreign directional forces into the
emerging solar system with the resultant appearance of retrograde motion.
Retrograde motion in any astronomic system is always accidental and
always appears as a result of the collisional impact of foreign space
bodies.
Such collisions may not always produce retrograde motion, but no
retrograde ever appears except in a system containing masses which have
diverse origins
This all matches!
I think this the Nibiru XPlanet but no one has picked it up yet, its a dead
match if all is authentic in the images....thats the question?
I think this is the WORMWOOD as spoken about in Revelations and it appears to
be coming our way.
Gee! if all is verified and correct he are in some real deep crap and so
oblivious to it.
OOOOHHHHH! ahahahahah
The Kiuper Belt
Sevens
posted
04-01-2008 03:25 AM
ahahahahahaha I have to have a laugh
Soul mate ah! ahahah III see you in the City!
You know Volitzer, with all things being right or very close there would have
to be an escape plan from the dire consequences of Wormwood/Nibiru/The Angona
System.
Have to see what happens eh!
Sevens
posted
04-01-2008 05:26 AM
Doing a countdown on the planets
When the planet first formed there was 12
quote:
This great column of solar gases which was
thus separated from the sun subsequently evolved into the twelve planets
of the solar system.
But then it another section it only mentions 10
planets
quote:
The five inner and five outer planets
soon formed in miniature from the cooling and condensing nucleuses in the
less massive and tapering ends of the gigantic gravity bulge which Angona
had succeeded in detaching from the sun, while Saturn and Jupiter were
formed from the more massive and bulging central portions. The powerful
gravity pull of Jupiter and Saturn early captured most of the material
stolen from Angona as the retrograde motion of certain of their satellites
bears witness.
So there appears to be a mystery of the 2
missing planets. What happened to the other two planets.
another fragment that might give us clues
quote:
One of the moons of Jupiter is now
approaching dangerously near the critical zone of tidal disruption and,
within a few million years, will either be claimed by the planet or will
undergo gravity-tidal disruption. The fifth planet of the solar
system of long, long ago traversed an irregular orbit, periodically making
closer and closer approach to Jupiter until it entered the critical zone of
gravity-tidal disruption, was swiftly fragmentized, and became the
present-day cluster of asteroids.
So there is one planet that was destroyed as in
the above and by
quote:
3,500,000,000 years ago the condensation
nucleuses of the other ten planets were well formed
Still trying to work out where the other 12
planets are from the beginning of this post.
But in the below there is a hint about what was captured from the Angona
System.
quote:
The powerful gravity pull of Jupiter and
Saturn early captured most of the material stolen from Angona as
their satellitesthe retrograde motion of certain of bears witness.
If we find out which satellites of Jupiter and
Saturn are in retrograde motion, then we can find out the Angona Planetary
tributaries or Angona/Nibiru Satellites that was captured. It appears that
Jupiter and Saturn captured much material.
So where are the other two planets?? referring to this fragment
quote:
This great column of solar gases which was
thus separated from the sun subsequently evolved into the twelve planets
of the solar system.
I wonder what the other 2 planets went to.
Still looking into it.
The only thing I can think of is that the 3 tributaries captured by the Sun
from Angona is included in the total count of the planets so that makes 10
planets + 3 tributaries from Angona which = 13 planets. But then one planet,
the 5th was destroyed so that makes 12 planets currently currently. Thats one
explanation.
So perhaps they counted all the planets including the captured Angona planets
and the Suns planets less the one that was destroyed. Twelve
However, the Gas tongue that came out of the Sun due to disruption from the
Angona system gave birth to the 10 planets.
Thats the only explanation I can find for the missing 2 planets.
But there are only 9 planets in this solar system including Pluto. The UB did
include Pluto as planet.
But that makes sense because 1 out of 10 planets formed by the Gas bulge from
the Sun was destroyed which gives us the current nine planets and in addition
the 3 tributaries which Saturn and Jupiter captured which makes the 12.
That makes sense in that train of thought but it has to be tested.
The rationale of the 12 planets seems to be
confirmed here.
quote:
The five inner and five outer planets soon
formed in miniature from the cooling and condensing nucleuses in the
less massive and tapering ends of the gigantic gravity bulge which Angona
had succeeded in detaching from the sun,
(Then the connection to make the 12 planets)
while Saturn and Jupiter were formed from the more massive and
bulging central portions. The powerful gravity pull of Jupiter and Saturn
early captured most of the material stolen from Angona as the
retrograde motion of certain of their satellites bears witness .
So it appears the count includes the satellites
of Angona and the Suns planets 13 planets -1(destroyed)= 12 planets
Sevens
posted
04-01-2008 06:57 AM
Ok I'm trying to find which
satellites of Jupiter is in a retrograde motion to that of Jupiter.
quote:
Satellites
S/2000 J2 - J10 have orbital radii about
300 times the radius of Jupiter and inclinations near 150 to 160 degrees
, meaning that they are retrograde. These objects join the 5
previously known retrograde satellites of Jupiter, bringing the total number
of such objects to 14.
