Karen Cowling How do we help these women

Sevens8 All I know Islam is in on shaky ground and is in huge trouble with all its fruits and witness. The worst in Islam, the deceived and the deceiver in hate promulgation are simply dragging that whole religion down on to the rocks of destruction. The Universe is not impressed by anything that is going on and certainly not impressed with the useless promulgation they have to bear. Actually they don't recognise it, its to hate full and against the Sevenfold Universe of Jesus.

Islam does not escape Judgement of the Father in heaven, no way at all, there is no escape for Islam, the whole lot of it except through Jesus in proper recognition and following his message to the letter and repent. Simple as that!

Sevens8 There cup overruns in Sin in what comes out of there heart in all there hatred against mankind.

Sevens8 They are not even close to Salvation, its all barbarian thinking in the killing and murdering using God name in Vain, a massive sin especially over the body of a dead man. What an abomination against the Lord of Lord of all the Heavens.

Sevens8 Its all in the fruits like in the video and they are stuck between a rock and a hard place and so are all these religious Governments. They are seen in poor light.

Sevens8 Definitely bankrupt in the Spirit of truth. Where is the demonstration. they cant come up with not one demonstration of there so called truth and that's there problem even though it all lays under there noses.

They are already defeated and they are unsure what to do. I say repent.

Sevens8 In truth, as you know you can be relaxed but they have no truth and they are not relaxed but in fear and stress under a guise. All so predicatble.

Karen Cowling I was asking what is being done or can be done from the good of universal love not about sin, the darkness is already there, but as people preach this is still happening to defenseless women. What would you do. My question was not to promote a discussion around more blame, or judgement as this does not help anyone.

Sevens8 In truth, as you know you can be relaxed but they have no truth and they are not relaxed but in fear and stress under a guise. All so predictable.

The more worried they are the louder they become with an increase in repression using fear as the tool. Clearly seen

Karen Cowling what would you do to help these women

Sevens8 Nothing you can do its up to the person.

Karen Cowling That is the sin

Sevens8 What can you do in theses places? what and get killed.

Sevens8 Im looking for judgement to fix this.

Karen Cowling you dont have to go there to change it, you could start from here and we need men to start it for the women as it the patriarchal beliefs that allow this kind of atrosity

Karen Cowling You use the word judgement as a cop out to not do anything

Sevens8 I mean you have the US forces there what else can be done unless there is change that comes from the heavens.

Sevens8 Many other people use that word to and it has been used from the beginning so I think its a reality.

Karen Cowling people need to act here on earth if you beleive in god that is what is right

Sevens8 I know its a realioty for every personality.

Karen Cowling to wait for god to fix things is not ok this is how man has become lazy

Sevens8 Well Im speaking about it as you can see with my own thoughts. I have done from time to time on this subject.

Karen Cowling yes and i am challenging you a little as this is a stong subject when it comes to religion

Sevens8 There been wars and things any other ideas! I'm all open, its up to the religion to look into the matter but they cant and wont.

Karen Cowling I am interested

Karen Cowling religion is not outside of you once again it can be judgement of others and then to stand back and say religion should fix it. Where is the religion inside of you. Or is it not, is it outside of you.

Karen Cowling does this then give you absolution to not do anything but complain what about humanity and men standing up for women this is what jesus did and this is what god would expect of all

Sevens8 I said what I said, is there any body else that can do something? How can you possibly fix that problem regarding a man enforced ritual deep in a religion and that if you look at anything else you get killed. Thats not religion that just spiritual bondage.

Karen Cowling it is all based on religion that is why we have a problem and once again it is used to cop out too.

Sevens8 Im been on track to Eden to find solutions OK, you find the sollutions to that problem.

Karen Cowling spirit is courage, committment, authenticity and from within. Religion is something that has enslaved people

Karen Cowling The solutions is if people really gave a damn

Sevens8 What are you looking into the past and not present?

Karen Cowling I thankyou for your patients to discuss this matter i have my answer from you i will look further. Love and light to you dear Brother ♥

Karen Cowling The video is what is happening in the present, it is patriarchal society that religion has given the beleif to be able to make women obey and treat them not with the same respect and love as a man.

Sevens8 When you get some ideas let me know. Mind you I'm already most likely on a death list with all the stuff Ive spoken on these subjects ok.

Karen Cowling It is about courage and Love it is about standing up to get changes happening through unity. Mostly it is about courage.

Sevens8 well that's what I've been doing the whole time, its in the written word all the thoughts accessible by all and getting pissed off with the things you raise.

Sevens8 I believe if Eden and the urantia Book cant bring about the desired changes then its judgement all the way and Im all for it because I am sick of the BS on this planet.

Sevens8 I think 1st Eden is the last chance for religion to get there act together failing that look out.