Hi

Hi Ive been looking into the the differences of Paul's Gospel to that of Abner. Trying to understand the difference and then identifying the root cause. Abner was in direct contact with Jesus and leader of the 70 so his teachings would be equally as valid as the ideas of the occident.

Abner's idea was the primarily The Gospel of Kingdom of Heaven and the Brotherhood of mankind.

Similar to what we see in Islam essentially and the very early teachings of the Eastern Christian Branch of Christianity.

Abner was in charge of the Eastern Branch which was headed in Philadelphia. In revelations there is message to that particular church. I'm assuming that this blessings is for the end times and being a message for the Church of Philadelphia, the message extends to the religious branches that subscribe to this promise which I believe extends to Islam or the religions of the Abnernarian Gospel of Jesus' message.

 

Quote:

---

Revelation 3
7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth; 8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name. 9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. 11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. 12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. 13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

---

I'm not sure how one would take the latter, you have to search that for yourself. But I do believe that its a message for the middle eastern and eastern Med branch of the real gospel of Fatherhood and brotherhood of the kingdom and who have overcome destruction and division, the works of Satan. There is a crown reserved and no one is gong to take it away. It gives us further clues that is connected to the key of David, The key of David which my research indicates is connected to Eden and its glaring message. Regardless of the name there is a key involved in a mystery, and when that mystery is realised and shared beforehand, the door will be opened for a time, an opportunity given and then the door will close and no man will be able to open it, meaning when man realises his demise of rejection and the door or opportunity is closed. God wont hear his prayers!. I believe that key is Eden, the discovery of it and it will ensue. Its all to do with a key, a lock and a door. He who hears the message and adheres to it, the message of goodwill he will overcome.

That's what I see as the promise to the Abners church and its branches.

Note the, "I make a Pillar in the temple" would that be a reference to the Kabba stone, "I make a pillar in the temple". Is that a hint.?? Is there a duality, in connection to Eden of Cyprus, a pillar in the temple the acropolis Hill could that be the key to the lock, The ruins and what is found on the Acropolis Hill. A duality connection.

There could be many clues here, and those who overcome are the ones who overcome the voice of division and warfare. The road is peace and goodwill and there is a very big promise here for Islam and those who follow and adhere to the truth which is in the Quran and the Early Jesus gospel of the Eastern Branch, the Kingdom of Heaven Paradise Gospel. Same message.

I think that is very interesting.

 

Quote:

---

12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

---

I find allot in this, Like a ritual that will be replaced by a new city and new temple that no one has to leave. The city is lowered and the knowledge that new city extends will be a new book that will have a new name. If this is the case, it would fulfill the Quran prophecy that it will be replaced by a new book from heaven overnight. But in a positive light? Not in a light of disaster.

I would also like to point out the following

 

Quote:

---

I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet,

---

Its like today, who is today, pointing fingers at the Jews with accusations and threats. These same threats is what Gods sees as lies, written in the books directly, I'm not making this up its in black and white. . You can work that one for yourself. But then It does suggest that they who are pointing the finger and are motivated with hearts of hate in Gods name will be humbled and they are associated with the church of Satan. These are the divisive and violent people who destroy willingly, innocent people in the name of Gods name, all sides.

food for thought.

regards
sevens

Edited by sevens on 09/10/06 02:31 AM.

Sorry I'm confused. I did pick up his argument and demonstrated that it could of been an anomaly by using 2 different types of Software where I found inconsistency in Nikas pictures to the area.

What I mean by scripts is all the information of all the cultures in the past, particularly the BC books and religious books of all cultures. Each culture has a piece of the puzzle. They all have the same story about the place but suited to ones culture at the time.

Anyway you know my website, check it our more fully there could be some clues there and see if it may relates to Malta instead.

Anyway I gave you a couple of leads regarding Malta and its history. Also I did say that he should get some proper surveys of the place of available. Im not against the idea, we have established old coastline pictures that look compelling. What to say another civilisation lived near Malta at that time of Eden 34,000 years before the deluge which could of been an outpost of Atlantis of Cyprus?? Nothing wrong with that idea but more information and research has to be gathered.

Anyway what wrong with the Urantia Book, its a good book, pity people don't take the time to research it and read it fully with out all the opinions and no research. Maybe if they did read it, it may lead then to a great discovery that would have more significance than just tourism.

Who knows it could change the world. You just never know about life and the course it takes in this area.

regards
sevens

[ 09-10-2006, 03:48 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

How do you explain the theory in detail using science and data. Convincing argument on what?? Where is the science? Where is the scripts and not just Plato as this place goes beyond the writings of Plato.

You cant rely on Google alone, Google says its there and world wind says its not. Although I did say that I wouldn't be surprised that there are ruins under the water near Malta but not in the position that Nikas says I don't know as one program says one thing and another program says something different.

So there you go confusion already. Although he did highlight the Sicilian land bridge submergence which is completely evident by observing what I think is the old coastline and what appears to be water gouging in the vast waterways of the land bridge. Also there is hard evidence of survey done of the coast of Southern France in an submerged river canyon. Basically what they proved that the med was way lower than today because of the Gilbraltor dam.

But what Nikas has found is either a old canyon of an old river system or nothing. Some search would have done to see if anything lays there and a proper study would have to be done using the latest bathy data of the area, if it exists.

Also I did place some information that was a hint to the ancient ruins in Malta, a civilisation that goes back over 7000 years ago that settled near present day Carthage. This is before the Phoenicians and are related to the Egyptians in my view. Also Italian archaeologists found evidence of ancient ruins in Tunisia but that's all I know. This could be a reflection of that ancient civilisation.

Here is the link of ancient river canyons of Sth France.
Ancient River canyons of France

At the end of the day a survey has to done of the area that Nikas is interested in to see if manmade ruins lay there.


regards
sevens

[ 09-10-2006, 03:09 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

I really liked Massoud, I saw a documentary on him before he got killed and I really liked him. I thought he a good man, its a pty that he was murdered.

I get the feeling that Osama is loosing his power base and influence, I think the peace loving Muslims are just sick of the guy bringing everyone down to this low level of existence not to mention religion at large. Religion has never been at its lowest ebb.

One day I hope it improves. Many people just don't have faith anymore and are losing confidence in everything even the future.

regards
sevens

.

I really liked Massoud, I saw a documentary on him before he got killed. What a shame. I thought he a good man, its a pity that he was murdered.

I get the feeling that Osama is loosing his power base and influence, I think the peace loving Muslims are just sick of the guy bringing everyone down to this low level of existence not to mention religion at large. Religion has never been at its lowest ebb. I personally feel that when people start to see things in proper prospective in light of everything they will look at Osama and think again. Actually those people will abandon him, slowly but surely as the truth reveals itself more and more. They will abandon him and go home to help there families, the the great priority, I can feel it. I can also feel the tide of change happening in his reality. Very much as a better alternative will arise which brings us to the future.

One day I hope it improves. Many people just don't have faith anymore and are losing confidence in everything even the future.

Well one thing for sure the scribes who counted the towers that fell and who are hiding are identified in the Bible will be accountable for there actions. undoubtedly!

Its all there in black and white and actually they link those evil terrorist actions with the Synagogue of Satan as mentioned in revelation 3, Its in the blessings of the Church of Philadelphia, the clue lays there.

regards
sevens

no worries brig, III take it easy.

Anyway here is some info in point form things that make Cyprus Atlantis and Eden from the clues left behind by Plato, in my view. Cyprus is a fulfilment of these clues and was mentioned in all the books of religion in all cultures in around the Med.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/press_blueprint.htm

regards
sevens

Its a real problem when religion is mixed with state, look at the problems that come out of it. Maybe religion should just stick to spirituality in the promotion of good works and raising top of the line leaders rather than those who would rather stupid religious war, and self vain gloriousness with violence.

Anyway the religious leaders who intend on destroying the world for his own ends is just stupid and blinded.

regards
sevens

the Sicilian landbridge
 

Yes Cat youre a real champ. A real mocker, what the point your making. Put something down.


By the way does any body know the sea level depth of the Sicilian Landbridge currently using data. Also is there a chart with approximate sea levels of the past 40,000 years in increments? until today. I can find anything on the web.

Not much info I can find.

Ok I found this graph from Wikipedia. Looks like this link says that 9000 years ago it was 20m more shallow thats only around 60ft, however around 20,000 years ago it was about 140m more shallow thats around 420ft. So if the current depth of the submerged sicilian landbidge is below 420 then the theory doesnt stack up I suppose.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Post-Glacial_Sea_Level.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_level_rise


Around 34,000 the dam broke and just flooded the place.

I was thinking if the ruins of Malta that lays in 60 ft below sea level then that would point to the civilisation of Cathage the Andites.

What are the depths of the ruins of Malta?

regards
sevens

[ 09-12-2006, 04:11 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Mike

Give it a break will you.

I replied with some links that should be explored I was also interested in the depth of the ruins of Malta.

Regarding all the other stuff in your post, Whatever you think, the forum is only database of replies, big deal. I did mention that near the link.

Anyway your pretty personal guy speaking silly thing personalizing everything don't worry about it man. I must admit I probably didn't help but anyway, I don't think Sarmast is interested in oil except for the ruins and lays there.

I was thinking would you have any idea on the depth of the submerged land bridge, any idea i cant find anything?

regards
sevens

Hi No worries I went to the link the links they were good.

But still according to the wikipedia link 22,000 years ago the sea levels were generally 130 Meters lower. Sure at that time Malta would of been larger definitely. However, it would been surrounded by water and cut of from the mainland with around 70 meters difference, if we are assuming the straits are 200M. That's seems to deep to create mud, that's around 420ft or 128m That's still pretty deep generally.

However if you did an expedition and discovered underwater ruins and calculating there depth would give you the time period of civilisation.

If the ruins are 50 - 60 ft or so that would equate to around 5000BC or so that would be around the time of the Andites near Carthage. The deeper you go and discover, the older the civilisation would be perhaps.

What I think happened is around 34,000 BC the dam broke and submerged the Sicilian land bridge. Malta, stood firm but allot larger then. Everything washed away, Atlantis downstream was submerged as well. And being at a lower elevation would of copped a hiding with all that gravity.

Anyway there going to be down there soon, they should have all the right equipment to let us know what's there.

Ah! see what happens!

By the way I took the forum database down waste of space.

regards
Sevens

[ 09-12-2006, 05:03 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Hi PL

I really enjoyed your post, I thought it was interesting. I'm visualising what your saying. What has been raised about the Sicilian land bridge and Malta is of quite good import. I think the study of the land bridge and Malta gives us a good understanding of Atlantis in Cyprus.

I noticed when looking at the Maps that Malta is surrounded by deep water that which if it was 140 meters lower Malta would still be small island, just a little larger surrounded by deep sea water and was probably a commercial centre of the ancients times just like Atlantis Cyprus, maybe they are related as you say. Must be explored. They were probably regarded as twins. There is said to be ruins 80 meters deep close to the island. That says something but again I wish somebody took pictures as per usual if they saw them.

However before the flood the basin waters where much lower and what seems to me is that the Sicilian Land bridge was perhaps larger than what we think. Off course one needs proper data but perhaps to research the case of Malta in connection to Atlantis is thought provoking.

Perhaps before the Gibraltar break Malta was an island on the land bridge, looking at the gouging effect. Malta could of been within a lake or a salt lake who knows. But the coast line would of been much further away by perhaps hundreds of miles by what we see in the images. Maybe there was access through a river.

Another thing, Atlantis being at a lower elevation would of experienced much down force of the differences in the elevation of both places. It would of been a huge Tsunami that impacted on Atlantis/Eden.

Anyway food for thought, I thought the images where quite outstanding and quite compelling.

It really needs a survey for the ruins if they exist, the idea would be dependent on what is found and proven

All the best.

regards
sevens
 

Hey I don't know if this common ground. I just saw documentary on the Electric car they built in the 80s by General motors which they canned of course.

But apparently there are some of those models around that run on about 2 dollars of electricity per month. Apparently the ecar enthusiasts in California have developed a electric engines that outstrip normally aspirated cars even at the drag races and now can last for about 500km.

That's what we should have these type of cars but because there were to good they suppressed the technology to maintain control, make money and destroy the earth in the meantime.

They are responsible of the devastation we have on this planet. Squarely, just an clear act of the selfishness we have to live with and suffer with, they should be all sacked for there environmental crimes done blatantly and no one can do anything about, we are at there mercy and mankind is so weakened by these people. No one can do anything about it.

By they way General Motors proclaimed they have just developed a hydrogen car converting water to energy on demand. What a ploy they say it will take 10 years to get on the road. What a whole of crap when there is a guy who lives down the road from me who developed this technology over 20 years ago. Just down the road and had been driving for free for years. And you General Motors declaring this rubbish now and all this 10 year in the future propaganda. Crap and lies.

They all say the same thing, like in Russia they have been killing bacteria that we can even approach in the Western world. But In Russia they kill untreatable bacteria with Phage, its a specific virus that kills specific bacteria and look at the western world being led along the garden path with antibiotics particularly in light of a simple treatment already available for over 30 years or more.

The Russians get there phage from there local polluted river. That's it how simple and inexpensive it is using nature. What a testament that is, especially when we have all this propaganda in the west and reject easy treatments because there is no money in it. The ugliness of this planet guided by un spiritual people.

This planet is full of lies and deceit.

The whole world is full of hypocrisy and a boardrooms full of arseholes, virtually the whole lot them, they all speak the same rubbish and crap. The robots for relentless profit and dragging out technology regardless of the destruction currently caused by the love of profit.

Even if it was good for mankind! They'll destroy it.

I would suggest forming a co-operative of like minded people, convert cars into Electric cars and use for short trips. As the technology becomes better why not upgrade.

Why not be a cooperative of the people and the Ecar, a non profit scenario. Where it becomes of the people, for the people like the US was supposed to be. Not for the money hungry guy who just wants to control your life and give no care to the planet.

Be a cooperative for the future. Who wants that black crap it just gives us cancer. Its only the money people that want it, not the planet.


I think that all the car companies and Oil companies should pay a penalty of the cause of destruction they wrought on this planet and for there crimes in murdering creative people in technology of the past and present. They present all this hype with Hydrogen technology using technology that was either bought out and they simply leaned on the person.

They knew all this technology all along for years and look at them know trying to claim the savour attitude especially in light of the blood that has been spilt over this technology.

I give all respect to those creative people that worked on there own trying to pursue technology that would be good for the planet.

But for those who destroyed them and there quest through fear, they get no blessings, nor praise nothing because they don't deserve anything for there actions.

regards
sevens
 

Hi Brig.

I was a little pissed and still am, according to this documentary apparently the people who own these Ecars are very happy, although the charge was an issue but new developments have taken the Electric car to a new level that is far superior than fuel. Even beats the drag cars as I saw in power and speed.

What really gets me is that so many Hydrogen developers and innovators have died or just got murdered for there great inventions, the Fuel vaporiser is another case in point.

And now after all the bloodshed here you have perpetrators claiming Hydrogen as there own. Garbage, all they did was just intimidated the inventors and stole the technology. You know how these people think. There ruthless and haven't got a bone conscience. You wouldn't even invite these people into your house.

As I mentioned about the guy down the road, he can make trip to Sydney and back within 24 hrs on a litre of water. Also the government hassle him all the time and threats have been made by the relevant companies to, whats new.

And look at these automobile and oil companies just flogging the human race and then they have the Gaul to say its 10 years before its available. You and I know that's a big lie, they can do something if they wanted to now, they have leverage, technology and the money and power.

Gee now there talking about Methane another Greenhouse gas, another profit motivated decision. Eventually we will have to go to water. It obvious.

These car companies are all bad and society lets this happen because people are just sucked in by there deception and fear. People don't know any better.

I'm no commo but I think the free enterprise system is completely out of line and I think its unsustainable in its present form.

Plus I'm not sure if competitiveness is all that healthy, considering it breads a society of ruthlessness and heartlessness and that is the root problem of our society. Its the winner and loser society of self vain glory. Also, if it is the land of liberty why are so many people in jail over the smallest petty things. You know when you have been in Jail your life is stuffed in the winner/loser society. There is virtually no opportunity there after. That is so cruel.

Its almost like a breakdown and also explains why drugs are so prevalent because most people aren't happy and under enormous pressure and have no faith in the government who represent the loser/winner society, where law enforcement or the police force is just like a paramilitary operation of social control to the extreme.

I just feel that our society is real trouble in some ways and its very under pinning will falter particularly in spirit. The banks are responsible for this in the main through charm of ego and debt, the ultimate power perception over all. Money, the stuff banks made out of nothing, absolutely nothing and who pays the price for this you do! the planet pays for it and our future generations, the ultimate price.

regards
sevens

[ 09-13-2006, 10:35 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Well I have no doubt that Cyprus is Atlantis I don't think its Malta at all. You're really speaking of a later time frame.

Where talking about 38,000 years ago. Even before those ruins of the Maltese coast were even made.. Yes even before that time of perhaps 15,000-22,000 its still post Gibraltar break, post flood,

Plus you have all the books of scripture from all cultures that left there mark concerning this place which points to the place and the knowledge is within all cultures of the past, Even in the Urantia Book, the latest presentation of the Gods. We are talking the land of the Gods aren't we, The Gods of Atlantis and Eden. the same place and then you have this latest presentation leading us to physical proof. Says much more than Plato only and not to mention any mystery that surrounds this place concerning today and any message that he holds for us today.

Looking at just Plato (600BC) only and trying to tie it down through interpretations of a language that was never used 38,000 years ago to me makes no sense. All writings of Plato are recent in comparison to what lays there.

The place is mentioned in the Book of the Dead(1500BC) as the Isle of Maati and not to mention the mention of Eden in all the other BC books. They all speak of Eden or isle of Maati near Egypt, Lebanon, and do speak of the deluge that happened, in there neck of the woods.

Doesn't speak about Malta at all concerning the deluge. I think the time frame you covering is recent.

Thinking Atlantis is Malta doesn't make sense as in those days when the dam was closed, the Med was a basin and was a completely different landscape where the pillars of Heracles never it existed. There where no pillars there. Any pillars would be a local monument which passed down in time through symbolism. Where not talking about 20, 000 years ago but 34,000 years, the time of the great deluge that was remembered and past down in time.