Looks like there has been a number
of collission of th Satelittes of Jupiter.
Data from the Cassini–Huygens mission provide
convincing evidence that the saturnian moon Phoebe formed elsewhere
in the Solar System, and was only later captured by Saturn's gravitational
pull.
Again verifying the Urantia Book.
In this link contains a table is the planets in retrograde motion. Looks there
was few.
The radius of the Hill sphere is about 65
million km, which is equal to 1,100 Saturn radii, or 0.43 AU (1 AU is the
mean Earth–Sun distance). Saturn is at the centre and the white objects on
inner, nearly circular, prograde orbits are the classical satellites: Titan,
Hyperion and Iapetus. Prograde objects circle Saturn in the same way as its
classical satellites (anticlockwise when viewed from above), whereas
retrograde objects orbit in the opposite direction (clockwise). The 12 new
satellites discovered by Gladman et al.1 can be grouped into families
according to their orbital properties: cyan and green objects are the new
prograde groups, whereas pink and red dots (including previously known
Phoebe) are all retrograde satellites. Animations of these and all other
Solar System satellites can be found at ref. 9.
M. ASBURY
Says it all when you can read about it and see
it.
Sevens
Sevens
posted
04-01-2008 03:33 PM
The great indicator of the oncoming
Angona System/Nibiru will be the Sun with increased sun spot activity and
great ejection. This is due to the gravitational effect on our solar system.
Another indicator is the general heating up of the planets.
I think I have to say is that governments never told but religion did and has
always been telling us about this impending event.
The best thing to do is to stock up on food and water now. That's if you
intend on staying on this planet during this time and also find a secure
location.
In my country it would the middle of Australia/Sinim.
It would be good time to implement a survival plan and safe destination well
beforehand.
The essentials would be:
Food
water plenty of toilet paper (Grass and fern spores are very uncomfortable
and not very effective). A don't forget the Can opener!!!
ahahahahahah I though that was funny!
Also items for entertainment like games and things to entertain people and
keep them stimulated we cant loose our sense of humor even though it will be
trying.
Al though in saying this is another terrestrial escape plan and that plan was
layed out by Jesus who is and will be literally our Saviour.
And that is rapture in the beforehand of the great visiting. All that is
required in the success of rapture is simple faith even the smallest amount of
faith and also keep the tenant of the 10 commandments as purposely sinful
people will not be included in this ark.
Look someone can make a mistake and identify it and correct even if he is not
totally successful in the correcting but is trying I think that would be OK
because the motive is right, that's OK that's fine.
Now rapture or terrestrial escape is also backed in the Urantia Book and does
apply to the Angona/Nibiru system which is also in the Bible as Wormwood in my
view.
quote:
While there is this
dematerializing technique for preparing the Adams for transit from Jerusem
to the evolutionary worlds, there is no equivalent method for taking them
away from such worlds unless the entire planet is to be emptied, in which
event emergency installation of the dematerialization technique is made for
the entire salvable population.
(and this part)
If some physical catastrophe should doom the planetary residence of an
evolving race, the Melchizedeks and the Life Carriers would install the
technique of dematerialization for all survivors, and by seraphic transport
these beings would be carried away to the new world prepared for their
continuing existence. The evolution of a human race, once initiated on a
world of space, must proceed quite independently of the physical survival of
that planet, but during the evolutionary ages it is not otherwise intended
that a Planetary Adam or Eve shall leave their chosen world.
So there is available a terrestrial
technique of escape "the entire planet is to be emptied, in which event
emergency installation of the dematerialization technique is made for the
entire salvable population."
Is the Planet and its population is
threatened by some physical catastrophe then there is a rapture
dematerialization process (type of translation) "the Melchizedeks and the
Life Carriers would install the technique of dematerialization for all
survivors"
Now this dematerialization technique is used if the planetary residence is
threatened such like we have with the oncoming of the Angona System into our
Solar System. "If some physical catastrophe should doom the planetary
residence of an evolving race"
So you can see there is a plan of preservation of the best of humankind. Thats
why it is important that you keep on your best behavior with sincerity
remember all souls are searched.
You know temptation is hard to resist we all know what thats like, thats part
of the reason I work in isolation so I keep on track and dont get diverted too
much into to other things that may hold me back. In this way the Angels and
myself can focus on the task at hand without too many distractions and get the
job done successfully.
Even though my biggest complaint is not having a compatible female partner in
this adventure but even that can take me of the path to. Man O man its a monks
life that I never asked for. ahahahahaha.
