The Seven commands are the first laws given to man which the Hebrews extended in the edit of there religion.

How do you know that Christianity in doctrine is not influenced by other religions of the past. Remember the Jews where in captivity and edited all there scriptures in Persia/Babylon. that's what I was taught in Bible college. Also it is where they also discovered the Psalms from the earlier Melchizedek Salem teachers who where there previously.


Here is a demonstration


 

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The Salem teachers greatly reduced the number of the gods of Mesopotamia, at one time bringing the chief deities down to seven: Bel, Shamash, Nabu, Anu, Ea, Marduk, and Sin. At the height of the new teaching they exalted three of these gods to supremacy over all others, the Babylonian triad: Bel, Ea, and Anu, the gods of earth, sea, and sky. Still other triads grew up in different localities, all reminiscent of the trinity teachings of the Andites and the Sumerians and based on the belief of the Salemites in Melchizedek's insignia of the three circles.



Here in the following image is a Babylonian Tablet with the three circles of the Salem teachers. No doubt scholars today have no idea what the 3 circles mean.



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The symbol of the three concentric circles, which Melchizedek adopted as the insignia of his bestowal, a majority of the people interpreted as standing for the three kingdoms of men, angels, and God. And they were allowed to continue in that belief; very few of his followers ever knew that these three circles were emblematic of the infinity, eternity, and universality of the Paradise Trinity of divine maintenance and direction;



I thought that was an interesting demonstration of the 3 circles and the connection of history and the above Sumerian tablet. I feel the UB and the tablets makes a powerful connection in the above.


Who is to say what the Jews edited, adopted and introduced in that time of captivity within there books?

I'm sorry you have shown me no evidence other than just judgements in the vain hope to establish the UB as error or a deception.

Here is something in the UB that has a duality in relation to the foundations discovered.

The below are all from Paper 195 UB

 

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The modern age will refuse to accept a religion which is inconsistent with facts and out of harmony with its highest conceptions of truth, beauty, and goodness. The hour is striking for a rediscovery of the true and original foundations of present-day distorted and compromised Christianity--the real life and teachings of Jesus



Here is some home truths and should be considered.

 

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So-called Christianity has become a social and cultural movement as well as a religious belief and practice. The stream of modern Christianity drains many an ancient pagan swamp and many a barbarian morass; many olden cultural watersheds drain into this present-day cultural stream as well as the high Galilean tablelands which are supposed to be its exclusive source



and another home truth for Christianity

 

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But there is no excuse for the involvement of the church in commerce and politics; such unholy alliances are a flagrant betrayal of the Master. And the genuine lovers of truth will be slow to forget that this powerful institutionalized church has often dared to smother newborn faith and persecute truth bearers who chanced to appear in unorthodox raiment.



Exactly the same as in what is being attempted here to stop truth with no evidence in scripture regarding the UB and its planetary Jesus operations. This is only history repeating itself and Man does not like expansion but the Father has different ideas and its all to do with his church.

Also some churches should do away with the enforced 10% rubbish that has no basis at all. A man should give what he wants to give and that's it. Man cannot buy his way into heaven and no church should use emotional blackmail on the individual regarding the the 10% money grab, that is an abomination and the Father is not interested in that at all and especially the individuals who use scripture in there inner mindal schemes. I know there are heaps of churches that do this and its where it goes all wrong. Jesus never required that, why should the church think differently.

If the preacher is worth it, people will give but people shouldn't be forced or harassed to give. Let that be an act of his own will rather than the churches will. No scripture in the bible should be used at all for grabbing money from faith bearing people.

and another big home truth

 

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But religious leaders are making a great mistake when they try to call modern man to spiritual battle with the trumpet blasts of the Middle Ages. Religion must provide itself with new and up-to-date slogans. Neither democracy nor any other political panacea will take the place of spiritual progress. False religions may represent an evasion of reality, but Jesus in his gospel introduced mortal man to the very entrance upon an eternal reality of spiritual progression.



trumpet blasts of the Middle Ages, isn't that what's happening today currently in the Middle East. Looks like man has not learnt a thing from his church. Looks like man is repeating the same mistake and church/government is involved in this error. Thats why these ancient foundations is the path that will bring peace, not the war cry of the middle ages which was a disaster, again influenced by religion. The same thing can be seen in the pulpits of Christianity today in the attitude that is promoted in the churches. Exclusive, the chosen ones, Im safe but you go to hell and all the demonic espousing who have no power becuase of Pentecost, except the power people give the one demon that still exists but I believe not for long!