All nations since that time have tried to equate themselves to this time of Atlantis, the land of the Gods hoping they are a part of the Gene pool or something.

Anyway when the land bridge was up there was probably no Malta at all 38,000 years ago was just a mountain and it was not within a big sea. Even the Book of Jubilees speaks of 2 inland seas, Atil and Mauk and speaks of the destruction coming from the West, the submergence of the Sicilian Land bridge and mentions directly Eden and its sign for this time of discovery. Directly and relates to Noahs family and then you have Jesus in the 1st Book of the Adam saying, I will bring you back in the garden where there is light The Kingdom of Heaven. All related to Eden of Cyprus.

When Atlantis was up and dry it fulfils all of Plato's clues and consider the Volcano that rose probably 6000 ft above ground level and could be seen from Atlantis on a clear day. Atlantis as you can see, by all description and in prophecy and in history is in Cyrus which was connected by a isthmus to the mainland which had gates. 12 Gates.

These gates are the original Pillars of Heracles. The Gates of the Gods and they can be seen as described in the Urantia Book and Egyptian sources speak of them. Atlantis found of Cyprus is exactly what Plato described like Plato says, you have remnants of the city down there in to major areas that are obvious..

Sorry Nikas but I think your research is flawed with regard to the time frame. Your looking into after the flood time period. Well after the deluge of Atlantis, the first place.

Anyway the only way to find out is launch an expedition, go out there. to Malta, explore it. The ruins of Malta its 80 meters deep according to some reports. But that's still in the post Flood time era because that whole region was above water and was quite vast allot larger than what people think. Malta was landlocked and was not within an inland sea. It had nothing to do with Atlantis pre flood, no connection.

However way back in 38,000 years ago forward to 34,000, there developed early sea traffic but only within the Sea of Atil, an inland sea and perhaps there was a colony on the Land bridge on the coast but the coastline was further towards the East. Miles away from present Malta.

The Med wasn't even open or accessible, no pillars there. Its when people speak of the pillars of Gilbraltar and relate it to Atlantis in the west from there you know that there theory is in the wrong time frame in a different reality to the original truth.

Its like when you look at the images the first sea Mauk filled and reached it brim the Sicilian Land bridge bursted which is evident by the gouging makes and flowed in to the Sea of Atil (Atlantis) until the point of equilibrium.

You can see the point of burst of the land bridge, looking to the west.



The if you look in the following is river path flowing into the Sea of Atil until the point of equilibrium.





That's what I think

regards
sevens

Well at the end of the day everyone has got there opinion which is fine. I personally think it stacks up and there is the evidence. And the leader of the expedition was led to the location. Actually wrote a book about predicting the location of the ruins beforehand and they were there.

You guy forget there are 2 major target areas.

I think he makes an excellent case, give me a break you've got all components in word and ruins there. No body here has come to that. It only theory upon theory,.....nothing rally just thoughts but nothing else.

Robert and all the books seem to make a very good case.

I think the Cyprus theory looks good. If feel people want to forget about those multiple ruins down there but its inconvenient.

regards
sevens

To be quite honest I just assumed that Mt Olympus was a volcano, sometime ago I did notice on a geological survey that the area of the location is igneous rock. Maybe the old Volcano wasn't active at that time. Your probably right. 6000 ft that was just my guess . I'm not sure of the height of the mountain and thinking it would of been one mile higher perhaps because of the deluge and rising sea levels.

I think it was an old volcano, wasn't it?. Well anyway, maybe if one had binoculars in that time they could see it. However the highlands and beautiful mountains does exist and can be clearly seen on the bathymetric maps.

although it talks bout the fire mountains in the west right where it river of lava follows into the sea to the west. That is mentioned in connection to Eden in my opinion. Also in the deluge it speaks of volcanic action. I also noticed that in the Book of Noah in his flood rendition of Eden.

Also there is evidence of springs on the acropolis Hill. Maybe they where hot which may indicates some volcanic action or activity close by perhaps.

regards
sevens

No problem, are you talking about the Urantia link or the excerpt I left.

Any look God does observe all and notes what's been rejected. That's ok people can reject it but is noted. Remember this is real big and there is message behind it and why people feel uncomfortable because its simply true and has a convicting element. That's why all this is rejected and was foreseen in prophecy.

By the way I was distressed about some of the content that some of the Hadiths contain regarding man and animals.

Is that true, if its is some cultural thing that occurred before Mohammed came.

I hope so.

regards
sevens


 

Hi Oasis, How is it going?

I just believe in the literal account of the Urantia Book. The feeling I get why the revelators mentioned Carthage was perhaps to give us a better understanding of the culture of that time in the Sicilian land bridge area. Perhaps many people who interpret the scripts by relating Atlantis with Spain and Malta are really reading about this early Andite civilisation which affected Egypt as mentioned in the Urantia Book but in the recent past.

Maybe the Urantia Book is hinting to this. Maybe later historians and writers are really speaking of these people and finding and relating aspects of the Gods of Cyprus (38-34,000) in there interpretations of history and discovering previous nations trying to make a connection to the original Gods and adopting the legends in there history, trying to make a genetic connection to a Godly race. But in connection to this earlier race which was directly related to the inhabitants of Italy and to the North. Might explain the Blonde and brown hair in Northern Italy where in the South they are more darker person.

Personally I think the legend of Adam and Eve and the Atlantis Gods comes from the same place. There was only one and original land of the Gods which was Cyprus and the legends comes from this place and was intermingled with national history by all civilizations throughout time since those times. Its all evident in there books of religion, all the religions, there is always a connection to the original place.

Its all interesting and all good

Im jsut amazed how you have 3 co planar circles on top of a mountain sounds very similar to some research in the members section that relates 3 coplanar canals on the Cyprus Acropolis Hill.

Its quite fascinating how there is a connection. I am so impressed with the Malta ruins for sure, they are quite impressive and has all the signs of Atlantis/Eden in Cyprus. Its all the same coplanar circles in Cyprus handed down through legend through the Andite who also influenced and intermingled with the early Egyptians. Explains the religion and its reference to the land of the gods as in Maati.

This I think is the link to Cyprus in later times . Maybe the Urantia inserted this as a way to bridge the gap, making the connection and parallel to the land of the Gods the first place in Cyprus.



all the best
sevens



http://www.maltadiscovery.com/v3/eng/index.html

all the best
sevens

Hi HST

I would like to say that I found your post very interesting. I thought that was amazing and incredible discovery. I am absolutely impressed.

It was a great read.

I was also wandering in the The UB it speaks of the Cutites and the Sutites inhabiting the Garden until the deluge. I was wandering if you ever looked into it and found any links to any reference to a civilisation that connect with these names?

All the best
sevens
 

Hi HST

I would like to say that I found your post very interesting. I thought that was amazing and incredible discovery. I am absolutely impressed.

It was a great read.

I was also wandering in the The UB it speaks of the Cutites and the Sutites inhabiting the Garden until the deluge. I was wandering if you ever looked into it and found any links to any reference to a civilisation that connect with these names?

All the best
sevens

Hi Oasis

About the actual data of the Gibraltar I'm not exactly sure of the break in actual date and months but personally III just believe the Urantia account. Also I know there was some core samples that supports the case but more study has to be done. for sure.

Its all still evolving our ideas, thats why its been good to discuss Malta and other things to see if we can refine truth a little better based on results. Regarding Adam and Eve again I seek the Urantia truth, they weren't part of the Caligastia team. No way. Even though they where influenced by him and faltered, they never desired to be aligned with him.

I think many words and names have been brought down from history accompanied with Legend. I think much recent history and reflections of the past of the Gods have been intermingled with Empirical history. Just by looking at the word Ur. That combination of Ur is in most names, books, and places of significants, The Like Ur, Urantia, The Quran, Uran, Uraq, Ural mountains, The Ural sea. allot of Ur that originate from the middle east and was adopted by later and earlier races and combined the legend of the Gods as the own and also included the history within there own history to make the link to the Gods. Evry Civilisation has done that probably through design knowingly as that is a way of maintaining s resemblance of truth for a time in the future.

Similar to what we have today when people get this notion they are directly descendant from Atlantis and write books about there experience and links themselves to the Gods through there own imagination thus again we have another compile of Atlantis.

Suddenly a generation down the future find these obscure writings expands on the idea to incorporate the world where originally it was just a personal experience combined with past legend interpretation.
All countries , culture, kingship and families do the same by altering and adding history to make this personal connection to the Gods to lift national pride. I believe all the cultures did this in later times more sore and what your reading is a product of that.

That's why you see many Ur references adopted by later civilisations remembering that legend of Atlantis or Eden was perpetuated in there own culture as a personal experience to build national strength and feeling.

Everybody desired the personal link to the Gods in name.


I must say Oasis this is truly a journey of discovery of the truth. We all have to find the truth of the matter in our own way. I'm glad we can discuss all these things. They should be discuss and thrashed out. Its all for our edification and for our own journey in quest of truth. This is the honest forum in town regarding these issues.

Most forums that are related to UB don't go this far in the research of Eden which is understandable. But to be here and to thrash it out and to feel free to express is a real good thing for this planet.

I know debate is healthy and works to refine the truth they best way we can that I'm very happy to discuss all these things. And in addition to be on the spiritual journey in parallel with the physical discoveries is truly wondrous. Its a good time to be alive and to witness this event of discovery.

I think its truly remarkable.

It will be certainly interesting, intriguing and fascinating in what they uncover. A real mystery of suspense and intrigue and yet with so much love for mankind. You know God really loves all is children of true faith and loves to thrill us with this great discovery. He has all faith in man who believes and follows the good paths to him. Its a beautiful gift now and in the future.

Also in answering your question about 350,000 years ago. Much of the advances then was lost soon after the fall of the Sons of God. When Adam and Eve arrived, the planet was pretty primitive even in their religions. But Adam and Eve where recognized by all including the Nodites because of the previous training delivered through legend.

You know I was thinking that everything that we are discussing and things we find in the books and the reason being for many of these the religions of the past was probably designed for us right now. To make the ultimate connections.

All foreseen and manifested by mans own wills but God directing things the whole time for a time in the future. The grand design of the realities of the Paradise Trinity in time/space. Past present and future in a oneness of conjunction of truth/time.

God is calling in all the truth by this conjunction of the everything in the way of a puzzle or mystery. Its his way of completion in word and in discovery the intelligence of the Gods. This is truly a path and half.

Incredible! the mind of God.!!! Amazing. The way I feel now, is that I just give all praise to the Lord for his wonderous and truly Magnificent gifts of discovery and splendor in a way that we can see and understand.


regards
sevens
 

Thank you Milanista

But I do all my reading on the net concerning the books. Also I'm not impressed my posts containing the words of Jesus being torn down. Not impressed with that at all since there revelation is designed for you guys as Gods way helping.

I'm sick of rejection by all main religions and so is Gods in his sublime presentation.

Although now there is spiritual in total rejection of his words which includes the Urantia book. I put hours or research for the benefit of mankind to see it torn down by the ignorant few who do no research but judge.

God will not take kindly to that and that will include the Christians to who also reject the expanded truth and the discovery of Eden.

I think its high time for all religions to get of the back side from the set if crystallised doctrine and wake up and look at the realities that are unfolding and the message.

There will be a correction for those who wont listen.

Anyway III get a Quran from a local mosque. I'm not confident of my safety by giving out details of personal address.

Yes that is religion currently has taken because of all the false doctrine of the sword and religion. Its got nothing to do with physical but its spiritual message. God is dealing his sword of conviction now. Know that this who reject will be rejected because of his own prejudice.

regards
sevens
 

Hi well all I know is that the Pope is now complaining of the religion being used in war. Its not me know, its the Pope is saying something about the actions of violence with religious connection. I agree with him.

Regardless who he is and what he represents means nothing in light of what we see. That's is the truth. The sword has been misinterpreted willingly to justify the violence attitude. The sword of God is the sword of personal conviction to follow the right paths of no violence for those with the true that God desires. Its the be seen as the sword willing violence against others.

That's the true interpretation of that particular scripture.

Its a two edge sword that is presented in a mystery. Those who reject the truth will be rejected and those who accept and live the truth of no violence will be saved.

That's it, willing violence in the name of religion is totally forbidden in Paradise and should be outlawed here to.

I mean to say Islam is in a dangerous path and has division within itself because of there own doctrinal sects keeping 2 families apart through differing ideas of God. Look at the sectarian violence. Where does that come from and what is the end conclusion, disaster.

What doctrine justifies that, looking at the results. Does truth lay there?? I hardly think so if the results mean needless death and destruction then no truth lays there,  particularly when it can be avoided through a change of attitude and willingness.

Islam is on a chasm of self destruction as a religion and is probably part of the refinement, sorting the chaff from the wheat. Remember every religion is being reviewed and dealt with. Its not a matter of Islam and Christian, This concerns all religions of the planet.

I feel the angels of religion are dealing with each religion in there own way as a part of the refinement for the future.

Somehow I sense the pope is starting to activate because he probably realizes there are a few things concerning Man and God that are on the horizon as we have been discussing and where much has been rejected and torn down. Everyone is fed up with this violence crap and now people in religious leadership are starting to voice there concerns on a level that is directed towards religious leadership.

Everyone is just sick of this witness of Religion and violence. That not intelligence nor spiritual its rubbish.

Jus remember the Key, the lock and the door that will open and shut. Will you be let in accordance to your attitude. This goes for all man as each man will judged in accordance to his motivation and actions. If it is against his brother in violence regardless who, he will not get in.

God doesn't have real great expectation of man but expects allot from his spiritual servants. You know what that means no violence of any sort in spirit or in action particularly using the name of God.

just some views

regards
sevens

Hi HT

Thanks again for you post again I was inspired by your work and the work of your Grandfather I really respect all the work. I just its fantastic how on this forum all the UB brothers in sprit come together to release their own findings into the date which is very healthy as that in itself leading us to Eden that we can share in spiritual experience due to our personal discovery in light of the physical evidence.

Its such a supernal and sublime journey for us all, everyone all mankind no matter who. Its so good.

There is so much truth that comes the areas of your study. Just recently I ventured into the Mari seal or stone where I recognized features on the stone that led me on a journey that ended in Peru, believe or not and then reflected itself back to the location through legend left behind which perpetuated in the peoples in Sth America.

What a journey that was, bit here bit there all combined and what a picture it delivered.

The studies of the Assyrians is an amazing study and they knew all about the place and what happened there.

All the best and great blessings for you in your journey to Eden.

Wouldn't it be good that one day wouldn't be good for  all to come together around a very big table and present all the findings on every level from every civilisation and compile all the info into coherent 3d model of truth/timeline/evidence/scripture.

Like physical conjunction of the physical.

regards
sevens

Really, the kefir, this person, that person, its really all about man against man. No glory in that and its eventual destruction. Why glorify all this ego rubbish. What did that ever do for the planet. Nothing but a waste of good resources that could be put to good use rather than all this, him against me stuff and I against him stuff which could be avoided. AS YOU KNOW within yourself.

Yes we really need to chill out from the words of, him and us and I against him attitude. That's exactly why the world is in this predicament.

regards
sevens

Hi here is a link from a christian site about 70 7's I thought it was interesting. I was particulary drawn to this verse in Leviticus

The year of Jubilee is described in Leviticus. Well in the italics is exactly what happened in my experience. But still waiting, waiting and waiting. Oh well thats the way it goes! [list]
[*]25:8-11:

 

Man you should move on, were trying to find healing buddy, you're only aggravating the situation with your pain, getting no where.

shove off or participate properly.

Were trying to create life rafts with what's to come. You'll miss the boat if you don't self reflect and consider things and hear what's coming if you can perceive and read.

Its not just in Quran but its in all the books. Just research Eden and and launch a search Eden in all the books, that will give you some clues to the door.

With what's to come is beyond religious boundaries. Believe me. That's probably explains why there has been a shift even in my short time here and changes in peoples attitudes especially on both sides. Religious and from government.

Everyone is beginning to realise the hurt, damage that religion with violence is does.


sevens

Oasis,

You know where it says about the Andite settlement close to Carthage before the phoenecians. Where do you think that settlement is?

I found a link Archaeology site where it mentioned that an Italian team discovered an very ancient site. I was wandering if you have heard or seen anything about that.

regards
sevens

You know Oasis,

The civilisations of Cyprus and the rings in Malta are very last dispersion of the Andites from Mesopotamia, What we are seeing are the last vestiges of that culture. That's way before Egypt.

That's it man, I'm realising it more, that the evidence, the explanation is there through the UB connection, well very much of it anyway. Look at the commonalties of the rings and its various arrangements. I'm still spun out about it.

regards
sevens

Hi I found this excerpt here

http://www.atlantisrising.com/issue9/ar9topten.html

[list]When the French colonized North Africa they soon discovered a lost world existed in southern Algeria and [b]that the ancient harbor of Carthage was an exact miniature of the capital of Atlantis [/b]as described by the Egyptian priests, novels such as Atlantide [/list]

Maybe the Phoenicians copied a town or ruins that already existed there or close by built by the early Andites after the disruption of there culture in Mesopotamia. Its interesting that the circles again found there way to later Carthage according to the excerpt. By reading Atlantide is like reading about these earlier Andites who related to ruins in Malta.

Its interesting that there knowledge derived from Mesopotamia not the other way around.

regards
sevens

Here some pictures on Lixus in Morocco, the outpost of the very early Andite influence. It could give clues to the Early Andite expansion in Morocco. The stone work seems to be similar to the stone work of the Andites. Even though the Romans reshaped the early ruins for there own purposes.

Know this culture also spread into Europe to Spain, Switzerland and Italy and is evident in the region of the circles.

These are the clues.

The King of Atlantis was Urania, Sounds very close the Uran, Urantia, Ur. Again from the east moving west.

http://www.atlantisquest.com/Archeology.html



regards
sevens

Ah!

Its all good, everything is good some of the greatest breakthroughs and discoveries are being made that really changes things and confirms everything, just everything!

On top of everything, that we have discussed and you wouldn't believe it. All coming from the sea, all hidden and realms of the Sons of Gods all awakening mankind with it s message from the Abyss.