Gotta have a laugh at that one! I never asked to be a virtual Monk it just
happened that way! ahah Oh well that's life. I gotta say I miss that intimacy
enveloped in love and affection and that spiritual support from your partner
in the journey and all the many great conversations. Maybe it was my fault
because I'm to fussy I suppose! and I know what I like.
I miss that company greatly!
Anyway, back to business, so there you have it. The impending situation all
confirmed and in all the books and in prophecy also in all the books and an
simple escape plan based on faith since our planet and its evolving race is
potentially our threatened.
I think its looking good for us and I feel very confident that we all all make
it. No doubt about it.
Well be fine because we have the truth behind giving us full backing in the
adventure, the governments never gave this truth to us but the Father himself
and through his Servants of all levels.
I am grateful for that!
I would also suggest if you have time to read the teachings of Jesus in the UB
as that is a great guide and provide much in the way wisdom and knowledge.
You know I really thank the Ancient of Days and its agents for the UB. What a
fantastic book that just breaths life and it really is the book of the Tree of
Life with all the books of religion that really leads to the ARK of mankind in
these times of threatened evolution/existence!
isn't this great to be given the truth first hand and it came from religion at
the right timing. What a gift and full of love and salvation in literal terms.
Anyway I hope that was a good study, it can be taken further being a thread of
truth and discovery with enlightenment. Its a very exciting time for us all
and we will be successful utterly and totally by the right hand of Jesus as he
holds our hands on the path through the abyss. I want no one here to miss the
boat absolutely no one and we wont, simple as that! done!
I say Action Stations red alert and so does the
Father and Jesus.
This is it! YEA!
Sevens
posted
04-01-2008 04:46 PM
quote:
Since when does gravity generate
heat!?
No worries, wouldn't that be due to
increased Sun activity due to the gravitational field effect, interference and
inbalancing effect of the Angona/Nibiru system gravitation field? in its
effect?
I'm no physicist so we have to see but already we see increased sun activity
and heating of Mars and other planets.
UB Fragment
quote:
The center of this great system
was a dark giant of space, solid, highly charged, and possessing
tremendous gravity pull.
and in this fragment seems to
confirm that this system does effect the sun due to Gravitational effect on
the sun gravitational field.
quote:
As the Angona system drew
nearer, the solar extrusions grew larger and larger; more and more
matter was drawn from the sun to become independent circulating bodies in
surrounding space. This situation developed for about five hundred
thousand years until Angona made its closest approach to the sun;
whereupon the sun, in conjunction with one of its periodic internal
convulsions, experienced a partial disruption; from opposite sides and
simultaneously, enormous volumes of matter were disgorged. From the Angona
side there was drawn out a vast column of solar gases, rather pointed at
both ends and markedly bulging at the center, which became permanently
detached from the immediate gravity control of the sun.
Like two opposing forces where the
sun reacts being a variable sun as demonstrated by the sun spots with
increased activity. Its like we are the meat in the sandwich and there would
be tidal friction which may have an effect. Angona does emit heat as well, not
like the sun but heat with no light this may also contribute being highly
charged emitting heat.
and this one
quote:
As Angona more closely
approached the sun, at moments of maximum expansion during solar pulsations,
streams of gaseous material were shot out into space as gigantic solar
tongues. At first these flaming gas tongues would invariably fall back into
the sun, but as Angona drew nearer and nearer, the gravity pull of
the gigantic visitor became so great that these tongues of gas would break
off at certain points, the roots falling back into the sun while the
outer sections would become detached to form independent bodies of matter,
solar meteorites, which immediately started to revolve about the sun in
elliptical orbits of their own.
It seems that Angona is a highly
charged dark space body (Brown Dwarf) so it would omit a highly charged em
field and does affect the sun to due it Gravity Pull . The Kicker is in
this mini fragment "the gravity pull of the gigantic visitor".
So there you have Gravity pull, Gravity opposing forces!
Hey Wrielessguru what does IMHO stand for? Sorry man! and thanks for the above
post it makes me research to find proper answers but we will have to see.
All the best
Sevens
Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:08 pm
Quote:
Jesus was intolerant of everything that
opposed God.
Yes that's true he was intolerant of Sin. But expressing a thought about
your views on things or on scripture is not Sin. That's what I meant anyway.
I think being in intolerant of people with different ideas but within the
motive of Christ's purposes is not wrong? even if they are perceived
differently to yourself. Like looking at text where people have there own
thoughts.
I don't see anything wrong in the idea of expression.
Like Petra obviously has her views on Jesus and scripture in how she
perceives and from what she has been taught, she is being honest in her
research. Sampson might not agree with her thoughts but in that she is not a
liar and or are deceiver. Actually to make judgement on her pointing the
finger Liar and Deceiver by Sampson in my view is on the edge of Sin and
part of the wide way because who is Sampson to judge his fellow sister when
he is still learning about Jesus to as we all are.