Believe me democracy as being espoused is not the answer to the troubled areas but its the new enlarged revelation and discovery that will make man think again because its in his face and has nowhere to run or take cover. No doctrine will save man but the truth of Jesus and his relationship with the Father and with mankind in the aspiration of truth, beauty and goodness. That would be doing the Fathers will rather than all this judging others in their research.

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The great hope of Urantia lies in the possibility of a new revelation of Jesus with a new and enlarged presentation of his saving message which would spiritually unite in loving service the numerous families of his present-day professed followers.




 

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I do not look down on you guys but I think you are in error- not any more so than some main stream churches but definitely not Biblical!



Just opinions based on no study of the "fact of the matter" Gee what do they teach in Bible College these days. Im sure its become a very shallow overview because of gross exclusivity and limited thinking. The whole thing about truth is finding it for yourself and make your own enquiries.

lastly another ub clue using Isaiah to what I feel refers to the ancient foundations and its rebuilding for Gods purpose.

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8. THE FEAST OF SPIRITUAL GOODNESS

That night, long after the usual listeners had retired, Jesus continued to teach his apostles. He began this special instruction by quoting from the Prophet Isaiah:

"`Why have you fasted? For what reason do you afflict your souls while you continue to find pleasure in oppression and to take delight in injustice? Behold, you fast for the sake of strife and contention and to smite with the fist of wickedness. But you shall not fast in this way to make your voices heard on high.


"`Is it such a fast that I have chosen--a day for a man to afflict his soul?

Is it to bow down his head like a bulrush, to grovel in sackcloth and ashes?


Will you dare to call this a fast and an acceptable day in the sight of the Lord?

Is not this the fast I should choose: to loose the bonds of wickedness, to undo the knots of heavy burdens, to let the oppressed go free, and to break every yoke? Is it not to share my bread with the hungry and to bring those who are homeless and poor to my house? And when I see those who are naked, I will clothe them.

"`Then shall your light break forth as the morning while your health springs forth speedily. Your righteousness shall go before you while the glory of the Lord shall be your rear guard. Then will you call upon the Lord, and he shall answer; you will cry out, and he shall say--

Here am I. And all this he will do if you refrain from oppression, condemnation, and vanity. The Father rather desires that you draw out your heart to the hungry, and that you minister to the afflicted souls;then shall your light shine in obscurity, and even your darkness shall be as the noonday. Then shall the Lord guide you continually, satisfying your soul and renewing your strength.


 
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You shall become like a watered garden, like a spring whose waters fail not. And they who do these things shall restore the wasted glories; they shall raise up the foundations of many generations; they shall be called the rebuilders of broken walls, the restorers of safe paths in which to dwell.'"



And then long into the night Jesus propounded to his apostles the truth that it was their faith that made them secure in the kingdom of the present and the future, and not their affliction of soul nor fasting of body. He exhorted the apostles at least to live up to the ideas of the prophet of old and expressed the hope that they would progress far beyond even the ideals of Isaiah and the older prophets. His last words that night were: "Grow in grace by means of that living faith which grasps the fact that you are the sons of God while at the same time it recognizes every man as a brother."

It was after two o'clock in the morning when Jesus ceased speaking and every man went to his place for sleep



and I wonder if this is a message to the Catholic church today through Peter.

 

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To Peter he said: "Put not your trust in the arm of flesh nor in weapons of steel. Establish yourself on the spiritual foundations of the eternal rocks.



Still remember in this thread we are testing everything, just everything, no exclusivity and The Father is going strip all the false doctrine that affect his church. It will be a real refinement of his church and the leaders cannot escape from this.

This is the tribulation for Christianity more so than any other religion on the planet because its the church that supposedly espouses Jesus' teachings so its the one that will undergo the greater refinement and will be humbled as the bad doctrine are cut out of the vine. So I would get of the back side and research, research, research and do more research and save the judging for the ancient of Days who I think are very close to us in this time. Because man for the first time is locked on to the target of the ancient foundations and places. God and man will walk together in the manifestation of the ancient places into the reality of mankind.


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