Its amazing what Atlantis/Eden/ have done for us and where it has lead us, to another place. Gain prophecy fulfilling itself.

Man O man!!! really!!! I just give all honour and praise to God, I honestly do with what has been discovered. Everything has just lifted on to another level and its all to do with the discovery of the original Annanuki of the Sumerians, The king list is true believe me!.

Those who have ears know what I'm talking about.

I'm telling you Wow! Everything is 100% true and confirmed from another source of discovery.

This journey is bigger than what I expected. Much much bigger. It Blatant know and the sevenfold and its truth and origins is arising.

Its the best
regards
sevens

Is this the Seventh part of Enochs 10th week scenario??

Is it the discovery of the Sevenfold in physical as related to its physical and spiritual origins??

Is this there presentation through discovery?

sevens

Yes I thought that was brilliant. I really loved the parable.

In the spirit of the parallel, about 2 weeks ago I shared a proposal of discovering of lost city called Dalamatia in the Persian Gulf that Ive been searching for thinking it could be in of 3 places. The idea of the discovery was a joint venture of the Quran and The Urantia Book and all the other religions of course being a apart of all our spiritual family of Earth.

The idea to see a fulfilment of prophecy for both books as a way edification and to expand ourselves in the hope of greater knowledge and understanding resulting in peace.

That was the idea, I'm not sure where the posts went However last night I was exploring the Persian Gulf and actually discovered the lost city and its vestiges as described.

Technically speaking this discovery (Upon realisation) fulfils prophecy and is within the Quran, that a something will found in the waters or something comes out of the waters or something hidden in the waters. You'll have to find the texts for me but I know its there.

How amazing, Upon finding this was an incredible experience and I proposed this idea within the last week I think it was. Now upon further investigation, some real strong clues and strong indications of the city have been found. To me this feels like the God looked upon the proposal and liked it and thought to take it to the next level through his normal guidance through faith and delivery.

Know that we have good clues its really up to man and you have to understand this place is a very ancient, ancient place that goes back to the what the bible call the Nephilim or The Sumerians called them the Annanuki or they were called the Sons of God who came down to teach man civilisation and after a time rebelled. They are the very Sons of God who fell by agreeing with the rebellion manifesto of Lucifer or Satan. This is where all our troubles came from. This place goes back hundreds of thousands of years and was destroyed around 150,000 years by a tidal wave. This place is linked to Sevenfold which goes back way, way back in history before anything in our history. The only indications we have of this history in our religions through the work of angels over that time to maintain the truth for a time to come.

Seems more apparent to me everyday as we venture in this journey.

I tell you this is better than man on the moon stuff and understand this is two places now. We have Eden in the Eastern Med and you have Dalmatia both residences of the Sons of Gods who came to earth to teach man. Now we are discovering these things, today, now as we speak. A twin parallel in discovery both guided by God for a purpose of realisation which is being revealed as we go forward and where the prophets of the past, all of them saw this event of time/space in realities.

You know! we are all making history and we are all part of the mystery whether one disagrees or not. Its by default of knowing about it.

I'm sharing this journey with you to edify and strengthen those who are losing faith and also a way to bring peace through a discovery not paths of hurt and fear.

Like in the Good Corn parable bringing the spiritual brotherhood of mankind together in faith. The only and easy accessibility to God in faith, discovery and unification.

Any I was thinking of posting a little glimpse to demonstrate this find but I have to see what response of faith there is.

I wont post anything further for it to be taken down and certainly wont post any image.

Anyway that joint proposal of faith is still open and suddenly there is endorsement in the discovery of a glimpse of this location.

That's 2 submerged places of our origins coming to the surface and its delivery of its message to mankind in the way of expanded religion through faith and discovery.

Gets man soul going, stimulates him, brings him real closer to God in his very physical submerged realms for this time.

Personally, if religions of the world cant hear or see this they must all blinded badly. Two locations from the same source. What is man doing not to see this or is he that fearful and cystallised?? Tis goes for all religions not one, all of them.

One lock, key and door in 2 discoveries of mans origins a space/time event of time unification for the future.

regards
sevens

This is the BEST experience discovering our origins. This is real MASSIVE this discovery, forget about all the messages of destruction this is FAR FAR FAR bigger than all that.

This is BIGGER than Ben Hur. Its a real Jag in discovery. The Biggest by far and way bigger than the pyramids.

sevens

Hi Everyone,

Just recently I was doing a some research and study on the Maltese case which was an excellent study. Whilst I was in the Sahara just poking around the place with worldwind a thought came into my mind to check out Persian Gulf for Dalamatia.

I was around the "later" shoreline of the Persian Gulf giving no date could mean any date I suppose.

Just bear in mind that more research has to be done but from what I see the whole place just falls into place in relation with the description in the Urantia book.

Here is Dalamatia or it could be Dilmun to the East of Dalamatia.

For the moment III call this location Dalamatia until the location can be proven true or a mistake.

Within the following link is a collection of images, links and thoughts. Remembering this place was built 500,000 years old and was wiped out by a tidal wave 150,000 soon after the rebellion.

Enjoy.
http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia/index.html



Anyway I wanted to share this discovery with you to see what you thought.

regards
Sevens

The Lost City of Dalamatia

Discovered on the 16-17th September 06.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia/

The Seventh Part, Is this prophecy fulfilling itself? Is this the seventh part in Enoch's 10 weeks and The sevenfold in Isaiah.

The actual discovery of the home of the Gods, the physical residence of the Sevenfold. The discovery of it and the realisation of it.

If all stack up in parallel with the Worldwind bathymetric tiling. This could be real big, That Eden discovered and Dalamatia with 2 years and the second expedition to Eden on the eve of Dalamatia being discovered.

Only the Paradise Trinity could bring this about in time/space.

yea!
sevens

[ 09-20-2006, 07:48 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Yes they were pretty amazing people the Cro Magnons race and all part of the mystery. I thought there main base of operations was in Europe I thought.

Doesn't matter its all good and everything in word seems to forming in physical connection.

It seems to me that the Cro Magnons was a genetic variation of the extensive family of man at that time before modern man admixed and killed him off.

I'm sure the Cro Magnon man was just as adventurous as us in our explorations and curiosities which took him all over the place in his travels.

regards
sevens

Absolutely Brig, they were modern man, Homo Sapiens. However there were Neanthandrals around but they weren't smart enough to know the significant of this place like us today and then. These early Goods taught The Andonites and the higher types of the 7 colored races at the that time, Races that are more akin to us today.

I agree Brig, human beings like you and me. No Peladeans that's for sure.

That's why we became successfull and the other other races eventually were assimilated or were wiped out. They weren't as smart and never had the guiding benefits of the Gods at the time before the fall.

After the fall (rebellion), free for all. 150,000 years ago, the first default, the second 38,000 years ago.

regards
sevens

Hi Brig

Also note in the bible it speaks of the creation of Adam or the Godman Adam but never speaks of the creation of the Gods in such a way. They are referred to as the those who came from Heaven.

Well its heaven, the kingdom of heaven, like Adam from the spiritual worlds descending into man world to teach man to ascend in his spiritual ideals to that of the Kingdom of Heaven.

Also note that when Cain killed Abel he went to the land of Nod , the land of the Nod, a place of a race of people, the Nodites, a pre existing race before Adam. So we can assume logically that a pre-existent race existed before Adam that lived in a place called Nod where they lived.

Also the bible mentions the Sons of God and the mating with women. So we can assume a race of God/man people existed and men of renown, of legends. I would suggest this Godman race is the origins of the Nodites. In the Land of Nod where Cain went and helped build various cities in the Land of Nod. So we have Adam and the Sons of God or really speaking there progeny in two locations, 2 origins as mentioned in the Sumerian King List.

Anyway just some thoughts.

regards
sevens

Hey Ideo,

Hey I really enjoyed your words, with regards to the numbering of Angels, I was thinking maybe there so numerous that its the logical way following order. However I'm sure they have individual names like us. I suppose numbers are like surnames. Gabriel Archangel of the Paradise Son order of a certain number..... something like that.

However, his first name I suppose is personal. The Angels are like us just in a different environment with more resources at hand and looking into another dimension of time/space reality on the physical from the heavenly realms which is about us and what's within us all.

That's why all truth seekers have so much in common and click on when they see it.

Its amazing that through our investigations we we are here looking in the face of another whole new conversation in a whole new ball game with many possibilities. Its like a history lesson of the Gods of Atlantis and changing history at the same time.

The whole story is being revealed in such a fine way and of a such a high level of spirituality and tied in with physical reality in discovery.

Surely NASA in there technology is not comprised that badly to make mistakes that cover kilometers.

The UB makes it very obvious what to look for in it description of Dalamantia. That's why anyone can see it if they read the paper The city of the Prince.

Now if it wasn't there, The UB would of said nothing about vestiges at all. However in its delivery of the place it gives us a huge hint, a very big hint of tablets with writing of the even meal time prayers. Since the Urantia Book gives us the prayers we can work out the writing, the inscriptions,

I think the tablets would be huge. So when there disocvered we can reflect back to this beforehand lead and work out that mystery and connection. pretty cool eh! The work of the Atlantis Gods!

Anyway I reckon the city of Dalamatia looks beautiful and full of grandeur and to know where it leads is just astounding.

You know Ideo, you look into the creek for resemblance of God whether it be in nature in amongst the forest or in the stones. Its all very similar experience, all the same type of thing. Now we are looking at the stones of history that encompasses the annals and Earth and the universe.

Surely we must be witnessing the embrace of the heavenly father through the wonderment of discovery in conjunction with all his children of the universe.

The embrace, Its a real point in history which encompasses the Sevenfold truth and its history but now through its discovery there is a restoration of the Sevenfold embrace so it means healing for the educational system that went wayward 150,000 years ago. This experience is completely essential and has modified the ascension process of mankind and this little planet is a domain of the Archangels. That means there is direct access to Paradise which is different from to how other planets communicate to other realms of existence. The Kingdom of Heaven. The Heavenly kingdom.

I'm probably going on a bit. But its all great and a inspiring journey, truly

By the way what did you think of the Son of Man excerpt in the Nippur tablet and no one knows his name, the Son of Man, The only line that survived by the work of some great seven angel (Its probably Gabriel) who protected that little piece of writing for this time. He was the one who announced his name Jesus to Mary. I think the Nippur tablet goes back 3300BC, have to check on that. But amazing it survived, and that prophecy was fulfilled by the angel who protected that. So as we glean back to that time we can see everything unfold which make sense. Particularly studying the king list of the Sumerians. That's a blow away thing.

All in faith forward we adventure and discover. Fair Dinkum what a journey, even in our short time here.

yea!

regards
sevens

Yes they were pretty amazing people the Cro Magnons race and all part of the mystery. I thought there main base of operations was in Europe I thought.

To me it seems to me that the Cro Magnons was a genetic variation of the extensive family of man at that time before modern man fought them in battled maybe some admixed.  They most likely competed for land and shelter. I think there is a big record of that.

The Cro Magnon man was just as adventurous as us in our explorations and curiosities which took him all over the place in his travels but I'm sure again it was down to survival and adaptation! Like the early ape man found in Ethiopia there were many variations of early primate before us similar to when our species of sentient being arose.

regards
sevens

[ 09-21-2006, 12:14 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Hi Brig

Also note in the bible it speaks of the creation of Adam or the Godman Adam but never speaks of the creation of the Gods in such a way. They are referred to as the those who came from Heaven.

Well its heaven, the kingdom of heaven, like Adam from the spiritual worlds descending into man world to teach man to ascend in his spiritual ideals to that of the Kingdom of Heaven.

Also note that when Cain killed Abel he went to the land of Nod , the land of the Nod, a place of a race of people, the Nodites, a pre existing race before Adam. So we can assume logically that a pre-existent race existed before Adam that lived in a place called Nod where they lived.

Also the bible mentions the Sons of God and the mating with women. So we can assume a race of God/man people existed and men of renown, of legends. I would suggest this Godman race is the origins of the Nodites. In the Land of Nod where Cain went and helped build various cities in the Land of Nod. So we have Adam and the Sons of God or really speaking there progeny in two locations, 2 origins as mentioned in the Sumerian King List.

Anyway just some thoughts.

regards
sevens

[ 09-20-2006, 10:56 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Hi Briwyns

http://www.jameswbell.com/geog0050dnames.html

I looking through the link. I am real fascinated by the link. This is new to me.

I liked this one

"In the Days when Gods Walked
Upon the Face of the Earth"

This was a time before any known time and only retained in religion in the Sumerian case. The time before he fell, obviously something went wrong and the Gods had to mate to perpetuate their ideals as recorded in the bible. The rebellion. Its so long ago however the pure aspects of the scriptures goes back a time before Eden and Adam. When the Gods came down from Heaven.

The narration of the link seems like a family story of dynasty of the kings of in the king states of Sumeria assuming the name of the Gods. But in there own history.

Just a thought.
regards
sevens

Hi Oasis.

I just get what I get, I'm on ADSL I think that helps. But that's what I see. Obviously it needs further work on it to see if what I see is correct. I wrote to NASA about it, they said its a combination of different filters that creates the 3d effect.

I cant zoom in any closer. I don't think there is anything wrong in trying to make connections. It speaks of later coastline which could mean a lower coastline because of lower sea levels. For all we know it was a freshwater sea full of swamps and lagoons. It must of been close to that 22,000 years ago as we know.

The UB says it sunk and then remerged and then sunk again maybe because of higher sea levels. Makes all sense to where it lays. Also the UB describes it in detail, the authors wouldn't do that, if there was no real purpose in it knowing that possibly some guy in the future will stumble on it following the track in faith thus fulfilling the purpose of the script...perhaps?. I don't know speculation.

I don't see anything wrong in sharing these images. You cant just breeze it off like that. What do you get? Actually I don't think I can get better information than this. At this time.

I did try to find pictures of the area but this is all I found. Which wasn't much but I do see slight resemblance of the plain. But that it. If anyone can help here to get better images that would be great.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia/preview_dal.jpg

Oasis, unless anyone can prove me wrong 100% then I stick to what I found. in the way of Dalamatia.

I don't mind pooling information and research but until I can proven wrong then I say Dalamatia because of what I see.

I'm writing further to NASA to get more information.


regards
sevens

 

Hi Oasis

With regard to the settings here is the settings I'm using

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia/view.jpg

I hope this helps you.

I really feel there is something there and what we are seeing is completely described and gives us clues of what can be found there. I can see how the very ancient Sumerians when the water levels were lower how they used those canals for protection from the outside world. Note how protected Dalamatia is. At the ends of the earth protected from all sides.

Here is an overview from the front and an attempt to mark some tributaries and the main river.


http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia/overview_front.jpg



regards
sevens

Oasis.

Im really interested in the the next few panels to the left covering the west, the rest of the headwaters and coastline.

Its looks awfully curious considering the pixelated effects you see on a Google scan. However its very unrealiable regarding Bathymetric and what we see could be an old channel and all kinds of ruts.??

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia/dalamantia.jpg



here is another effect using a weird filter

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia/dalamantia1.jpg

I think the western headwaters look very interesting as well. If its correct this location has some curious shapes that should be explored. With the blue tiling effects it would light the whole place. Very hard to say but interesting shapes and divisions.

That's why I open for the first location to be Dilmun if there is another site to the West near the other headwaters.

Its a strong possibility.

All the best
regards
sevens

Hi Oasis , hope your well.

I'd be interested in looking at your drawings and see the reflection of Eden within you, It would be good to see your work.

I myself have been very interested in the 12 gates of Eden myself. I really believe the authors of the UB inserted that as well knowing that we may be able to identify certain characteristics.

When the Discovery of Atlantis was released they some pictures or early Russian bathymetric mapping. There was an image there that quickly drew my attention and played around with it a bit.

here is the image and what I feel are the 12 gates. Obviously its needs more investigation and proper research of the area.

Note in the following image the outer wall could be to the east further near the ridge closest to the mainland.



also I feel I can see resemblance of the 12 gates in the Mari Seal and note the 2 springs with the 7 concentric circles about the in the top the one in the middle and also pictorial of the Stars and moon, The truth of the Stars, in my view sevenfold truth.

Pictorial on the Mari Seal of the Akkadian

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/mari_cultic_stela3.jpg

About Beetle island III have to research that.

You know Oasis, I really appreciate it when you respond with your ideas as that makes me research as well. I think its so good to pool the information about this beautiful place.

We can come here in brotherhood regardless the variations in ideas. It gives all an opportunity to put forth there ideas. Which can be debated.

I really get this strong feeling the Gods of Atlantis/Eden/Maati just really wants us to have fun and enjoy this discovery with delight as they guide all of us in uncovering the great mystery.

Just think Oasis we are hear at this defining moment in time, in a change history and in religion. At the point of planetary destiny unfolding in the spring air.

This is really truly incredible that we are here to see this all unfold on the run as it happens. Whilst everything about this is serious, I feel there is a light side to it and I think Paradise wants us to sit back, contemplate explore and discover and just have fun finding the truth.

I really the lord for his magnificence and his splendor in his truth and how it happens. Fantastic!

Like most stories have an ending, if feel this story will never end once unlocked, it runs and continues for eternity as the truth of the location is in part connected to Eternity.

Man O Man, I say YEA!

All the best
regards
sevens

I was just thinking Oasis,

If all is right and correct with the discovery of Dalamatia. That's is 2 discoveries simultaneous to each other and on the eve of further investigation of Atlantis/1st Eden. Isn't that incredible and so in line with the logic of Paradise.

To add further gravity to the case through the support of Sevenfold through its own discovery, the first physical home of the Sevenfold (before the rebellion).

There is no comparison to this reality. I really feel this the living mystery of mankind. As its revealed it reveals itself through discovery and investigation in physical and in word simultaneously. I reckon that is the Sevenfold mystery of the ancients and there method is in the time/space reality of discovery on levels in time/reality particularly in the beforehand experience, the faith impulse, journey.

Anyway its fun. Like a child discovering something new.

The feelings I get is that these submerged land of the Gods has the total focus of the whole universes, all of them are one in seeing the broadcasts that emerge from this experience. All are united and the Paradise Trinity is personally involved. I feel I recognise this pattern through the space/time walk in discovery in words and then physical.