We don't know everything and I don't find Petra sinful in her expression
because that's what she believes. Even though I have some of my own thoughts
about things I dont find the differences in thoughts sinful except where
truth is purposely avoided in a knowing sinful way or used against people.
you know all the bad stuff.
# It was following this real and public
surrender of his personal ambitions in behalf of the larger plans of
Melchizedek that the three celestial beings appeared to him on the plains
of Mamre. This was an appearance of fact, notwithstanding its association
with the subsequently fabricated narratives relating to the
natural destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. And these legends of
the happenings of those days indicate how retarded were the morals and
ethics of even so recent a time.
and
# line 146: It was shortly after the destruction of Sodom and
Gomorrah that Machiventa decided to end his emergency bestowal on
Urantia.
So the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah was at the time of Melchizedek and
the Cities were destroyed in a Naturally process which I believe by fire and
brimstone which can come from, I suppose a few natural sources.
Like from the fall out of Volcanic action or by the fall out of a asteroid
perhaps. I sometime wonder whether there was submergence involved thus the
dead sea involved coupled with Volcanic action.
Anyway I thought that was an interesting study.
And it was at the time of Melchizedek, its funny I see a type in that for
today.
For example with the arrival of Wormwood/The Angona System/Nibiru to this
solar system and the mass destruction it will cause to the Babylon system.
Its the same type we have today.
Just my thoughts.
But don't you find this interesting in our times that all is being revealed
before the big disaster, they say that Wormwood/The Angona System/Nibiru
will start being noticeable with the human eye from the South pole in 2
years time and which will eventually be visible to all man on the planet,
the great witness!
Like in the days of Melchizedek around the destruction of Sodom and
Gomorrah! Like we have today.
Thank the great Father for rapture, the Jesus escape plan because I don't
want to be around this planet when it hits the fan! Because it will be just
bas news on every level.
Nope, no way do I want to remain here, its not worth it!
The planet is set for destruction.
Government should be storing food right now for all but they will not and
they will only save themselves and the system and also note the Doomsday
seed bank already the governments are planning to save there own arses and
the rich.
But Jesus has a plan for everyone with faith
and no one is excluded. Thank you Lord!
See how he is a Saviour in this situation!
Praise the Lord for that!
So I say get ready! NOW, EVERYONE not matter of what doctrine or faith
system. This rapture for the individual is based on simple faith and trust
in the Lord, it has nothing to do with which church or doctrine you ascribe
to. Its plainly between the Soul of the individual and the Father. that's
it! Faith like a child.
And the smallest flicker of faith is counted
for righteousness! So its just faith and time to warn others.
I have already told my family and they think I'm a fool and lost my marbles,
well least I loose my marbles for the right cause of of our Great friend and
Saviour Jesus. I can just read there thoughts. ahahahahahahahah Oh well!
So true, it will be like in the days of Noah!
In this fragment I see much
Quote:
It was
shortly after the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah that Machiventa
decided to end his emergency bestowal on Urantia.
Melchizedek's decision to terminate his sojourn in the flesh was
influenced by numerous conditions, chief of which was the growing
tendency of the surrounding tribes, and even of his immediate associates,
to regard him as a demigod, to
look upon him as a supernatural being, which indeed he was; but they were
beginning to reverence him unduly and with a highly superstitious fear.
So it was after the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah that the people
thought that Melchizedek was a God and somehow responsible for this
destruction where suddenly he was revered as a GOD. I think its safe to
assume that.
Again it seems to have all the types of today as see in the impending
disaster for this planet!
Thats why it is now that all is being revealed whether people like it or
not! Because the truth as in this almighty journey to the ancient places and
now the prospect of Wormwood/The Angona System/Nibiru but the truth will
come first before anything!
The truth and Jesus with the purpose of rapture and then the destruction
follows.
sevens
posted
04-03-2008 05:45 PM
Probably not, but thats how the people at the
time perceived it and assumed there own thoughts on the mass destruction of
the cities even though it was due to a natural process. To them it was a
completely supernatural experience and in their interpretation involved God
and judgement that has continued to today.
Thats why they revered the Melchizedek as a demi God as they assumed he has
something to do with it somehow.
Man in his superstition with little scientific knowledge.
Here is thought but I dont know!
What if the Dead Sea was in them days was a freshwater lake considering the
amount of cities surrounding that area. Where a comet came and smashed in to
the dead sea causing subsidence and much salt. The brimstone or sulfur balls
was the fallout of the Asteroid whilst on approach to its end destination.
Another thought Volcanic action but are there volcanoes in that area. I dont
think so.
Natural but man but in the purpose in his spiritual superstition at the time
and Abraham was warned.
Still it has the type of today in my mind. The beforehand event horizon seen
in the future, the warning to Abraham followed by the destruction.
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