Everyone is experiencing it in there own way. Its touches the soul level and that really is the point of these discoveries the soul of man and his relationship with the father of all souls in mans own personal way. However these discoveries are the golden grails of religion and the history of our origins. These are the keys to the door and to me are the signs.

These are the crowns as mentioned in the Egyptian Book of the Dead, Revelations. The Urt crown, the spectre, The seven crowns, The white crown. There is a few more crowns. But the crowns is the knowledge in totality and the experience that emerges from this place that is designed for mans destiny, his future.

Going on a bit but if that edifies and makes man stronger I reckon that's OK.

regards
sevens

Hi QOAIS

I'm really sorry for that and I do feel embarrassed about that, I overlooked that. When I write my brain goes faster than my fingers and that's why I make errors like that and overlook things. Plus I get fat fingers error to.

About your experience in sharing your truth about the Urantia Book, I know exactly what you mean. I find that to, I myself have tried to introduce the book the many Christians, I have found that some look at it with curiosity but most reject. That's because of the effect of doctrine and dogma, the same problems arise with Islam to. Ive been kicked of Christian and Islam forums because of sharing truth, connected and in parallel.

Its a planetary problem. However this truth is not design to wipe out someone faith nor to brainwash anyone. This truth is designed for people in general and to enhance there own faith with expanded truth and spiritual experience.

I used to try and explain UB truth which I can successfully but people have to see the truth for themselves. That why we are seeing this demonstration of the Father from the highest levels of the kingdom of heaven at this time. To demonstrate perfection in time space paralleled with existent knowledge of the past and future, so in the future when people research this spiritual and physical phenomena they will be inspired and curious to look upon without nothing being taken away especially through fear.

This whole adventure is a good experience for all religions to ponder. However the problem does lay in crystallisation, always been the problem and with doctrinisation of fear.

This whole experience has nothing to do with exclusivity or being part of the club or anything like that. Its all to do with revealed religion in the revelatory sense and personal spiritual journey between the individual and the Father which Jesus showed of whom is very much involved in this project of love for mankind.

If religions would look at the commonalities rather than the differences they would enjoy greater success. I myself have explored most religions through the books and I see many common that they all share, especially Islam and Christianity. If they would lock in on the truth of Eden in all the books the paths created, it would lead them straight to this location right to this forum.

Also if they would look into Sumerian texts of ages ago, that path set aside in those scripts, would lead them straight to Dalamatia.

This whole experience is part of the realisation of man and its intimate to his soul. I feel its all part of the correction process of the planet by the Kingdom of Heaven but in a very, very classy and sophisticated way.

Doesn't impose nothing on anyone. Personally I wouldn't try and explain everything. Christians have to see for themselves and have to research this. The only thing that would hold them back is simply laziness to research and to be fearful to explore this case of Eden in case its correct and have to face realisation of themselves.

I know the Holy Spirit is here and is very much behind this as a way to stimulate expansion for all man, spiritual expansion through revealment. They should take an interest in this as it is for them and everyone else.

Like you coming here and conversing is very comfortable and easy and that's what it should be. Explore, check out things, read, look at the images and formulate your truth in totality of the knowledge discovered, debate. I'm personally hoping there is enough here to stop the violence spiritual and physical throughout the planet through revelation.

But one thing this path is an easy path in comparison and there so much well spring of sweet waters of truth and its never ending. The sweet waters of truth that are streaming out of 2 locations and look at the timing. Its incredible, it just happens. It like you feel and God does everything in minute detail beforehand and then you discover and connect. There is enough information here and branches where every man from all religion becomes his own priest without any fear whatsoever, he becomes strong as an individual and is not affected by fear.


All the best and great blessings
sevens

Hi  
A curiosity

The temple of Heaven in Beijing note the 3 concentric circles. Where did that circle truth come from? Not from any religions we know today. How did they evolve the symbol of the 3 concentric circles around 700BC, 100 years before Plato? Through there own religion of the past?



and the main temple of Heaven. Again the concentric circles. Why? the concentric circles in China? Where did that come from, Was it the perpetuation of the Melchizedeks ensign that persisted in the Shangdi religion



and again the DNA symbol in the Chinese mythology



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shangdi


and Tian

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tian

Here is what wikipedia says about Shangdi

Shangdi (上帝, pinyin: Shàngdì, Wade-Giles Shang Ti), literally translated, "Above Sovereign", "Above ", or "Lord On High", in Chinese culture, is the name used both in traditional Chinese religion as well as in Chinese Christianity for the Supreme Deity.

There you go, a one God religion from 700BC

In the following you have the Vatican layout and its symbolism which is the keyhole of the door and today we know the key. Also note the 2 springs either side of the middle spring, similar to the Acropolis Hill in Eden.

Also its the same representation as in the Mari seal of the Akkadian.

All part of the Sevenfold truth.

Ive added the Vatican connection to the Tablet of Sevens,

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/mari_cultic_stela3.jpg



 

regards
sevens

A recent post regarding the Tao and the Lao Tze religion in China

• Job 28
  
  27 Then did he see it,(man discovered it, through his research and study.)and declare it; (pronounced it)he prepared it,(made ready the event, discovery)yea, and searched it out.( 1st Garden of Eden through an expedition)
   
  28 And unto man he said, Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; ( God leading man to God)and to depart from evil is understanding.

Ahoy!, Yea!
sevens

[ 09-23-2006, 07:04 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Ok Osama Bin Laden is not dead!

So now Bin Laden is not dead now, why print the first story?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14963302/

I have to say he has aged and looks worn out. I suppose when your into the murder business and on the run its only inevitable that you would look like a mess. Spiritual and physical, surely you cant last perpetuating this crap.

I cant really see how this guy would feel good with the evil he has brought on the planet.

Look at all the uncontrolled murder in Iraq which is because of his rubbish, his crap. Look at his legacy, what a disaster legacy for the planet.

Man O man, what evil that guy brought to the planet earth. With all the religious driven killings based on untruth and false doctrine.

I totally agree with the Pope with what He said he doesn't have to apologize at all. He is totally right in what he did. I completely support his actions.


God only knows that Ive been trying to help this religion in my own way, to help them see what was approaching and to try and curb this crap violence but they flat out reject, so I gave up.

I tell you, that particular religion is collapsing within itself and its totally out of control by these stupid people going around justifying there evil actions killing many innocent people, again using Gods name in vain.

God completely forbids what's happening. That why the religion want last in this form. The truth that is discovered by contrast makes the truth stand out even more.


So interesting, In relation to Dalamatia, they saw all of it happen, in the beforehand experience, within 7 days as a demonstration and a fulfillment of the Quran and the UB linked with a beforehand proposal about Dalamatia before discovery. Me thinking at that time, Dalamantia was in one of three places. Even in light of discovery, still they hid behind doctrine and tore down all the beauty that was discovered off the shores of the Persian Gulf by way of deletion.

Fair dinkum it was all documented in time/space. It was truly a demonstration in light of what was proposed and discovered in time/space and it all came to pass. Its was a gift!! A response and confirmation from the highest.

The proposal was made around 9/11 in relation to Dalamatia and then discover 16-17 Sept. . Now I did this not in the name of crappy ego but in the light of truth to demonstrate a better path rather than violence and a path that was linked to Paradise, directly in the physical and spiritual and the key laid of there waters. It came to pass, it was discovered. Incredible!

Anyway I reckon that was the seventh part in Enoch's 10 weeks judgement process in the flow of time/space.

And still like fear hiding behind a wall of doctrine. That's a religion that is in crisis and it will divide.

Far to stubborn and crystallized in the attitude.

Well that's what I reckon about that operation. A disaster one.

It really needs right leadership and guy to lead that religion properly and make it a peaceful religion that can work with other religions.

I don't think the Pope should of apologized at all he should of stuck to his guns and not folded because of a lesser/lower/nothing message response.

sevens

Thanks Nour of Islam,

I pray great blessings for you in this season to.

I pray with all my heart that peace can issue on the planet.

I pray for all people of the planet, for peace in there lives.

I read the news reports, we live in a upside down world and I pray all will work out fine on the road to peace particularly with all the spiritual families.

All the best and have an nice Ramadan and may God surround you with his love, truth, beauty and goodness.

I really mean that with all sincerity and from the heart in brotherhood.

regards
sevens

So now we are in the seventh part of Enoch's 10 week prophecy! which I believe The Seventh part has been identified.

What now is the next leg of the journey???? see what formulates in faith!

regards
sevens

I reckon he is dead as a doornail.

That's why his sidekick does all death and false doctrine presentations.

I reckon Bin Laden has been removed. Somehow I think the noose is tightening on all the evil crap.

Especially for those who kill innocents in the name of God or any death in the name of God.

Also I saw an even more disturbing thing with the Christians.

Apparently there is a fat lady in the US who raising kids to be part of the army of God, its the same thing that happens to many kids in Pakistan's Shania schools. It seems that today that Christian kids are being taught hate against Muslims but in the name of Christianity. Its the same thing in a reverse reaction.

However I think its just another a new generation being brainwashed with doctrines of division taught to hate.

That lady is causing another disaster.

There is nothing more sickening than to seeing a young innocent Christian kids talking in the same terms as these terrorists. Its a real shame to Christianity to be teaching such terrible things in reaction to the rubbish going on overseas. They teaching this they don't now what they are doing.

I have serious doubts about Christianity in the states, sorry I just think they have become very limited and doctrinised and does not fully represent Jesus and his beliefs about the relationship with the Father. Not at all, Its a him against us thing. Nothing to with God.

I reckon they really have to get there act together, seriously. They are not attractive at the moment to attract people to there religion. A poor witness.

regards

So now we are in the seventh part of Enoch's 10 week prophecy! which I believe The Seventh part has been identified.

What now is the next leg of the journey???? see what formulates in faith!

See what uncovers!! from 1stEden/Atlantis/Maati.

You know this is still a great mystery full intrigue and now its from 2 places.

That is quite amazing from the same UB source and in Sumerian texts and all the books.

To me that's is a real spiritual journey of high adventure on the high seas discovering ancients submerged sites of our origins from 2 places.

You can read all about in time past and in the future from all the BC books in parallel with physical discovery. What better testament is that too religion that emanates out a book in tandem with all the books of the past and a testament of the journey on the spiritual/physical realm.

And its bloody normal and relaxed and full of fun in the discovery and search. Personally I can see this being apart of the annals of history, everything that surrounds Eden and Dalamatia and all the personal experiences and what unfolds in the final analysis will the a major Testamony in time/space and the spiritual/physical all guided by simple faith, that's it...

No doctrine no dogma,, all finished. Brings to many wars no peace all but division. There is enough resources here for everyone to be there own priest, individual priest.

No one needs that, that I own you dogma, or you must submit to our purest forms, or else. Everyone can be relaxed about themselves in finding there own truth that doesn't take nothing away from them, let alone there freedom through imposition of doctrine.

Sick of seeing all these dominant factions influencing people with erroneous ideas of rubbish of spiritual maladjustment that can not be substantiated or measured in the best way possible. And if there is any measurement its deleted.

That's it, no one has to be owned by anyone, anymore. We can all think, research and read for ourselves and see the results from every aspect from every individuals prospective. All can be measured and based upon existing information and led through a simple faith thing.

Anyway, its all seem pretty good to me and I am completely impressed how all these discoveries came to pass in the natural curiosity of man, being led by God in the most beautiful way seeing the markers in the texts that were laid and able to share it.

Which is all part of the living mystery of mankind, to share it with mankind, to ad light whilst on the run, to reveal on the run, a phenomena of space time that only the Gods know of. God and man which is intimate, based on the personal individual very much inline with the true teaching Jesus, the Man. His realisation and relationship with the Father of Heaven. All that is personal and initiate in a persons own personal individual way. That is held sacred in Paradise. Personal choice and individuality. The personality and the happiness of the personality, the person. That's concerns God. You know The Love.


regards
sevens

[ 09-24-2006, 08:25 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Hi Qoasis,

I really enjoyed reading your post, I am very inspired with what you wrote about being in an open classroom, learning as we go forward to discover and explore further. Absolutely only way to go. Truly the path of the Atlantis Gods or better still The Kingdom of Heaven.

Only way to go as the angels are working with all individuals in there own personal way, everyone has there angel. Truly I feel that much confidence and good spirituality will come out of this for mankind and for each of us in our own way. Its like the rebuilding of the temple as we explore truth, beauty and goodness in spirit and in physical.

This forum is the best place to be on the planet Earth/Urantia. This place is like a haven of peace and truth, discovery with open doors for all man of any persuasion. Like the Temple is Open! Doors Open for all. Everyone is invited. Everyone. The temple of Goodness.

I feel the Father just wants to bless us with his beauty of history and origins embedded in space time of which we can reflect upon and just be impressed by everything and the personal experience of finding God in a very meaningful personal way.

That's what its all about Fun Fun Fun in discovering God. Why should it be anything be lesser in the home of God. Its where the Gods play and enjoy the light of truth and God and we are partaking in the food of the Gods of Atlantis which has the full participation of the Paradise Trinity. In other words we are partaking of the Tree of Life as we journey on this. Truly Supernal, sublime and all encompassing.

Honestly, I find it so hard to study things that I should regarding world things. I must admit I am totally absorbed in things of God that surrounds this discovery and the other discovery of Dalamatia. 100% blessed by the experience and I honour Robert Sarmast for his endeavours and sacrifices to make this journey possible. I also honour the Father in Heaven for making the road clear for this totally enjoyable experience that takes nothing way from anyone. Nothing from no one. Yet anyone can participate.

This is journey of the future and all students of education should look to this place as the truth unfolds and feel inspired and relaxed that there is great truth there This place looks to the generations of the future and seeking the leaders that will help fix the planet, into a planet that is worthy of universal induction in the Kingdom fo Heaven.

OOh man, this is good, fair dinkum this is truly the journey of the Paradise Trinity and the whole universe, complete!

Out of this will come many spiritual leaders that will by strengthened by the truth in there own space/time experience in his relationship with the Father of Heaven. Man and future leaders wont be tainted by untruth and temptation of power and such things because man, now and in the future will be imbibed with a greater truth that will connect direct to Paradise and desire not to take advantage of his brother and therefore the planet will be much better off and be administered in a communal sense of brotherhood and sharing and look for each other, as one planet, as a true spiritual brotherhood.

Anyway that what I feel.

Changing the subject

About the great river running out of the east out of Eden, After the flood there was uplift which curtailed the river flow to the east. Its be a great archaeological study to see if in fact there are remnants of the river that connected to the Euphrates. To go out there in Syria and try and find the remains in Syria. Ive looked at it Worldwind and Google and you can see kind of thing where the river flowed and where it connected to the Euphrates.

I might change my subjects to Archaeology and devote it to this place and the other location. I am so inspirited I'm jumping out of my boots.

The eternal wellspring of joy and happiness and we are in the point of truth, The Capstone of our origins.

Big Blessings
sevens

Another thing, what this industry of carbon credits, making money of Carbon, if we changed industry there would be no need for such a thing. It almost sounds ludicrous making money on pollution?? That kills us, that were fed with everyday for what? profit?

Isn't that upside down and illogical?

Personally I would like to see a whole range of new technologies used for all kinds of things. The third word completely up stepped in free technologies cleaning water and supplying hot houses or whatever for food and clean water. Also all the education revamped all paid for by the planet from the reduction of Fuel costs and the people helped in education in technology and growing new foods and really an advanced world. Word economics should be revamped so it just fair without compound interest, I'm not sure about interest upon interest, debt upon debt. Man cannot be enslaved in a lifetime of debt control in worry and stress.

I would think simple low interest debt is better than compound interest.


Man can pay of debt Quick. A get a house quick paid for or built for him by housing subsides at a fixed simple interst rate component.

Like 100,000 dollar house he pays 10% simple interest he 10,000 in interest over the life of the loan not 300,000 over the life.

Personally I feel no interest but perhaps a community contribution or something put back in society, like helping other people build houses.

Banks should only be a facility of non profit where they are a service to man and not the Banks controlling man and his future destiny by debt.

Banks and Energy should all non profit only here as a service to man not to make profit on his life.

I'm not sure how people feel about that??

Man has to be as free as a bird, for many to own a house is important and should be made available quick and easily obtained which is important se he has a sense self worth and belonging through family stress free. High debt holds him back from that more so than ever before.


regards
sevens

It would make a big difference for the planet if we had these ecars and even delved in to anti gravity like in stars wars using a small amount of anti matter or something to repel gravity.

Perhaps create a force against gravity. mm I wonder, could that ever get off the ground?? Like that would be our new flying machines.

I must say there was lead in the UB regarding an unknown energy at that time in 1934.

I was following the thread which led me into the ultimatum which make up the electron and is separated in three levels relating to spin cycle and weight of each ultimatum. I think there was a relationship between spin cycle and heat or something?

I'm not sure III have to do a restudy on that and try and find that relationship that could to the discovery of that unknown energy I suspect it could be related to Fusion.

The UB is good that way where it gives you clues and then you back engineer. assuming the outcome related to certain events under certain conditions. Its the understanding of these minute particles assuming the info is correct which gives us the thread for the exploration of the discovery.

sevens

[ 09-25-2006, 12:33 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

I moved the post to hydrogen it was getting to long and I felt I was crowding your thread.

In the following thread further down is some thoughts and research and antimatter energy, the energy of uptopia.

http://forums.atlantisrising.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=13;t=000083;p=1#000005

I was inspired by your thread which led me in this direction.

all the best sevens

[ 09-25-2006, 06:33 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Hi Falling sky, I enjoyed the links but was very alarmed how the dumbing of students is occurring.

I know that the same thing is happening with religion to. People are being taught stupid things that hail from no point of truth at all in the scripts. All but nothing in the way of evidence with their notions. I challenge them all of there ideas regarding many things.

It could be part of some spiritual conspiracy I'm not sure but I know the dumbing of religionists is more evident even in the light of truth and discovery.

Personally I think religions should stick only to spirituality in improving the soul of man, not to influence education because its says something difference in there doctrine which we know is faulty or does contain limited perceptions particularly in data.

Like the literal account of the creation story replacing evolution. The whole story is an account of creation evolving over time as we pass through each day. Like a creative process through a evolutionary process of time. Its both.

Ive been on these Christian and Moslem forums with the evidence and explanations but they all ban you particularly the Christian sites, they are the most aggressive and when you look at the posts you just shake your head to there limited ideas and unrealism that makes no sense. Even in the worlds of God.

Anyway I know I follow the UB and look for similar commonalities in all the religious books of the world, However the difference there is there is very strong attempt to present the science in addition to the content of spirituality. To bring some balance and realism.

The fundamentalist Churches have to get real and realistic and accept discovery and in word and the evidence. Unless they humble themselves in there error, they will keep on going until we have a complete disaster because of a failure to see, read and accept the truth as it can be measured.

Why even Genesis clearly describes this creative/evolutionary process over time, even the ancient Sumerians subscribed to this process.

In these days you have Christians in light of this are being made dumb because of bias and prejudice in there attitude and doctrines thus failing to see and accept the truth.

So in light of science they become absolutely stupid and worse still there children become even more stupid. It becomes a generation of dumb religionists guided by things and truths that have error and is incomplete.

Well Eden and Dalamatia dispels all this stupidity when it come to religion. It flies in there face they either accept or the become pride filled an keep on going erroneously.

If religions would drop that better than thou or the I know all attitude and the embrace today's science in conjunction with all the information that is available and see and explore the truth. I think we are heading into a world of disaster currently.

They should separate Church and State period. We see the disastrous results for world peace, because its all because of bloody religion guiding this disaster of mankind. Its all about the religion.

Churches these days in what they teach needs over hauling in light of what is being discovered.

Anyway I know what I say makes no difference, lets see what the evidence says eventually.

All the wars today are guided by stupid and dumb religion, They have failed in there duty of care, miserably, utterly failed in there attitude towards another.

And provoking these wars perpetuating there name brand agenda by provoking the other. Shameful and then have the gaul to preach all the rubbish that Jesus does not agree with, at all.

I say to the Churches and there knowledge, Get your act together!

Gee just look at the knowledge of antimatter in the above, that's religion and science working together to discover antimatter and its purposes for the future world. However this energy is powerful and the planet has to be more spiritual and re aligned in truth before the energy can be given. Because we are spiritually not ready for this energy in our current bias and prejudice.

That's both worlds working together, science and spirituality, the maturity of the Gods. Its like with the discovery of Eden or Atlantis and eventually the expedition to Dalamatia is all the work of science and realistic religion working together, a harmonisation of truths on different levels or dimensions.

All the best
sevens

Just looking at the Antimatter research.

If the planet could develop this technology by following the leads in the UB we could achieve the technique of drawing useful and clean energy from antimatter.

The energy source of the Gods of creation. Remembering this world of creation is of matter which is the opposite to anti matter. Every ultimaton has antimatter not mention the electron.

I feel there would be a easy technique and devices that could be built to harness this energy from the atmosphere which is full of antimatter within the electron, within the ultimaton.

All man would have to is love one another properly full of Gods love and we would all live on a world that would be energy with no real cost except in manufacturing and distribution appliances.

Everything would run on this antimatter and its space force potential. The benefits are no wastage, no cost, clean, never ending, Its all part of creation energy, sevenfold manifestation.

A clean world, clean water, clean food, housing for all run independently by anti matter. Giving mankind, all that he needs, the basics and would give man more time for leisure, family and enable him to aspire to higher things in life.

No energy companies in the way we know them today and its profit making motivation. No one will be riding on the backs of other because there is no need to. Everyone will be happy and comfortable and will be devoting there time to creative projects for the benefit of mankind.

This goes for everyone, anywhere, no matter who.

This I believe this is where we are heading to. It will be a utopian world and is in line prophecy of the past.

There will be no problems and energy will be the least of our problems.

We wont have to slave for a living just to survive and pay bills. It wont be anything quite like we have today.

It will be like heaven on earth with no worries because there will be a global government that will have all resources to help uplift man on the physical. This government will be guided by individuals who desire to do good for man and not be selfish unto himself. Also there will Paradise representative to help us through this transition not to mention while new retune of Angels in the physical.

It will be partly angelic world and material world. You know what I mean, to 2 dimensions will be closer together because of greater spirituality and truth.

However the thing that has to be dealt with is the truth of man and his soul. Man with evil or selfish intentions will not be apart of this world. No way man. But we can look forward to a great future and a stress free life having all the basics at very little cost if at all.

It will be a stark contrast to the absolute rubbish we see today. I tell you in comparison to all the evil, this new world will be not be like this world. What we see today will be totally forgotten, it will seem like a very bad dream mankind has just went through.

Man has always known there was free energy but he is bent on profit and selfishness and decided that man could not have this energy.

This is where the problem is, man evil intent to get something for nothing and to control it at the cost of others.

Look at the energy companies that are privatised. Why have the profit margin in there when we can own it and make it cheaper. Energy companies that are privately owned don't care about the consumer that's just propaganda.

All they care about is profits. Like why have toll privately owned toll roads. Why should there be any profit in this kind of infrastructure when we can own it ourselves and run it at a cheaper cost. They don't invest in infrastructure if there is no money in it, even if it provided a good service for a few.

That's why there should no profit in energy when it for free from anti matter a gift from the Gods


regards
sevens

We really do live in a upside world now.

Even the heads of the world doing deals to condoning torture.

Bloody useless government aren't they smart enough to extract information. There just impatience again wanting quick results.

I'm appalled in light of discovery and here is bloody government talking about torture, its all bullshit the whole conflict especially when you know and discover the real truth that lays in the waters. Its so bloody easy to know the truth and to live it and you see this going on. Fair dinkum just pisses me off something chronic.

I wouldn't be surprised if religion is in the background somewhere creating all this. Its just full of hypocrisy the whole lot of it. Its all just so wayward and weak. All the leaders are not activating to the real sublime truth appearing however there all activating to the truth of crap in there actions and words.

Then you have the politicians bantering to the religious right who have failed dismally in there manifestation of truth, all divided full of error with mainly judgmental doctrines not even living to the words Jesus in simple faith and goodwill in simplicity.

All of them, everyone of them have failed and do represent a bad witness to the religion of Jesus, not about him, of him.

Show me a good leader who is really connected and knows his religion in real truth and manifestation. I cant find not one.

There is non around! There all sucked in.

Personally, I think the Paradise Trinity is NOT happy with these kinds of religions, not at all. These judgmental better than thou religions who impose there will upon others through fear off doctrine. They will utter fail and will not be allowed into the kingdom of heaven if they persist in this imposition of will with error.

A normal individual who goes about his daily business no matter who with willingness to do the right thing in accordance to what is right within his soul, as it speaks to him in truth and manifest it that builds and uplifts his fellow man. Has far better chance of entry and he doesn't even have proclaim a thing. Because its the results of his actions that speak louder than words.

That's what Gods sees, these things of value, spiritual value not the crap and bad results that come out of mans mouth.

Well I'm certainly glad that the Paradise Trinity totally respects free choice, liberty of the individual, even though it comes to the place man has full choice to explore his truth in his life and need not to be held back by any human mad or created doctrine.

The truth of Jesus in real truth is all representative of that.

Fair dinkum, liberty of the spiritual in truth beauty and goodness and nothing lesser. And let no one take anything away from anyone, let alone there love and family and there inner beliefs.

regards
sevens
 

You know we could be all approaching the final resolve in the matter of the rebellion with all these important discoveries of our origins I believe are part of the great mystery of man unfolding.

Its a huge mystery and has been all on the run in space time.

What can I say its all part of the Testamony of man in his journey in the search of Eden that led to the secondary discovery of the first original place of the Gods that descended to earth to tech man but ultimately failed in there duty of care some 150,000 years ago.

As a witness to all this I feel these are the signs of a great transition and every part of this time/space experience is all very much involved in Jesus and his new world to come.

Take heart for changes I feel are on the way on all levels of knowledge and understanding. Just know the Paradise Trinity is involved in these operations and they are very close to the heart of the Father in the kingdom of heaven.

The Father of all his children on earth.

We could in the face of the great resolve that could literally lead us into a utopian world of something you wouldn't believe. Full of love and free energy b that is clean run by antimatter , the creative wonder powers of the Gods.

This world will be only reserved for those with faith, simple faith in the message of love for one another, its a time for simple self reflection upon ones own inner soul and its true loving connection with the Father of all.

all the best
sevens

The Lost City of Dalamatia

Discovered on the 16-17th September 06.

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia/

The Seventh Part, Is this prophecy fulfilling itself? Is this the seventh part in Enoch's 10 weeks and The sevenfold in Isaiah.

The actual discovery of the home of the Gods, the physical residence of the Sevenfold. The discovery of it and the realisation of it.

If all stacks up in parallel with the Worldwind bathymetric tiling. This could be real big and could have major consequences, That's 2 locations of direct origins, Eden discovered and Dalamatia within 2 years and the second expedition to Eden on the eve of Dalamatia being discovered.

Only the Paradise Trinity could bring this about in time/space.

Its a real living Testamony. Its all part of the ark of his Testamony.
yea!
sevens

[ 09-25-2006, 06:40 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Thanks Big Fat Flurry Texan,

Thanks for the response, Ah! I just get so annoyed with it all with what I see. Honestly there is no reason why we have to live in a world like this, that is in such a bad state of error. On all levels.

I just hope someone takes some real leadership somewhere but I have my doubts about it all. I'm not sure whether man himself is actually capable of improving things. Maybe its all to far over the edge.

Something has to get better somewhere. I mean there is allot stuff going on where does it lead to in the final analysis?? See what happens, everyday is a new day, different developments.

I have to laugh, you there are no virgins in heaven. This is the only time we are sex creatures. Its the only time in our eternal future that we actually are capable of part making babies. They don't know what there on about at all. Again another complete error of doctrine guided by lust that makes people want to kill the innocent people. What type of religion is that, a terrible one full of false doctrine in respect to that particular point. Anyway I don't think I could get around 72 virgins unless I was superman or something.

All lust and a quick way out when they perform this killing rubbish for 72 virgins that don't exist and counts for nothing except great sorrow in both camps. Good Muslims who think like us deserve much better than all that false teaching about virgins.

Although in saying this for those who by reason of physical impairment or no opportunity there is compensations in heaven for those who totally miss out of the total experience of a human. I think Heaven is pretty cool, however heaven does not consider those who have opportunity but throw it away for some erroneous idea for example in killing others or forcing there will on others. No way man, there is one way and that is to do good for others unconditionally. absolutely unconditional. Like a good friend you can rely on.

Take care and all the best and regards
from oz land

sevens

Falling sky , I really enjoyed the information relating to all the different type of low cost clean engines. It was quite an assortment, it only shows you that when is unhindered and left to think and create , its amazing the results he gets.

It was incredible to see this record before the oil and car companies wiped them out and put there technology in the closet. Out of touch from the rest of mankind.

Falling sky if I had the money I would set up a non profit organisation propose a joint venture with Joes ecar in development and upgrades. It would be company that would not be controlled by directors as we know it who are in it for the money.

It would be company that could not be brought or sold but run as non profit organisation where profits are reinvested back into the company in the way of R&D. For the welfare of the purchasers and costs, Distribution would be through existing working factories who would provide an extra service in addition to there normal operations.

Slimline company, not top heavy and not used as a gravy train by the directors and profit hungry animals who are mostly are lazy. Not all. Present companies these days are just revolving doors for such like directors who are only in it for the money and couldn't give a damn for the rest.

Anyway that's a little proposal of the future, even though its fictional you never know some money might like it and get some action going on.

All I know if this non profit company was set up upgrading and developing the ecar, you watch the car companies would panic.

They would 2 things, destroy the idea as the costs would be to cheap for them compete or go with the flow by getting this technology out there.

One way or another fossil fuels will have to go. Its to dirty and inefficient and it destroys the planet. In how many years? within a hundred years we have this , in 200 years we will have nothing left if we persist.

Even though man close to antimatter with respect to energy, his spirit is not right nor ready for the energy of the Gods.

Currently man is to lazy and money hungry for that. Plus it will be an energy that will not be under the controls of wrong people.

That's probably why transitional change is occurring and on the way.

I just feel there is big correction on the way for these multi Transnationals companies. Particularly the ones that are fronts for religions and secret societies.

Anyway there may be an idea in there somewhere, Instead of just talking about , I'm trying to come up with some solutions. Maybe if there is a money guy he can get it going.

If you like the lead go for it.

If had the money I would do it or get it going. Doing something rather than nothing, least with ideas. It all comes from ideas and then the will. But there has to be a cohesive vision which consistent to the survival of the planet.

regards
sevens

[ 09-26-2006, 02:54 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

 [QUOTE] Over the next few years mankind will be subjected to the possibility of universal knowing on a scale that could only be called a "revelation." Soon we may all learn that all those ancient words that our ancestors were in awe of will suddenly come into a living understanding that will cause a new birth [/QUOTE]

absolutely, if all is right and true in discovery for sure. I hope so, the planet really needs some healing including all of us. Apparently if we don't change our ways we only have abut 50 years before it gets real bad. If by chance we transition now we can stop it in 50 years.
I hope for good change Orion 100%

I hope you're on to it actually I hope were all on to it in our own for all our sakes.

regards Sevens

Hi

I'm really fascinated with antimatter and its possible uses as utopian energy for the planet. It appears that that there is still many unknowns about antimatter because we probably know little about what makes up an electron.

Here is the wikipedia thoughts on Antimatter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antimatter

here is another link

http://livefromcern.web.cern.ch/livefromcern/antimatter/index.html

Also here is the Urantia Book thoughts on the Ultimation and how they make up the electron. It may unlock some secrets.

UB antimatter and its properties and links with the universe.

I thought it could unlock perhaps a different approach in unlocking the secret of creation. Apparently the secret is in ultimaton which makes up the electron and its all to do with the energy wavelike manifestation that is exchanged with the ultimaton of the electron. Antimatter is related to the axial spin of the ultimaton and its position from the nucleus.

Apparently within the nucleus of the ultimaton is Paradise.

To create a space force reaction I think you have to speed the axial revolution and its related electrical charge.

Its a weird energy and is part of the creative energy of the universe. Antimatter is everywhere and permeates the earth, scientists should look more into the electron for the answers.

Perhaps they should conduct some theories through back engineering the UB info. Its an idea.


regards
sevens

[ 09-27-2006, 06:49 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Hi Sophia777

How is it going? I really enjoyed your post. I to are really fascinated with Hindu prophecy. I think there is much truth in the Hindu scripts as well as Buddhist scripts. I have to say with in all the things going these Eastern religions are a good witness in the attitude, they shine above all of them. I think Buddhist and Hindu are the 2 religions that have arisen above the rest.

The 2 pacifist religions I think outshine the rest with regards to there truth and peace and goodwill amongst mankind. I know the Urantia Book has very good things to say about these religions particularly in the times of transition.

Why I myself was looking at the Hindu truth when I noticed info in relationship to the white island and its latitude. With that in mind, I thought of Dalamatia in the Persian gulf, straightaway. Whilst the latitude given in the interpretation was slightly off, it was real close. That was a collaboration of the Hindu texts and the UB truth.

I even posted the extract before discovery of the place, that's if NASA technology is not just a big mistake.

However sometimes I get worried about the whole thing even though those of simple child like faith have nothing to fear. This world has descended into the pit and its awfully dark.

For me I have been following the Enoch judgment process, somehow I got drawn into its end progression through self proclamation and gut feeling.

The only thing that I could see coming from that in my experience was the discovery of Dalamatia (if the data is correct) which was in the seventh part of Enoch judgment process. From this point onwards I don't know where it goes from here. Its like its an open judgement, if it all?? Lets see!

There has not been a judgement in the sense of wipe out however in my short time here I have noticed some improvements in world attitude (I think). Like the raised sense of consciousness about our present situation and hopefully on the path of doing something positive about it.

That's the only reason why I release all I find so that hopefully the info will get to the right people who then can further the study as they may be in a better situation to manifest truth and actively help the planet.

I don't think man is quite capable of the big challenge we have before us in his present spirit, however things can change. At present I still think all is being refined including religion and ourselves.

Well hopefully all this helps the situation we are in and really speaking we have no choice but to transition if we are to exist as a species.

I mean to say If I could live to 200 years I would like to go outside and have fun rather sitting enclosed within a house unable to go because of sun and have nothing to eat.

Also if we don't change our ways, the rain will stop and we will run into world food shortages. I mean this is close, it doesn't take much for things to change especially if its a runaway scenario with climate.

We can only literally pray and have faith that all will come good at the end of the day.

All the best and thanks
regards
sevens

Hi Sophia777

How is it going? I really enjoyed your post. I to are really fascinated with Hindu prophecy. I think there is much truth in the Hindu scripts as well as Buddhist scripts. I have to say with in all the things going these Eastern religions are a good witness in the attitude, they shine above all of them. I think Buddhist and Hindu are the 2 religions that have arisen above the rest.

The 2 pacifist religions I think outshine the rest with regards to there truth and peace and goodwill amongst mankind. I know the Urantia Book has very good things to say about these religions particularly in the times of transition.

Why I myself was looking at the Hindu truth when I noticed info in relationship to the white island and its latitude. With that in mind, I thought of Dalamatia in the Persian gulf, straightaway. Whilst the latitude given in the interpretation was slightly off, it was real close. That was a collaboration of the Hindu texts and the UB truth and what I think is Dalamatia.

I even posted the extract before discovery of the place, that's if NASA technology is not just a big mistake.

However sometimes I get worried about the whole thing even though those of simple child like faith have nothing to fear. This world has descended into the pit and its awfully dark.

For me I have been following the Enoch judgment process, somehow I got drawn into its end progression through self proclamation and gut feeling.

The only thing that I could see coming from that in my experience was the discovery of Dalamatia (if the data is correct) which was in the seventh part of Enoch judgment process. From this point onwards I don't know where it goes from here. Its like its an open judgement, if it all?? Lets see!

There has not been a judgement in the sense of wipe out however in my short time here I have noticed some improvements in world attitude (I think). Like the raised sense of consciousness about our present situation and hopefully on the path of doing something positive about it.

That's the only reason why I release all I find so that hopefully the info will get to the right people who then can further the study as they may be in a better situation to manifest truth and actively help the planet.

I don't think man is quite capable of the big challenge we have before us in his present spirit, however things can change. At present I still think all is being refined including religion and ourselves.

Well hopefully all this helps the situation we are in and really speaking we have no choice but to transition if we are to exist as a species.

I mean to say If I could live to 200 years I would like to go outside and have fun rather sitting enclosed within a house unable to go outside because of sun and have nothing to eat. Then we will reflect upon today leaders in the future and just curse these leaders, who did nothing because of their crap and dirty deals with oil companies for the sake of profit motivation. Every leader take note or else you could be the curse of the world because of your utter selfishness.

Also if we don't change our ways, the rain will stop and we will run into world food shortages. I mean this is close, it doesn't take much for things to change especially if its a runaway scenario with climate.

We can only literally pray and have faith that all will come good at the end of the day.

All the best and thanks
regards
sevens

[ 09-27-2006, 06:45 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

The Taliban, the evil scourge on the world. I saw what they did to Afghanistan what a bunch of uniformed, mislead and uneducated people let alone spiritual, prayers that God doesn't even hear because of there intent and forced will approach, all signs of evil. Absolutely! Paradise doesn't operate like the Taliban losers no way.

Sorry I cant stand that operation and all the Kangaroo justice and execution of women in football stadiums. They are way off the mark of truth.

There is nothing good about the Taliban. I think they are definitely part of the 666 Al Qaeda sequence, all deceived with false doctrine and just plain crap. They get nothing from me. Mind you 666 is embedded everywhere, we know that but it seems so obvious with that terrible operation.

All the Taliban does, is bring disaster upon a society. I think they are a fine example of spiritual losers. To be honest they know the truth online, they know there is something unfolding, but in there disobedience to the truth unfolding, they persist in carrying the 666 ensign. No one will help them let alone Paradise if they persist in forced will religion through destruction, murder and intimidation.

Gee just look at them in Somalia and Sudan, just look at the place. What a disaster those country are now in. Thanks to the Taliban and Al Qaeda for that, evil leadership all in the name of bloody religion in the true sense.

They will not last or even make it in the new world unless they repent and you know they wont do that.

Everything they touch is soiled with evil intent and motivation.

regards
sevens
 

Hey if there are any physicists in the forum, who has the love of mankind in his heart.

Check out all of the above particularly the UB truth in relation to the ultimaton. You don't have to believe the UB (keep your own belief, no worries at all.) but look at this aspect of the ultimaton, there could be things in there that today's scientists are over looking. Maybe you can unlock the secret of utopian energy, the creative energy of God. Antimatter I think is the key and that's why the UB has all the info on it and has revealed it for a purpose and reason.

Its a little kick along, a lead to follow in the most obvious sense.

Maybe! So help yourself to this knowledge if it helps the planet and not the bottom-line.

regards
dennis

Hey BifFatFurryTexan,

No worries I was just making a general statement, I know there are few problems, you are probably right in saying the Buddhist have got it right, I believe that to.

I just hope it all comes good somehow. I feel the more we speak about these things the more we can do.

I just feel like times running out for the planet if we don't make these changes now. Its a challenge for mankind that's for sure. He is in a real pickle where many things are responding negatively like the weather.

No worries hopefully, one day all religions will realise certain things and just wake up to fact of where we are at and what we have to do. That's where they have to support the spirit of mankind in his forward progression not try and prevent man form progress to a better world with peace and respect.

Appreciate the post for sure. Its all very good and helps us all.

regards and have a blessed day.
sevens

 

Ok so he is alive, I reckon prove it, if he is alive, show himself since he is so bold to proclaim destruction and evil rubbish. I that guy had a problem, he should tried to find the solution in debate and doing something useful with his money to find truth. Gee who was his scribe, his religious teacher.

Man O man the guy had 300 million dollars to do something useful with. Something that progress the world but rather we have all this devastation of human life the whole investment into this has completely distracted the world and had wasted its resources on things of doctrine where resources should be spent on saving the planet.

Boy if I had 300 million I would look into antimatter, discovery a lost city in order to prove and debate truth. A far better legacy that would get positive mileage in the way of sustainable truth if it could be proved.

This whole terror campaign is the biggest waste of time for everyone.

I'm really glad that the Pope never officially apologized in getting his point across. I'm sure when he met with the leaders of Islam I'm sure he expressed his views again behind closed doors.

O well! all we can really do is discuss and hopefully lift things on a higher consciousness level. I still think the solution to this problem is through religion and what it reveals along the track.

All the best
sevens

[ 09-28-2006, 06:27 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

 

Hi here is link to a study in George Washington vision that I recently came across.

George Washington Remarkable Vision

I did personalise it to my personal experience in relation to the timeline period based against my personal timeline in this journey. Also there is a link to some recent information that I'm exploring. It could prove to be another key to the transition and financial freedom as a God given right, so man can explore the truth without stress. Absolutely!

If all is right and in truth, I am just fascinated how the whole scenario is linked in to George Washington the very forefather of the USA and to me is instrumental in what is unfolding. Its like its starts with his words and ends with is words.

George Washington's words are ringing very loudly today as the dam of knowledge and freedom is about to break. Even from him!! The very forefather of an incredible nation. Although in reading the prophecy there may be a few stressful things but at the end of the day the key lays in the great USA as shown by the great Angel, since the angel blew a trumpet, III call the angel a sevenfold angel. The one who calls in the mystery.

I believe that angel is non other than Gabriel. The Sevenfold instigator. The caller.

Well in my view, I find it very interesting how everyone in there search are finding connections, in there own personal way.

I'm sure everyone does have the piece of the puzzle and is connected one way or another.

Where does this whole journey lead to now???


all regards
sevens

[ 09-28-2006, 10:08 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

BigFatFurryTexan

You're so right, you wouldn't last long out there in those conditions. Anyone living a life on the run like that, living under constant stress, you're immune system would be down, there would be internal spiritual conflict as the truth would be yelling within, louder than ever but the set prayers, repetition and brainwashing the voice of truth would be subdued and twisted into something rather of a wretched message resembling a spiritual scourge on the brotherhood of mankind.

If he was wiser he could be like us searching, clarifying, debating and putting forth in a peaceful to find the great truth in our personal journey. But in a peaceful way that is constructive and positve to the future, ah in someways.

Oh well that's the way it goes. I'm sure there is a good solution at hand by all appearances. See what happens eh! Its a journey of faith as we attempt to uncover it and define it.

Best regards
sevens

[ 09-28-2006, 10:25 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Hi Brig, well soon find out if your right. We are pumping allot of greenhouse gases and crap in the atmosphere, all of us. Something has to give somewhere. Its seems to be the weather. Gee I mean to say guys have been copping with tornados and all.

I don't know where you get your info but most scientist agree that we are in trouble. It might be nice in the mid usa but the people in Tuvalu are loosing there homes because of the comforts of others. Seems like small sacrifice for the comforts of the larger body. Who cares about the Tuvalans??? Eh! who gives a thought eh! Who knows it might happen to Florida and California. I reckon its happening and the scientist see that! No we just don't want to face reality because our present circumstance is comfortable until those manmade changes affects your personal world.

Have you ever flown through a pollution cloud or see the effects ocean in the middle of nowhere? I have, its pretty dirty crap.

Sacrifice for the comforts of others at the expense of others not good enough, insufficient and unsustainable.

So much for your greenhouse objection!


regards
sevens

Looks like the scourge of El Qaeda has information of Nuclear technology and would use it given the opportunity.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1657901.stm (The image of the real infidels of terror.)

I hope this operation can be stopped in their evil intent, as I suspected these people are serious and think nothing of using this technology against innocent people.

That is what religion Islam is motivating completely wayward religion, off the tracks.

I think the Buddhist have shown the best example of the message of Jesus.

Here is a few anti terror scripts against those who kill innocent people through terrorists actions.

Link


In my opinion.

sevens

[ 09-29-2006, 03:52 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Psycho, I must say my grammar was crappy on that last one, however when global warming starts affecting business and land values on the shoreline of the USA reduce and homes are destroyed, then the government will wake up but it will be to late.

People in the USA will be suffering by then. It will be all to late thanks to the bad decisions of the government of the present day, compromising to the lower message as a way to escaping responsibility.

Isn't that so much like man, weak ass, cant face the challenge.

When this happens to the USA, it is at that point that the population will reflect much anger to oil companies and the governments of today for being selfish and governments succumbing to the effective money persuasions of the those lobbies of those wretched companies who DON'T give a single damn for anyone except there bloody bottom-line. That bottom-line and selfishness will destroy our species and others.

Everyone knows that's true. There is no truth in Washington, honestly its all the money and power scam and has nothing to do with planet and it future, oh! except a nothing future, if we don't change.

The Oil companies will destroy this planet, there is no two ways about it. Bush the so called Christian plays right into there hands.

Banks control the world and they control energy, pharmaceuticals which is another money bottom-line scam and how they think. Its really how they think that destroys everything.

Yes, who gives a rats arse for the Tavaluns, even Australia wont help them in visas for a new home. That's how selfish Australia has become and yet we are partly responsible for there demise like in the mid USA. Just as responsible.

OK for us to take there resources and destroy there home and identity but when they need help we just say pissoff.

That's the attitude. Just selfish all the way, rotten to the bone when it comes to these things. Every Government is rotten and is in parallel for the future, what future?

As I'm discovering there is a way out of this financial debt bondage that began 210 years ago and ended in 1999, but no one, who knows is going to tell you squat. You have to find that for yourself. That's what I'm doing. Bankruptcy that does affect countries, However the creditors have to supply a solution or remedy of discharge, in the case of a country this affects every person.

The US has been bankrupt, technically since the day of independence, because the US never finalized there debt from this early commerce in this time. . The debt had to be paid back in 1999 but at a huge expense to the citizens of the world of whom had no idea of this. Because of the failure of the US to discharge the bankruptcy in 2 opportunities that led to enslavement of people for all those years having total control. That status has changed and new opportunity is on the horizon that free us. But no one will tell you this, that's the deception and the nefarious schemes of cal.

Your birth certificate is the key, knowing this the government has leveraged on this when you where born and there is financial premium taken out on this based an average age of 62. But you don't know this, no one told you this, your birth certificate is your way out. But those in control who know this wont tell you this because they are maintaining the scam to control your ass.

There maybe a way out of lifetime perpetual debt but only God can really effect this. Remember everything in this method has all to do with honour and dishonour, the legal system is set up that for those who argue are in dishonour. They are masters and experts in manipulation. But God sees everything and is on the move!

Which he is doing!

Technically the Bankruptcy of the States has been discharged in 1999 and because of that, there is a solution of debt discharge and exemption. But no one is going to tell you this at all, because they want to maintain control. This what revelations was all about, these people. George Washington's vision was all about this. He saw this evil and spoke about it. The very forefather of the States. However he does see there is an intervention from God, take note ******* bankers.

Its all selfish but there is global solution of debt discharge but you have to find this for yourself. No will tell you this let any bank or institution. Everyone on the planet is scammed., truly. Don't believe what governments or the legal system tell you. There is an almighty scam going on which is illegal and in total dishonour against the wishes of Paradise and mankind.

It might explain our economic paradigm and its upside down, inside out view.

I'm so sure sure God will route this error, grievous error of the selfishness of man upon man. Man living on the back of man making his life a misery of life time debt and over control and ensuring methods that will keep man stuck in the mire of crap.

No freedom, no liberty of the soul just life time debt to some top guy who wants to own your arse and doesn't give a damn for you nor your family.

The system was created not for freedom that's the guise and hype, but for debt service which includes all the people of the world, all mankind. Technically this time is over but there are those that want to maintain it. But it feels good, to them.

This is the very dishonour. God sees Usury as an abomination and thwart the usury system in the new world. Its to devastating for man and his soul and it mixed in with enticement and temptation of the soul.

There is no way a system like have in the usury sense is sustainable. No way!

I think God heres the the prayers of the humble and nice Tuvaluan more so that those stupid prayers for sell gratification and comfort that God doesn't even hear because its all based inner selfishness. III pray that the US government will relocate the them in the Mid US, that seems like a safe place. Oh no cant have that, because there different. But we destroy there homes so we could watch and get fat comfortably. Again on the backs of others.

Bugger you jack, I'm right, the attitude of crap.

regards
sevens
[ 09-29-2006, 04:37 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

 

Its all Crazy, crazy people. The whole of them, so much spiritual maladjustment.

I wish we could get on a more positive subject but we have to loath this if we are to accomplish solutions. The more we express the more the message and our thoughts go out there.

Hopefully this may make a difference.

Personally I think people here, have more sense than those in power. Because the people here are connected in to the spiritual realm of spirituality in there own as it should be and does have balance.

Al Qaeda and nuclear technology, A guy committing mass killings, ravenous banking system, Governments out of control or cant control what is the world coming to.

All recopies of disaster. So where is the guiding light i ask. Where are the changes? waiting, writing and waiting.

Also why did that that guy commit these crimes, was he provoked or made fun off by these same people? I wonder whether we called a loser constantly and got sick of it and snapped. You know for people on a lower level in that society have no hope so nothing to loose. Is this really the effect of the system and its harshness on those whether be it in word or in circumstance.

I wonder if there was any love given to this guy or even help beforehand. Surely there was signs beforehand.

I suspect people looked up him as a loser and treated him such.

I would be interested to know what really happened and what was the provocative action that started this.

Also note that the system that make people like this have a responsibility to, not just him its the fault of the system and know that as people feel more desperate with nothing to loose in case provoked. He was provoked somewhere along the line.

Note that this will arise as people feel more desperate in world of a society who don't give a damn.

That's why countries like Australia and Europe have the dole and such social services to prevent these kind of things happening as people have the basics in life and not just thrown away by society on the streets by a society who don't care for the welfare of these people.

The loser/winner attitude is just an example of cold-heartedness that leads to these disastrous events. The people wonder why, well I wonder!!!

What would expect from society who puts very little in good social welfare and chucks them out to fend for themselves on the streets with no loving care a tall. Nothing, Gods country eh!

Love and respect would of healed that guy and stopped this crap.

regards
sevens

I still remember meeting some Americans when I was living there, telling me how some of them used to beat up homeless people and make fun of them.

Not impressed! but obviously we can see why people snap and do these things. Because there is no self worth left anymore. Like going to Jail , your life is finished in society. How cruel is that. You're marked even though the individual has paid his debt back to society. You are still marked for life. Cruel!

I wouldn't be surprised that something like a provocation happened in this case. I just wouldn't be surprised.

If this guy was shown a little respect and love from society this would of never happened. All it takes is a little loving and a little commonsense spirituality so he can see by example and someone to work with the guy in overcoming his problems. Not the pointing of fingers in the "there goes a loser" crap, society made him loser and the ones who provoked him, not himself.

Like the Tuvaluans out of site with no understanding, out mind who gives a damn! Next ravenous plot!

Also Hollywood also has a major contribution to these problems too in the perpetuation of the The winner/loser attitude. Much to answer for in the way perpetuating unrealism which people mix with there own reality resulting in a disaster as we can see.

The fault is in society not so much the individual and those who condemn and judge and provoke take no responsibility at all. Weak!!

regards
sevens

Totally out of control and depicts a fundamental problem in the society. Its only happens in the States these type of things with frequency. Why!!!

I ask, why? Is the feeblemindedness, an effect of intentional dumbing of that nation producing stupid people. Also 18 year old should be treated as a adult and not like little children.

I know In the British system 18 year olds are treated like adults and we don't have these disastrous problems. Like binge drinking and out of control ego. 18 year old are treated like men, as they should be at around that age. If young fellow are given that respect as man with guidance you wont have all that extreme behaviour of a child still waiting to be treated like a man.

At the moment its like paramilitary over control on young 18 year old that should be respected and taught like a man. Man he should be allowed to have a drink in bar at that age like the rest of the world. Instead he is treated like a child, its all like child's play.

I tell you what when a 18 year old is treated like a man like in the rest of the world all that binge drinking and alcoholism just stops. Because the young adult soon realizes that its just stupid. I know Ive seen it before my eyes the change of 18 year old when he is treated like a man and can have a drink with his dad in a bar. He changes in to more mature person with realism because at the same time his dad is guiding him in aspects of mature drinking and what to watch out for.

Because one day, eventually he will end up in a bar and has to know how to behave normal, even with a few beers under his belt. Mindal control and awareness in this environment, that's how to keep out of trouble. Through thinking and being aware even with a few beers.

Not this kindergarten paramilitary overbearing over control stuff. That hasn't help as binge drinking amongst the young is rife in the states, I wonder why. Treated like kids and yet they are adults.

regards
sevens

Issas words are very beautiful and truthful.

I agree with you said, It seems to come down to education and communication with good parents who were also given the opportunity of soul communication with there parents. Also having being aware of all the spiritual knowledge is important. Having all the knowledge is a absolute must for a relative stable future.

Unfortunately, you will not get the full truth in Church because extreme bias, crystallized doctrine and limited knowledge this also happens in the schools as there is an emotive element.

Unfortunately, to find the real truth you have to search that for yourself. No man who is in it for himself will not give you that information.

Not at all! because his fat survival is living on your back. In one way or another. Its like interdependency which is normal but with a selfish motive. This is the problem.

Everyone is in the same boat and some abortions can be a direct result of poor information, not being aware of life and the hurdles it unfolds, like in such matters.

all the best
sevens

[ 09-29-2006, 07:00 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]
 

Well if that is true, that is good news and hopefully it will be used for peaceful purposes and the technology is spread with the western worlds as the western world technology have given China technology for there world.

I hope that is reality and I hope China implement that technology as good example of caring for the planet as a whole.

I think that is great good on the Chinese for thinking of things.

Its funny they probably dislike Oil companies and want them out of there lives and be free from them. The Chinese could help the planet there by example! Next they make emission free cars, ecars know they have fusion. I reckon they will to that would be there next task.

Hopefully they will be cool and help the planet as whole.

regards
sevens

Well if that is true, that is good news and hopefully it will be used for peaceful purposes and the technology is spread with the western worlds as the western world technology have given China technology for there world.

I hope that is a reality and I hope China implement that technology as a good example of caring for the planet as a whole.

I think that is a great good for the Chinese for thinking of things on there own.

Its funny they probably dislike Oil companies and want them out of there lives and be free from them. The Chinese could help the planet by there by example!

Next they'll make emission free cars, like ecars now they have fusion. I reckon that would be there next task. little Emobiles the same should happen in India.

That would be easy with the technology around.

 

Well if that is true, that is good news and hopefully it will be used for peaceful purposes and the technology is spread with the western worlds as the western world technology have given China technology for there world.

I hope that is a reality and I hope China implement that technology as a good example of caring for the planet as a whole.

I think that is a great good for the Chinese for thinking of things on there own.

Its funny they probably dislike Oil companies and want them out of there lives and be free from them. The Chinese could help the planet by there by example!

Next they'll make emission free cars, like ecars now they have fusion. I reckon that would be there next task. little Emobiles the same should happen in India.

That would be easy with the technology around.

Fusion reactors and ecars good plan, good combination of a good start. They don't need gas guzzling cars nor be inflicted by these transnational lobbies and there drive for profit and domination.

Hopefully they will be cool and help the planet as whole.

Who knows they'll probably stumble over antimatter and anti gravity somehow and show the way that is not related to big overbearing business.

I suppose an Ecar would be a forklift with less weight and better design for it purpose. How simple is that where the cost of living goes down by 80 - 90% where you haven't got these oil companies. That would make people happier where they could devote this extra money to there families. Next solar panels on the ecars for recharging on the run.

Cheap technology. All dirt cheap. That's what energy should be clean and cheap, Energy should be the least of our problem and should be the lowest cost in the household. Then if you had non profit credit based on a simple interest formula if at all. The world would be so happy, 10 percent of income to keep transportation and the home fires going and the rest goes to the family.

Not what we have today 60% debt on household energy costs and the little left is for the family which is virtually nothing. In this idea we are getting close to the utopia world, that's what we are going to need for the new world.

Banks, energy and pharmaceuticals should be based on non profit. Everything that is common for all man should always be non profit so there is no opportunity for domination by one group of hound dogs.

Also future leaders of these companies should undergo a spirituality test to see if they have love for mankind not the love of the money of mankind.


regards

BigFatFurryTexan

Hi, I'm an Aussie but I lived in Oregon, California, Washington, Florida, and Mexico for a short time. All in all it was 5 years and I had a great time. I really like Americans they are nice and friendly people and they all subscribe to hospitality. I was always treated well by Americans and Mexicans and they were most generous and kind people. Even if they didn't have much, they would take you in there homes and treat you well.

About Jesus in India. I tend to subscribe to the UB rendition. But that doesn't change things.

However during Jesus early life we was travelling around as an interpreter for a Father and Son commercial operation based in India. Cutting a long story short whilst the three was in Alexandria. The Father of Ganid invested in the production of a book of truth which was headed by Jesus who instructed 30 scholars. This compile included all the truth everywhere combined in a book. Like another little UB book but in those days.

Now this book ended up in India. I don't know what it was called or even if it exists today but I wouldn't be surprised if that book had some influence in India through the efforts of Ganid beginning a new religion through this knowledge.

Also there were many teachers of Jesus that ended up in India. Like Thomas and a few other people.

Here is the UB story where it says that Jesus went as far as Charax on the Persian Gulf.

If it helps in understanding the India case, have a read this but its a read and a half but gives you the whole picture. But remember I give this for interest and not this conversion stuff. Everything is up to you what one accepts off course. But its another hole in the wall.

http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper130.html

I wonder what that book was called? That Jesus and Ganid compiled as a book of truth. I know the book did end up in India and was very personalised to the truth that could be recognised. Its interesting that there are so many commonalities with Issa and the truth as read. I wonder if Issa is a product of that compiled book???

Could be worth a search and compare the writings in the UB as the UB has extracts from the book. If there is a literal match then that is the book of Ganid that Jesus, Ganid and 30 scholars compiled.

To find the book would be a matter of comparison. A parallel of 2 works that are connected and do parallel in knowledge. That would identify it.

Many parallels there.

All the regards
sevens

BigFatFurryTexan

Hi, I'm an Aussie but I lived in Oregon, California, Washington, Florida, and Mexico for a short time. All in all it was 5 years and I had a great time. I really like Americans they are nice and friendly people and they all subscribe to hospitality. I was always treated well by Americans and Mexicans and they were most generous and kind people. Even if they didn't have much, they would take you in there homes and treat you well.

About Jesus in India. I tend to subscribe to the UB rendition. But that doesn't change things.

However during Jesus early life we was travelling around as an interpreter for a Father and Son commercial operation based in India. Cutting a long story short whilst the three was in Alexandria. The Father of Ganid invested in the production of a book of truth which was headed by Jesus who instructed 30 scholars. This compile included all the truth everywhere combined in a book. Like another little UB book but in those days.

Now this book ended up in India. I don't know what it was called or even if it exists today but I wouldn't be surprised if that book had some influence in India through the efforts of Ganid beginning a new religion through this knowledge.

Also there were many teachers of Jesus that ended up in India. Like Thomas and a few other people.

Here is the UB story where it says that Jesus went as far as Charax on the Persian Gulf.

If it helps in understanding the India case, have a read this but its a read and a half but gives you the whole picture. But remember I give this for interest and not this conversion stuff. Everything is up to you what one accepts off course. But its another hole in the wall.

http://mercy.urantia.org/papers/paper130.html

I wonder what that book was called? That Jesus and Ganid compiled as a book of truth. I know the book did end up in India and was very personalised to the truth that could be recognised. Its interesting that there are so many commonalities with Issa and the truth as read. I wonder if Issa is a product of that compiled book???

Could be worth a search and compare the writings in the UB as the UB has extracts from the book. If there is a literal match then that is the book of Ganid that Jesus, Ganid and 30 scholars compiled.

To find the book would be a matter of comparison. A parallel of 2 works that are connected and do parallel in knowledge. That would identify it.

Many parallels there. That book compile of 2000 years ago could very well be in vaults of the Catholic Church, needs a search.

All the regards
sevens

[ 09-30-2006, 12:54 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Hi

I'm speaking to NASA, they have improved the bathy of worldwind and the location seems to be still there. They seemed slightly excited about the prospect. However I still haven't got what I want.

To see blue tiling over the whole place of the Persian Gulf to give us a better picture and what potentially may lay there on the old coastline from thousands of years ago.

I must say, they have not said in this next round of emails that its a mistake or anything like that.

So far so good, still working on the case. This could be the big one, the big top of discoveries which of course includes Eden as well. No doubt about that one. Its double win in racing terms

All the best. III be speaking to NOAA soon see what they come up with.

You know if its all cool, we are getting closer and its all written about, this place Dalamatia the home of the Sons of God before they made the mistake in judgment in signing up to the upside down Lucifer manifesto.

You read it and see it. Very simple for religion, it would be out of fear and crystallisation that they would reject this place...Funny thing, we all know that!!

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia/

the best
sevens

[ 09-30-2006, 01:29 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Wow! I hope this movie alters the perception. It only displays that big business on this level is simply corrupt not interested in the planet, at all nothing!

And you listen to these politicians talk rubbish you know there lying and in the pockets of big business. Look what they have enforced slavery through high costs of energy and transportation.

Wont change until there is an absolute disaster to the climate.

sevens

Hi Briwyns, I agree that warming is probably a natural cycle, but I think it is accelerated by man. Looking at the Co2 graphs in the past 100 years shows a horrid story of a major acceleration in Co2, Hardly natural.

I wouldn't put this round of global warming to natural causes which happens over thousands of years, Oh maybe 10% due to natural causes off course but the rest is all manmade and what he puts in the atmosphere.

That has clearly been identified.

All the scientist are saying all the same things that man is responsible for this round of Global warming and in 50 years it will a runaway situation if we don't do something now. By all talk no action and crooked legislation there will be food shortages in the future, gee its even in prophecy.

I know the British scientists are extremely concerned I don't think they are ignorant, but putting it down to natural causes only is just ridiculous.

Anyway Governments should plan for the worst rather than taking risk due to economic factors.

Remembering the British Isles are in the worst position of losing much of there beautiful country.

I certainly don't want to see that happen to a good and advanced culture who have contributed much to world society.

regards
sevens

[ 09-30-2006, 02:41 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Hi HST

I went through the links and again was amazed how you have legend and discovery in the Bay of Cambay, connected. Again another read it and see it experience.

You know that site completely supports the UB rendition to a tee.

So you have 3 discoveries all related to the UB information with real accuracy. Its like you can read it and see it all submerged in the waters of time.

So that's Eden, Dalamatia (what I think) and the location in the Bay of Cambay.

That's 3 major parallels and connections set in stone through discovery all related to a book of truth.

I mean to say, I am so impressed with the UB knowledge, it is truly the book of the Gods.

If man cant see this in his face then he just simply stupid or totally infested with bias or prejudice.

I was thinking bringing all the discoveries in together just forms the biggest connection of truth and a huge panorama of history before the time when the Sumerians tablets were even made as discovered.

Man I wonder what the general scientist would say considering all this. Probably not much considering the Urantia Connection. But for us faith believers its huge.

What a doco it would make combining all 3 places and then you move into recent times using the Malta ruins and its circular connections not to mention the Spanish connection. It could be a presentation of everything.

Its really a very consistent story all guided by the fantastic Urantia Book. Im sure its all part of the Sevenfold revealment.

Fantastic and brilliant.

See what happens.

What a journey of discovery of everything. Truly incredible.


regards
sevens

Hi Leshy

I found this on a yahoo search, I havent checked the other links yet.

http://hierographics.org/BlackExperienceReligion03.htm (pics dont work)

Here is another, if it helps

http://www.sacred-texts.com/the/sd/sd2-2-13.htm

Havent read it fully but it could be a clue.

Maybe it is a representation of the Fall of Atlantis, the major default through bad judgement of the Sons of God perhaps?

Got to look into that thread a little more, hope it helps.

all the best
sevens

Man can overcome anything if he puts his mind to it with determination.

Man can improve those energy delivery systems quite easily. That's should be no excuse for improving the planet. Just improve the grid and make the panels of cars absorb infrared heat and convert it to electrical energy fro recharging on the go. I'm sure that's possible!

or

what about a device that converts wind power into electrical energy in relation to the speed of the car. The faster you go the more electrical energy you create from wind resistance. The energy created is used to recharge batteries on the run, thus relying less on fixed distribution systems. That's a good solution to.

Also money saved from using killer fossil fuels will subside the improvements of the delivery systems. Mind you there would be 90% drop in energy costs for the household and if electrical energy was created with antimatter it would be even cheaper. Plus its clean, green and safe and helps everyone.

Also there would be more disposable income that would generate a healthy economy where Governments can provide more services and look after the people much better than what they do today. The problem is the profit motivation, that's where the big problem lays.

Also we would have less cancers and thereby reduce our medical costs. Another huge saving.

If all above doesn't work, well man just has to get his act together and improve the delivery systems. He can do that, we know that.

Man can do that quite easily but whether its convenient for the few, that's the question.

Technology is no problem however it comes down to the will of man.

We have the technology that's for sure!!!! Always had the technology. At the end of the day fossil fuels are a disaster for mankind.

It as simple as that!

sevens


[ 09-30-2006, 05:06 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

 

Do you think anyone would be interested, honestly.

Also I got a few threads in other forums, I don't think I could handle anymore to be honest. This already diverts much energy at the sacrifice of some things I should be doing.

I tell you its real hard to balance the spiritual and the things of the world. It takes discipline that I dint have very much of, especially when your inspired with the information. I find it so hard to drag myself from this work.

Its quite an experience in itself.

I could do this research 24hrs a day. Man O man I have never experience this obsession sort of thing particularly in religion of all things. Even though there is absolutely no material involved.

Also I have the Moses thread which are mainly my posts where no one relies anyway.

all the best
sevens

[ 09-30-2006, 05:02 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

quote:

---

Do you know what Religion would take over the world then ??? ISLAM.

---

I don't think Islam will take over as a world religion. At all! Not even close. The religion is completely weakened by evil doctrine against mankind. The Jihad rubbish.

I think Paradise is completely displeasured about Islam and its radicalism.

Radicalism has divided the religion and only displays the lack of control they have over wayward doctrine.

I'm sorry but there is no way that Paradise can support a religion that promotes death and destruction.

If any thing the prophecy in the Quran about Islam will come to pass where it will not exist as a true religion.

Off course they think the end of world for Everone where only they go to Paradise. RUBBISH!

What it is that in the last times Islam will cop a major rebuke from Paradise for there murderous ways. That's what the religion is evolving to a murderous religion with enforced will over man, that is all characteristics of the Lucifer manifesto and these people cannot see that they are being manipulated by the Evil Caligastia and his doctirne!

In know many people is Islam Abhor this violence but the murderous taints all the rest.

I believe more than anything Islam wont survive in its current form.

Completely unattractive religion who only works on Fear and nothing but FEAR!

That's is not Paradise and does not represent the teaching of Jesus in truth. They are disobedient to commands of Jesus of whom they respect and which is included in The Quran. Its becoming a dumb religion.

regards
sevens

quote:

---

Do you know what Religion would take over the world then ??? ISLAM.

---

I dont think Islam will take over as a world religion. At all! Not even close. The religion is completely weakend by evil doctrine against mankind. The Jihad rubbish.

I think Paradise is completely displeasured about Islam and its radicalism.

Radicalism has divided the religion and only displays the lack of control they have over wayward doctrine.

I'm sorry but there is no way that Paradise can support a religion that promotes death and destruction.

If any thing the prophecy in the Quran about Islam will come to pass where it will not exist as a true religion.

Off course they think the end of world for Everyone where only they go to Paradise. RUBBISH!

What it is that in the last times Islam will cop a major rebuke from Paradise for there murderous ways. That's what the religion is evolving to a murderous religion with enforced will over man, that has all characteristics of the Lucifer manifesto and these people cannot see that they are being manipulated by the Evil Caligastia and his doctrine!

In know many people in Islam Abhor this violence but the murderous of the religion taints all the rest.

I believe more than anything Islam wont survive in its current form.

Completely unattractive religion who only works on Fear and nothing but FEAR!

That's is not Paradise and does not represent the teachings of Jesus in truth. They are disobedient to commands of Jesus of whom they respect and which is included in The Quran. Its becoming a dumb religion.

Also I say for extreme Christians don't follow the path of Islam and the Jihad rubbish in reaction.

That's is not the right path either.

The Children Christian army is a case in point. That is stupid to raised Kids to fight how absurd!

To raise children in all the rubbish doctrines, again the ill informed enforcing there will upon children who dont know better.

To me its a reaction operation by the same evil one Caligastia who is manipulating Islam to bring division between man.

Its all a major deception amongst all the other deceptions going on in this planet.

regards
sevens

[ 10-01-2006, 04:20 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Well whatever the truth is the planet is suffering regardless of all stats. Crime is cutting down all out trees particularly in Indonesia and other places where crime operates freely, countries are wayward in there respect to the planet just filling the atmosphere with carbon monoxide and other associated poisons.

Whatever the truth is the earth has degraded and needs repair and has to reduce Co2 and its other poisons because we are chopping our trees down our lungs for profit motivation.

Stats really mean nothing when you look at the true reality of man.

Maybe there should be stats on the damage man has done and still does by the barons and by crime elements that even governments have no control over.

By the way these crime elements as written in Enoch will be wiped out including there progeny at judgement. I'm mean that's what the book says. This is not my idea just what the Enoch says and I respect Enoch's words.

Also this last rights false doctrine business for crime people bringing man down will not help them, they will form no part of Paradise. There will be no life for them in the future destiny of Paradise and earth.

Take note all crime and murderous families who persist in complete disobedience to words of Jesus and The Father of Paradise. This is no crap but the real truth and reality of persistent and unrepentant crime will receive no blessings at all form Paradise.

The Last rights bribe for persistent and unrepentant crime does not work. That's is completely false. Utterly wrong.

Rather than relying on stats just take a look around!!!! That's the reality.

As you know stats can be manufactured to justify any position and in this spirit does not represent the real truth and all encompassing realities.

regard
sevens

[ 10-01-2006, 04:56 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

I reckon the only religion that will survive in my view is personal religion of truth that incorporates all the books of truth from all cultures and includes all the discoveries which also incorporates the Urantia book. But people have that choice. The UB is only a book not a religion, design to kick man along a bit in his personal religion, an expansion book of ones own faith. That's all it is.

No doubt the truth will reveal itself.

It wont be a religion of dominance or forced will or anything like that, religion will more personalised based on time/space and realities man and angels working together as a team which incorporates all mankind in just evolving truth, personal truth and personal discovery revelation.

I'm not sure about a Mahdi coming out of middle east. I think it will come from another place. I don't know where but not the middle east, The vulgate says from the orient the KJV says its a branch. The orient eh! from the east in another book.

Personally I think the UB is the Mahdi associated with the ultimate Mahdi Jesus.

I don't know see what happens in the journey.

regards
sevens

Maybe he was, I think his life was before the UB and all the makers that he points out seems to be manifested with complete knowledge.

I think he was talking about now not some other time.

With the prospect of Nuclear holocaust I think this comes properly at the right time.

Come on there is some many connections and phenomena's here you must a fool to be in denial.

regards
sevens

I reckon you're right Bryon, all this denial of global warming are the works of self interest and people get suck in by it, because there comfortable wanting to maintain the status quo at the expense of others.

selfish, look around eh! EH! WAKE UP!! People must live in a small narrow world not to see truth!

On top of all this you have this ass*****e in North Korea trying to blow up everyone. What an absolute as*****e to mankind he is. Certainly an enemy of mankind.

sevens

[ 10-05-2006, 07:32 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

[ 10-05-2006, 07:28 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

I am that I am

Ah its probably a mistake, I do it all the time.

I must say Cayce had some good stuff to express, he seems to be aligned with the UB truth in essence.

I went through through theosophy thoughts of the fifth root race. I don't know about all that.

In my view I feel its all out of whack. I think the the above seems to have better unification with the realities and in word and in the physical and is related to the Fifth Epochal Revelation of which those who subscribe basically become fifth root race spiritual, not genetic.

Fifth Epochal revelation race.

sevens

I was thinking about the ones that kill whoever rocks the boat. Somehow I think we are inconsequential here in this forum. You know opinions out of billions.

Also I feel the hound dogs realise that its probably futile as the truth is more apparent today which they are contrasted by.

Its probably more risk in that behaviour today also there future destiny is at risk somehow I think they are considering all things.

It probably part of the transition.

With all the truth being exposed somehow the world is looking upon these people with real scrutiny thereby creating a block to Evil.

They are in the worlds eyes and no one is fooling anyone these days thanks to the fantastic internet.

Like GM with all the truth coming out Ecars, they are exposed and in this way they are blocked to make evil decisions as society is becoming aware of there evil actions and intent of the past.

Today might be a different story as they realise they have to gain the trust and confidence of society. GM and the rest have lost credibility and thereby this affects erroneous decisions.

So hopefully we can live in a better world with right leadership.

Also I still maintain that directors of transnationals companies should under go a spirituality test to see whether they are worthy to lead.

Not the in for the kill attitude for profit. I think society see that as disgusting and unworthy and society itself will correct this by applying moral pressure.

Its what Like Al Gore is doing through his presentations, changing the world. I think he would of made a great president personally.

I think he should run for office again, he would get in easily and deserves a break in the White house. He has done more for the planet than any of these politicians we have today who is proactive and positive.

Sorry if your a republican but I'm only looking at the man at his personal witness not the party. I reckon Bush represents the old guard which I think is unsustainable. The US needs a new guard a new way of thinking for the future.

regards
sevens

[ 10-05-2006, 06:51 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Hi BigFatFurryTexan

How are you, Yes I was shocked at the Amish horror. I just couldn't believe nor understand why it happened.

It boggles my mind the horror but note all the other school horrors that have recently occurred.

What is happening for people to do this, why does this happen in the US of all places. That I cant understand, is it like a sense of hopelessness linked with a maladjusted mind.

I heard an Amish person saying that it was the will of God so that's why they are forgiving. However, I disagree with that statement completely, I don't think its the will of God at all, because we live in a free will universe where everyman is responsible for his actions.

God does not will those actions.

That was act of someone's maladjusted mind/will not Gods will that's for sure, to think that is just wrong and out of step.

That was the actions of stupid idiot who couldn't reconcile with his past and was to self indulgent to get help. The guy who did that was simply maladjusted fool and chemically imbalanced completely.

Man cant live in the past, he has to move on and forward to face the challenges of life. A religion cannot live in the past nor escape the realities of today. The key is to know oneself and God as a team for greater understanding and with that understanding progress, I think that has more contribution for the planet than hiding behind some old irrelevant doctrine in a world that has moved on completely.

I'm not sure at all about Amish ideal, I respect them off course but I think its like escaping the realities of life.

I stand to be corrected of course but how could man ever progress living like that and contributing nothing to the world at large. I feel its like a sense of self indulgence in doctrine run by fear and nothing but.

If I was fear laden how could I discover the things that have and shared. I think its a complete mistake to let fear rule your life particularly fear of doctrine of the Lord who is loving.

That does not cut the truth these days.

I'm so glad I'm not ruled like that, I think God wants everyman to be own man not to respond to bidding of others or some fear out of date doctrine.

I'm sure it will get worse before it gets better as society becomes more ruthless and selfish man will feel more helpless.


You know that real quite voice of good advise from within? That is the best navigator in life.

Not some doctrine or staid dogma that has very relevance in today's climate.

regards
sevens

No problem about your analysis of the Amish, to be honest there is more I have to learn about them and there thoughts. Weren't they influenced by John Calvin primarily or aren't they part of the Calvinist truth, like the Dutch reform church?

Well its a pity that we have to see all this horror which in my mind paints a larger picture and gives us an insight of the maladjustment of this world.

A maladjustment that all mankind should take some responsibility for weather it be indirect or directly.

Some thing is definitely wrong and maladjusted and I believe it exists on all levels. I suppose the important thing is to identify it and work to improve the mental working of man by seeking the truth and live it as a society or as an individual.

We really live in a confused upside down world, completely upside down compared to rest of the universal family. That's why this planet was quarantined from the rest of the universe to contain the division virus or the 666 spiritual virus.

This virus will play itself out and the perpetrators will see and agree that there manifesto was faulty and man himself through truth and realisation will thwart the 666 virus himself, of course with the help of The Paradise Trinity.

Its only a matter of time, every individual part of the 666 virus will know this and see the futility of there 666 spiritual alignment and seek a new and better direction.

The horrors are all part of the Lucifer manifesto the 666 virus, unfortunately we are all tainted and its deeply within our genes just even in thought.

I suppose the Amish are only trying to limit its disastrous effects upon the spirit of mankind through there lifestyle, I suppose its a method one of many methodologies.

Me personally, I'd rather go out in the world to seek and to discover/explore with the guidance of Angels walking out there in faith with intelligence to find the truth. No fear because I trust the Angels and The Paradise Trinity in there loving and honourable directions.

Also there are many additional benefits in this relationship. It really comes down to Truth, Beauty and Goodness shared with all man at the end of the day. That is the solution to the 666 problem we have today.

Like we do in our good discussions learning more from each other each day and as we learn it makes us stronger and healthier spiritually and physically.

Its all good and the right stuff!


regards sevens
 

I think the biggest phenomena in our lives is the fragment of God within us that guides us, its interesting that the Angels and the thought adjuster are independent but work in perfect synchronisation in our honourable actions of truth, beauty and goodness.

However, I'm not talking about our conscience but the other subtle and quiet voice, the good/God voice.

We have so much in support of us, truly the forces of the kingdom of Heaven are truly are on our side. If man could realise that more so he would have no fear as the truth sets him free truly and gives confidence to man walking in the spirit of Jesus, the holy spirit.

I say right on!

Im so happy that we can share on this, I think its just great and good news.

You know that fragment will be with us even when we land on the shores of Paradise in our eternal destiny and future...Brilliant. Also the Seraphims that look after us are also with us along the adventure. Its a big journey for them to Paradise and we are an integral part of their journey. God raising and leading man to God or Paradise.

Its all related to our fantastic eternal Father in Heaven. Our brilliant Father in Heaven and Jesus gave us the lead through his love for mankind.

regards
sevens
 

Certainly a big difference of Government and the Amish people that's for sure in forgiveness and compassion.

Maybe if the Govt had a better attitude like the Amish things may improve like through the example of trying to understand the problem and working for a positive solution rather than creating further hatred.

I don't agree with torture at all I feel its totally the wrong direction and follows the eye for an eye principle which in my mind is an ultimate failure.

Also I fear that this torture is the beginning of a style that will be used with all law enforcement in the states on its citizens. It like a justification and you know they will do it. Quite easily.

I fear for the citizens of the US and others knowing that torture has been justified in law.

It goes against the principle that in God we trust and is completely dishonourable. I'm sorry but I feel the wrong guy is president and I don't think republicans cut it at all and actually have brought the US to its moral knees. But unfortunately the US citizens are kept very ignorant of world realities at large.

I can only see disaster coming out the torture business now the US has adopted it.

There is no standard in torture and now the Govt has stooped to this level.

I reckon there should be a change in govt with a new light because all the guys in office has brought nothing problems in the world more so than ever before.

The days of democrats rule was far better. Clinton did a far better job that Bush from what I see.

I hope Britain and Australia never adopt that erroneous torture law. Its really evil run by evil people who do evil things toward one another and is Against the Jesus principles.

An yet they go to church knowing this. How could they justify this in the name of God.

There is no way that Paradise could accept that behaviour.

I'm sure it will all backfire on Bush and NEO men that run the govt and the republicans in the next election I don't will get in at all. People want positive change for a change.


regards
sevens

[ 10-08-2006, 12:34 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Hi I'm not sure what the program was called as I saw half of it. I think it was called Super sized. But it focuses on Mc Donald and its nutritional value in its food.

Its probably old news but this guy was on a Mc Donald's diet for sometime and apparently over he put on weight and owner he time he became sick to point of liver shutdown.

It also highlighted how many schools in the US are simply being sugar laced rubbish which ultimately leads to sugar addiction and of tap behaviour.

I suppose that the mark of big business who just don't give a damn for the people except the bottom-line, evil profit motivation.

Completely appalling and it another example of dumbing the people through sugar addiction.

Essentially it all corrupt and are destroying the people.

The USDA and big companies are in it together.

And these lobby groups for these fast food companies are destroying the people US bit by bit. and its all intentional.

Oh man the people US have not got a chance with these corporations feeding the people total rubbish particularly in the schools. Food laced with fats and sugars promoted by the USDA.

They are taught to be addicted to the rubbish food and there advertising campaign.

Its all to do about profit no concern for the people. Man its a mess from what I see the Obesity question. That is squarely the fault of government and big business in ti together. Totally out of control.

You can squarely blame on the soda pop companies and all the fast food crap companies. Plus most everyday people didn't know what a calorie was.

Fed rubbish through addiction from childhood and the intentional dumbing of the people. Don't believe a word these politicians say there all in pockets of big business who don't give a damn.

Completely appalling. Truly an epidemic of big business and its destructiveness in the name of profit motivation not to mention all there lies and hypocrisy.

All in all its pretty evil crap what man does to another for the sake of bloody profit.

Why gain the world you will lose your soul!!


regards
sevens

quote:

---

So, when or why haven't we seen a new electric car. They have hybrids. Why not an all electric?

---

In my mind its all to do with profit motivation, convenience and maintaining the status quo.

I don't think its the technology as that has already been demonstrated at Joes garage.

Look what GM did to the EV1 in the past and note there are EV1 still operating today where the owners are quite happy.

So what's the problem, in truth there is no problem except it affects profit motivation of the few.

There only creating hybrid cars to keep all sides happy. I suppose its like a compromise of the oil companies, govt and automobile companies.

But one thing for sure a change has to occur. There are too many cancer producing pollutants.

All the best
sevens

[ 10-08-2006, 10:32 PM: Message edited by: sevens ]

No worries, I myself avoid Fast food and just stick to basic fruit and Vegies and with some lean meat as I still like a good steak.

However what ever I eat I try to burn off immediately through activity like walking or swimming.

Personally man has to be aware of the intent and not support the intent through eating there rubbish.

I feel man has to be more spiritual to recognise these things and to avoid these things with the right decisions and with personal discipline in his eating habits which also affects mental health.

I tell you my eating is just basic and I don't take vitamins as I extract them from fruit and vegies.

I feel daily exercise is of upmost importance because you have to burn the intake in a realistic way to avoid all the health issues which only supports the pharmaceutical companies at the end of the day, not the individual.

Kind of like corporate have created solutions of the profit intent of fast food in a vicious circle or cycle. If man operates himself as lean machine with good food with the right intent he can go for a long time without supporting any of these profit motivation companies who only create supposed solutions to the problem they intentionally created and with govt support.

Its like what prisoners are fed with just processed crap. How could they think properly with all the sugars and rubbish in there diets. Defeats the whole purpose of rehabilitation.

I think man has to get more in touch with himself and his spirituality to see the truth as it is and make better decisions.

Oh well that's what I reckon, again it comes down to the truth and following that God fragment of within with respect to all aspects of the human body.

Its really all about personal decisions and getting the mileage out of wisdom.

Hi Elmer,

Im so happy to hear from you. I wondered where you went and how you have been going. I pray and hope all is well for you.

I was wandering if there was something wrong.

Anyway as for me, I went through the Enochs 10 week process and in the Seventh part I discovered what I feel is Dalamatia which I feel was the physical home of the Nephillim before signing up with the Lucifer manifesto.

Im not sure whether this would mean anything to you but for me in the threads of truth I follow was quite significant and is in parallel with my direction and journey.

Im not sure if you have seen my discovery but here it is

http://www.dalamatiacity.com/dalamatia/

I knew about this place and I had it down to 3 options some years ago in the Persian Gulf.

I was actually on a Islam forum as I have been looking into the Quran to see if I could find parallels and there was a prophecy which I believed was about this place in there own book.

A week before the discovery I proposed a joint venture between the Uantia Book and the Quran in finding this place having no idea where it was in detail. It was an amazing faith journey.

In that week they mocked with all sorts of things. I was doing a study into the Malta case repelling an attack on Eden and I was looking in the African sub Sahara and found a few clues in the way of images and then I stumbled over some rig Veda info that speaks of "the white island" which gave me a latitude. Immeadiately I thought of Dalamatia and then Suddenly I thought about using the NASA worldwind software to launch another search in the Persian Gulf near the old coastline where I found the lost city. Yea! Yea! Yea!

It was truly amazing, upon discovery I published it and made the discovery available for mankind with all relevant links.

It was so happy. I then revealed it to the Islam forum as a Testamony and demonstration of my proposal and then they took all the information down of there forum with some sarcastic comment.

My intent was to circumvent the Jihad rubbish, which is total rubbish. But they rejected everything.

Since then I have not been back to that forum. Well it was my way of doing constructive as a lead of truth. But to no avail.

Since then I have released the Dalamatia info everywhere and have found no argument or backlash.

Because you can read about it and see it. Hard to get around.

I'm sure the seventh part of Enoch's prophecy is still open and anything can happen. I'm not sure where it goes from here but the discovery was completely significant and does have relevance to the unfolding truth. In my thought pattern.

Lately Ive been trying to highlight different things to get man thinking about the prospect of destiny.

So far so good but I'm not sure what will happen from this point.

But I can honestly say it was a beautiful Testamony the whole journey and I thank the Father in Heaven and the Angels for guiding my whole life to this discovery. Also my previous Bible College experience was invaluable to the journey. I thank Jesus so much for his loving kindness and his faithfulness.

Anyway that was my experience, I'm glad to hear from you. I pray big blessings for you and your congregation absolutely 100%.

all the best
sevens

Its amazing I have found so many scriptures about Bin Laden he is even named.

That part of the reason I went on the Islam forum to see if I could a message to him with the scriptures in hand to make him wake up to his futility and to send a general message to Islam in my fight against terrorism.

Also I respect the Pope for saying something. Good on him for4 standing up to that false doctrine.

I also sense that all the whole body of Jesus meaning all the denomination are coming together in better unity as the truth reveals itself. Whilst there maybe some variations in some ideas essentially we are really brothers in Jesus our fantastic savior and friend.

I feel the Christian religion is really making an attempt to embrace each other through commonality rather than difference. Whether it Jehovah witness or Mormon or Pentecostal or Catholic or other bodies in Jesus we all have a different role to play.

It could be a great time for the Christian religion in embracing each other more fully. I also feel that our loving Jesus and The Father would desire this.

I just say praise the Lord! yea!

I would really love the 2nd coming to be closer than later. I would love it for man to embrace each other in mutual love and respect. I so desire this. I don't want this to happen in a thousand years I would like to this to happen now.

But I have to be patient in the lord in what he unfolds.

Also I have noticed that people on the forum are opening up more where before they where my enemies so to speak, they are now my friends and quite supportive also they are asking questions.

Praise the Lord for that one. The spirit of Lord, the Holy spirit is moving in the hearts of man.

With respect to Dalamatia I feel I wont to go there and discover it physical. If you know anyone who would like to sponsor an expedition to uncover truth or to verify it I'm open for all suggestions.

You know its funny I have had visions in the past seeing myself on a expedition, it wasn't 1st Eden but maybe it could be Dalamatia. Even though I look after the website of discovery of Atlantis I knew I would never get on to that boat but maybe my boat is in the Persian Gulf. I'm not sure I have to see what the Father reveals in the space/time journey of reality manifestation. Maybe that is part of the Seventh part of the 10 week, Enoch 7th part prophecy???

Maybe going out there is the next leg of the Sevenfold journey.

Well all great blessings, I praise the lord so much, glory be to him.

Bin Laden will be irrelevant at the end of the day believe me, he has no future in his behaviour and no one will help him not even Paradise/The Kingdom of Heaven. No angel could come to his assistance because he disobedient to the universal laws of right behaviour.


All the best and great blessings
sevens

all the best
sevens

http://www.reversespins.com/signthatdocument.html

Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.

What can I say, excellent.

Perhaps the man was the same angel that revealed the George Washington's 3 perils vision.

It could of been a midwayer or perhaps a seraphim or maybe Gabriel himself all quite possible. All these entities can reveal themselves like this. Particularly at significant moments of history or destiny they do this. (However what I say is a little speclatory, if it was in fact an angel however there are many interesting characteristics or it could of been a Melchezidek especially appearing for the occasion with guidance. Similar to the Sage of Salem.) Anyway its very interesting!

I'm really glad this link was posted. Most inspiring. Gee don't these words of the past have so much power even in today's world.

Just great and I believe it has the same relevance in today's climate.

thanks for the link, loved it!
regards
sevens

"Planetary destiny might begin with the US and may end with the US but with a new light for the destiny of mankind"

Its in prophecy given by the our great Arch Angels and our loving Father in the Kingdom of Heaven.

[ 10-09-2006, 12:36 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]

Total disaster,

I fear if there is military action those missiles could be pointed to the US with a horrifying payload.

I hope those patriot missiles work.

I certainly doesn't look good.

The Nth Korea is simply mad.

sevens

What do you mean I asked this originally

""I would like see any Jihad scripts that support there actions???"""

Obviously you're trying to deflect. Anyway your the so called expert on Islam you should know. Don't plead ignorance and stupidity. Where is the truth.

You show me some scriptures across a number of books that justify its actions.

Right now, come one!!

Jihad the destroyers of families, maybe the South should look upon the North (The Kurds) as an example of harmonising with the powers that be in getting there act together. Doing something positive for the people. That's is a fine example why should they even be aligned to the South at all.

That's the only light in Iraq, its certainly not the Jihad movement. That is becoming a complete disaster for Islam.

There is nothing you can show me that is common amongst all religions to prove anything correct about Jihad.

Actually in all my studies, I find exactly the opposite to what they proclaim. There is a huge warning for those who commit evil in the name of God. Particularly the ones who teach it and perpetrate this.

sevens

Last edited by sevens : 1 Minute Ago at 07:15 AM.

[ 10-14-2006, 05:00 AM: Message edited by: sevens ]